Batch Tuning

2007-12-27 Thread Jason To
We have been constantly improving our batch window by implementing the following available technologies: 1. SMS SMB and data compression on some of our VSAM files 2. System determined blocksizes on sequential files 3. BUFNO on some input files 4. Constantly improving our access to DB2 4.1

Re: Question about a NAME/TOKEN pair restriction

2007-12-27 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
That sounds logical. Thanks, Jim! Jerry On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:10:45 -0500, Jim Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 12/26/2007 01:10:14 PM: For both the IEANTCR and IEANTRT name/token pair service macros, the documentation states:

RES: Batch Tuning

2007-12-27 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
This seems to be fine and you can still : 8. About CATALOG 8.1 Use ECS (If SYSPLEX) 8.2 VLF 9. Use LLA heavily 10. Verify LE options 11. Verify Compile options 12. If you can spend some money, BatchPipes 13. Verify if you can substitute SORT by MERGE in some applications 14. Verify if Cobol

New System Build

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Wilson
List, This question relates to migrating from a Flex server with no external tape or external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000 disk. We have no tape units installed on the z9 and zVM is not installed the flex box. We wish to migrate the zOS systems and data currently in use to the new z9

Re: Some new (some old) Funny Mainframe Sales Videos

2007-12-27 Thread Kelman, Tom
Radoslaw, when someone on the board finds something they think may be of interest to others it is nice to have it posted so all of us don't have to go searching. We might not hit the same pages as he did. However, my company blocks access to youtube so I've forward this to my personal email

Re: RMF STC and Parmlib

2007-12-27 Thread Hal Merritt
What was that? :-)) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RMF STC and Parmlib When you hit 50, everyone shouts at you twice before you

z390 Mainframe Assembler Coding Contest - new problem #10 and another solution for problem #8

2007-12-27 Thread Don Higgins
All A new problem #10 and another solution for problem #9 have been posted on the contest web site here: http://z390.sourceforge.net/z390_Mainframe_Assemble_Coding_Contest.htm This new problem should not be too hard (no floating point required) so you can work on it while watching bowl games

Re: FlashCopy problem?

2007-12-27 Thread Justin Eastman
As someone said before you can ignore the DSF messages or you can use BLDWTOR to reply to your messages. The following essentially replies to all ICK003D messages for all steps in the job //STEP01 EXEC PGM=BLDWTOR //WTORIN DD * WHEN(ICK003D,*,*,*)

Re: Sizing a read-only zFS container file

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sizing a read-only zFS container file I doubt if it will work, since it won't account for

Re: New System Build

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fagen Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: New System Build On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:16 -, Mark Wilson wrote: -snip- This

Re: FlashCopy problem?

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Eastman Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FlashCopy problem? As someone said before you can ignore the DSF messages or you can use

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Warner Mach
OK ... So we are on the fringes, trying to guess what IBM is up to in the low-end (even laptop) mainframe space. But (correct me if I am wrong) it seems to be something like this: (1) IBM's mainframe strategy seems to be to keep the cash-cow going as long as possible for those customers who are

Re: Batch Tuning

2007-12-27 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 02:49 -0600, Jason To wrote: any other thing we can do to implement to improve our batch further? Striping works well in our environment. We allocate more stripes depending on the size of the dataset, up to the number of channel paths available. Hiperbatch might be

Re: RMF STC and Parmlib

2007-12-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
When you hit 50, everyone shouts at you twice before you listen... Did that this year. I have now spent more than half my life working in IT. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Sizing a read-only zFS container file

2007-12-27 Thread Kirk Wolf
I doubt if it will work, since it won't account for i-node space requirements. The only sure-fire way is probably to unwind it twice - first to a zFS filesystem that is plenty big, then drop it and redefine to the required size. On Dec 26, 2007 1:28 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: New System Build

2007-12-27 Thread Scott Fagen
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:16 -, Mark Wilson wrote: -snip- This question relates to migrating from a Flex server with no external tape or external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000 disk. We have no tape units installed on the z9 and zVM is not installed the flex box. We wish to migrate the

Re: FlashCopy problem?

