[hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread DontWannaName!
It seems that someone, not valve, is delisting most of the west coast making it so our servers do not show in any list except in favorites. This is severely hurting our population and forcing users to find servers elsewhere. Whoever is doing this doesnt want people joining servers on the west

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread 1nsane
I believe there's a sourcemod plugin which runs the `heartbeat` command every XX seconds (as preset by a command). Might wanna try using that in the meantime. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:13 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.comwrote: It seems that someone, not valve, is delisting most of the

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread 1nsane
This: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=102052 On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:21 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: I believe there's a sourcemod plugin which runs the `heartbeat` command every XX seconds (as preset by a command). Might wanna try using that in the meantime. On

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Craig H
It would take an extremely large and organized group of individuals to actually do what you are claiming. Are you certain that you are being blacklisted? You may just be having problems with your connection to the master servers. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, DontWannaName!

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Saul Rennison
Are you sure your servers are contacting master? Thanks, - Saul. On 4 February 2010 22:13, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: It seems that someone, not valve, is delisting most of the west coast making it so our servers do not show in any list except in favorites. This is

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread DontWannaName!
I am positive, there are barely any servers on the west coast. The heartbeat is a work around but whoever is doing it, is sending the packets so fast that its almost impossible to combat it. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Craig H robolea...@gmail.com wrote: It would take an extremely large and

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread 1nsane
Only takes one connection. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Craig H robolea...@gmail.com wrote: It would take an extremely large and organized group of individuals to actually do what you are claiming. Are you certain that you are being blacklisted? You may just be having problems with your

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Craig H
I almost forgot! Valve is going to be performing maintenance on Steam as a whole today, seeing as Valve is on the west coast, they are probably starting there. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.comwrote: I am positive, there are barely any servers on the west

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread DontWannaName!
That is completely different. This has been going on for a month now. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Craig H robolea...@gmail.com wrote: I almost forgot! Valve is going to be performing maintenance on Steam as a whole today, seeing as Valve is on the west coast, they are probably starting

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Philip Bembridge
IMHO, Don'tWannaName knows what he is talking about as he is an experienced server operator; it is probably not down to his servers not connecting to the master or heartbeating. Phil ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Kyle Sanderson
It wouldn't take much to delist every single West Coast server, I'm sure it would be more than possible to do it with a simple 10mbit box. For instance at one point I was able to view my server in the server browser just fine, now my test server is well... Unknown to the masses, than again this

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
DontWannaName, Do you run any kind of shenanigans on your server? I think it's been about a month since valve implemented blacklisting (in fact, almost a month to the day) http://store.steampowered.com/news/3308/ Your servers are showing up on some blacklists, including:

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Nightbox
My Server TF2 Romania Vanilla is listed as fake slots. We never used fake slots so i don't trust this list. 2010/2/5 Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com DontWannaName, Do you run any kind of shenanigans on your server? I think it's been about a month since valve implemented

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread adam spurgin
this is also a screenshot from a few seconds ago: http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4880/serversq.png On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:22 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.comwrote: I dont know why people think I run fake clients, those black lists are all unconfirmed and could have been added

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Andy C
That's funny. My clan's TF2 server, which we just took down, is showing up on the first blacklist you have there. All we had running was the Valve created bots for the maps that they can play on and we some how got on that list.. oh well, took the server down anyway because there wasn't enough

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Andy C
Same with mine... no fake slots plugins but my clan's server is on there as well... doesn't matter anymore since we took it down, but that list obviously can't be trusted. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.comwrote: My Server TF2 Romania Vanilla is listed as fake

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Mark Gunnett
I don't trust those lists, because I've noticed that our servers have reported clients in-game, when in fact, they have not been in game. It's all part of a refresh problem I'm going to guess. I once tested the problem by kicking one of our guys who had been idleing in spectate. I check the list

