And Phil will no doubt appreciate the free plug.
His disclaimers generally make the best reading ...
Shane ...
- Original Message -
Anyone want to discuss LSPR, MIPS, RMF and SMF ? I found a free mips msu
chart at :
http://www.isham-research.co.uk/mips_z990.html
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 06:09:20 -0400, Paul Hanrahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Shane,
Walker wants me to pay for a chart. Gartner wants me to pay. If Phil made
the charts available then I thank him. My boss didn't seem to think I had a
need to know even though I was doing monthly MIPS reports so
It appears to be 1:1 with each pthread being an MVS TCB.
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/BPXZB151/2.13
2
quote
MVS tasks and threads
Each thread that is created with pthread_create runs as an MVS subtask
of the initial pthread-creating task (IPT). The IPT is the task
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 16:30:35 -0500, Jeffrey Deaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now maybe FDR can enable it as well;-)
Ask, and you shall receive... just got an announcement from Innovation on
their forthcoming encryption software.
Find it here... http://www.innovationdp.com/products/fdrcrypt/
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 05/31/2005
at 05:36 PM, Chiam, Susan Mee-Shia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
We have a request to look into utilising 8-chars userids. First
reaction from the team was 'No', but we have to put forward our
arguments. So we need to put up a list of 'pros' and 'cons' on this
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/02/2005
at 12:49 PM, Low, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
My boss asked me about this the other day. We have Top Secret yet we
have been maintaining UADS for all our userids. Is this unnecessary?
There is no technical reason to have anything but emergency user ids
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
06/01/2005
at 11:18 AM, Craig Kittendorf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
In the Assembler Services Guide concerning the Internal Reader, the
/*EOF statement causes the jobstream to be immediately sent to JES2
input services.
That's certainly the case if you're using BSAM or
We still use UADS. All new userids being set up in the last 5 or so years
go into RACF, but we have never converted all of the old ids from uads.
That leaves me as the only person at our shop who understands uads, and I
can't remember as well. (I do know where to look though).
In our case, I
Hi,
Registration is open for the next NCACMG Seminar which will be our Storage
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You can pre-register on-line NOW for only $20 www.ncacmg.org/register.htm
The National Capitol Area Computer Measurement Group will have it's next
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Make this specifically run time libraries for X11 and Curses in ASCII mode.
Hasn't that already been done?
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1D341/6.0?SHELF=
F1A1BK51DT=20050121145751
Andrew McIntyre - Senior
With z/OS 1.5, Rexx now has the address TSO environment, which starts
a captive TSO TMP address space (with no display).
The TSO host command environment has been in REXX for years and years. It's
documented as far back as OS/390 V2R4 and probably further.
Unless you are talking about
Dave Cartwright says
Glasshouse Systems' chart is also free;
http://www.glasshousesystems.com/GH_2H2004_zSeries.pdf
There are plenty of MIPS charts floating around the ozone
both free and fee based. Cheryl Watson charges for access to
her newsletter and the fruits of her research. That
In a recent note, andrew mcintyre said:
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:03:56 -0400
With z/OS 1.5, Rexx now has the address TSO environment, which starts
a captive TSO TMP address space (with no display).
The TSO host command environment has been in REXX for years and years. It's
Where does that say ASCII?
It says it here:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1D341/6.1.7?SHEL
F=F1A1BK51DT=20050121145751
Where does that say Curses and ASCII?
It doesn't. However, there are many open source versions of Curses for X11.
For a fairly decent description, try looking at:
http://lse.sourceforge.net/numa/faq/
Chris Blaicher
-Original Message-
From: Eric Bielefeld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Performance and Capacity Planning
Chris,
Hi
Can any one tell me what the command to clear the SMF 'SYS1.MAN' datasets is.
I checked the commands manual and can't seem to get the right commands.
All my SMF SYS1.MAN datasets are full.
Thanks.
-
Discover Yahoo!
Use Yahoo! to plan
Eric Bielefeld wrote:
... The fact the IBM, when
announcing new hardware, usually prints MIPS in their charts says that it
is still a valid number.
Which charts? A web URL would be helpful.
