Re: [HOT] Validating by Username

[Rory McCann]

Hi!

Yes, JOSM has the funtionality! First download the data for the area you
want. JOSM has a search function[1] by pressing Control-F. "user:" will
find all objects which were last edited by that username (e.g.
"user:rorym" will find all objects last touched by rorym).

The TODO list plugin[2] could be helpful here. Once the objects are
selected, you can add them to do the todo list, and work through them
one by one to verify each one is OK.

The JOSM validator[3] is good to run as well (Shift-V), it can find
common errors.

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Search_function
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/TODO_list
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Validator

Hope that helps

On 02/02/17 02:33, noah ahles wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I started a HOT club at the University of Vermont and we'd like to start
> validating real time (or as close to real time as possible) at mapathons
> to make sure people are editing to the best of their ability. We'd also
> like to set up geomentoring relationships to pair club members with new
> mappers so we can look over their work and message them with
> constructive feedback. Is there a tool within ID Editor or JOSM for us
> to be able to look over edits by username during the validation process?
> 
> Thanks,
> Noah





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Re: [HOT] note to Project Managers: Highway=road

[Rory McCann]

On 22/02/17 23:42, john whelan wrote:
> Currently there are HOT projects that include in the instructions the words
> 
> "If you are unsure of what tag to assign to a road, use the provisional
> highway=road tag."
> 
> Yes but many routing systems ignore this these.  When we mapped with GPS
> traces we used highway=road because you didn't know if it was a motorway
> or a footway with steps and that's why many routing systems ignore them
> and JOSM validation flags them.
> 
> I would suggest if in doubt use highway=unclassified for instructions.
> 
> Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

I think the existing advice is correct. highway=road is supposed to mean
"I'm not sure what the classification is".

Some routers ignore it? Yes that is a problem. At best they should rank
it quite low. Outright *ignoring* the road seems like a bug. However
don't tag for the renderer!

Yes, it's a annoying when JOSM etc flag that as a validation problem.
The solution is more mapping.

A possible source of confusion could be the name "unclassified". In the
UK (where OSM started), "unclassified" is a road classification. Saying
"unclassified" doesn't mean the road is unclassified!



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Re: [HOT] Addresses in Africa

[Rory McCann]

On 31/08/16 13:37, john whelan wrote:
> ​There has been considerable talk about addressing schemes for areas
> that do not have street names etc.  Three words etc.

Y'know you don't have to go as far as Africa to find countries with
address "systems" like that. I give you: Ireland. In rural areas (many)
streets have no names, and many houses have no numbers, using house
names instead. Lowest level administrative areas (townlands) are often
used (but not always accurately) to construct an address.

About 30% of rural addresses are non-unique. i.e. The postman has to
know things from the surname on the letter.

A new postcode system has been released recently, which gives every
letter box a unique & random code. But it'll be years before that's used
a lot.

Alas, Ireland's drink monoculture means Ivan's beer address system
probably wouldn't work. :)

Read more:

 * https://www.autoaddress.ie/products/irish-addressing
 *
http://www.dataireland.ie/News/Pages/Tricky-Irish-Addresses-Why-do-Irish-addresses-pose-so-many-problems




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Re: [HOT] Multilingual names tool for OpenStreetMap

[Rory McCann]

On 17/08/16 14:55, Nicholas Doiron wrote:
> OpenStreetMap is fortunate to have a large, multilingual community. We
> store a "name" tag for local names (sometimes two scripts are used, as
> in Morocco) and we use "name:en" and other tags to store names from
> other languages.
> 
> In many parts of OpenStreetMap, we have places labeled English-first, or
> local placenames without alternate names (eg China).  I hesitate to call
> this a /problem /for OSM/HOT, but it could be an interest for expanding
> OSM's reach and involving partners.
> 
> Today I set up a prototype on http://city-namer.herokuapp.com/ - it uses
> Overpass to pick places with a name but no name:[lang] tag.  States,
> districts, and cities are sorted to appear before neighborhoods and hamlets.
> Currently this doesn't edit anything... it dumps into a database. But if
> you're interested in making this into a crowd-naming project, please
> contact me or glom onto the GitHub https://github.com/Georeactor/city-namer

For those who don't know, Sven Geggus has written a PostgreSQL function
to automatically transliterate non-latin names into latin alphabet, so
that there'll always been a "latin" name to display on a map. This is
visible on the German style. e.g.:


https://www.openstreetmap.de/karte.html?zoom=18=35.62024=51.39527=B000TF

The code has changed around, but I think this is it now

https://github.com/giggls/mapnik-german-l10n



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Re: [HOT] Building Detection using Machine Learning

[Rory McCann]

You've noticed how your algoritm isn't able to get properly rotated
buildings. And this might be an advantage! All buildings being
non-rotated is *obviously* incorrect, so people aren't gonna want to
import them, they'll realise that they have to have a human to
review/correct it.

