some questions about System z PR/SM.

2007-08-11 Thread legolas wood
Hi Thank you for reading my email. I have some question about PR/SM and I would be very thankful for any answer. - System z PR/SM is implemented as hardware and it is capability of IBM mainframe hardware. - z/OS or z/VM are interfaces (command line or GUI ) that let us use the above capability

Re: Another why did they do it this way? question - SMF time stamps

2007-08-11 Thread R.S.
McKown, John wrote: Does anybody know why the people who designed SMF decided to encode the date and time as FL4'hundredths of seconds after midnight' plus PL4'0cyyddd'? Why not just put in the STCK value? STCK is guaranteed to be unique on a system (and on a sysplex). [...] And, continuing

Re: Load Profile Icon on a Service Processor

2007-08-11 Thread R.S.
Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: [...] As you already figured out, the service processor is not the HMC software. It is not meant to be used as the HMC. That is why you need that special 'key' to open the frame and then go to the trouble of untoggling the bolt that keeps it from swinging in the breeze.

Re: some questions about System z PR/SM.

2007-08-11 Thread R.S.
legolas wood wrote: Hi Thank you for reading my email. I have some question about PR/SM and I would be very thankful for any answer. - System z PR/SM is implemented as hardware and it is capability of IBM mainframe hardware. - z/OS or z/VM are interfaces (command line or GUI ) that let us use

Re: Age Poll Results: 49.47

2007-08-11 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 15:55 +, corneel booysen wrote: This poll has served to confirm my concern about the aging workforce and the effect of that on the future of the mainframe. ... Are we creating an environment that promotes and nurtures new talent? Over the years I have seen the

Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread john gilmore
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Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread Bob Shannon
SCKPF OK. What is it? Bob Shannon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 7:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique SCKPF John Gilmore Ashland, MA

Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Could it be HLASM - SCKPF = Set ClocK Programmable Field. The opcode of the SCKPF instruction is X'0107' Lizette SCKPF OK. What is it? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:54:21 -0400, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could it be HLASM - SCKPF = Set ClocK Programmable Field. The opcode of the SCKPF instruction is X'0107' yes I think it is to set the last 2 bytes of the stcke value in order to make sure that the value is unique

Re: some questions about System z PR/SM.

2007-08-11 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
legolas wood wrote: Hi Thank you for reading my email. I have some question about PR/SM and I would be very thankful for any answer. - System z PR/SM is implemented as hardware and it is capability of IBM mainframe hardware. Not really, as RS stated, PR/SM is microcode, special software that

Re: Age Poll Results: 49.47

2007-08-11 Thread Phil Kingston
I'd guess the risk of training someone new into the Mainframe environment and having them walk off with all the skills acquired are very low these days. You would need a healthy job market for that to happen The only way the Mainframe sysprog market will become healthy again, is when the

Re: some questions about System z PR/SM.

2007-08-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes: No. PR/SM is microcode - a code under OS. Sometimes called firmware. z/OS runs in LPAR. Although it can obtaine i.e. LPAR name, it is still unaware from PR/SM and LPARs features. z/OS works in virtual machine (Logical PARtition) and does know that machine.

Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread J R
SCKPF Are you suggesting that your systems programmer needs to write code to issue SCKPF, or is there a config setting that should be used? From: john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sysprog Action

Re: some questions about System z PR/SM.

2007-08-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- Hi Thank you for reading my email. I have some question about PR/SM and I would be very thankful for any answer. - System z PR/SM is implemented as hardware and it is capability of IBM mainframe hardware.

Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:28:23 -0400, J R wrote: SCKPF Are you suggesting that your systems programmer needs to write code to issue SCKPF, or is there a config setting that should be used? Have so many z/Series been sold that the 16-bit field couldn't simply be shipped preset from the factory in

Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- SCKPF Are you suggesting that your systems programmer needs to write code to issue SCKPF, or is there a config setting that should be used? unsnip-- Someone, somewhere, has to write a (probably

Re: override a proc step

2007-08-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:19:40 +, john gilmore wrote: More from the z/OS MVS JCL Reference, SA22-7597-08, p. 16-1: When a stepname is needed, it must be unique within the job, including stepnames in any procedures called by the job. I agree that this requirement is difficult to police

Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread Edward Jaffe
J R wrote: SCKPF Are you suggesting that your systems programmer needs to write code to issue SCKPF, or is there a config setting that should be used? Empirical testing shows this is being done automatically by z/OS. Just now, I executed STCKE on three different systems in the same

Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread J R
Someone, somewhere, has to write a (probably trivial) program to set the programmable field in the ETOD. Perhaps insert a LPAR ID? I don't know of any CONFIG or PARMLIB value that will set this field, although a PARMLIB value might be a pretty good idea. I agree, it's trivial. However, if

Re: Sysprog Action Makes STCKE Unique

2007-08-11 Thread J R
The last byte appears to be the sysplex member number in each case. Makes sense to me. If you want it to be something else, then would be the time to write a trivial program. This is not unlike the STCK TOD value. I believe that last 4 bits are set to the Id of the CPU that executed the

Re: Another why did they do it this way? question - SMF time stamps

2007-08-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- Does anybody know why the people who designed SMF decided to encode the date and time as FL4'hundredths of seconds after midnight' plus PL4'0cyyddd'? Why not just put in the STCK value? STCK is guaranteed to be unique on a system (and

Re: Age Poll Results: 49.47

2007-08-11 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 11, 2007, at 5:08 AM, Shane wrote: ---SNIP-- Must say I'm surprised this hasn't elicited even one response. For as long as I've been in the business, it has not embraced new talent - getting a start was always hard. People prefer to pay for knowledge rather than train

Re: override a proc step

2007-08-11 Thread john gilmore
Paul Gilmartin asks If a single job calls the same procedure two or more times, how does one make the stepnames in [the] procedures called unique? One makes them unique by not having duplicate names among them, but something else is presumably intended here. If one calls the same

Re: SYSPROG action makes STCKE unique

2007-08-11 Thread john gilmore
The results Edward Jaffe posted are of course entirely correct and reproducible for simple, vanilla sysplexes. There are, however, some more complex situations in which default prefix values do not ensure uniqueness. I have asked the client for whom I resolved one such problem to authorize my

Judge Says Unix Copyrights Rightfully Belong to Novell

2007-08-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/11/technology/11novell.html?ref=business In the 102-page ruling, the judge, Dale A. Kimball, also said Novell could force SCO to abandon its claims against I.B.M. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL

SHARE San Diego Snubbery

2007-08-11 Thread Tom Schmidt
I forgot - are we snubbing at this SHARE or is it a snub-free zone in San Diego? I kind of snubbed Ed Jaffe and Bob Rogers tonight, although they were maybe snubbing me even better. (If we're going to snub here we might need some striped shirts (refs) to make some of these calls.) --

Re: SHARE San Diego Snubbery

2007-08-11 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Schmidt wrote: I forgot - are we snubbing at this SHARE or is it a snub-free zone in San Diego? I kind of snubbed Ed Jaffe and Bob Rogers tonight, although they were maybe snubbing me even better. (If we're going to snub here we might need some striped shirts (refs) to make some of

ADMIN DB2-L Service Restored

2007-08-11 Thread Galambos, Robert
DB2-L Service Restored We are pleased to announce that the IDUG-sponsored DB2 Listserve (DB2-L) has been restored. A team of very dedicated volunteers has been working literally night and day to restore service following an outage that occurred Friday, July 27. The outage was caused when the