I'm not saying it is best, or that there isn't
problems with MIPS, but the MIPS numbers still make
...
MSU values are reported by the hardware. MIPS values aren't. That single
difference makes MIPS inherently less useful than MSU
...
Since IBM changed the billing algorithms for MSU, that makes MIPS les useful
than a useless number for MSU.
Just because the hardware reports it doesn't make
In a recent note, andrew mcintyre said:
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:42:02 -0400
Note the revision bars. Compare to edition for z/OS 1.3, or in
I had seen that in the USS manuals but outside of USS, does it have any use?
Why does that matter?
The topic of the thread is TSO
What about the (unlikely) case where someone writes a VB data set to
DASD and uses the wrong data length? Or would SAM catch the error
before you saw it?
With SAM I don't believe a bad length is possible. QSAM contructs the
blocks from the records provided and controls the BDW and the write
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
...
MSU values are reported by the hardware. MIPS values aren't. That single
difference makes MIPS inherently less useful than MSU
...
Since IBM changed the billing algorithms for MSU, that makes MIPS les useful
than a useless number for MSU.
Not useless at all!
Comments interspersed.
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:04:51 -0700, Edward E. Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eric Bielefeld wrote:
... The fact the IBM, when
announcing new hardware, usually prints MIPS in their charts says that it
is still a valid number.
Which charts? A web URL would be helpful.
Eric said;
I also qualified the use of MIPS in my original comment by saying that
comparisons within a line of computers, such as z/890 z/990.
Comparing a 1 processor z/990 to a 30 processor z/990 should give
a good comparison if you are using MIPS. Obviously, your particular
workload may
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 23:04:03 -0400, William McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It appears that a NETID, namely IBMIN is being called
from a program.
Are there any ideas on how to track this user?
We suspect it might be used within another program product - Connect
Direct.
...
Any program that
Does anyone know or heard, if BTAM will run on ZOS 1.7? Eventually BTAM was
supposed to stop working , but I know that it is running on ZOS 1.6.
Lisa Trippanera
Johnson Johnson
Networking Computing Services
Tel: (908) 685-3496
Fax: (908) 685-1860
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 23:04:03 -0400, William McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It appears that a NETID, namely IBMIN is being called
from a program.
Are there any ideas on how to track this user?
...
Sorry. Sent my reply too soon.
You don't say what symptoms you've got so it's tough to make
On 3 Jun 2005 09:45:31 -0700,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blaicher, Chris) wrote:
For a fairly decent description, try looking at:
http://lse.sourceforge.net/numa/faq/
That was a very helpful link; thanks for posting it! I've never dived this
deeply into hardware architecture; it's fascinating.
The
Hi All. I'm trying to save the compiled 'c' code to a loadlib and I'm getting
the following error in my jcl during the bind process:
IEW2606S 4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES PROGRAM MANAGEMENT 3 FEATURES AND CANNOT BE
SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT.
Would anyone no what is going on? This is the fisrt
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pelletier
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: IEW2606S Doing C Programming
Hi All. I'm trying to save the compiled 'c' code to a loadlib
and
Hi All. I'm trying to save the compiled 'c' code to a loadlib and I'm
getting the following error in my jcl during the bind process: IEW2606S
4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES PROGRAM MANAGEMENT 3 FEATURES AND CANNOT BE
SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT.
Your library needs to be a PDSE.
Bob Shannon
News on a theme near and dear to our hearts...
http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/mainframes/story/0,10801,102109,00.html
.
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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Thanks for the quick response John. We don't use PDSE's either. Should be fun.
Have a good weekend all.
-Original Message-
From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IEW2606S Doing C Programming
-Original
Hi,
Does anyone know if the output from a D SMS,VOL(xx) command in CBR1180I
is NOT supposed to accurately reflect the status of a volume in the IBM VTS
cache?
I was trying to determine this (from MVS) and some volumes do display the
additional status line Volume is cache resident. I have
I was going to gently suggest to Bob that he RTFM, but I checked the 1.6
FM myself and find that the message description doesn't help much.