Perhaps you should load all your "buildings" into MapRoullette or ToFix
and people can hope from one spot to the next, mapping buildings? Your
"buildings" will ensure that some of the harder work is done, and people
can map much faster. It also provides a good measure of how many
buildings are in an area, and hence whether the OSM building mapping is
complete or some is missing.


On 19/12/16 15:17, Philip Hunt wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I attended my first Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) mapping event a few 
> months ago and was interested to see how successful machine learning would be 
> at detecting buildings in satellite images. The results look promising but I 
> wanted to know if it could be useful to the community and if it’s worth 
> pursuing further. I thought I would post a sample of the results and then 
> quickly explain the process and issues.
> 
> 
> Results
> ———
> 
> These are the results of a test I ran on project 2101 (Rongo, Kenya - 
> PMI/USAID) on 1 November 2016. These images show the buildings detected by 
> the algorithm on the first six unstarted tasks from the project. Potential 
> buildings are marked with green rectangles:
> 
> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_4.png
> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_5.png
> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_9.png
> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_12.png
> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_13.png
> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/hot-osm-ml-test-data/2101_14.png
> 
> As you can see the initial results look promising - most of the buildings 
> have been detected and the false positive rate is pretty low.
> 
> 
> Process
> 
> 
> I’ve been using the Viola–Jones machine learning algorithm, which requires 
> training to know what is and isn’t a building. Once the algorithm is trained, 
> it can be used to detect buildings in new images in a few seconds.
> 
> The whole process looks like this:
> 
> - Get the HOT project and task data using the HOT API
> - Get the satellite imagery of the area from OSM
> - Get the nearby existing buildings from the OSM API
> - Find the existing buildings in the satellite imagery and use these to train 
> the algorithm
> - Run through each incomplete task in the HOT project and detect buildings
> - Output the results as OSM XML
> - Load the output into JOSM, validate and upload to OSM
> 
> 
> Issues
> ———
> 
> I loaded the output of the algorithm into JOSM and completed tasks 1 and 2 of 
> project 2101. However it still took a bit of work to make sure the data is 
> good enough for OSM and I think an experienced mapper would have taken 
> roughly the same amount of time starting from scratch.
> 
> The main issue is the algorithm can’t rotate the detected rectangle to fit 
> the building shape (as you can see from the example images above, none of the 
> rectangles are rotated). I’ve tried using methods such as line detection to 
> detect the building and rotate and crop the rectangle around the edges - this 
> worked well some of the time and other times went horribly wrong. 
> 
> The second issue is false positives. While the examples above we’re generally 
> clean, sometimes the algorithm would think a field was a building. Because 
> data uploaded to OSM needs to be accurate it can take some time checking each 
> potential building in JOSM.
> 
> Another potential issue could be training samples. When testing I trained a 
> new algorithm for each project, using local existing building data from OSM 
> as training data. The assumption here is that nearby buildings will look like 
> buildings in the project area and that nearby building data is available and 
> accurate.
> 
> 
> Next Steps
> —
> 
> The Viola–Jones objection detection research paper was first published in 
> 2001 so the algorithm has been around for a while. Machine learning has 
> improved since then and neural networks are showing a lot of promise - using 
> these could increase the reliability and also allow the detected rectangle to 
> be fixed around the edge of the building - meaning a lot less editing in 
> JOSM. I’m also aware of similar projects, but I haven’t found anything that’s 
> able to detect buildings or ready for use yet:
> 
> https://github.com/trailbehind/DeepOSM (find misconfigured roads in OSM)
> https://github.com/patrick-dd/landsat-landstats (predicts population size)
> https://github.com/larsroemheld/OSM-HOT-ConvNet
> 
> 
> I'm not suggesting this could replace volunteers (since algorithms will never 
> be completely accurate), but maybe this could help speed things up or be used 
> to quickly estimate 

Re: [HOT] Inflationary use of the mailinglist

[Rory McCann]

Hi Julian,

Sorry this is happening to you. If your email is set to alert you for 
every email, this would be quite an annoyance!


