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Thank you, everyone, for all the responses. What appeared to be an extra
level of difficulty surrounding a relatively simple problem now seems to
have so many answers it's difficult to select the right one!
I'll probably be going down the PERFORM= route for the sake of simplicity.
John
My problem with your possible solution is my box is Z/990...
But thanks anyway. I'm still waiting for my guard angel to come to help!!!
Saludos!
Best regards!
Víctor de la Fuente Seivane
Departamento de Sistemas
Caixa Galicia
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Is OG orphaned storage (Memory leak) or still owned by someone?
The owner is always the owner assigned when the storage was obtained. OG is
far from always being orphaned. It just might be misclassified. If you
get storage and terminate and expect to use that storage later then you
ought to be
Can you provide a code snippet where you set up the lengths.- Paul Hanrahan
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Why is it so much easier to post a question here and wait for a resonse
than to pick up a phone or write an email to the vendor? Many times
that conversation with the vendor will give you additional information
you would never get from posting to the list.
That's easy to answer. Whenever I call
Sorry! I thought I already put it on Friday...
The code (only the part where I use ICSF) is:
ENCIPHEREDKEY=SUBSTR(COMAREA,17,LENTRADA-16);
ENCIPHEREDKEYLENGTH=LENTRADA-16;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]('D',ENCIPHEREDKEY,ENCIPHEREDKEYLENGTH,
Not being an OS/2 aficianado, I don't have much of a reaction to the
news, but I am curious as to what IBM will run on our zBox HMC. I
would imagine some flavor of Linux. Anybody know?
IBM said No comment when asked if the new OS would be Linux, but
apparently it would be a 'closed box',
You may have posted this already. Sorry if I missed it. Don't know if I'll
be of help but I'll look it over.
Paul Hanrahan
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On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 06:58:07AM -0500, Patrick Loftus wrote:
Not being an OS/2 aficianado, I don't have much of a reaction to the
news, but I am curious as to what IBM will run on our zBox HMC. I
would imagine some flavor of Linux. Anybody know?
IBM said No comment when asked if the
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Price fixing is illegal in many
states and countries, including the United States.
Bought any gasoline lately?
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HMCs for p and iSeries are Linux based, closed boxes. In very rare
cases, IBM services can get time-limited root password, otherwise it
is just HMC user you can use.
On 7/18/05, Jay Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 06:58:07AM -0500, Patrick Loftus wrote:
Not being an
Bill Fairchild wrote:
My point was not how close 5 is to 4095, but rather the difficulty in
patching an instruction when the patch only allows 12 bits to be changed (in an LA
instruction) vs. when the patch allows 16 bits to be changed (when changing a
half word literal).
A zap is a
In a message dated 7/18/2005 7:31:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
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A zap is a zap. I see no difference in degree of difficulty patching one
bit, 12 bits, or 16. The real problem with patching a literal is that it
might be referenced by more than one instruction.
For everyone who wants to know: OA12196 has been closed. I was quoted apar
ua19432.
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Right. There is no difference in difficulty. My point was that if the
needed zap involves changing a constant of 4095 to 4096, then you can't do it by
zapping a 12-bit displacement in a LA instruction but you can do it if
affected instruction is using a halfword,
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In a message dated 7/18/2005 7:57:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Except for the problem I mentioned earlier that a literal can be
referenced by more than one instruction. I prefer to always use
immediate instructions when possible.
A named halfword can also be
The first sentence below is from Gerhard Postpischil.
And atrocities like LH r,=H'5' rather than LA r,5 are still timely.
It gets worse[1]; I've seen stuff like LH r,FIVE with FIVE DC H'5'.
--
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OK, I'll byte (pun intended).
...
5 is always less than 4095.
DUH. Thanks for pointing that out. And 4094 is also always less than 4095.
...
2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of '2')
(8-{]}
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If you can show me (outside of contrived benchmarks) that this will make a
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snip
OK, I'll byte (pun intended).
In a recent note, McKown, John said:
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:26:49 -0500
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And why is LH r,FIVE with FIVE DC H'5' worse than atrocious?
