Re: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread Ohad Lutzky
Just a few more points to throw in here - In the short time I've been in Haifux, it's been mostly a 'vote-with-your-feet' club. People show up to lectures which interest them, and speak in favor of them on the mailing list. The reason, I believe, we mostly have our "tight-knit" "linux-related" "l

Re: [Haifux] another lecture proposal

2007-04-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 09:12:11PM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote: > I'm interested too. Cool, the lecture is scheduled for June 11th. Cheers, Muli - Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty me

Re: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 07:11:09PM +0300, gabik wrote: > Hi > > Clubsys is highly academic and theoretical. They will not allow > lecture on "dirty, system-level" details, which is what interests > us, the engineers, I suppose. :) That's too bad... it's not like there's been a wealth of clubsys

Re: [Haifux] another lecture proposal

2007-04-10 Thread Leon Romanovsky
I'm interested too. Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > If there's interest, I'll be happy to give this talk I'll be giving at > OLS '07 at Haifux as well. > > The Price of Safety: Evaluating IOMMU Performance > > IOMMUs, "IO Memory Management Units", are hardware devices that > translate device DMA addres

[Haifux] Re: Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, gabik wrote: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:07:25 +0300 From: gabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'Eli Billauer' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'Haifa Linux Club' Cc: 'Muli Ben-Yehuda' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'boazg' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

[Haifux] RE: Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread gabik
Hi Orna I got you and I see your point. Not suggesting to change Haifux any more. I just want to say that if there will be a discussion again whether to have windows drivers lecture or not (or any other interesting windows lecture) - I am strongly in favor of having it. Best, Gabi -Or

RE: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread gabik
By your I meant not Orr, but Haifux's society. >And all in all we are very tolerant towards other OSes,... So why not windows drivers lecture, that Orna wrote you have rejected in the past? Gabi _ From: Orr Dunkelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:00 PM

Re: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread Orr Dunkelman
This is not my club. This is the people's club. However, this is haifux. The mailing list is handled by hamakor's website, the domain is paid by hamakor, and the website will eventually go there as well, so _this_ will remain haifux. If someone wishes to start another forum which has different i

RE: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread gabik
OK. I fully accept it. It is your club. I just proposed to change it from Haifux to HaifOS. Or leave it as Haifux but be more patient to other, different OSes as well. >you will never be able to connect from Linux Of course you will. When we find time to port it to Linux. You see - it is not

Re: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread Orr Dunkelman
OK. Lectures on configuring WiFi cards in Windows is obviously out of the scope of the club (again, this is Haifux, if people want to have Haifwin, HaifOS, or any other club - they are welcome to start it). If there is some lesson about that for Linux, then it might fit, but otherwise - it's not

RE: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread gabik
But why should we concentrate on kernel only? For example, would not you like to hear a lecture about WiPeer http://www.wipeer.com/.: Lecture about the challenge of programmatically configuring your WiFi card on Windows, about our way to structure a complicated P2P software, about ad hoc network

RE: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread gabik
Hi Clubsys is highly academic and theoretical. They will not allow lecture on "dirty, system-level" details, which is what interests us, the engineers, I suppose. :) Plus, Clubsys is not functional for the last half of the year. There is Clubnet in EE as well, but is it mostly theoretical as wel

Re: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread Orr Dunkelman
I think this is far from being the aim for Haifux. I recall the reason was to have a place where Linux developers can meet and work together... We've gone quite a way from there, but we are after all Haifux. Any lecture which is on advocating Linux, or even on user space experience in Linux (who

Re: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 06:26:01PM +0300, gabik wrote: > I propose OS club. I think that's what clubsys is supposed to be... - Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROT

RE: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread gabik
I propose OS club. Not all Computer Science in general (for that me have the faculty, right?) >B) Gabi's approach - it's all about knowledge - anything goes Not everything. Only OS and OS related (networking in OS is of course related (not routing protocols, but OS implementation of sockets for

Re: [Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread Orr Dunkelman
There are three ways to treat haifux: A) A FOSS/Linux club (an interesting debate on its own) - anything which is not FOSS or Linux-related is discouraged, as it's not in the "charter" B) Gabi's approach - it's all about knowledge - anything goes C) the golden ratio, where we usually are A, but

[Haifux] Windows in Haifux

2007-04-10 Thread gabik
Hi Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > I don't quite see how a talk about a proprietary OS fits Haifux's charter? Orna wrote: > As I see it, Haifux is not an "OS club". When the idea of having a lecture about Windows drivers was brought up, I (and others) >objected for the same reason. I was very surpri

RE: [Haifux] another lecture proposal

2007-04-10 Thread gabik
Yes, I am interested. Gabi -Original Message- From: Muli Ben-Yehuda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 6:46 PM To: haifux@haifux.org Subject: [Haifux] another lecture proposal If there's interest, I'll be happy to give this talk I'll be giving at OLS '07 at Haifu

[Haifux] [Haifux Lecture] The OLPC project

2007-04-10 Thread Zvi Devir
Time+Place : Monday 16/04/2007 18:30, Taub 3 Speaker: Zvi Devir Host : Haifa Linux Club Title : The Children's Machine (AKA the $100 laptop) and the OLPC initiative Abstract : One Laptop per Child (OLPC) is a non-profit organization dedicated for the development and

Re: [Haifux] [Idea] How to Advertise the Lectures to Other Audiences

2007-04-10 Thread Amichai Rotman
Alon, Cool! I'll butify it a bit and re-distribute it to the list. It should be available for download on the lectures page, under a new column called: Poster / Sign... Thanks! On 4/10/07, Alon Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Draft attached. On Tue, 10 Apr 2007, Orr Dunkelman wrote: >

Re: [Haifux] [Idea] How to Advertise the Lectures to Other Audiences

2007-04-10 Thread Orr Dunkelman
A really good idea. Do you want to make a template in OO or in LaTeX for this? On 4/10/07, Amichai Rotman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I thought of a way to advertise the lectures to new audiences in a better way to suit Newbies: One of us with artistic talent (not me) creates a templa

[Haifux] [Idea] How to Advertise the Lectures to Other Audiences

2007-04-10 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi All, I thought of a way to advertise the lectures to new audiences in a better way to suit Newbies: One of us with artistic talent (not me) creates a template of a sign to be saved as PDF and EPS to be printed on a standard A4 sized page that includes the following details: The Haifux Logo (

Re: [Haifux] Yum problems from the Technion

2007-04-10 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
My current guess is that it is related to an uber-zealous firewall that is installed in the CS department. Within CS echo 'GET / HTTP/1.0\n\n' | netcat www.tau.ac.il 80 silently fails, while echo 'GET / HTTP/1.0\n\n' | netcat -i 1 www.tau.ac.il 80 returns TAU's homepage (after a se