Some communities use mailing lists as a low-traffic annouce system, but 
others use them as a web forum type thing. OSM usually uses the latter.


As well as tweaking your email client to not alert you for all messages. 
You could use the NNTP/usenet interface to the HOT list provided by 
gmane.org. If you have an email client like Thunderbird, it can also 
function as a usenet reader. Just point it to news.gmane.org and you can 
view this list at gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.hot. You can read and 
send messages, and read all old messages. This could allow you to take 
part in the HOT mailing list, without getting all the emails. This is 
what I use and how I'm sending this message! :)


On 26.03.2017 18:26, Julian Haag wrote:

Hello everyone,

I am interested in information regarding HOT activations, the talk about
real HOT problems and some news regarding HOT, so I joined this list
about a year ago during the earthquake in Nepal. Currently I found
myself deleting nearly 98% of the messages of this list even without
reading it.

It's just crazy getting dozends of emails a day on topics having nearly
no intersection with HOT at all! e.g. "Bounding box not in iD Editor
anymore" or currently "Mapswipe - whats happening with the data?". There
are boards, where, in my optinion, general discussions should take place
but not on a mailinglist. A mailinglist, thats the place where really
urgend stuff should be discussed.

Is there a HOT mailinglist that just focuses on important stuff?

with annoyed greetings

Julian




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Re: [HOT] OSM in historical research

[Rory McCann]

Hi,

I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but Townlands.ie
is a website based off the current state of historic Irish
administrative boundaries in OSM. It's just formatted differently from a
map ;) I have heard that many people working in geneology and the Irish
diaspora find it very useful. Many libraries and regional historical
societies like it.

Have you considered emailing the main OSM list (t...@openstreetmap.org)
or the historic list (histo...@openstreetmap.org) to get more feedback.

Rory

On 21/06/17 09:34, Katie McDonough wrote:

Dear HOT community,

I am writing to see if there are others on the listserv who use OSM (or 
OpenHistoricalMap) to study & teach about the past. For example, I am a 
historian of early modern France, and I use OSM in an undergraduate course on the 
history of mapping from the renaissance to the present.

I’m compiling a resource for other humanities scholars who may be interested in 
using OSM as part of their research workflows or teaching. If you are willing 
to describe how you use OSM, I would be very glad to hear from you. If anyone 
has suggestions for other groups to reach out to, I would be grateful.

Many thanks,
Katherine McDonough
Research Associate in Digital Humanities
Western Sydney University
+61 (0)468 461 257
kmcdono.com

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Re: [HOT] Analysis of when mappers joined OSM

[Rory McCann]

One "simple" way to know when a user started editing is download the
full history file as XML, not PBF, and look for the first changeset made
by a mapper.

The account_created on the user details will tell you when the account
was created, and normally they start editing shortly afterwards, but
there are a tiny amount who only start editing years after creating an
account. e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/34856

On 24/08/17 16:30, Bryan Housel wrote:

Hi Janet,
The OSM API can give details about when a user created their account, 
and how many changesets they have contributed.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Details_of_a_user

While the API will tell you how many changesets a user is up to right 
now, it’s not easy to know how new the user was at the time they made an 
edit.  For this reason, the next version of iD will also include the 
user's `changesets_count` as a tag on each changeset, to make this 
analysis a bit easier.


Thanks,
Bryan



On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:20 AM, Janet Chapman 
> wrote:


Does anyone know how to analyse when mappers in a particular 
project(s) joined OSM?  We’re interested in analysing what proportion 
of mappers on these projects are new to 
OSMhttp://tasks.hotosm.org/?direction=asc=1=Tanzania+Development+Trust_by=priority

Any advice appreciated, thanks.
*Janet Chapman,*
Blog:***http://hiaragirlpower.blogspot.co.uk/and www.crowd2map.org 
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Re: [HOT] Buildings and HOT's reputation in OSM

[Rory McCann]

It seems like there is a need for a specialized "buildings editor". Yes
JOSM building_tools beats iD now, but how about making a new web based
editor that addresses the problems you highlight:

 * Can only enter buildings
 * Uploads (& downloads) frequently. Potlatch used to upload as soon as
you had deselected an object. OSM changesets can be opened and have many
uploads. Why not upload every X minutes?
 * Rather than free form drawing, you can only draw rectangular buildings
 * Don't allow the user over lap buildings (or auto-merge the rectangles
together)

If you know your users are doing one thing, then it's probably easier to
change the software than the users. 

