Good morning,
We are attempting to find AFB controls from human sources. We would trade if
we have something you need and we have available. Does anyone have blocks they
might share or trade without upsetting our HIPPA people on either side. I am
really not interested in buying slides as we
We are looking for a small slide dryer (hold up to three 30 position short
racks) that will reach 65C and when opened return to temperature within 1 or 2
minutes. It does not have to fancy and is only used for special stains so it
is not a constant use item.
Pam
I am asking this question for our IHC Supervisor. She is looking for a source
for the ATRX antibody as either an RUO or preferably IVD. They use the Ventana
Ultras and Benchmarks so if anyone has a procedure that would be great.
Pam
l very bad for the patients at this point. I have not
given up just trying to find a way to get change and better results.
Thank You All for Your Suggestions!!
Pam
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From: Gudrun Lang [mailto:gu.l...@gmx.at]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 2:19 AM
To: Marcum, Pamela A <pamar...
ut! (WILLIAM DESALVO)
11. Re: Fwd: (Rene J Buesa)
12. HHV-8 RTU (Delray Beach Pathology Kari Simeone)
13. PAS/Decal Question (Marcum, Pamela A)
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Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 17:39:28 +
From: Lester Raff
We are still having issues with our PAS stain on decaled bone marrows. The
Pathologists in HemePath are seeing what they refer to as smudginess in cells
on some areas of the completed PAS slides. We have looked at everything and
cannot find where the issue is coming from at this point. We
When I was at NSH in Austin, I talked to a vendor with a very different type of
Histology. It was very soft and far less porous than the normal blue sponges.
Does anyone remember this or can you tell me where to get them? I believe the
company was from the UK with offices or distributors in
We have a problem with the cell membranes separating on our bone marrow slides
on our PAS slides done daily. We have tried everything to fix this and stop
the problem. We have tried manual staining, bulk staining on the Leica Stainer
and the Dako Artisan and all have the same problem. I am
Good Afternoon,
We have two openings in our Histology Laboratory at the University of Arkansas
for Medical Sciences in Little Rock. We have competitive pay and a sign on
bonus for the right candidates. The positions are for bench Histologist with
experience however; we would consider someone
WE currently have two open positions for either registered HT or HTL. Registry
must be current and some experience. We are a heavily computerized Histology
Laboratory and will require the persons applying to be comfortable with
computers. We are a routine Histology Laboratory at the
Try Delaware Diamond Knives and Dorn and Hart. I believe both sell steel and I
know they sell tungsten carbide. Pam Marcum
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From: Eileen Akemi Allison [mailto:akemiat3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:25 AM
To: Maria Mejia
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re:
Most places I have been use the block as numeric and the part as alpha;
15SR1235 A (part) 1 (block) and etc. I have not seen it cause an issue and if
we go beyond Z as the alpha then we double back to an AA for the part and so
on. We just hope a resident doesn't go off track to often with the
We have one part-time PRN positions open at UAMS in Little Rock AR and a
full-time Histology position. The person must be ASCP registered as either HT
or HTL to qualify. We are a very automated lab for special stains and routine
staining, including coverslippers. Computer skills will be
I took my registry while I was doing neuroanatomical research on animals. At
the time I took it I was told do not use animal tissue or you will fail. I had
to find someone with a clinical Histology lab who would allow me to come in for
my practical exam work. I just had to prove myself when
157 blocks on one breast case - resident grossed it.
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From: Michael Mihalik [mailto:m...@pathview.com]
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:41 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Friday Trivia Question: Most specimen on a single case
Please excuse
We are currently looking for a register HT or HTL for full time bench work at
the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences in Little Rock AR. The
position will entail processing, embedding and staining for both routine and
special stains. The applicant should have experience with
How thick are you cutting? Is the block cold? Are you using disposable
knives? Are you moving the knife when you start sectioning? How fast are you
attempting to cut?
What kind of tissue are you cutting? Do you know which paraffin is being used?
There are many reasons for wrinkles and
We have an immediate opening for full time HT or HTL for early morning shift at
the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences in Little Arkansas. We have
great benefits, 2 weeks' vacation and sick leave. Since it is a state facility
we also have all Federal holidays and you birthday off.
Exactly how we handle it here. Years ago they something biological spill in
the tube system and the whole thing had to be decontaminated. No one ever
volunteered who did it, but it cost a fortune to clean up. Still once in a
whole someone will just have a brain hiccup and send something.
