Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-11 Thread Marcel
I just wanted to leave my 2 cents that this really sucks. Bad move valve :( ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Steffen Tronstad
@list.valvesoftware.com Emne: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the forums listed below. Windows server discussion should be conducted here

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Deegan
I have a bridge to sell all of you. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Eric-Jan Riemers
list Onderwerp: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists I noticed this too, I don't see any change at https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427-OPFH-2819 Kveri Rick Payton wrote: Well according to the mailing list support page linked earlier

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Philip Bembridge
What are we going to do about discovering exploits? Post them in the valve forums? Make me laugh.. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Marc.B
Hi, Just to agree with almost everyone over here... Stopping this list is the worst idea ever. When there is an update or a problem, we can report it here, and almost everyone will get it if you use a forum, we will have to wait for others to check in there. It is also a great resource to the

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Adam Smith
...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Oliver Salzburg
regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly impossible to view James Gurney wrote: SakeFox wrote: Ok, make a new mailing list then. the software

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly impossible to view

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Heres my 10 cents... 1) I cant be arsed visiting another bloody website to check for updates, report issues, et al 2) The forums at steam can get so overloaded on an update its like their being DoS'd 3) l33t et al are just gonna piss us off with nonsense blah blah blah 4) Maybe Valve DO read

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Wolfie - Cybernetic
. Andy -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Miano, Steven M. Sent: 10 February 2009 13:43 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Kevin J. Anderson
Of Miano, Steven M. Sent: 10 February 2009 13:43 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists Great news that they have thought twice about dismantling this list. Thanks for listening Valve, and thanks

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Oliver Salzburg
regarding the HLDS mailing lists Great news that they have thought twice about dismantling this list. Thanks for listening Valve, and thanks for posting to the Mailing List guys. ~MianoSM CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Burton Johnsey
Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off migrating the mailing lists to the forums. The intent of migrating to the forums was to leverage the benefits and features of the forums to further strengthen the community, giving us a central spot to gather feedback. The forum

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Wolfie - Cybernetic
server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off migrating the mailing lists to the forums. The intent of migrating to the forums was to leverage the benefits and features of the forums

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Joseph Laws
Burton, what is the bottom line reason for wanting to end the mailing list? This is far easier to monitor and respond than forums. The last thing I want to be doing is having to login to the forum to see wtf is going on when I already have it sitting in my inbox. Burton Johnsey wrote: Given

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread AusNet Servers Server Administrators
Johnsey Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2009 4:19 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off migrating the mailing lists to the forums. The intent

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread ics
One thing bothers me with forums vs mailing list. For example if there is new exploit going on around there at servers (lets say a cvar that crashes the server if player types it in his/her console) and someone actually mentions about it at forums, suddenly post gets edited by moderator. So

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Steven Hartland
Forums are good for something's, admin interaction is not one of those things I'm afraid. The primary reason for this is that forums are a pull technology and not push. Full time admins simply don't have the time to go and look for information and as such a mailing list is the only viable option.

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Carlos Echevarne
:43 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists Great news that they have thought twice about dismantling this list. Thanks for listening Valve, and thanks for posting to the Mailing List guys. ~MianoSM

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Imre Facchin
we could start documenting solutions and faqs from the mailing list in some sort of CMS so that valve has something for their forums documentation section ... but probably nobody would write anything there On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: Indeed

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread SakeFox
trying to get a all the people to do that wouldn't work. although i suggested early that maybe it might be something to invest into getting one or two volunteers from the mailing list and someone from valve that they would be able to email the latest issues from the mailing list and keep

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Gary Stanley
At 01:13 PM 2/10/2009, rav...@arkanox.net wrote: I'm registered to a bunch of mailing list related to server software such as DSPAM, Drupal, WordPress, DirectAdmin, etc. Each email for a mailing list is dropped in a specific folder in my inbox using filters. It would be a nightmare for me to

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Gary Stanley
At 01:13 PM 2/10/2009, rav...@arkanox.net wrote: I'm registered to a bunch of mailing list related to server software such as DSPAM, Drupal, WordPress, DirectAdmin, etc. Each email for a mailing list is dropped in a specific folder in my inbox using filters. It would be a nightmare for me to

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Jordan Toor
Yeah, I agree. I think there should be atleast a wiki on valve's site (possibly to accompany the forums) if they are going to shut down the mailing list. This would allow us to keep a documentation of (atleast frequent) information in the mailing list. There is a talk section of each article, so