Of course, suggesting things is easier than actually doing them, and I
don't think my JS is good enough to do it.

On 09/12/17 20:59, john whelan wrote:
Recently there has been some discussion of HOT's input into 
OpenStreetMap in the OSMF mailing list.


Perhaps one of the problem areas is mapping that is less than ideal.

Basically HOT mainly maps highways, landuse=residential and buildings.

These shouldn't be difficult to map correctly.

Buildings appear to be the most problematic.

I think we need to think about why we are mapping them.  Is node good 
enough?  There would be less room for mistakes.


If we need outlines and there good reasons why an outline is more 
valuable than a node then we need to define what is acceptable.  Or do 
we even care?  and its the do we even care part that is perceived to be 
the case by some within OSM and that perception is something we should 
care about.


 From a validation point of view does it matter if the building is not 
square?  Is it acceptable to square a building even though we know this 
will introduce an element of approximation or error.


What should be done with a building=yes that covers more than one 
building?  Do we expect the validator to map each building or just 
invalidate the tile?


What should be done when the building mapped is more than 50% larger 
than the image?  Invalidate the tile?


We are still mapping buildings twice.  I suspect some mappers are not 
uploading within two hours.  Getting mappers to upload every 30 minutes 
max would go a long way to reduce this, extending the tile lock to four 
hours would almost certainly eliminate it.  Recently on high priority 
project I've seen in the order of a hundred buildings double mapped.  
They have been done within the last two weeks so it is an ongoing 
problem. There is a new tool that detects these so they aren't the 
problem they once were but someone has to run the tool.


If HOT could support a few more projects that were from the community on 
the ground rather than the "We are the professionals we know what is 
best" which appears to be perceived sometimes from the number of 
projects for the RED Cross or other northern hemisphere charities that 
might also help the reputation and relationship.


So two points here on one message first is can HOT's reputation be 
repaired and I suspect that is longer term problem that will take time 
and a lot of effort rather than a PR job.


Second would someone care to comment on what is acceptable mapping for a 
building and what guidelines can we give to validators?


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Re: [HOT] LGBTQ people at HOT Summit?

[Rory McCann]

