Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (2 of 2) Sugar Labs donation

2016-06-04 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 4 June 2016 at 07:48, Adam Holt wrote: > As this is a very thoughtful proposal, I contacted SFConservancy's general > counsel to verify it is legal given 501(c)3 non-profit laws can be strict, > and he emphasized 2 things: > > (1) no tangible benefits may be offered in

[IAEP] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-04 Thread Dave Crossland
Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive. Arrangements will be made to enable on-line contributions by PayPal, debit or credit card or other means. Once the means to make contributions is in place, the Financial Manager will initiate and lead the drive. The Sugar Labs web site will show progress

Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 10:31, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> Please draft a vision statement you would be happy with. > > [No] If you don't draft something, you wi

Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 10:40, Sean DALY wrote: > Perhaps I should try to put together a decision tree? That sounds great! I'm curious to see it :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I understood that the one-liner statement is a 'mission statement,' and the 'vision statement' is the longer text that expresses the details implied by the mission, the high level goals, and more specific values. The article you mention,

Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sean Please draft a vision statement you would be happy with. Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 08:42, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > On 3 June 2016 at 07:30, Karen Sandler <ka...@gnome.org> wrote: >>> Can Conservancy accept written approval from SLOBs that any expense >>> under $200 is authorized? >> >> >> I'll

Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 10:40, Sean DALY wrote: > I can rework a message (perhaps any message) until I am happy with it Please edit https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016 until you are happy with it :D > What I can't do is invent the direction SL should take. But we

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 16

2016-06-04 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 4 June 2016 at 03:35, Tony Anderson wrote: > This discussion of procedures misses the point. Board meetings are not for > the purpose of voting yea/nea on motions. > What do you think the purposes of the board meetings are, then? > A majority of the Board members

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 22 May 2016 at 00:34, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 15/05/16 a las 10:04, Sebastian Silva escribió: > > > On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 11:55 PM, Adam Holt > wrote: > > > > In any case, with about 4 months having

Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 14:55, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > On 3 June 2016 at 00:46, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> wrote: > >> I propose to adopt the following statement as the vision statement: >> > > Was this a motion to be voted on? Oh I see, y

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 12:24, Walter Bender wrote: > > If the primary role of the FM is to foster more communication, then +1. But > it has > not been presented in that light. I think the reporting requirements are a way of fostering more communication :)

Re: [IAEP] Motion to adopt the 2016 vision for Sugar Labs

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 00:46, Laura Vargas wrote: > I propose to adopt the following statement as the vision statement: > Was this a motion to be voted on? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 May 2016 at 07:59, Walter Bender wrote: > Motion: to reimburse Edgar Quispe for expenses incurred representing Sugar > Labs at the Traducción e interpretación en las lenguas originarias del Perú > meeting in Lima. The cost is $168.88. Did this motion pass? I can't

Re: [IAEP] Planned Sunjammer Reboot

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Thanks Sam! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Motion to update current SL vision statement

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Thank you for posting this motion, Laura! :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

[IAEP] Motion: New monthly SLOB meeting procedure

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Motion: to agree the following procedure for all future monthly SLOB meetings: the chair will confirm the meeting meets quorum; the chair will make any announcements submitted to them before the meeting; the chair will announce the first motion pending a vote on that day; each present SLOB member

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 99, Issue 16

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 00:14, Tony Anderson wrote: > Please compare the current version with the original proposed by Lionel > Laske or yours before the goals were separated from the Vision or the > one proposed by Laura. Do you think that there is wide-spread agreement on >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 04:26, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am all for raising fund

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-04 Thread Dave Crossland
On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender wrote: > I am all for raising funds but we need to articulate the reason why we > need them. > To pay for labour to achieve goals, such as the existing translations and finance manager roles and perhaps others in the future; to

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 10:12, Sameer Verma wrote: > The strategic plan for Sugarlabs, which should include Vision, Mission, > Goals, Objectives and Tasks can not only act as a roadmap (time frame 3 to > 5 years) but also then justify request for funds for said Tasks. The funds > can

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 June 2016 at 07:33, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> On 4 June 2016 at 15:25, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I am all for raising fund

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)

2016-06-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 June 2016 at 07:11, samson goddy wrote: > Nice one mattew, yeah we already proposed $100/Month for ads. That's $100 for ads on top of the $120,000/year of Google AdWords we will get to spend thanks to http://www.google.com/grants/ However, the terms of the AdWords