2007-12-27 Thread Paul Jodlowski
Yeah I figured there was an APAR out. Will get and install. In mean time will just have to add a step to init target packs any reply 'U' 37 times Cheers :-) Justin Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with doing the full volume copy even with nocopy is that track 0 is

Re: FlashCopy problem?

2007-12-27 Thread Dennis Trojak
Forget the replies, let DSF handle it: //DSF EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Jodlowski Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FlashCopy

Re: RMF STC and Parmlib

2007-12-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
When you hit 50, everyone shouts at you twice before you listen... I got the point after reading it twice. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message:

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: It keeps getting uglier Warner Mach wrote: (4) IBM does not, itself, want to make a

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Warner Mach wrote: (4) IBM does not, itself, want to make a low-end emulated-on-Intel mainframe. What is the reason for this? Presumably the bean-counters have determined that it would not be profitable enough or it might allow some clever locked-in customers to escape? IBM has developed,

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT Personally, I would think that addressing the root issue

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Hal Merritt
Personally, I would think that addressing the root issue would be a lot more effective in the long run. Why not just ask the offending program's support person to fix the bug? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giliad Wilf

Re: FlashCopy problem?

2007-12-27 Thread Jim Mulder
Justin Eastman/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/27/2007 10:52:40 AM: As someone said before you can ignore the DSF messages or you can use BLDWTOR to reply to your messages. The following essentially replies to all ICK003D messages for all steps in the job //STEP01 EXEC PGM=BLDWTOR

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Doc Farmer
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:13:50 -0800, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBM has developed, and deployed internally to some employees, including their sales force -- for z-based product demonstration purposes -- the zPDT (System z Personal Development Tool). It is a System z emulator on Intel,

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Doc Farmer wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:13:50 -0800, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBM has developed, and deployed internally to some employees, including their sales force -- for z-based product demonstration purposes -- the zPDT (System z Personal Development Tool). It is a System

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT Personally, I would think that addressing

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT snip Huh? What have you got against judicious use of

Re: FlashCopy problem?

2007-12-27 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 12/27/2007 7:53:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: reply 'U' 37 times Or use 'NOREPLYU' as PARM-double check UCB address! **See AOL's top rated recipes

Curiousity question: the processing of DD DUMMY.

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
I'm curious if anybody knows how z/OS actually processes the OPEN for a DUMMY DD statement. I know that basically output is ignored and input causes an immediate EOF. But I wondering if OPEN is smart enough that if a file is opened for OUTPUT, the address in the DCB is simply to a IEFBR14 type

Re: Curiousity question: the processing of DD DUMMY.

2007-12-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:39:31 -0600 McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :I'm curious if anybody knows how z/OS actually processes the OPEN for a :DUMMY DD statement. I know that basically output is ignored and input :causes an immediate EOF. But I wondering if OPEN is smart enough that if :a

Re: Batch Tuning

2007-12-27 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 12/27/2007 3:15:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: any other thing we can do to implement to improve our batch further? Check RMF (or other monitors') stats for IOS queueing on your batch DASD farm. If excessive, add some PAVs, if possible,

Re: Curiousity question: the processing of DD DUMMY.

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: I'm curious if anybody knows how z/OS actually processes the OPEN for a DUMMY DD statement. I know that basically output is ignored and input causes an immediate EOF. But I wondering if OPEN is smart enough that if a file is opened for OUTPUT, the address in the DCB is simply

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT snip Huh? What have you got against

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Don Leahy
Nowadays, oncall programmers are not expected to solve problems. They are expected to bypass them. Judicious use of DISPLAY statements can tell the programmer, for example, exactly which record to pull from the input file. Yes, you can also figure that out from the dump, but it takes longer.

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT snip Using DISPLAY to generate a report is very

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT Nowadays, oncall programmers are not expected to solve

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT SNIPAGE Judicious use is, barely, tolerable to me (see below).