S in Africa.
> 
> 
> Community input was requested at all stages of the process as we began 
> meeting more than three months ago. This included open group meetings 
> and a community survey in which over 110 people participated. 
> Unfortunately, this is the first time the issue has been raised and 
> highlights the importance of increasing diversity of all kinds in the 
> HOT and FOSS4G communities and Working Groups.
> 
> 
> We will take the following actions based on your message:
> 
>   *
> 
> Review the code of conduct to make sure it communicates correctly
> (we welcome you and others to help with this and/or join our Working
> Group)
> 
>   *
> 
> Add specific travel guidance to the website on safety and security
> 
>   *
> 
> Make a commitment to ensure this is part of the discussion when
> deciding the location for all of our future Summits, invite others
> to join and help discuss
> 
> 
> Again, we welcome help and participation from all community members in 
> making the event as inclusive as we, as a combined FOSS4G and HOT 
> community, possibly can. The joint vision behind locating the Summit in 
> Africa is indeed inclusivity and opening opportunities for traditionally 
> underrepresented groups. HOT strives for equal opportunities and 
> inclusivity in all our projects and activities. If you’d like to join 
> Summit Working Group, you can do so here: 
> https://groups.google.com/a/hotosm.org/d/forum/summit
> 
> 
> We are also happy to answer questions from any individuals who may not 
> want to message a public list. Please reach out to sum...@hotosm.org 
> <mailto:sum...@hotosm.org>.
> 
> - The HOT Summit Working Group and FOSS4G 2018 Organizing Committee
> 
> *
> 
> 
> 
> On 16 Feb 2018 11:10 am, "Rory McCann"
> <r...@technomancy.org<mailto:r...@technomancy.org>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> So the HOT Summit is in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. But, erm,
> it's illegal
> to be gay in Tanzania[1]. Travel advice from the UK[2] and US[3]
> governments repeats that: "Homosexuality is not tolerated".
> 
> The code of conduct for this conference[4] is (mostly)
> excellent, it
> covers "sexual orientation". But that's impossible in a
> country with
> such laws.
> 
> (IMO) this conference cannot be a safe space for LGBTQ
> people[5]. We
> have the strange situation of HOT saying "This is a safe
> space for LGBTQ
> people, but follow the law which makes your existence
> illegal"[6]. I am
> flabbergasted at how HOT can think this can be a safe space,
> and HOT
> runs the risk of looking like they don't know what a safe
> space is...
> 
> There's nothing wrong (IMO) with a CoC adapted to local
> laws[7]. But
> please be honest. The conference venue is homophobic. HOT
> should delete
> the "sexual orientation" parts from your CoC. SotM Africa
> 2017 in Uganda
> had a similar CoC[8], and similar laws. There is talk about
> (good) CoCs
> being mandatory for events, and if this is what passes as a
> CoC, then
> we've already given up.
> 
> There's an argument about how far to go ("This country's
> anti-discrimination law doesn't go as far as my home
> country! Racist
> country!"), but I think there should be *a* line. Let's talk
> about that.
> "Illegal to be gay or trans[9]" is (IMO) a good line for
> LGBTQ issues.
> 
> It looks like limiting LGBTQ attendance wasn't a deal
> breaker for HOT,
> or that diversity/inclusivity just isn't thought about much,
> which is sad.
> 
> -- 
> Rory
> 
> [1] Technically same-sex sex is illegal, and so is having a
> same-sex
> spouse
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Tanzania<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Tanzania>
> [2]
> 
> https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/tanzania/local-laws-and-customs<https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/tanzania/local-laws-and-customs>
> [3]
> 
> https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-C

[HOT] LGBTQ people at HOT Summit? [WAS: SAVE THE DATE Aug 27-Sep 2: HOT and FOSS4G Together in Tanzania]

[Rory McCann]

Hi,

So the HOT Summit is in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. But, erm, it's illegal
to be gay in Tanzania[1]. Travel advice from the UK[2] and US[3]
governments repeats that: "Homosexuality is not tolerated".

The code of conduct for this conference[4] is (mostly) excellent, it
covers "sexual orientation". But that's impossible in a country with
such laws.

(IMO) this conference cannot be a safe space for LGBTQ people[5]. We
have the strange situation of HOT saying "This is a safe space for LGBTQ
people, but follow the law which makes your existence illegal"[6]. I am
flabbergasted at how HOT can think this can be a safe space, and HOT
runs the risk of looking like they don't know what a safe space is...

There's nothing wrong (IMO) with a CoC adapted to local laws[7]. But
please be honest. The conference venue is homophobic. HOT should delete
the "sexual orientation" parts from your CoC. SotM Africa 2017 in Uganda
had a similar CoC[8], and similar laws. There is talk about (good) CoCs
being mandatory for events, and if this is what passes as a CoC, then
we've already given up.

There's an argument about how far to go ("This country's
anti-discrimination law doesn't go as far as my home country! Racist
country!"), but I think there should be *a* line. Let's talk about that.
"Illegal to be gay or trans[9]" is (IMO) a good line for LGBTQ issues.

It looks like limiting LGBTQ attendance wasn't a deal breaker for HOT,
or that diversity/inclusivity just isn't thought about much, which is sad.

--
Rory

[1] Technically same-sex sex is illegal, and so is having a same-sex
spouse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Tanzania
[2] https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/tanzania/local-laws-and-customs
[3]
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Tanzania.html
[4] http://2018.foss4g.org/code-of-conduct.html
[5] Same-sex sex is illegal in TZ, along with having a same sex spouse.
I haven't see anything on trans laws, but I think we can guess.
[6] https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/964252343318532096
[7] I propose: "If the event covers a region where it's legal to
be gay, then the event cannot be held in a place where it's illegal to
be gay." This makes SotM Africa (or global SotM) in Uganda wrong, but 
SotM Tanzania in Tanzania OK. "SotM East Africa" in Uganda would be OK.

[8]
https://web.archive.org/web/20170710101126/http://sotmafrica.org:80/registration/code-of-conduct/
[9] "illegal to be trans" is often laws against "crossdressing". This is
happening now in Aceh, Indonesia, and the modern Gay Pride parades
sprung from such a law in New York, USA in 1969.