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 June 2016 at 10:37, Laura Vargas wrote: > > First, please let me clarify that the event I'm proposing would take please > in Bolivia YES! Bolivia!! Sorry about that 'think-o' :) I meant to write Bolivia!! XD > in anticipation to the III Cumbre de Comunicación de las

Re: [IAEP] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
! Samson Goddy, with editing assistance by Dave Crossland ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
rtant updates/news and pending > decisions. > > I propose to have the meeting every Monday Morning. > > Will this work for you two? > > Regards and Blessings > > > > 2016-06-07 22:20 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com>: >> >> On 6 June 2016

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 12:34, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > Where are the strategic plans for previous years that include Vision, > Mission, Goals, Objectives and Tasks? :) I am keen to see these :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Educa

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 June 2016 at 08:30, Sean DALY wrote: > sorry, June 14th is a Tuesday... can't do it the 13th. Starting time between > 9:30PM and 11PM (UTC+2) OK for me that day Will 11PM UTC+2 on June 14th work for you?

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
-- Forwarded message -- From: Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> Date: 11 May 2016 at 13:35 Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss To: Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> Cc: Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com>, iaep

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I went over Caryl's google doc again after re-reading the below, and I must say that I am no longer surprised by Adam's comments at the SLOB meeting on Friday; it seems that these clearly expressed points were not addressed in the text that Caryl submitted. Adam, please review the Google Doc

[IAEP] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Google's non-profit sign up process is rather unclear, I did my best :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: 7 June 2016 at 16:10 Subject: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent To: d.crossl...@gmail.com Hello, This email is

Re: [IAEP] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Samson On 7 June 2016 at 13:39, samson goddy <samsongo...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I was suppose to draft just the youtube proposal This was the discussion that led to this document: On 2 June 2016 at 18:28, samson goddy <samsongo...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 2 June 2016 at 23:

Re: [IAEP] Go Social via Social Media (Proposal/Motion)

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 June 2016 at 16:50, samson goddy wrote: > Sure I am going to use your help on that. Let me know your G+ profiles and I'll add you to the YouTube Channel that I've set up: https://www.youtube.com/c/SugarlabsOrg-EN ___ IAEP

[IAEP] Libre Learning Lab: Call For Papers (Oct 7-10 @ MIT)

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi http://librelearnlab.org/about has opened its call for papers: http://librelearnlab.org/call-proposals Stefania Druga will keynote - http://librelearnlab.org/keynote-speakers -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-06-08 Thread Dave Crossland
Do you have any more specific objections? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOB] Motion (1 of 2) GSoC Stipends

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 4 June 2016 at 08:08, Adam Holt wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: >> >> I second the motion and approve it. > > > I hope we all work together to find a way to compromise, but in any case my > opinion is already well-known, as

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SL member list/joining criterion

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 June 2016 at 05:23, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > Where can I read more about the proposal to let only paying members vote? It will be in an email from me to the IAEP list; however, I ended up not proposing this formally, and instead posting the following 3 formal

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 June 2016 at 06:08, Sean DALY wrote: > I think you mean Monday June 14th, not tomorrow. > What time on June 14th will work for you? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 June 2016 at 06:04, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:13 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >>> I developed the Sugar on a Stick strategy in 2009 >> >> Where can I read this? > > The Marketing mailing list, 2009

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 June 2016 at 10:15, José Miguel García wrote: > On 5 June 2016 at 16:30, Sean DALY wrote: >> >> We need to do a phone call or face-to-face of some type. > > Llamadas face-to-face son imposibles para quienes usamos traductores para la >

[IAEP] Motion: to consider email votes on motions only valid if they are sent to both the SLOBs and IAEP mailing lists.

