Jim Gray wrote:
>Very good. However, I still do not understand hash tables or hashes. Does
>the % in front of the a make it a hash?
If you understand one dimensional arrays in MUMPS, you essentially understand
hashes.
Logically a hash is just a one dimensional associative array. That simply mea
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 19:41 -0700, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> There's always the alternative of "the big switch", but it
> has it's own problems. How would you handle these cases?
You have real references, real pointers or an associative array for the
dispatch table. None of these chew up globa
Actually, Marc, the model you describe is the deliverable project. VistA
was developed in a different model, continuous development.
Here the user is the developer, and he polishes what he builds, and he
builds the model that he will use this application today and tomorrow, and
the next day.
Thanks. I kind of hoped the list could offer suggestions for
improvement.
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Gregory Woodhouse
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"A hero is no braver than an ordinary
man, but he is brave five minutes longer."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
On Aug 24, 2005, at 7:30 PM, Jerry Sherman(burnam) wrote:
Greg;
What
Two of the most common applications of callbacks is registering
listeners for various types of GUI events (mouse moved, window
resized, button pressed) and creating handlers for SAX events when
processing XML. More generally, in my HL7 code I often use a simple
form of syntax directed trans
Greg;
What a great basic programming tutorial!! Maybe we should capture this and
put it somewhere
Jerry E. Sherman
Managing Partner
Burman Consulting
11504 Myer Road
Mitchellville, MD 20721
(301) 346-8526
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On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 19:04 -0700, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> Now, MUMPS doesn't have pointers, but you can use a variable to
> store
> the name (or part of the name) of another variable, or even a
> command. As a simple case, try the following
>
> SET X="HELLO"
> SET Y="X"
> WRITE @Y
>
> The
Best explanation I have seen of indirection.
Thanks,
thurman
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:04 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hard
Hey, I've got to do something to persuade people that all those books
in my office (okay, cube) aren't wall decorations, don't I?
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Gregory Woodhouse
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"And the end of all our exploring
will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time"
-- T.S. Eliot
Well, indirection is not a concept unique to MUMPS. Do you recall
that I said the symbol table associates a memory location with a
variable. Well, that memory location is identified by a (typically
large) integer. Indirection is the process of retrieving the value
stored at that location. I
In Perl, not in MUMPS. MUMPS arrays are more complex, allowing nodes
to have both values and children. Hashes in Perl only associate a
value (which may be a reference) to each key (subscript).
In general, a hash is an algorithm that computes a number from an
object of some type in such a wa
Only now some nursing school curriculum starts to
include "nursing informatics" but I doubt the depth
of the course will be able to cover even the beginner's
level software engineering stuff. (not the engineering
itself but what and how the user input goes into the process.)
Faculties teaching thos
And to think I bothered to buy some books. ;-)
Please tell me about indirection. That is the one thing I hear newish MUMPS
programmers saying they want to know more about.
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 06:40 pm, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> Computer programs manipulate values that are typically store
Very good. However, I still do not understand hash tables or hashes. Does
the % in front of the a make it a hash?
Jim Gray
- Original Message -
From: "Greg Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hardhats"
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:40 PM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] All about p
The only two changes to Kernel's DD are a new code (E for EHR) in the set of
codes in the AGENCY CODE field .02 in the AGENCY file 4.11 and the same code
added to the AGENCY CODE field 9 in the KERNEL SYSTEM PARAMETERS file
8989.3. And hashing algorithms are replaced for the stub routines XUSHSH
a
Joseph:
All countries will have to work at this as it is more complex thatn they
first think. Look at the IOM 2003 Report "Health Professions Education:
A Bridge to Quality". A Core Competency is "Use Informatics" and this
enables the other four Core Competencies mentioned. But everyone has had
Computer programs manipulate values that are typically stored in
variables. Real computers will big you access to a large contiguous
block of memory cells (typically 8-bit bytes) each identified by a
number called its address. In reality, the address is not a physical
address but what is sometimes
Yes, thats basically it but there are sociologic details to it.
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote:
User describe functionality and engineers turn functionality into a design,
present to users, users go this is not quite what we anted, repeat until
both agree. Correct ??
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 20:18 +, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
wrote:
> User describe functionality and engineers turn functionality into a
> design,
> present to users, users go this is not quite what we anted, repeat
> until
> both agree. Correct ?
>
Not correct. In this system you've
That's just the clarification that I was looking for. It sounded as
though VOE just could not and did not work on the demo license. I can
get the FOIA VistA to work just fine (using instructions found online)
but it wasn't clear if VOE needed the same adjustments or simply did not
work.
Let's sa
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 10:56 -0700, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> Users may say they need such and such a
> design, but that design may be ill-suited to their needs. More to the
> point, though, the use of a particular database product (or type of
> cabling) is simply not a functional issue.
More to the
Thaks Greg, I learned Fortran many years ago. Later I have programed in
BASIC and Visual Basic.