Not allowed in our lab at all. We use charged slides for everything since we
also cut IHC slides. It is not good for IHC and can cause hideous background
on slides. We rarely have anything float.
Pam Marcum
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
In most cases it means nothing and if you are in Histology and the
administration considers Histology a non-professional laboratory personnel area
the pay is lower. Sorry I have fought this for 5.5 years here and the
difference between an HT and HTL is the degree only not the registry. If it
Can we clone her?
-Original Message-
From: Mark Turner [mailto:mtur...@csilaboratories.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:26 PM
To: Paula Sicurello; Michael Ann Jones
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald; Marcum, Pamela A;
Timothy Morken
Subject: RE
That was nicer than the pathologist who told me years ago, any monkey could be
trained to do my job. I basically did not take the job I was interviewing for
at the time. At least the next interview went a lot better and I did take the
job.
Pam
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From:
If you are interested in this position please contact Nephropath directly.
Nephropath is seeking a manager for its CAP accredited laboratory. Prospective
candidates should hold a bachelor's degree as well as HTL or MT certification
and have a minimum of five years of experience supervising in
I have always bought saturated Picric Acid and not a specific strength. Avoid
making it from scratch!! Pam
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of nancy lowen
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 3:57
We routinely pull tissue from the processor and in the time it takes to load
the embedding centers in numeric and alpha case order the block cool and
paraffin will harden. I would not call it freezing it has just cooled. We
start embedding immediately and between the heat on the embedding
We have literally about one hundred slides to re-slip for the this reason. Are
there any suggestions for large numbers of slides to be re-coverslipped as this
method would be too time consuming. We have used only glass for about nine
years or so and it is much better. The old ones are the
Please give your processing schedule with times and reagents? It is hard to
help without knowing how the tissue was handled from sacrifice to embedding.
Pam Marcum
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On
We have six Leica RM2255 and they are great workhorses. The automated controls
are flexible as they can be on either side or on top of the microtome as needed
or is most comfortable. I personally like using the foot pedal for facing the
blocks and I do get old fashion and cut my sections
Have you checked lot numbers and expiration dates? I have only seen issues
with slides that are stored in a very humid place or where the temperatures
vary greatly over a year in storage. We use the ThermoFisher Colorfrost
slides and have no problems here or where I lived in Pennsylvania.
I have been using RM2255 for almost 10 years and never had a clamp problem. We
have six in the lab with three of them more than 8 years old and other than
routine PMs or the occasional human err problem these are great workhorses. We
keep contracts on them so we have great service. I used
Good Morning All,
THE ARKANSAS SOCIETY FOR HISTOTECHNOLOGY - SPRING MEETING - MARCH 7TH, 2015 IN
LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS PLEASE JOU US!!
The meeting is being held at the Baptist Schools of Health in Little Rock and
is open to anyone in Histology and related or interested fields. The following
Good Morning!
We are holding our regular Arkansas Society for Histotechnology Meeting on
March 7th, 2015, in Little Rock AR. This will be a one day meeting with eight
speakers on topic from the Medical Examiner' Office to general/IHC for the
Clinical Histology Laboratory. We are also
We have used both and prefer the Dao hands down. They are responsive if you
have questions and very good staining. We don't need to clean t after each run
as it is all self contained and easy to use.
Pam
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Hazel is correct if you use the pure ethanol the paperwork is horrible and the
limits on what should be in the lab are very low for a normal Histology Lab.
Reagent alcohol is the best way to go as it has methanol and isopropanol in it
so it is undrinkable and therefore not under the same ATF
We use our Leica HE stainer for PAS only as it is the fastest way we have
found to get 30 to 40 bone marrow PAS slides out before 6:30AM every morning.
Otherwise it was just too cumbersome and the Dako does a great job on all
routine stains. We only do the neuro stains and Copper by hand now.
We do 3 levels with no more than 2 sections per level. It is what the
pathologists prefer and therefore what we do.
Pam Marcum
UAMS
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Eileen Akemi
I am not sure where you live so this may or may not apply. I have lived in
several placed and one I learned no matter where I am when they turn on the
heat and you wear anything with polyester or that can become electrostatic we
had issues with static. I am not sure how to fit it as I have
Thank you and all who help you for this service. It is greatly appreciated and
needed for all who are in the Histology field.