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Motion: to consider email votes on motions only valid if they are sent to both the SLOBs and IAEP mailing lists. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 June 2016 at 23:26, Laura Vargas wrote: > I created a public pad for the Committee at https://titanpad.com/SLFC I have updated this, please check it ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 6 June 2016 at 08:24, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Actually we have a number of people among the SugarLabs membership with > experience in successful fund raising through grants. I am one of them. So am I :) I am perfectly willing to continue adding potential funding

[IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qty-172-OLPC-One-Laptop-Per-Child-XO-1-w-7-5-TFT-256MB-RAM-1024KB-ROM-/262478690514 I propose that Sugar Labs buy these, image them with the 0.110 release, and sale them to raise funds; individual units regularly clear $100 each, so this will raise around $13,000 --

Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 June 2016 at 14:28, Laura Vargas wrote: > Shall we start today or next Friday? Next week will be tricky for me as I'll be at a conference, but might be possible Google Hangouts On Air allows for public archive of the calls, which is why I prefer it although it

Re: [IAEP] Suggestions

2016-06-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 June 2016 at 11:05, samson goddy wrote: > i really want to make this madatory to all members in SL Nothing is mandatory for volunteers :) While I agree that asking members to do this will be good, I would like to complete the wiki clean up. Would you be willing to

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: New monthly SLOB meeting procedure

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Similar to the way that branching was 'expensive' and slow in old version control systems, and newer ones made it fast and cheap; and similar to the way that running code was 'expensive' and slow with compiled languages, and newer dynamic/scripting languages made it fast and cheap; I think that

[IAEP] Motion: to vote on each motion proposed by a member

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Motion: to vote on each motion proposed by a member, dropping the current practice of requiring a seconding before moving to a vote. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] minutes from 3 June 2016 oversight board meeting

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 3 June 2016 at 16:19, Walter Bender wrote: > > I am certain to yet again be accused of making an ad hominem attack, but I > have to say that I was extremely disappointed in the lack of preparedness > for this meeting. Several community members had been working on

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to vote on each motion proposed by a member

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 17:04, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> Motion: to vote on each motion proposed by a member, dropping the current >> practice of requiring a sec

Re: [IAEP] Personal comments on the Sugar 2016 Vision proposal

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Caryl and Sam Reading the proposed Vision statement[*] we seem to be confusing a Vision > Statement (which tends to be short & high level) with a detailed list of > goals that Sugar Labs should try to accomplish this year. > I moved the goals to their own page to clarify what is goals and

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 2 June 2016 at 11:27, Walter Bender wrote: > The motion as drafted in the PDF above does not require Bernie to speak >> with Person X to ask permission to buy things under $Y; it does mean that >> Person X _could_ disapprove the spending, but I don't think we should

Re: [IAEP] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 2 June 2016 at 11:59, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > I think most motions are dealt with at SLOB meetings. That is why there is > such a "log jam." Often motions are made more or less "off the cuff" and > need a lot of revision before they can be voted on. But meeting time is

[IAEP] Motion: The value of $Y in the Finance Manager Guidelines should be $200

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Motion: The value of $Y in the Finance Manager Guidelines should be $200 -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: New monthly SLOB meeting procedure

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 17:18, Walter Bender wrote: > I'll send the pending motions by email this weekend and see whether or not > my colleagues respond > Please CC the IEAP list. After the meeting today I went over my email for all emails I received since the monthly May

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] another motion (Quispe trip to Translation Summit)

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 14:38, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> On 12 May 2016 at 07:59, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Motion: to reimburse Edgar Quispe for

Re: [IAEP] Sugar/OLPC Relations

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 3 June 2016 at 21:10, Samuel Greenfeld <sam...@greenfeld.org> wrote: > (Intentionally top-posted) > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:00 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> >>>- A definite end-of-life date needs to put on XO-1 support. &g

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to vote on each motion proposed by a member

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 17:10, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> >> On 3 June 2016 at 17:04, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On F

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: New monthly SLOB meeting procedure

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 17:18, Walter Bender wrote: > Nice analogy. > I remembered this evening where I heard this; its one of the "Agile" software development maxims :) http://martinfowler.com/bliki/FrequencyReducesDifficulty.html http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/dalio

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: New monthly SLOB meeting procedure

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 16:24, Walter Bender wrote: > Unless someone seconds the motion, I cannot call for a vote :P I have made a second motion to make explicit my proposal to discard seconding. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 2 June 2016 at 14:45, Karen Sandler wrote: > Conservancy just needs written approval by SLOBs so we can document that the > expense is authorized. This can be done in a lump fashion, as Walter > mentions we did for particular Turtle Art days. For example, when we hire >

Re: [IAEP] Sugar/OLPC Relations

2016-06-04 Thread Dave Crossland
On 4 June 2016 at 09:35, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > when I was discussing this with Peter a while back Peter who? :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF June meeting Saturday + happy hour