Alberto
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Greg
Woodhouse
Enviado el: Miércoles, 24 de Agosto de 2005 03:16 p.m.
Para: hardhats-members@lists.source
The countries with so-called "social medicine" are and have been making
the same mistakes with EHRs the US is/has (I say this from the
perspective of having dual EU/Candian citizenship...live in Canada, all
my relatives live in Europe or Australia and I have worked in health IT
internationally
Well, I have finishing coding two functions:
-- BFTG (Binary FTG), and
-- GTBF(Binary GTF)
for reading and writing binary data into a Global.
Once I figured out that Globals easily hold binary data, I gave up
converting the data to ascii hex codes.
But there is an interesting bug I found by readi
Is MUMPs your first language? Are you looking for something that will
teach you programming AND teach you MUMPS?
===
Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure."
--Kent Beck
--
Clearly I spoke to soon. I just forwarded Alberto's email about not being
able to get it in a timely fashion to Dr. Walters.
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 04:12 pm, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> I wrote to Richard Walters a few months ago anticipating a run on his books
> with the impending release of
That is a good JOKE, Jae! I have a very limited knowledge of all of this, a
LOT less than the limited knowledge that real experts like Cameron Schlehuber
and others who also say they have "limited knowledge" have.
You will not run out of interesting things to explore with VistA in your
lifet
That's exactly one of the books I ordered and are on backorder until
Sep-Oct.
Alberto
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Nancy
Anthracite
Enviado el: Miércoles, 24 de Agosto de 2005 02:12 p.m.
Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Asun
User describe functionality and engineers turn functionality into a design,
present to users, users go this is not quite what we anted, repeat until
both agree. Correct ?
Thanks
Marc Aylesworth
C3I Associates
AFRL/IFSE
Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team
525 Brooks Rd
Rome, NY 13441-4505
I wrote to Richard Walters a few months ago anticipating a run on his books
with the impending release of VistA-Office, and as I recall, he cced me on a
note to his publisher. His book is good and it looks like there are plenty
available on Amazon with a quick ship time. He also teaches an onl
Try http://www.alibris.com - it appears to be available from multiple
sellers, both new and used copies.
-- Bhaskar
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 15:00 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote:
> That's what they say, but its getting scarce (VistA fever?). I ordered
> it
> one week ago and they just notified me that i
Here is another site, but I haven't used it much.
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7041/mwm007/mw007tu1.html#Top
Kevin
On 8/24/05, Alberto Odor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's what they say, but its getting scarce (VistA fever?). I ordered it
> one week ago and they just notified me t
Welcome, Jae.
I haven't seen you post before. Let us know if we can be of help.
I'll be sure to send you Nancy's way if I can't figure something out.
Kevin Toppenberg
On 8/24/05, jae kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cheer up. I think this is the most interesing list I've ever registered.
> I
Clearly you have found a good home with us. Welcome aboard!
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 02:19 pm, jae kim wrote:
> Cheer up. I think this is the most interesing list I've ever registered.
> I decided to change my career to health care and now I'm
> starting from the bottom like ER Tech and nursin
And then there is this forum too...
http://vistaoffice-ehr.com/
Kevin
On 8/24/05, Joseph Dal Molin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rodney,
>
> There is already a discussion list for VOE established by IFMC and
> WorldVistA VVSO with well over 100 members on itit was announced a
> couple of
You are bypassing the restrictions that the VA has imposed on itself, not that
you have. The single user version is being used by a single user on a single
machine and Intersystems is well aware that we have been doing this for a
long time. They know about the instructions on the Hardhats web
That's what they say, but its getting scarce (VistA fever?). I ordered it
one week ago and they just notified me that it won't be available until Sept
or Oct.
Alberto
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de K.S.
Bhaskar
Enviado el: Miércoles, 24 de
Heck, I didn't notice any more than his ordinary "curmudgeoness", which I rag
him about, all in good fun, regularly. That's how you know it is Greg
writing in - that and if it is about computer related philosophy. Keeps us
all on and even keel, sorta like those signature quotes he includes. ;-
The best book on M (in my opinion) is "M Programming: A Comprehensive
Guide" by Ricard Walters. Amazon (US) says that it usually ships within
24 hours.
-- Bhaskar
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 13:33 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote:
> Is there a real web based tutorial for learning MUMPS? I have
> Googled
>
Robert,
From your vantage point as VOE technical lead, could you paraphrase the code
(as narrative pseudocode) which would enable or disable VOE from running on
single user ("free license) Cache.
Nancy describes this code " the VAs license checking routines" which can be
changed "to func
How about
http://www.jacquardsystems.com/Examples/
--- Alberto Odor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a real web based tutorial for learning MUMPS? I have Googled
>
> for hours and there's only history, FAQs, forum messages, etc.
>
>
> Most books on MUMPS are not available in Amazon an
Is there a real web based tutorial for learning MUMPS? I have Googled
for hours and there's only history, FAQs, forum messages, etc.