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Margraf
Sent: Friday,
One of our histologist uses a tennis ball on the end of his handle on the fly
wheel. He says it helps him keep his wrist level. I can see it allows him to
use less reach with his hand and his wrist is straighter than most. I really
need to try this myself someday. I was trained wrist
Happens every year at this time with various vendors and end of year. I always
over order in October to be sure I am good through the end of the year or as
close as I can. I know the things I use most and those are just what is always
in backorder at the end of the year. October became my
We have days when one of the histologist who has been here for years and I
(going in 50years) start talking about the good days and everyone here is under
40. They look shocked and then disbelief and then they think we are kidding.
They are so sure we have always known which chemicals were
Hi Tim,
We had looked at one time, for a smaller cold plate to be used at the microtome
during sectioning and could not find anything suitable. We were told that they
would be very expensive and the one example I found was just that. It would
eliminate the water and mess of the melting ice
We do have someone come in on Saturday for half a day. We have an average of
35 bone marrows a day and getting them cut and ready on Saturday is what we
have to do to make Monday work. This is a teaching hospital and the residents
love to submit everything but the kitchen sink on Fridays and
We give a half day during the week for the half day worked on Saturday. This
ended the overtime. Since we start at 4AM generally the person on call will
have some day during the week they want to leave early. Since we have the
schedule up before the first of the month most can make
First of all THANK YOU for getting our field into a high school and teaching
the kids. This is a very good thing for all of us in the field.
Could you give us an idea of the size of the specimen you are attempting to
process? A great deal depends on the tissue size as to how long it can be
We have four Excelsior processors and love them. We had some very old VIPs
that we replaced with them over the past few years. They are safer as the
reagent handling and changing is quick and simple. We dump the alcohol when
the unit hygrometer (and the techs) see the percentage is low and
We do about the same thing with the embedding and sectioning. The computers
are touch screen and some people use them, others use the pad on the keyboard,
the rest asked for mice. We have no way to get the information we need for
sectioning from the system so, we have to do the paperwork by
We have really old floor tiles and do not allow Housekeeping to wax them with
anything that would be slippery. They use a non-skid wax only if they use
anything.
Pam Marcum
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
How old are the rats?
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of William J.
O'Connor III
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:38 AM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Whole
We love our Dako Artisan stainers and would not take the other brand back for
any reason. The techs love the ease of use and the pathologist love the
stains. What more could you ask!!
Pam Marcum
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Good Morning,
We have a job opening at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences for a
registered HT OR HTL. We have great benefits, retirement and holidays for our
employees and a relaxed, busy Histology Laboratory. We have an active service
with routine histology, special stains on
We have 4 Excelsiors although the earlier non-touch screen version. We love
them and have had very few problems with them, generally just getting routine
maintenance and taking good care for our maintenance is enough. The reagent
exchange is great with no problem there either. We have
I have not worked in or visited as technical representative since the middle
70' that allowed in any food or drink in the lab anywhere. If you have food or
snacks they go in your locker and out of the lab or don't bring them in.
In most labs this an automatic write up and can lead to
We have a job opening for an ASCP registered HT or HTL in our active and modern
Histology Department. We are connected with one of the largest Multiple
Myeloma Departments with numerous bone marrows per day as well as biopsies and
routine surgicals. We do routine staining and have automated
One of our biggest issues is getting the residents and gross room staff to cut
things appropriately. We need the biopsies laying out flat on the wet inter
bag and they seem to have issues refolding after the placement is completed or
fold part into the bag distorting it. We have tried to get
We have no Histologist in the Gross Room and path assistants often do the
biopsies as they meet CLIA guidelines for this. The residents are required to
do certain biopsies and we have no control over it. The argument has been
raging now for years and it is what it is so we live with it. You
We embed and cut and by priority for: 1) bone marrows, 2) biopsies, 3) breast
cases 4) surgicals, 5) placentas, 6) autopsies. RUSH cases for kidney, liver
and heart take priority over all!
Occasionally we will have requests for a specific case to be cut earlier than
the usual priority list
I am sorry to hear of our loss in the Histology world and more importantly of a
truly good person in our lives.
Pam Marcum
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee Peggy Wenk
Sent: Monday,
Same here for printing staying on. We use Thermo ColorFrost, slides have no
problems. It may depend on the finish the manufacturer uses for the paint on
the slides.