2016-06-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 June 2016 at 10:23, Aaron D Borden wrote: > Happy hour: A handful of us will be meeting around 7pm Saturday evening > at Thirsty Bear[1] in San Francisco, 661 Howard St @ 3rd St. Look for > the XOs. We hope you can join us! > > [1] http://thirstybear.com/ I'm upstairs :)

Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF June meeting Saturday + happy hour

2016-06-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 June 2016 at 10:23, Aaron D Borden wrote: > Happy hour: A handful of us will be meeting around 7pm Saturday evening > at Thirsty Bear[1] in San Francisco, 661 Howard St @ 3rd St. Look for > the XOs. We hope you can join us! > > [1] http://thirstybear.com/ Thanks again for

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 13:52, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > I think if you tell the sponsor you want a stash to sell them, they'll be > more than happy to keep them to sell for themselves. I doubt it - due to the labour costs you describe below :) > What Walter and I are getting

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 11:54, Sean DALY wrote: > What duplication? An island fishing community with a single one-room > school is quite a different place from an American classroom I think there's probably more education going on in the former, but what do you see as the

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 04:19, Sam Parkinson wrote: > $100 seems steep for an XO1. We could also offer a 100% buy-back scheme to get them back if they aren't used regularly, and various discounts up to 100% for developers who want to pay $0 but are actively contributing. >

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 09:16, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> > That color combination has been very widely copied, even today. >> >> I think the amount of cop

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-14 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 05:14, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 6:21 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> The green case is probably the most important thing, I think, because >> of that brand equity > > The green an

[IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-14 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi There will be a Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in about 6 hours via Google Hangouts: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c3qn7hksl71offj7jitkjb81aa4 -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 07:05, Walter Bender wrote: > Google just donated 8000 chromebooks to the X-Prize. Maybe we could try to > go that route? Well, are we supporting XO-1s in the next 3 releases or not? If we are, I think people get EXCITED about 'the little green $100

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
nda; but buying and selling something to create surplus to reinvest into the project is part of the agenda (or ought to be, if it is to be an effective project.) On 13 June 2016 at 04:20, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Dave Crossland <

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-14 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi After the call we are not really closer to concluding the revision of https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016 or https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mission_proposal_2016 or https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2016_Goals But, for me, the call was very interesting for me to hear Walter, Sam,

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 15 June 2016 at 11:02, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > We're "on the road" for a few days so I'm missing all the "fun." I hope > some of the key people like Adam, Tony, Sameer, and Lionel are being > included. They all have great global perspectives and a realistic maturity >

Re: [IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
I plan to write up my results in a formal paper once we get the > data from the pilot concluding in June. > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Sora >> >> I'm curious about your presentation that is coming up in a cou

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 13 June 2016 at 22:06, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > > I do not believe we would get significant new traction by trying to sell > XO-1s. Please enumerate why you think this. Would XO-4s be any better? > If we truly are going to force end of support in 2020, we should

Re: [IAEP] A Better Idea...

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 10:18, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > "Nickel and dimeing" members doesn't seem to be a viable option For me, neither does making up committees and talking about dedicated volunteers that do not exist :) We are so small that we do not need any committees for

[IAEP] Why do you contribute to Sugar?

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
In thread "A Better Idea..." on 5 June 2016 at 16:41, Sean DALY < sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > Perhaps trying to thrash out texts is not the best approach - maybe we > should start with why we the volunteers are convinced about Sugar, and > think about distilling our Vision from that. > I like

Re: [IAEP] Translation Community Manager report

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 17:20, Chris Leonard wrote: > Most of the work I've done is not captured by this particular issue > tracker and I see no reason to do double-entry book-keeping in > multiple task trackers, so I would not look this this particular > github issue link as

Re: [IAEP] Sugar/OLPC Relations

2016-06-04 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 22:42, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > My personal answer (at least in past private discussions) has been to end > support sometime in 2020. > Thanks for the thoughtful explanation of the 2020 date :) I think 1/1/2020 is good. How can we find out how many XO-1

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 09:48, Walter Bender wrote: > Dave - Walter means how we articulate to potential donors, i.e. the >> compelling story I have mentioned. It's a marketing problem and rushing >> through a motion is not the solution - we need to be clear what our vision >>

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 22:26, Laura Vargas wrote: > +1 for a Global Sugar Summit to build our strategic plan. > > If we can't make it to MIT in October there is another interesting option > for November 2016, as in Bolivia will take place the "III Cumbre > Continental de

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 16:30, Sean DALY wrote: > We need to do a phone call or face-to-face of some type. I propose Monday at 7pm EST https://plus.google.com/events/c3qn7hksl71offj7jitkjb81aa4

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motion: to undertake a fund raising drive.