(I've been to Tanzania a few times, and it's a great country, Dar &
Zanzibar are wonderful tourist destinations, and I totally recommend the
area. But LGBTQ folk need to be careful.)


On 14/02/18 01:49, Tyler Radford wrote:

Dear HOT Community,


You are invited to the 2018 HOT Summit at FOSS4G, August 29-31in Dar es 
Salaam, Tanzania!



This year we again had a great selection of potential locations for the 
HOT Summit and were faced with a hard decision as we were very keen to 
have a joint event with both the OpenStreetMap and FOSS4G communities. 
As a first time chance to hold the Summit in a HOT project location, and 
through a wonderful partnership we are pleased to bring the HOT Summit 
to FOSS4G this year. HOT will lead the “Widening Access and Humanitarian 
Mapping” conference track. We welcome you to Tanzania -- home to our 
flagship Ramani Huria and Data Zetu projects.



The Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial (FOSS4G) conference is 
the yearly gathering of the OSGeo community and this year they are 
looking to bring impact stories to their audience. With humanitarian and 
disaster response use of FOSS, especially in regards to geospatial, the 
HOT community brings an amazing showcase to an already impressive 
conference program. We can’t wait to see the collaboration between these 
open communities.



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Deadline

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August 27-28: FOSS4G Pre-Conference Workshops

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August 29-31: FOSS4G and HOT Summit Main Conference

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September 1-2: FOSS4G Code Sprints and Community Events


Stay tuned to http://2018.foss4g.orgfor more information on FOSS4G and 
the HOT Summit.



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Re: [HOT] [Diversity-talk] Diverse conferences need you!

[Rory McCann]

Hi,

An additional way to help out is on the FOSS4G github, where there are 2
issues for the CoC & travel advice, where you can leave comments, and
see the draft documents. Most of my suggestions have been taken on board.

https://github.com/foss4g2018/foss4g2018/issues/65
https://github.com/foss4g2018/foss4g2018/issues/64

> all future events happening in countries with similar local laws to
> Tanzania

Can you please state in what (limited!) circumstances (parts of) the HOT
CoC are optional, or run the risk that CoC opponents using any reason
they want to have an event with a CoC with lots of "opt-outs", claiming
"cultural differences".

My suggestion: "No events where homosexuality is illegal if
homosexuality/etc is legal in one part of the region for this event."
(there might be other cases).

Rory

On 12/04/18 23:41, Rebecca Firth wrote:
> Hi
> 
> The HOT and FOSS4G community have been working hard to develop the 
> conference Code of Conduct for the upcoming event in Tanzania 
> (http://2018.foss4g.org/). The goal is to ensure the conference is as 
> welcoming and safe as it can be, and maintain a commitment to diverse 
> and inclusive conferences. Part of this means hosting conferences in 
> countries where HOT works as an organisation and where there are strong 
> local OSM communities. However, this does raise important concerns about 
> safety and security for attendees. We hope a re-drafted CoC will help 
> all future events happening in countries with similar local laws to 
> Tanzania, to ensure they can protect the interests and security of 
> attendees as best as possible. SOTM Africa, future, SOTMs, etc etc..
> 
> The Summit/FOSS4G Working Groups have a re-drafted policy and would love 
> feedback from an as-diverse-as-possible group. If you're keen to 
> support, please get in touch with Amelia and Rachel in copy, who will 
> send you a copy of the policy and gladly hear your feedback.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rebecca
> 
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Re: [HOT] NB: Organised Editing Guidelines | Re: Final Request: Volunteers Needed for Global Mapathons!

[Rory McCann]

On 28.03.19 02:57, Vao Matua wrote:
I have observed some characteristics about the OSM mapping through HOT 
tasks being done by mapathons, primarily ones done by corporate sponsors.
It appears that often these efforts are not well led, or at least not 
led by individuals that have a good level of OSM experience and skills. 
The results are that very common mistakes and errors are created.
... 
Perhaps HOT should establish a test or a vetting process for potential 
mapathon leaders?


Isn't this why we created the Organized Editing Guidelines in the first 
place? One solution is for mapathon hosts to talk about it before hand, 
and for people will more experience to provide feedback?