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Andrew Armstrong
February 2009 9:51 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists I wouldn't mind seeing an official valve wiki, provided we get official documentation alongside user added submissions. I tried to think of something

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Patrick Shelley
Great speech msleeper, if my daughter has trouble sleeping tonight i'll be sure to read it to her... In my one email on this subject, not once did i infer that thie mailing list is/was/should be an open channel to Valve or indeed a support channel. Ive pasted it below so you can re-read it:

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Rick Payton
...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Shelley Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists SNIP I pop in and out of the channel to ask the odd question here and there in the hope

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-10 Thread Guy Watkins
...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SakeFox } Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:11 PM } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing } lists } } and i completely understand that, however there forums have been } proven

[hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Burton Johnsey
We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the forums listed below. Windows server discussion should be conducted here: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 (Source)

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread James Gurney
Burton Johnsey wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. Argh. This sucks. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the forums listed below. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I find mailing lists far superior for the sort of

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Florian Zschocke
Oh shit. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Burton Johnsey sp.tonj...@gmail.com wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread ics
Definitely horrible idea. I guess this is *our* fault since we a) Talk too much b) Critisize Valve Will you even leave hlds_announce for us so we can see future updates for dedicated servers faster than looking up server console or reading some Steam news? -ics James Gurney kirjoitti:

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread AFAdmin
Any specific reason why? Burton Johnsey wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the forums listed below. Windows server discussion should be conducted here:

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Florian Zschocke
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM, James Gurney ja...@globalmegacorp.org wrote: : Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I find mailing lists far superior for the sort of topics discussed here. The signal/noise ratio is drastically higher than a forum. It's delivered to my mailbox, so it's not yet another

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Rodrigo Peña
Valve staff using gmail accounts? AFAdmin escribió: Any specific reason why? Burton Johnsey wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the forums listed below. Windows

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Pawel
Ok so we will creat new mailing list :d On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM, James Gurney ja...@globalmegacorp.orgwrote: Burton Johnsey wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. Argh. This sucks. After February 20th, all server discussions should take

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Keeper
Probably easier to moderate :) -Original Message- From: AFAdmin [mailto:aidsf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:58 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists Any specific reason why

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread SakeFox
Ok, make a new mailing list then. the software is out there and free. Florian Zschocke wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM, James Gurney ja...@globalmegacorp.org wrote: : Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I find mailing lists far superior for the sort of topics discussed here. The

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Ryan Devonshire
Oh shit. Florian Zschocke wrote: Oh shit. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Burton Johnsey sp.tonj...@gmail.com wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread David A. Parker
This is ridiculous. Valve, I think everyone on this list will agree that you are eliminating the single best asset you have ever provided for server admins (who also tend to be game-buying customers). Mailing lists are a million times better than forums, mainly because you tend to get only

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Keeper
, February 09, 2009 4:01 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM, James Gurney ja...@globalmegacorp.org wrote: : Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I find mailing lists far superior

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Vladimir Osipenko
Some kind of new politics ? O-o, no no, that's all about the CRYSIS! Valve doesn't have any money to support maillist. They just don't understand that most of us wont read forum. Maybe someone will register google group or maillist? 2009/2/9 AFAdmin aidsf...@gmail.com: Any specific reason why?

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread SakeFox
The best part of this is that on patch days if there are issues you might as well forget trying to make people aware of the issues since there forums get so bogged down that there unresponsive. Ryan Devonshire wrote: Oh shit. Florian Zschocke wrote: Oh shit. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread James Gurney
SakeFox wrote: Ok, make a new mailing list then. the software is out there and free. No-one is going to join an un-official mailing list. I'd be quite happy to host one.. as would, I'm sure, many of the admins on this list.. but at the end of the day, the fact that this is an official list is

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Pawel
1 April :D On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Rodrigo Peña yo@korrupzion.com wrote: Valve staff using gmail accounts? AFAdmin escribió: Any specific reason why? Burton Johnsey wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Walton Hoops
dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM, James Gurney ja...@globalmegacorp.org wrote: : Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I find mailing lists far superior for the sort of topics discussed here. The signal

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread SakeFox
and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly impossible to view James Gurney wrote: SakeFox wrote: Ok, make a new mailing list then. the software is out there and free. No-one is

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Vladimir Osipenko
Do you think that RedHat, FreeBSD and etc etc are so stupid to have maillists and Valve is so clever to close it?! 2009/2/9 Burton Johnsey sp.tonj...@gmail.com: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Burton Johnsey
Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly impossible to view James Gurney wrote: SakeFox