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 June 2016 at 16:30, Sean DALY wrote: > I developed the Sugar on a Stick strategy in 2009 Where can I read this? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 07:30, Karen Sandler wrote: >> Can Conservancy accept written approval from SLOBs that any expense >> under $200 is authorized? > > > I'll check with Tony Sebro, but I think we could do any expense under $200 > confirmed by some_name to be forwarding the mission

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 3 June 2016 at 07:54, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:13 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> On 2 June 2016 at 11:27, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Or is the intention to *a

[IAEP] Cheap screens

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Today I had to go to a shopping mall in Denver, Colorado, and I noticed that every item in the store had a little LCD screen attached; very low res, but surely very cheap to have 1,000s of them in every store. https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:2016-05-30_lcd1.jpg

Re: [IAEP] Cheap screens

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 2 June 2016 at 00:35, Sam Parkinson <sam.parkins...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > > Hi > > Today I had to go to a shopping mall in Denver, Colorado, and I noticed > that every item in the store

Re: [IAEP] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
6 at 07:51, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Many thanks to those of you (especially Dave Crossland) who have helped > refine these two motions so that they are relatively simple and easy to use > (See attached for final versions). It is my hope that

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 2 June 2016 at 10:17, Walter Bender wrote: > I guess I don't really understand what you mean by functional vs > divisional in the case of SL. > Its about accounting more than anything else; in a divisional org, each division has its own "Profits and Losses"

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions A & B for Tomorrow

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Crossland
On 2 June 2016 at 09:32, Walter Bender wrote: > Specifically, I asked for evidence that there was a pressing need for > unilateral approval of small expenditures and if so, why the existing > scheme of pushing that responsibility to the teams as we currently do with >

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Vision Discussion in 6 hours

2016-06-15 Thread Dave Crossland
On 14 June 2016 at 21:57, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > Should we support the XO-1? > > No: > > The Browse activity is fundementally broken: We can't use old browsers > (webkit v1) on modern websites, and that hardware isn't powerful enough for > new browsers

Re: [IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi >> >> Is anyone involved in Sugar Labs going to >> https://conference.iste.org/2016/ ? >> >> Has anyone gone from SL attended previous years? &g

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 17:16, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> what do you see as the difference in terms of sugar feedback? > > Students not using their native language, teache

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jun 22, 2016 12:21 PM, "Adam Holt" <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: >> >> On 8 June 2016 at 06:32, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I'm confused, I thought Adam w

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jun 22, 2016 11:47 AM, "Dave Crossland" <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > On 8 June 2016 at 06:32, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm confused, I thought Adam was going to liaise with SFC on that? > > > > We can't take over their account. > &

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] A Better Idea...

2016-06-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21 June 2016 at 01:28, Tony Anderson wrote: > You still confuse me. Someone who is not on the Board cannot submit a motion > (email or otherwise) This is simply, factually, false. In http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep%40lists.sugarlabs.org/msg16403.html Walter notes that

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 22 June 2016 at 10:33, Walter Bender wrote: > The problem at the time was that the Sugar experience on RPi was pretty > terrible. I suspect it is pretty decent on the newer models. Do we know? Very decent! :) Tony's remark was about the "Pi Zero" "$5" model. On the

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Google for Nonprofits Affiliation Request Sent

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 June 2016 at 06:32, Sean DALY wrote: > I'm confused, I thought Adam was going to liaise with SFC on that? > > We can't take over their account. Its not about taking over the account, its about getting additional admin access in order to set up Sugar Labs's adwords

[IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-22 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jun 21, 2016 10:41 AM, "Walter Bender" wrote: > > soliciting a small donation of hardware from Google as a reference platform. Who do we know at google who could help with that? Despite google fonts being a client, I don't know anyone there who could help with this

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