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- Huh? What have you got against judicious use of DISPLAY so that you want to call the programmer an idiot? unsnip-- Far too many programmers earn the nickname IDIOT. There's a HUGE difference between testing

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I rewrote a single COBOL program myself. The run time went from about 12 hours to less than one hour. And it was a change to only one paragraph. And not likely a truly optimal change at that. In the very early 1980's, my ex-wife was a junior COBOL programmer at a large Canadian (now out of

New MFNetDisk new version after massive QA and massive fixes.

2007-12-27 Thread Shai Hess
We release a new MFNetDisk version after a massive QA and updates. The new version is a big step to switch the product status from beta to production. A lot of fixes are included in the new version. The FasSync mode has been rewritten, and it is also verifying the real 3390 IO end status

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip- You've got that right! I see many code examples in many languages on the Web. I tend to try to correct messages where there is suboptimal code. Why? Because cut and paste programmers will continue to use that horrible code until the end of time. Of course,

Re: FlashCopy problem?

2007-12-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip-- I would guess that BLDWTOR is an internal DFSMS test tool which works in concert with an internal tool IEAVXMIT exit. unsnip--- Based on that guess, I respectfully submit that the program and related exit should be

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Don Leahy
On Dec 27, 2007 2:16 PM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---snip- You've got that right! I see many code examples in many languages on the Web. I tend to try to correct messages where there is suboptimal code. Why? Because cut and paste programmers will

Re: Batch Tuning

2007-12-27 Thread Adams, Rick
If you are using HSM you can check your recall activity and see what activity is in your batch cycle. Adjust the management class of these datasets to keep them on disk if possible thus avoiding the delay of waiting for a recall! ThanksRick In a message dated 12/27/2007 3:15:10 A.M. Central

Re: New System Build

2007-12-27 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:18:14 -0600, Scott Fagen wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:16 -, Mark Wilson wrote: -snip- This question relates to migrating from a Flex server with no external tape or external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000 disk. We have no tape units installed on the z9 and zVM

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:16:34 -0600, Rick Fochtman wrote: We did something similar. Programmer coded IDMS PREPARE and FINISH comands inside a loop that was being executed 200,000-350,000 timer per run! Just moving the PREPARE and FINISH commands outside the loop cut the run time from 4+ hours to

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:24:03 -0600, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

Re: New System Build

2007-12-27 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:16 -, Mark Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List, This question relates to migrating from a Flex server with no external tape or external disk to a new z9 + external DS6000 disk. We have no tape units installed on the z9 and zVM is not installed the flex box. We

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 27, 2007, at 12:24 PM, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT snip

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 27, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Doc Farmer wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:13:50 -0800, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBM has developed, and deployed internally to some employees, including their sales force -- for z-based product demonstration purposes -- the zPDT (System z Personal

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT snip What about error messages to be issued when the

Re: Curiousity question: the processing of DD DUMMY.

2007-12-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:39:31 -0600, McKown, John wrote: I'm curious if anybody knows how z/OS actually processes the OPEN for a DUMMY DD statement wondering if OPEN is smart enough that if a file is opened for OUTPUT, the address in the DCB is simply to a IEFBR14 type module, or is it more

Re: Batch Tuning

2007-12-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 27, 2007, at 2:49 AM, Jason To wrote: We have been constantly improving our batch window by implementing the following available technologies: 1. SMS SMB and data compression on some of our VSAM files 2. System determined blocksizes on sequential files 3. BUFNO on some input files 4.