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Mike Hodgkinson
I have been following this mailing list since the CS days, would be sad to see it silenced. I agree with James, will you reconsider leaving the mailing list as is? Florian Zschocke wrote: On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:51 PM, James Gurney ja...@globalmegacorp.org wrote: : Maybe I'm old

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread AFAdmin
By official, you mean they have the list.valvesoftware.com domain? James Gurney wrote: SakeFox wrote: Ok, make a new mailing list then. the software is out there and free. No-one is going to join an un-official mailing list. I'd be quite happy to host one.. as would, I'm sure,

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Vladimir Osipenko
We can register Google group(it will be always working) and there will be only true admins =) And this group(google group the same maillist) will join everyone,who wants to get support and etc 2009/2/10 James Gurney ja...@globalmegacorp.org: SakeFox wrote: Ok, make a new mailing list then. the

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Ronny Schedel
Haha, nice try :) We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the forums listed below. Windows server discussion should be conducted here:

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Chris
. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Florian Zschocke Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:01 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Ryan Devonshire
Well noticed. Gmail account? Rodrigo Peña wrote: Valve staff using gmail accounts? AFAdmin escribió: Any specific reason why? Burton Johnsey wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Pawel
IT IS FAKE SEND FROM sp.tonj...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:11 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote: and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly impossible to view James

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread James Gurney
That, and they are (were) listed as the official lists on the website, and they're read/posted to by Valve employees. AFAdmin wrote: By official, you mean they have the list.valvesoftware.com domain? James Gurney wrote: SakeFox wrote: Ok, make a new mailing list then. the

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Rick Payton
09, 2009 11:18 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists I assume this isn't real. -Burton Johnsey Valve Software From a gmail account? Can anyone confirm the validity of this post? On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:08

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Rick Payton
: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists IT IS FAKE SEND FROM sp.tonj...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:11 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote: and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread JäKë T
:18:01 -0600 From: the.autoly...@gmail.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists I assume this isn't real. -Burton Johnsey Valve Software From a gmail account? Can anyone confirm the validity of this post? On Mon, Feb

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Vladimir Osipenko
His last post is from bur...@valvesoftware.com , so its true 2009/2/10 Ryan Devonshire r...@gatewaygaming.co.uk: Well noticed. Gmail account? Rodrigo Peña wrote: Valve staff using gmail accounts? AFAdmin escribió: Any specific reason why? Burton Johnsey wrote: We will be shutting

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread AnAkIn .
Yes this is real. BurtonJ always post here with his gmail account. And just look at the Steam support link he posted: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427-OPFH-2819 2009/2/9 James Gurney ja...@globalmegacorp.org That, and they are (were) listed as the official lists on the

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Cc2iscooL
Unfortunately it's not fake, the official KB lists it. 2009/2/9 Pawel tra...@gmail.com IT IS FAKE SEND FROM sp.tonj...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:11 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote: and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Rick Payton
is out. Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:18:01 -0600 From: the.autoly...@gmail.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists I assume this isn't real. -Burton Johnsey Valve Software From a gmail account? Can anyone confirm

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread AFAdmin
...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Pawel Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:20 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists IT IS FAKE SEND FROM sp.tonj...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:11 PM, SakeFox sake

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Cc2iscooL
the forums. :) Maybe a irc channel setup could be a good way for server admins to know when an update is out. Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:18:01 -0600 From: the.autoly...@gmail.com To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists I

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Pawel
ok :) I don't know that he is writing from gmail :) 2009/2/9 Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com Unfortunately it's not fake, the official KB lists it. 2009/2/9 Pawel tra...@gmail.com IT IS FAKE SEND FROM sp.tonj...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:11 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Steven Sumichrast
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists Well, I was thinking the same thing, then Burton Johnsey posted from their valve account. If you ask me their retarded if this happens. Forums are just filled with stupid

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Ronny Schedel
, February 09, 2009 1:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Philipp Reddigau
Very bad idea -.- Burton Johnsey schrieb: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the forums listed below. Windows server discussion should be conducted here:

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Cc2iscooL
: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Andras Barna
can't believe man On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Philipp Reddigau phil...@gkserver.de wrote: Very bad idea -.- Burton Johnsey schrieb: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Chris
So the forums will be what we make of them. If we all migrate our useful feedback and ideas to the forums perhaps they will work. The fear of 13 year old whiners is still there though. I am not afraid of change; but I haven't seen Valve roll out any product or service without a few weeks of