Pam Marcum
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Have you changed your reagent alcohol or has the company you buy from changed
where it purchases the reagent alcohol? Reagent alcohols with higher volumes
of isopropanol than 5% can cause the eosin to leach out. It will leave a
green powder in the bottom of you staining dish. Methanol and
We have 4 Excelsiors and love them. We also have one Leica ASP300 and it is a
great workhorse for us. I think it just depends on your lab and what you like
or what serves you best.
Pam Marcum
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
I have had the same issue and was told by HistoNet about the problem of
bounces. I did get some strange e-mails coming through on HistoNet that I
deleted. The problem was they opened in my end mail box due to my view
settings before I could get rid of them. I am wondering if this was the
Try Delaware Diamond Knives or Dorner (Think). There are several if you Google
just Histology Steel Knives.
Pam Marcum
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of idimi...@mun.ca
Sent: Wednesday,
I would try Polyscientific RD. One thing we have an issue with on cost is the
silver used in these kits is based on market value. If the price of silver is
up so are the prices of silver based kits.
Pam Marcum
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Thanks Peggy and Amen! When you have people taking human tissue and facing 25
or 30 blocks at a time and then leaving them face down on ice with water it
causes the issues you stated. Soaking is something that was far more common in
the past as the tissue fixed on processors with less reagent
Also we had time when finding a non-defrost freezer was difficult and lower
temps were not only best; they were about the only way not to have unit turn
off and on allowing tissue and antibodies to partially defrost. Some of us
learned that the hard way in early days of IHC.
Bill is correct
Dako has some excellent training information for beginners and I think Leica
may also have something. If you talk to your Dako rep or contact them by phone
or look online you should be able to get the information fairly quickly.
Pam Marcum
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From:
We have had the Thermo system with the slide writers and cassette writers for a
little over two and a half years. We did have issues when we got the system as
it was new to the market and had some bugs. Thermo fixed the problems and
Thermo stood by us until we got everything we needed. They
processes and the pathologist are much happier.
Pam Marcum
UAMS
-Original Message-
From: O'Donnell, Bill [mailto:billodonn...@catholichealth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:42 AM
To: Marcum, Pamela A; 'Jb'; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Thermo equipment
The rule here is a blade is cheaper than a cut. Anytime you are walking away
and returning within a few minutes to cut use the knife guard otherwise throw
the blade out. It is an accident looking to happen. Recently we had a tech
decide not use the knife guard and seriously cut himself by
Delaware Diamond Knife has always been an excellent company to deal with on
diamond knives and tungsten carbide.
Pam Marcum
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Philip Slakmon
Sent: Wednesday,
We use the Slide Mate and we really like them. We did have one problem with
the printer tape and then we got a different lot and things have been much
better. The slides we use are the Thermo Colorfrost slides, in 6 colours and
we have had no issues with the ink smearing or coming off.
Pam
The hospital code for the laboratory is long pants, no open toed shoes,
appropriate scrub or other tops. The hospital does not provide the scrubs
here. We can buy what we want as long as they are not over the top. Most
hospitals have similar codes that are linked to safety and professional
I have also piggybacked on another HistoNet e-mail when nothing else worked.
Always with an apology to the original submitter. Pam Marcum
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joanne Clark
I still can and learned from someone older than me years ago to save you any
good cotton denim possible. If you stretch taut and gently run the edge of a
sharpened knife over it, the material will remove fine grit and further smooth
the edge.
I can still remember the first person I saw drop
Thank you and well said!!
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Tim Higgins
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:17 AM
To: anni...@gmail.com; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet]
Thank you Bob! I remember when pathology residents had to spend some time in
histology learning at least enough to know we were a team not enemies.
Residents now barely get to see the Histology Lab so expecting them to see us
as anything other than labor is a part of the issue. Their world
Actually the coverslipper from Leica is very good and can be linked to the
stainer. It is also a glass coverslipper not tape. It is always about money
and that may be the thing that decides no matter what any of prefers.
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From:
. Re: Equipment selection (Rene J Buesa)
3. RE: Equipment selection (Huggins, Haley - MRMC)
4. RE: Equipment selection (Marcum, Pamela A)
5. Need your expertise (Webb, Dorothy L)
6. RE: Histonet Digest, Vol 118, Issue 23 (Tim Higgins
selection (Huggins, Haley - MRMC)
4. RE: Equipment selection (Marcum, Pamela A)
5. Need your expertise (Webb, Dorothy L)
6. RE: Histonet Digest, Vol 118, Issue 23 (Tim Higgins)
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Date: Thu, 12 Sep
Clinical you
will have a problem passing the test without help.