Most books on MUMPS are not available in Amazon and backorders can take
as much as two months.
Alberto Odor, MD
Mexico City
--
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
This is where I don't quite follow you. See below
--- "A. Forrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This was exactly my point in the earlier exchanges about the role of
the
MDC and maintenance of the technical platform and infrastructure upon
which VistA s
Cheer up. I think this is the most interesing list I've ever registered.
I decided to change my career to health care and now I'm
starting from the bottom like ER Tech and nursing. So I will
come from the other direction. They (most nurses and doctors)
have just no clue about what this computer thi
Rodney,
There is already a discussion list for VOE established by IFMC and
WorldVistA VVSO with well over 100 members on itit was announced a
couple of weeks ago.
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vista-officeehr-forum
Joseph
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is probably getting
This is where I don't quite follow you. See below
--- "A. Forrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This was exactly my point in the earlier exchanges about the role of
> the
> MDC and maintenance of the technical platform and infrastructure upon
>
> which VistA sits.
> The users are the health pro
Please understand that code can always be modified to make VOE work, I
did this for one application until I could get a better license. In
general I don't recommend this, the changes modifies the code
controlling the license tracking issued by Intersytems, I don't consider
that a valid option. Whi
Requirements analysis is a real skill. It requires a degree of domain
knowledge and understanding of the technical issues involved, but more
importantly, the "people" skills necessary to be able to effectively
facilitate the ongoing discussion between the parties involved, and to
appreciate the wha
This was exactly my point in the earlier exchanges about the role of the
MDC and maintenance of the technical platform and infrastructure upon
which VistA sits. The users are the health professional disciplines and
they need to know how the technical infrastructure is maintained
conformant to C
I have nothing to do with VOE, but I have a fair amount of development
experience in the VistA environment. In my view, this is a sign that
significant rework (i.e., maintenance) is needed, but it seems that
VistA projects almost invariably prove more difficult than expected. I
wouldn't give up on
We also have been able to achieve good functionality of the CPRS GUI on
the free version of Cache. We have to run it on the same box (can't
telnet to another machine), but it comes up just fine.
Rodney H. Kay
Healthcare Informatics Technology Services, Inc.
http://www.hits-inc.us
Doug Martin <[
Hang in there Greg. Sorry it has been a bad few days.
But I didn't notice any undue grumpiness.
:-)
Kevin
On 8/24/05, Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm watching The Science Channel right now, and the cosmologist Saul
> Perlmutter (I think I got that right) just said: "I'm
Yes, that is my point it needs input from people on both ends of the
process!!! Both the people it is being made for and the people that are
making it must have the same vision or expectations or what is being created
will not work. The users make a wish list and the engineer keeps it
realistic.
T
With some minor changes in the code, it should run just fine, and the changes
are comparable to those made in the instructions on Hardhats early on in the
instructions. It involves correcting the Box:Volume pair name and fixing the
VAs license checking routines to function properly with the sin
This is probably getting old, but with the delayed release of VOE, and
the subsequent acquisition of Daou by Proxicom, we wanted to provide a
forum where people could discuss VOE alternatives.
Not intended to be highly technical like Hardhats, but more in line of
"where can we go now". If your i
My experience has been that users generally do not have a very clear
idea of what they want. What they DO know is what doesn't work for them
in what they have now. The users will often have some (maybe even
mutually contradictory) ideas about what they do not, but when you sit
down with the users t
I continue to be confused by the statement that CPRS GUI will not run on the
free version of Caché. This is clearly not the case. As the previous post
indicates, the free version limits the number of concurrent processes and
prevents remote Telnet access, but is otherwise not constrained. We
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 10:44, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote:
> You should not get programming specs from a customer but should get general
> functionality that is desired. The customer should say I want to have remote
> clients that can do the same thing as local clients, or that I can enter
You should not get programming specs from a customer but should get general
functionality that is desired. The customer should say I want to have remote
clients that can do the same thing as local clients, or that I can enter all
the information for a patient from a remote station, then we the prog
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 09:12, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote:
> I believe that what he means is that we actually talk to someone who is
> going to use Vista, get the wish list then decide what is feasible in the
> given time and then do the work.
I understand that, and that is exactly what i
I believe that what he means is that we actually talk to someone who is
going to use Vista, get the wish list then decide what is feasible in the
given time and then do the work. I believe that we need user involvement to
ensure that we have something that actually does what is needed and to
foster
Sorry I wasn't more specific, yes VOE will run on the free version of
Cache (Cacheweb), but the CPRS GUI will not function. Since the CPRS
GUI is what everyone wants to test, then for all practical purposes VOE
will not function correctly. The terminal capability will function and
therefore the r
Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> Gee...I thought that was a private response. I guess now everyone knows
> what I really think.
No harm done,
Gregory, everyone knows what you think.
Please continue not concealing your take on the truth.
:-)
> "A hero is no braver than an ordinary
> man, but he is b
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