Well, why is FIVE
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 06:58 -0500, Patrick Loftus wrote:
IBM said No comment when asked if the new OS would be Linux, but
apparently it would be a 'closed box', meaning you will not be able to run
any of your own software/applications on the box.
Doesn't break my heart ~at all~. Our little
We are moving a datacenter to ours. We have a question does anyone know
the transfer rates for a DMX2000 or DMX3000? We want to dump a dmx box to
ibm 3590 drives. We currently don't have EMC dasd attached to our
mainframe to get a bench work.
Thanks
Andy S White
Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL
Andy,
What kind of chpids do you have and what kind of cards are in the EMC
boxes (or that you can get to put in them)? Then, how are your tape
drives attached? ESCON is slower than FICON is slower than FICON
Express is slower than FICON Express 2. The limiting factor is the
speed of the
Good Morning list !
Supposing I get a message whose request header (ISTRH) shows that the RHFI
bit is ON
BROWSESYS1.MACLIB(ISTRH) Line 0069 C
Command === Scroll
RHFI EQU B'1000' FORMAT
In a message dated 7/18/2005 6:47:26 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's easy to answer. Whenever I call SAS here in Germany, nobody at their
phone lines is able to answer any question. When they hear we're running SAS
on z/OS, they all back off and tell me that
In a message dated 7/18/2005 8:12:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you have Omegamon 'Classic' you can also use the asvt minor with the
SYS major command...
SYS WLM Goal mode OPT=07 SYSRES=(SY07I2,8513)
asvt Total ASVT slots: 2010 Available: 1481 In
Bo Xie wrote:
Hi,
3. Dignus System/C. If I can compile a c source code in linux box
by gcc, I can, by all means, compile it in z/OS box by Dignus System/C
without changing the c source code? If the answer is YES, Dignus
System/C will be a perfect tool to do UNIX/Linux-z/OS porting, and
it's
Use the TSO HBDELETE command (HSM BACKUP_COPY DELETE) and you can add
your_gdg_base_dsn.* to the end of the GDG base (DSN parameter) to get all
generations'. Check the TSO HELP command for specific syntax when
attempting to delete all backup-copy entries except the most recent one and
there is a
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There used to be manuals that detailed the TH, RH and RU in
gruesome detail.
SNA Formats was one; the other I knew about was SNA Network Products
Formats which was a licensed publication last time I
Hello everyone... We will be installing a stand-alone 3592 tape system
on our z/OS 1.4 system. It includes a 3592-J70 controller and 2 3592-J1A
drives in an RS/6000 type frame (ESCON attached). I have downloaded the
PSP and manuals but so far I have not been able to find much about the
MTL option
Does anyone know what is the Structured field definition in the LU ?
Dan
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Ken,
I agree at the time we order the languages there are no ALT function or maybe
it was a fault.
It's not my area. I was involved because CICS V3 isn't supported so it comes to
my desk.
Roland
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I believe you got Debug V4 with Cobol but not V5 which is now a seperate
product.
Well it's not my area
Roland
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But was it *TRANSPARENT*?
Yes.
I need to know if they have to change *anything*.
Nobody had to change anything. Indeed, outside of us Techies, nobody knew
it was done.
If you *use* the IBM Debug
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I believe you got Debug V4 with Cobol but not V5 which is now
a seperate product.
Correct.
Also, if you license v5, you must *explicitly terminate* any older-version
licenses you don't want to
Never mind my earlier post, I didn't catch the fact it was the
stand-alone debugger you were chasing and removing the debugger that
comes with COBOL. Brain-dead on a Monday already - I hate to see what
I'll be like the end of the week
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But was it *TRANSPARENT*?
I need to know if they have to change *anything*.
Bob
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We're planing because Debug with Cobol Full Function V4 doesn't support CTS V3
(CICS).
Only Debug V5 does and it seems this is always a standalone product.
