Devserv Command

2008-02-18 Thread RHK HK
Hi, Can DEVSERV command can be run as Batch job to get the out and how. Pls help. Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

dsntype large and ftp or c/c++

2008-02-18 Thread Barbara Nitz
We just learned the hard way that in our installation it is impossible to ftp a dsnytpe=large dataset with a primary allocation 64K to IBM. The 'normal' ftp (not using a c/c++ program) inside our firewall ends 'normally', but the transfered bytes do not fit the dataset size. I have found an

z390 VSAM KSDS AVL balanced tree insert support and SHARE

2008-02-18 Thread Don Higgins
z390 PTF v1.4.00e now available for download from www.z390.org has new VSAM KSDS AVL balanced tree insert support. For details and download link with InstallShield support for Windows visit: http://z390.sourceforge.net/z390_Download_Archive.htm This PTF contains single RPI 806 enhancement to

Doc server?

2008-02-18 Thread Chase, John
Is it just me, or are the IBM public documentation servers incomprehensibly slow lately? Noticed it yesterday from home, where I'm not encumbered by the internal networking: Multiple MINUTES to display even the contents page for a manual, then multiple MINUTES per page. I gave up rather

Re: Doc server?

2008-02-18 Thread Bill Wilkie
John: It's not you, it's been slow for me as well. I just gave up and went onto something else. Bill Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:37:45 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Doc server? To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Is it just me, or are the IBM public documentation servers incomprehensibly slow

Re: LISTCAT - Creation Date

2008-02-18 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
esmie moo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to find out when a certain alias was created or defined. I tried the following: LISTC ENT('Y2K02D') ALL The information returned back to me did not give me the

Re: Need TSO ISPF short cut commands

2008-02-18 Thread Steve Comstock
Sivakumar, Manikandan wrote: Mark, As I am working as Program Products installations, I would like to know some short cut commands in ISPF/TSO to simplify my tasks. Ex. Cut/Move/Copy/Paste/Label/ X ALL Is it possible to run as scripts?. Thanks for your support. Regards, Mani. Why

Re: Need TSO ISPF short cut commands

2008-02-18 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:46:55 +0200, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look up EDIT MACROS. And you can find lots of examples on my MVS web site (URL below in my signature line) and many other web site including the CBT collection at http://www.cbttape.org. Try to google ISPF EDIT

Re: Doc server?

2008-02-18 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] m... Is it just me, or are the IBM public documentation servers incomprehensibly slow lately? Noticed it yesterday from home, where I'm not encumbered by the internal networking: Multiple MINUTES to display even the

LISTCAT - Creation Date

2008-02-18 Thread esmie moo
Good Morning Gentle Readers, I am trying to find out when a certain alias was created or defined. I tried the following: LISTC ENT('Y2K02D') ALL The information returned back to me did not give me the date the alias was defined. Could anybody please suggest something else

Re: Need TSO ISPF short cut commands

2008-02-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 17 Feb 2008 23:11:19 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sivakumar, Manikandan) wrote: Thanks for your response!. I would prefer to simply my tasks while using Copy/Paste/Cut/Move/Label... Is it possible to run as script? I would like to know your best advice on X ALL command. You might wish to learn

Re: Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe

2008-02-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:47:44 -0600, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's about pretty colors, fancy fonts, drop down boxes, scroll bars, drag and drop, point and click and you can't do that on the mainframe. If IBM had embraced graphic screen application development 15 years ago mainframes would

Re: OT: D/R situation in an Airliner

2008-02-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:02:47 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: D/R is just not an option at 10K (or more) meters up. The closest time I ever got to fly a plane was in the Caribbean between islands. My knuckles were wrapped around a steering wheel so tightly that my hands were white. The pilot was right

Re: Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe

2008-02-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:27:49 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote: On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:47:44 -0600, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's about pretty colors, fancy fonts, drop down boxes, scroll bars, drag and drop, point and click and you can't do that on the mainframe. If IBM had embraced graphic

Re: Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe

2008-02-18 Thread Steve Comstock
Wayne Driscoll wrote: Paul, I'll agree that IBM should provide HTTP access to the mainframe. But to require that it be one or the other is ridiculous. Why should people that are comfortable with TSO/ISPF be forced to learn a new way to do their job? If LINUX/UNIX can support multiple shells,

VSAM statistics and magic 2063500433

2008-02-18 Thread R.S.
I did some tests with KSDS. Test program did a lot of various reads, all reads were random (through index). After every run of the program VSAM statistics showed by IDCAMS LISTCAT were updated - number of REC-RETRIEVED was increased. Until I achived 2063500433. After that the number of records

Re: Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe

2008-02-18 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Paul, I'll agree that IBM should provide HTTP access to the mainframe. But to require that it be one or the other is ridiculous. Why should people that are comfortable with TSO/ISPF be forced to learn a new way to do their job? If LINUX/UNIX can support multiple shells, why must IBM stabilize