We spent a year on the organized editing policy. Why fart around 
ignoring the solution we have chosen. Let's move on. Mapathons can be of 
good quality and good for the community by following the policy. The 
rules are there. Follow them. Map. Organize. Have fun.


Rory


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[HOT] NB: Organised Editing Guidelines | Re: Final Request: Volunteers Needed for Global Mapathons!

[Rory McCann]

The OSM community & Foundation has recently adopted the Organised
Editing Guidelines, to guide events like this. The community wants to
help you make this a successful mapathon.

In emails like this, and in accordance with the OEG, you should link to
the wiki page(s) describing your mapathon.

https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activities

On 26/03/2019 13:33, Jessica Bergmann wrote:

Hi all!

Putting out one last request for any individuals who are currently 
living in or near the following cities who would be available to assist 
for 2-3 hours at a corporate mapathon taking place next week!


*San Francisco *
*Tokyo*
*Hong Kong*
*Zurich*
*Frankfurt*
*Seoul*
*Taipei*
*Princeton (New Jersey)*
*Toronto*

Please email me to express your interest and I can follow up with exact 
details. Again, please only reply if you are currently located in or 
near these cities!


Cheers,

Jessica

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[HOT] Regional highway tag values | Re: Thank you from MSF!

[Rory McCann]

On 07/04/2019 18:59, Kevin McPherson via HOT wrote:
Dear all, I am new to this HOT interface on OSM, but joined last week, 
and interested in road classification in OSM. This is my first posting, 
and first time I have engaged with anyone on OSM, so am still getting up 
to speed.


Welcome to OSM!

With regards to OSM, one issue is that the  tag in OSM is never 
quite the same as the official definition of the country. For example, 
the highway tag:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway

uses "Motorway", "Trunk", "Primary", "Secondary" etc. while a national 
roads agency might use other terminology such as "Main", "District", 
"Local" etc.


That is certainly something that can be confusing at first. Although OSM
tags/keys/values are written in English ("highway"), it's better to not
"read" them and pretend they are just opaque computer codes, which you
'translate' into your own local language, or region specific thing.
Rather than reading highway=trunk, pretend it says uvtujnl=gehax. In the
USA "highway" means something different, so it can be confusing, but if
you just think "What does uvtujnl mean in my country/region?", A British
person translates it as "highway", an American "street", a German
"Straße" etc. Then, rather than seeing "trunk", see "gehax", and ask
what that means in your language/place.

The OSM wiki has a big list of how to translate each highway value into
regional equivalents:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway:International_equivalence

In Ireland, we have highway=trunk for "National Primary",
highway=primary for "National Secondary", highway=secondary "Regional",
highway=tertiary "(low numbered) Local", and highway=unclassified for
the rest.

The local community for each country should decide on such a
"translation", and then use that. Write that in the wiki and talk to
OSMers to tell them. (I wonder if iD's regional specific translations
might be useful here (e.g. to translate "highway=trunk" in en_IE to
"National Primary"... 樂)

I hope that helps.

Rory


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[HOT] Roads, driving & Wiki | Re: Thank you from MSF!

[Rory McCann]

On 05/04/2019 20:10, Ralf Bernhardt wrote:
There are many POIs I would like to see on Openstreetmap too, also 
boundarys and place names.


These can, and are, added to OSM. 


I also noticed a different tagging scheme: Car, Moto and Foot. I
would guess that Roads not passable for a car but by foot and moto
should be highway=path in OSM.


Wikipedia's goal is a "Neutral Point of View", OSM's is "No
Point of View", to only store objective things, to never store
subjective things. "This road is not passable by a car" depends a lot on
the type of car! A 4x4 Land Rover can drive on roads a Porsche sports
car can't. We tag _legal_ restrictions on roads ("Cars are not
legally permitted to drive here"), since everyone agrees on that.

There is a `tracktype` key (
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tracktype ) with 5 values for
how smooth/wellmaintained the road/track is. You can also map the
`surface` and `width` of roads. There are some less popular tags that
might be useful to you like `4wd_only=yes/no`, `sac_scale` or `mtb:scale`.


Is there a reason for that or will you change them later?


OSM is a map made by everyone, including you (if you want).  Don't be
afraid to correct mistakes in OSM, don't be afraid to make OSM better if
you see something that should be improved. It's wiki, open to everyone. 
 Please feel free to change it yourself. 