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Philipp Reddigau
Maybe we have a chance to gain much people in a google group: http://groups.google.com/group/dedicated-hlds_linux Why that? I think we need a list such this. A Forum is not a good idea... Many many Kids will be their an no one will hve a look at it. So feel free to join. best regards, Philipp

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Ronny Schedel
The main problems besides the 13 year old kids are: 1. Steam forum volunteers (moderators) have no skill or knowledge at all, this leads to alot of deleted threads. 2. Valve employees do not read or answer in the Steam forums, so no feedback at all. This means we will have to send our

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Ronny Schedel
You separate yourself with a private mailing list. Okay, you can discuss about new server bugs in new releases, but then? Someone has to contact Valve to fix the bugs. Who will do this? Maybe we have a chance to gain much people in a google group:

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread ics
I dont know how others think of this but i personally would say that they have grown too big company to require our help. They dont seem to want us to help. This closure of lists is a clear sign. -ics Ronny Schedel kirjoitti: You separate yourself with a private mailing list. Okay, you can

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Zuko
Valve employees typically do not answer in subjects with serious cases. (@ forums) 2009/2/9 Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.de You separate yourself with a private mailing list. Okay, you can discuss about new server bugs in new releases, but then? Someone has to contact Valve to fix the

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Philipp Reddigau
I think that we can gain a little manager team. They can post in forums or mail to valve for bug issues. If we have to post in a forum i would say that 50% of good members will be lost. because they have not the time to post in a realy slow forum @ valve. some countrys, like china have no chance

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Trewartha
I hope they atelast keep HLDS_Announce - I honestly cannot be bothered reading a forum daily to find out if there has been server updates - stupidest idea ever. Zuko wrote: They shutdown another place which they cannot moderate... forum moderators delete posts and ban users that they are not

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Miano, Steven M.
Huge disappointment for me. One of the few mailing lists that I thought was actively worthwhile so far as reading and learning from. The forums are terrible, and not exactly the preferred method for most admins (losing the ability to have rules for the required updates, or updates to the

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Eric-Jan Riemers
@list.valvesoftware.com Onderwerp: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the forums listed below. Windows server discussion should

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Oliver Salzburg
What self-respecting linux server admin would trade in a mailing list for a web forum? This move makes absolutly no sense at all. Burton Johnsey wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Crazy Canucks
- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread bob dolet
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly impossible

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Imre Facchin
09, 2009 1:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Shawn Zipay
] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Per Kristiansen
I hope this is a fake..but if not: Heh..well..now atleast they will have valid reason not to listen anyways :) it's not like they've been falling over themselves answering here lately. As alot of other Game companies that built on the shoulders of voulenteers Valve have finally buckled down and

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Kevin J. Anderson
regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly impossible to view James Gurney wrote: SakeFox wrote: Ok, make a new mailing list then. the software is out

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Ryan Devonshire
-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been proven to be terrible since on any patch day or high traffic times they are nearly impossible to view James

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread michael taylor
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Burton Johnsey sp.tonj...@gmail.com wrote: We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the forums listed below. I recently discovered this list while trying to

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Nephyrin Zey
Valve seems to think that as long as there are always servers they shouldn't waste their time. They don't seem to understand that quality servers and their associated gaming communities pull people into the game and keep them there. How many CSS players are in a clan and regularly participate in

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Rick Payton
-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of michael taylor Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:05 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists On Mon, Feb 9, 2009

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread JäKë T
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists Valve seems to think that as long as there are always servers they shouldn't waste their time. They don't seem to understand that quality servers and their associated gaming

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread 1nsane
: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists and i completely understand that, however there forums have been

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Ryan Burke
I would like to chime in and express my disappointment as well. I've been following this list, like others, since the early CS 1.5 days, through the WON shutdown, through the Steam launch, through 1.6, through Source and now to Orange Box. The funny thing is that I don't even run a game server

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Guy Watkins
] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists } } We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. } } After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of } the } forums listed below. } } Windows server discussion should be conducted here: } http

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Kevin J. Anderson
@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists } } We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th. } } After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of } the } forums listed below. } } Windows server

Re: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

2009-02-09 Thread Nephyrin Zey
Message- } From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- } boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Burton Johnsey } Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:41 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: [hlds_linux] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing

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