Re: Batch Tuning

2007-12-27 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
One of the biggest things we have done is to move as much as possible from tape to disk. We had a large number of batch jobs at night that used tape, and some of the jobs used the SAME tape as input. Moving these files to disk probably cut down the nightly batch cycle by around 20 percent

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:02:07 -0600, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- What about error messages to be issued when the program terminates abnormally? IMO, when a program encounters an error condition that prevents it from continuing, a good programmer will produce a nice

Re: Batch Tuning

2007-12-27 Thread Rugen, Len
It seems to me that tuning is usually like shampoo instructions; lather, rinse, repeat. Find the bottle neck, fix it, find the new bottle neck. You need the tools to find the bottlenecks in the critical paths. There may be some jobs that run a long time but aren't in a critical path, so

Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Bill Klein
Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:24:03 -0600, McKown, John wrote: snip What about error messages to be issued when the program terminates abnormally? IMO, when a program encounters an error condition that prevents it from

Re: Batch Tuning

2007-12-27 Thread Mohammad Khan
Jason, Generic efforts like you mentioned below are generally fine but they don't address specific issues. In fact in some cases they may have the adverse effect e.g. adding index to a DB2 table will not help a job that mainly does INSERTs. Tuning can sometimes feel like robbing Peter to pay

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 27, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:02:07 -0600, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- What about error messages to be issued when the program terminates abnormally? IMO, when a program encounters an error condition that prevents it from

Re: ISPF Action Bar Menus

2007-12-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/21/2007 at 11:11 AM, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I've got something that is bugging me since I started here at Aviva. How do I get rid of the Action Bar menus at the top of every ISPF screen? Turn off SAA? In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/26/2007 at

Re: Java Problem Analysis

2007-12-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/13/2007 at 11:27 AM, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This really rubs me the wrong way, not because it isn't true, Of course it's true, it's just not a valid excuse for refusing to work on a problem when it isn't possible to provide a test case. The quote

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/19/2007 at 09:01 PM, Doug Fuerst [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I fail to understand why anyone would find this stunning. You really didn't think IBM gave away every trade secret did you? When I was at Intel they weren't giving out the chip masks for the processors or

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/26/2007 at 02:14 PM, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: While its function was (and still is, AFIAK) undocumented, Not even that, in the old days. Since it was model dependent, PoOps did not and could not provide the details, but the CE manuals in the old days

Re: Controlling COBOL DDs named SYSOUT

2007-12-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 27, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: I rewrote a single COBOL program myself. The run time went from about 12 hours to less than one hour. And it was a change to only one paragraph. And not likely a truly optimal change at that. In the very early 1980's, my ex-wife was a junior

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 27, 2007, at 6:25 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/19/2007 at 09:01 PM, Doug Fuerst [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I fail to understand why anyone would find this stunning. You really didn't think IBM gave away every trade secret did you? When I was at

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Doug Fuerst
You bet Ed. I learned things about diagnose that I never saw written down from guys who were some of the original 360 65/67 support staff. Doug snip IBM also kept the existence of the diagnose instruction hidden in obscure places for many years before innocently admitting that it existed

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread John P. Baker
That may be, but that is not what he said. He referred specifically to the existence of the Diagnose instruction. The Diagnose instruction has been documented in every Principles of Operation manual issued for the S/360 architecture and for all subsequent superseding architectures, and in every

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 27, 2007, at 10:32 PM, John P. Baker wrote: That may be, but that is not what he said. He referred specifically to the existence of the Diagnose instruction. The Diagnose instruction has been documented in every Principles of Operation manual issued for the S/360 architecture and for

Re: Curiousity question: the processing of DD DUMMY.

2007-12-27 Thread Barbara Nitz
Because the application may not check to determine if it is a dummy file. The application may require the data from the JFCB Actually, I just had a bloody row about a DD dummy statement in the JCL for a new release of a vendor product. It appears that a dd dummy generates a dsn of NULLFILE in

Re: It keeps getting uglier

2007-12-27 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
John P. Baker wrote: the functions performed by the Diagnose instruction are not published, but may impact any and all aspects of system operation, and if invoked by a user application built without access to that unpublished documentation, may negatively impact the proper functioning of the

New System Build (Part II)

2007-12-27 Thread Mark Wilson
All, Thanks for the suggestions regarding FlexCUB and MFNetDisk; but this does not answer my original question. If I have an IPL'd Stand Alone system running on the New z9 and zVM/CMS is installed; can I take a Full volume dump on zOS; ftp it to zVM/CMS; save the file and then use this