Pam Marcum
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From: Weems, Joyce K. [mailto:joyce.we...@emoryhealthcare.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 8:08 AM
To: 'Jennifer MacDonald'; Marcum, Pamela A
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; histonet
, September 11, 2013 8:30 AM
To: 'Weems, Joyce K.'; 'Jennifer MacDonald'; Marcum, Pamela A
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
Histology does not get the respect or the recognition because histologists do
not report
and bitching and bitching, they could exhaust the drama of their
own horror stories. Grow bored. Only then could they accept a new story for
their lives. Move forward.
-Chuck Palahniuk, Haunted
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Marcum, Pamela A pamar...@uams.eduwrote:
Agreed and now
expenses we are not able to go
to meetings in far flung places.
Pam Marcum
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From: Mitchell Jean A [mailto:jmitch...@uwhealth.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:26 AM
To: Horn, Hazel V; 'Weems, Joyce K.'; 'Jennifer MacDonald'; Marcum, Pamela A
Cc: histonet
Sorry Sarah some of us old timers do have BS and even MS degrees and still have
to fight for every dime. The whole field needs to be improved without any
thought of how long someone has been in Histology. We have the issue of people
who have HTs being called HTLs due to the way the two
Research is a different area and not controlled by CAP, CLIA and other hospital
licensing or accreditation organizations. We are bound by the rules of these
organizations and while I agree with you to a point. We do need minimums for
training and registration by recognized licensing bodies
of Histology.
I am in a small market and finding a registered Histologist is harder for us.
I would love to have 8 to choose from and interview.
Pam Marcum
From: joelle weaver [mailto:joellewea...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 2:59 PM
To: Marcum, Pamela A; 'Emily Sours'; histonet
The last answer will cover most paraffins used routinely and may cover
microwave also. Temperatures below 58C are often melt points however; they may
not be a complete liquid or have slightly increased viscosity.
Pam Marcum
UAMS
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From:
If you have pharmaceutical, some veterinary and research areas in universities
or even some private labs are not as strict. In the future we may all face the
challenge of having a certification as a requirement and we should be ready it.
We have seen the field change and my only issue is
This will be difficult discussion for many of us who were OJT in the 60s to
even into the 90s however; ASCP and states have now developed licensing
regulations that require through CLIA that almost prohibit the this track for
registration. The problem here is we have too few schools and
The interesting thing is the history of Histotechnican and Histotechnologist.
We have probably all been called both if we have been in this field very long.
Recently, I had a reason to find out how it actually came about and where the
two titles came from originally and got so confused.
Try Polyscientific RD. We use their kits for manual staining and they have
been great.
Pam Marcum
UAMS
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lori White
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:05
We use the surgical case number and a minimum of the first 5 letters of the
patients name on barcode labeled cassettes and then that code will be
transferred to the slides as they are printed. We have found that having two
identifiers on every cassette and slide has saved us when an error was
Due to legal issues, if we have a cassette mislabeled we request a cassette
with the correct patient information immediately and re-embed the block.
Biopsies are a concern as it is sometimes difficult to re-embed a small tissue,
so we do our best. We have had times when we cross out the
Hi Jim,
We have four Excelsiors here at UAMS in the Histology Lab. We bought two to
replace very old VIPs over 2 years ago and were very happy with the processing
and the safety. We have less exposure to fumes as well as ease of use. As
supervisor I am concerned about safety. If I find
Since we have some power issues here and 4 Excelsiors (no problems with them on
this issue) we have UPS units on all of our computerized equipment. We did
this due to issues in other areas of the lab and decided it was safer than
taking a chance and being down. We bought Powervar and I think
Please let me know if you can help on this one.
Pam Marcum
UAMS
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Sorry, I was not clear. I need the control slides if someone offers them.
-Original Message-
From: Bernice Frederick [mailto:b-freder...@northwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:15 PM
To: Marcum, Pamela A
Subject: RE: Does anyone sell or have Bielchowsky slides for sale
They were using AccuEdge here for years and we changed to the Thermo MX35
Premier 3 years ago with no issues. In fact everyone was very upset for about
a month and then they did not want to change back. So, it really depends on
the knife and as I was told after using them for month they could
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