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread DontWannaName!
I dont think it happens 24/7 there are periods where it stops but I can assure you it does happen very often and at bad times such as the evenings. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Andy C grossk...@flotgaming.net wrote: Same with mine... no fake slots plugins but my clan's server is on there as

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread DontWannaName!
or its scanning for version cvars and flagging servers that have certain mods installed or settings. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Mark Gunnett mgunnett4...@gmail.com wrote: I don't trust those lists, because I've noticed that our servers have reported clients in-game, when in fact, they

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
DontWannaName, Is 68.68.32.217:27015 is one of your servers? nslookup 68.68.32.217 Server: home Address: 192.168.1.254 Name:TopNotchClan.com Address: 68.68.32.217 I dont know why people think I run fake clients The output of meta list on your server seems to declare otherwise. I

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Ian Fidel
I didn't join every single server that I'm not familiar with on the blacklist, but the blacklist seems very accurate to me. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: DontWannaName, Is 68.68.32.217:27015 is one of your servers? nslookup

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread DontWannaName!
I never said I didnt have it loaded. Sure its there but I dont use it, if I were to run fake clients dont you think I would hand L duke or perhaps Pred a few bucks. Try not to get off topic, this thread isnt just about me its about how the west coast is being delisted. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Violent Crimes
That one burns more then it did after I had sex with that tranny prostitute named Joe. On 2/4/2010 7:02 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: DontWannaName, Is 68.68.32.217:27015 is one of your servers? nslookup 68.68.32.217 Server: home Address: 192.168.1.254 Name:

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Mycologist
We seem to be doing fine. We're Seattle based and still show up on all server lists. Thing is, we're showing up on this amateur blacklist: http://tf2stats.net/fake_players/ I talked with some other server operators on that list, that like us, don't use fake clients. It seems that list is

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Ian Fidel
Maybe West Coast has high tendency of loading fake player. I think you should unload it and ask them (whoever is responsible for the blacklist) to take your servers off the list. Although I think it would be fair only if the servers stayed on blacklist forever and had to change their IPs. Oh

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread DontWannaName!
Try again later. Its sporadic. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:35 PM, adam spurgin adam.spur...@gmail.com wrote: like i posted above, i'm also getting around 180. my server doesn't want to show up, but it hasn't been up for very long. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM, DontWannaName!

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Cc2iscooL
Hmm, you're right. I just saw it. Started at about ~28. Refreshed twice, 30-38 Refreshed again, 48. Again, 60. Again, 10. Interesting. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.comwrote: Try again later. Its sporadic. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:35 PM, adam spurgin

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread DontWannaName!
If it makes you feel better I have taken it off but that is not what is causing the random delisting. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Katie
More fun... I've been refreshing with the settings: US - West TF2 Not passworded And I'm getting between 186 and 191 servers all the time... Are you sure you guys don't have a program like Peer Guardian or some similar that's blocking 'suspect' IP addresses? I know some blocks will get added

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread DontWannaName!
I dont have anything like that. This just happens frequently but not always so its hard to notice. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Katie h...@fansubber.com wrote: More fun... I've been refreshing with the settings: US - West TF2 Not passworded And I'm getting between 186 and 191 servers

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Allan Button
DontWannaName!, You should remove the plugin before Valve delists when it sees it loaded. I know I was pointing my gun at you, but I was not going to shoot Allan -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Cc2iscooL
Absolutely sure, never used PG or any other paranoia blocker. :) On Feb 4, 2010 7:47 PM, Katie h...@fansubber.com wrote: More fun... I've been refreshing with the settings: US - West TF2 Not passworded And I'm getting between 186 and 191 servers all the time... Are you sure you guys don't have

Re: [hlds] West Coast TF2 Servers Being Maliciously Delisted

2010-02-04 Thread Kyle Sanderson
Oops, I had Fake Clients running but none added . Kyle. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely sure, never used PG or any other paranoia blocker. :) On Feb 4, 2010 7:47 PM, Katie h...@fansubber.com wrote: More fun... I've been refreshing with the