*IEW2606S* *MODULE* *INCORPORATES* feature_level *FEATURES* *AND* *CANNOT*
*BE* *SAVED* *IN*
format_level *FORMAT.*
*Explanation:* An attempt
Howard Brazee wrote:
On 3-Jun-2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward E. Jaffe) wrote:
My point was simply that no similar capability exists for MIPS, making
MIPS inherently less useful than MSU -- all other things being equal.
The validity of that statement should be obvious. It's hardly
Thanks Bruce and everyone. Really appreciate it again.
Bob
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IEW2606S Doing C Programming
I was going to gently suggest to Bob that he RTFM, but I
I think it means you must save into a PDSE as a program
object, instead of a PDS as a load module.
Anyone know for sure?
-Original Message-
From: Robert Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 6/3/2005 1:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: IEW2606S Doing C Programming
Bob,
The *reason* that your C compile may be using PM3 features may be due to
the compiler options that are set for your installation and/or compile PROC.
Use of options like GOFF and others cause the compiler to output object
code that can only be bound into a program object. Other options I
In a message dated 6/3/2005 3:00:57 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
News on a theme near and dear to our hearts...
Next thing you know they'll be giving discounts to .edu's? 'Fraid
IBM reps are about as welcome as military recruiters.
...
That makes MSU *vastly* superior for the purpose described.
...
How can something meaningless be superior to other meaningless measures?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have some volumes (Shark logical 3390) with VTOC Indexes that are full, or
very close to it.
If possible, I would like to expand the indexes without taking the volumes
offline or making them
unavailable. The problem is that the index, the VTOC, and the VVDS are all
adjacent (in that order,
There are also some binder options: COMPAT, CASE=MIXED, LONGNAME or DLL
which can force the use of program objects.
Bill
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:34:27 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob,
The *reason* that your C compile may be using PM3 features may be due to
the compiler
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Simpson
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Advice on expanding VTOC index
I have some volumes (Shark logical 3390) with VTOC Indexes
that are
I wouldn't necessarily say they are meaningless. Especially when vendors
like CA charge by the mip.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 7:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: MIPs
OK, it's time to speak up on behalf of us mossback Luddites who are still
mired in UADS. The reasons for not converting to modern methods may be
BUSINESS rather than technology oriented. I don't doubt that any number of
mechanisms exist to turn a particular SYS1.UADS into (say) RACF TSO
segments.
Hi,
I've found that talking to IBM requires MSU's but billing back and cost
centering requires MIPS. Thanks for your discussion. Your experiences
confirm my own which makes me feel comfortable about what I've learned.
Paul Hanrahan
Ed,
Did you read the article in Computer World about the young man who got a job
at Timken Steel after getting a degree in Akron that included IBM sponsored
assembler classes ?
Timken has some old REXX, Assembler and VM stuff if I remember correctly.
Paul Hanrahan
-Original Message-
Both Timken Steel and Malone College are in Canton, OH which is in the county
south of the one containing Akron.
Bob
Paul Hanrahan wrote:
Did you read the article in Computer World about the young man who got a job
at Timken Steel after getting a degree in Akron that included IBM sponsored
Customers prefer software that keeps it's nose out of make/model/CPU.
Customers prefer software that doesn't require a zap or execution of some
rare breed of
vendor utility to update license load modules. Customers prefer to keep
track of TCs and
the software inventory and deal with license
Knutson, Sam wrote:
Customers prefer software that keeps it's nose out of make/model/CPU.
Customers prefer software that doesn't require a zap or execution of some
rare breed of
vendor utility to update license load modules. Customers prefer to keep
track of TCs and
the software inventory
Yep, after two hours of searching I finally found the proc which was used about
a year ago.
Thanks
Dean Montevago [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CLEARSMF PROC N=1
DUMPMAN EXEC PGM=IFASMFDP,REGION=5M
DUMPIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SYSNAME..MANN
DUMPOUT DD DISP=NEW,DSN=JUNK,UNIT=SYSDA,
We do NOW !!!
Campbell Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You don't save some of your SMF data ?
!
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Howard Rifkind
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Clearing the
In a message dated 6/3/2005 6:23:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did you read the article in Computer World about the young man who got a job
at Timken Steel after getting a degree in Akron that included IBM sponsored
assembler classes ?
Yep, too little too
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