Another thing is it will be cheaper as we have C/C++ with Debug, PL/1 with
Debug and Cobol
with Debug. So switching to all of them without
I don't have it but I thought the full function just adds the Debug product
(i.e. Debug product is the same whether ordered separately or with a
language/full function). If you have multiple languages, check the pricing, it
may be cheaper to order full function PL/I and alt function Cobol than
If you have COBOL full function you already have the debugger. COBOL
Alt is the COBOL compiler without the debugger.
Rex
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Don,
I know hot to use it. The XSC and XDC converte the output machine
character code to Asa character control.
Do you know or have you heard some program that execute the same
procedure as XDC and XSC?
Geraldo
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I am thinking of ordering Debug for z/OS and changing COBOL Full Function to
COBOL Alt.
Does anyone know if this would be entirely transparent to the application
programmers?
Bob Richards
Technologist
Enterprise Technology Infrastructure
SunTrust Banks, Inc.
(404) 575-2798
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards.Bob
I am thinking of ordering Debug for z/OS and changing COBOL
Full Function to COBOL Alt.
Does anyone know if this would be entirely transparent to the
application programmers?
We did it w/o
HI Everybody!!!
Someone is familiary with XSC and XDC ipsf utilities?
In case yes, thre is a similar program to create a step to run to do the
same as XSC into jcl?
I´ll be waiting.
Thanks.
Geraldo
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HI Everybody!!!
Someone is familiary with XSC and XDC ipsf utilities?
In case yes, thre is a similar program to create a step to run to do the
same as XSC into jcl?
I´ll be waiting.
Thanks.
Geraldo
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Neil,
In principle, it seems as though it *should* work, but I have this nagging
feeling that I tried this once many years ago and the COMMDS was a problem on
the SET SMS=.
I do believe it would work if you IPL'ed the lpar with the new IGDSMSnew, just
not sure about the SET SMS=.
Bob
My guess is that the XSC and XDC that you are talking about are from SDSF.
If that is so, then you can use SJ to display the JCL and instream data that
was submitted. From there you can save it into a data set.
Don Imbriale
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Haven't seen any results so I thought I'd give it another go. Anyone
willing to pat me on the back and say, Go for it, sonny, or shake a
mighty finger with, You *stoopid* fool! Don't you know that...
*grin*
I'm/we're trying to move to a more sophisticated SMS setup from the
basic
Paul/John
Thank you for your prompt answer. I do have SNA formats. I will try to
search for the other books.
For the time being I will compare the 2 bytes of ru+1 for x'0502', and if
yes, I will check if it is x'0502FF', to be sure that it is the attach
request ... I hope I will not find in the
I can only answer the SHARABLE question. If the drives can be shared by
multiple images, then you really need them to be genned as SHARABLE.
This function is similar in nature to the SHARED parameter for DASD.
What it does is tell z/OS to issue an ASSIGN command to the drive
(control unit
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There used to be manuals that detailed the TH, RH and RU in gruesome
detail.
SNA Formats was one; the
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:05:36 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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There used to be manuals that detailed the TH, RH and RU in
gruesome detail.
SNA Formats was one; the other I knew about was SNA
It seems that the Debug 5.1 is being bundled with the 'full function' offerings.
/rant
Can't you just call it 'Cobol' or 'IBM Cobol' and leave it at that?
Every time you change the name our development folks go nuts and insist on a
long drawn out test and implementation period (never thought I
Pity, you've been paying three times for the same thing. Whoever
fills/approves the orders (your IBM rep?) should catch this and at least let
you know. Every time we did an upgrade (Serverpac for z/OS) we always got a
call to review the order and something like this would be caught.
Maybe
Estaré ausente de la oficina desde el 18/07/2005 y no volveré hasta el
05/08/2005.
Responderé a su mensaje cuando regrese.
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Does anyone know what is the Structured field definition in the LU ?
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/cn7p4000/5.1
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Hi folks,
What level of VLF trimming is considered acceptable? In particular for
Catalogs and LLA.
Should I aim for zero trimming, or should I expect some level of trimming?
TIA
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Maybe you can try for a refund?
Right, your accounts manager should be able to get credit and
your ISV/IBM rep should concur. This is a routine business practice. IBM's
accounting system is
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