Rory


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Re: [HOT] OSM Foundation member fees changing

[Rory McCann]

On 03.04.20 23:04, Pete Masters via HOT wrote:
This is different to HOT membership as to be a member for OSMF you had 
to pay £15 (sterling) or apply for an exemption on an individual basis 
(whereas for HOT, you need to be nominated). This fee was regardless of 
whether £15 was a lot of money or not much money wherever you were from. 
The new rules look to reward contribution to the OSM project, not just 
whether you can spare the cash.


The OSMF will also automatically waive the fee if you are from a country 
which cannot send money to the UK (e.g. if you're in Iran)


The list is here: https://join.osmfoundation.org/fee-waiver-program/

If £15 is a lot of money, you can apply for a fee waiver under the 
“financial hardship” scheme.


Both of these programmes have been running successfully for more than a 
year, and are separate from this proposed system


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[HOT] OSMF's BBB server? | Re: Webinar "JOSM for Beginners"

[Rory McCann]

Hi Michael,

It's good to see attempts to spread knowledge & skills. The OSMF has a 
BigBlueButton server ( https://osmvideo.cloud68.co/ ) for use of the 
wider OSM communities. Zoom's privacy issues are well known, and it is 
closed source.


Is there any reason the OSMF's BBB server wouldn't solve your needs?

Rory

On 17/08/2020 10:29, Michael Heißmeier wrote:

Hi everyone,

right in the middle of our 10 year celebrations I would like to remind 
you that a webinar in the JOSM series is due next Saturday at 10:00 UTC. 
This time we will present "JOSM for Beginners" where we will walk you 
through installation, explaining the user interface, editing techniques 
and uploading your mapping. As always, we will share a lot of useful 
hints from our experience and there will be time to answer your questions.


All you need to do is to register at 
https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_Yg4mRcRwSYKcdI7vFI9R6Q


If you have been using iD so far and did not use JOSM because you think 
that it is complicated to use then this is the chance to get a hands-on 
introduction to getting work done with JOSM.


Hope to meet many of you on Saturday!

Michael Heißmeier
/(osm:michael63)
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[HOT] Experiences from the diversity-talk@ list | Re: Mailing List Code of Conduct

[Rory McCann]

Hi all,

When I took over moderating the diversity talk mailing list¹ in February 2018², 
I did a request for comment³, and settled on the same one from Geek Feminism⁴, 
you can see it 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/MailingList/CodeOfConduct . The 
list is quite low traffic, and since then there hasn't been any issues or 
reports.

You'll see references to the "Etiquette Guidelines", which is a long existing, 
and "CoC" type thing for OSM mailing lists. But it's rubbish, with rubbish 
rules. "Being sexist is OK, but calling out sexism isn't OK" and bad rules like 
that. 

As I get older, I've become more unsatisfied with regular email mailing lists 
like this. Among many features they lack, is the ability to remove messages, 
which is important for moderation. But that can't be changed unless we go back 
to Usenet/NNTP or something.

I don't believe OSMF or OSMF Board approval is needed for the moderators of 
this list to adopt new moderation rules (e.g. a CoC). Remember, the OSMF 
supports, but does not control, the OSM project, of which HOT is a part. How a 
list is moderated is a decision for those mailing list admins, moderators and 
users.

Hope that helps,

Rory

[1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/diversity-talk
[2] 
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[3] 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/diversity-talk/2018-February/000283.html
[4] 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/diversity-talk/2018-March/000306.html

On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, at 4:43 PM, Can Unen wrote:
> Hello everybody, I'm writing to carry a conversation in HOTOSM 
> membership lists to here, hoping to kick-off a discussion and maybe 
> reach a consensus. 
> 
> A couple of days ago Mikel had asked about the governing code of 
> conduct for this mailing list, and the initial thought was to assume 
> the HOT CoC  should be it. But 
> the thing is, this list is operated and maintained by OSMF, and the 
> Community CoC Draft 
>  
> and OSMF Communication Guidelines 
>  
> seem to cover the mailing list as well, but they seem to be outdated, 
> and unmaintained for some time. 
> 
> Do you think a CoC need to be adopted in the mailing list, and how? 
> 
> In such case, would a consensus in the list be sufficient for this, or 
> should there be a decision from the OSMF board? 
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance for the feedback. 
> 
> Best
> 
> Can
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