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/17/2008 at 02:07 PM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: To the extent that machine-level instructions are present in open code (similar to PL/X GENERATE), they are there because they are doing things that the compiler cannot do. This is true on ANY operating

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/15/2008 at 06:53 PM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK, I'll bite. A PDS directory block has an 8-byte count area, an 8-byte key area, and a 256-byte data area. Aha! When is a directory block not 256 bytes long? When 8 is not equal to

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/17/2008 at 12:06 PM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From what I've seen in looking at various bits and pieces of source code, PL/S or its replacement(s) have been most heavily used in the MVS code; not so much in OS/360, except SMP. Do you count BSL as

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/16/2008 at 01:59 PM, Scott Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But what is really interesting is that all scripting languages are similar I see sharp divisions among scripting languages, the most striking of which is the way that they handle variable substitution. --

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/15/2008 at 05:45 PM, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 192 makes it class C; No, 256 class C blocks, which is what the RFC states. and third block is a set of 256 contiguous class C network numbers. In either case it is a private IP address, ITYM

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/16/2008 at 08:46 AM, Phil Smith III [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Nothing misconfigured here: I explicitly CCed you, and you replied to the CC, not to the list copy. With Digested list delivery widespread, it's common courtesy to CC folks No, it's common discourtesy to

Re: Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe

2008-02-18 Thread Jon Brock
For that matter, I have run (well, started, anyway) Tomcat under Unix on z/OS using Dovetailed Technologies' JZOS. WebSphere not required. Jon snip I've suggested to IBM they should do exactly that, and in addition they should provide a port of Apache and Tomcat (outside of WebSphere) to

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-18 Thread R.S.
Ed Gould wrote: Radoslaw: Some people (a lot) on this list are (or should be) concerned about data destruction. Yes. So what ? If you are one of the few that are not concerned now but in [...] Bad assumption. I am concerned. BTDT. the future you may be asked (or involved) in such

Trace - log view tool

2008-02-18 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi I'm searching for a log/trace view tool on PC which can show nicely my GTF trace records(maybe after some consversion) - I can search - I can sort - I can select details etc. -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-18 Thread Mike Bell
The whole point of multiple write passes is that the physical head does not write a track at the same exact physical location every time. With the right equipment ( disk manufacturers and data recovery experts have it), you can center the read head off to the side of the track, and read a value

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-18 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 2/18/2008 10:09:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, I'll bite. A PDS directory block has an 8-byte count area, an 8-byte key area, and a 256-byte data area. Aha! When is a directory block not 256 bytes long? When 8 is not equal to 0.

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-18 Thread R.S.
Mike Bell wrote: The whole point of multiple write passes is that the physical head does not write a track at the same exact physical location every time. With the right equipment ( disk manufacturers and data recovery experts have it), you can center the read head off to the side of the track,

Re: Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe

2008-02-18 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Brazee) writes: Why do graphics belong on the server anyway? I don't want a Windows server to do the pretty graphics either. Put the

Re: MFNetDisk bugs and status.

2008-02-18 Thread shai hess
HI, Now we can say that the current release of MFNetDisk is in its best status. In the past we had list of bugs which we solved one after another. Now for the first time our code is great and there was not bugs list to be handle. We run now better tests, we have more time to test the product

Re: MFNetDisk bugs and status.

2008-02-18 Thread Mark Zelden
Shai, Sorry to play list policeman but... Why not start a yahoo group for those that are interested in your software or create some other opt-in mailing list. Then people can monitor that list or sign up for emails for updated status of your software instead of hijacking IBM-MAIN. No other

Re: SPAM: Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- From what I've seen in looking at various bits and pieces of source code, PL/S or its replacement(s) have been most heavily used in the MVS code; not so much in OS/360, except SMP. Do you count BSL as being PL/S? It was heavily used in OS/360,

Re: SPAM: Re: OT: D/R situation in an Airliner

2008-02-18 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip--- D/R is just not an option at 10K (or more) meters up. The closest time I ever got to fly a plane was in the Caribbean between islands. My knuckles were wrapped around a steering wheel so tightly that my hands were white. The pilot was right

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 Feb 2008 08:38:41 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) wrote: I read about it approx. 5 years ago, so it's not new for me. I understand why multiple passes are better than single pass, but still have no aswer how many times is good enough. Otherwise someone (official entity) could say 999

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-18 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip--- OK, I'll bite. A PDS directory block has an 8-byte count area, an 8-byte key area, and a 256-byte data area. Aha! When is a directory block not 256 bytes long? When 8 is not equal to 0. Which is why the number of directory blocks

Re: Interesting ibm about the myths of the Mainframe

2008-02-18 Thread Howard Brazee
On 18 Feb 2008 07:26:05 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne Driscoll) wrote: Paul, I'll agree that IBM should provide HTTP access to the mainframe. But to require that it be one or the other is ridiculous. Why should people that are comfortable with TSO/ISPF be forced to learn a new way to do their

most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tommy Tsui
hi all, we found that many jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2064 to 2094 (first day batch) . There are no error when runnng on 2064 machine. any shop have this problem?? Is there any control-block changed after upgrade CPU??/ any comment will be appreciated Many thanks tommy

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Tommy Tsui wrote: hi all, we found that many jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2064 to 2094 (first day batch) . There are no error when runnng on 2064 machine. any shop have this problem?? Is there any control-block changed after upgrade CPU??/ any comment will be appreciated

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Mark S. Waterbury
BSL was the first version of IBM's internal HLL for systems programming. BSL is to PL/S as PL/S is to PL/X. AFAIK, OS/360 PCP, MFT and MVT were developed almost entirely in BAL. It was not until well into the evolution of MVT that BSL was first used for much of TSO and some other utilities.

Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP

2008-02-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 9:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 NJE question: SNA(CTC) vs. TCPIP In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/14/2008 at

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 3:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Linux zSeries questions [snip] I don't believe it runs on a MAC, yet. [snip] Linux most

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Linux zSeries questions FWIW, there's a fair (and increasing) amount of z/OS written in

ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread McKown, John
We did a DR last week (and I immediately go sick the day after --- coincidence? You decide!). Anyway, one problem that we had was that we could only get 8 of the 16 ATL drives to become allocated. Note that all 16 drives would successfully come on line! It is just that when drives 0-7 were

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tommy Tsui
only I do that is increase the real memory from 1G to 2G. Is there any problem here On 2/19/08, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip we found that many jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2064 to 2094 (first day batch) . There are no error when runnng on 2064

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Staller, Allan
snip ... but some of our job does not code the region size on job step that means it will use the default. In our JES2 parm, the default region size is 1M. /snip This is most likely your problem. 1) change jobclass definitions in JES init deck 2) Issue $TJOBCLASS(*),REGION=4M (required). 4M is a

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tommy Tsui
This is a good idea but some of our job even code region=4M but also abended. On 2/19/08, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip ... but some of our job does not code the region size on job step that means it will use the default. In our JES2 parm, the default region size is 1M. /snip

Re: MFNetDisk bugs and status.

2008-02-18 Thread shai hess
HI, Sorry. I will stop to advertise my product as before. My product can be used for free, so I feel a little freedom to mention my product. Thanks, Shai On 2/18/08, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shai, Sorry to play list policeman but... Why not start a yahoo group for

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tommy Tsui
just like this message IEA705I ERROR DURING GETMAIN SYS CODE = 878-04 PXXJOB16 PBUGALT 00 IEA705I 00FB3400 009DFCF0 009DFCF0 00F87200 0398 IEA705I ERROR DURING GETMAIN SYS CODE = 878-04 PXXJOB16 PBUGALT 00 IEA705I 00FB3400 009DFCF0 009DFCF0 00F87200 0398 IEF450I PXXJOB16 PBUGALT -

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:35:35 +0800, Tommy Tsui wrote: our current setting on IEASYSXX SQA=(6,8M), CSA=(1600,4) real memory increase from 1G to 2G after upgrade from 2064 to 2094 As John pointed out, your abends are for SP 248, which is ESQA. Page Frame Tables are in ESQA, one 64 byte entry

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Staller, Allan
snip we found that many jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2064 to 2094 (first day batch) . There are no error when runnng on 2064 machine. any shop have this problem?? Is there any control-block changed after upgrade CPU??/ /snip Default region? Check (in roughly descending

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread August Carideo
I know this is a dif sub but also be careful if you are using OSA , we had a lot of trouble from 2064 - 2094 because IBM changed mach code Brian Peterson

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Tommy Tsui wrote: just like this message IEA705I ERROR DURING GETMAIN SYS CODE = 878-04 PXXJOB16 PBUGALT 00 IEA705I 00FB3400 009DFCF0 009DFCF0 00F87200 0398 IEA705I ERROR DURING GETMAIN SYS CODE = 878-04 PXXJOB16 PBUGALT 00 IEA705I 00FB3400 009DFCF0 009DFCF0 00F87200 0398 IEF450I

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Brian Peterson
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:11:27 +0800, Tommy Tsui wrote: hi all, we found that many jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2064 to 2094 (first day batch) . There are no error when runnng on 2064 machine. any shop have this problem?? Is there any control-block changed after upgrade CPU??/

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tommy Tsui
I check with the IODF definition. All device are already in LOCANY YES, but some of our job does not code the region size on job step that means it will use the default. In our JES2 parm, the default region size is 1M. On 2/19/08, Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tommy Tsui
our current setting on IEASYSXX SQA=(6,8M), CSA=(1600,4) real memory increase from 1G to 2G after upgrade from 2064 to 2094 On 2/19/08, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: only I do that is increase the real memory from 1G to 2G. Is there any problem here On 2/19/08, Staller,

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:52:45 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: Page Frame Tables are in ESQA, one 64 byte entry for every 4K byte page. Correction. PFTEs are now in a data space. Ignore what I said above. -- Tom Marchant -- For

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tommy Tsui
so, do you mean that additional ESQA required after 1G real memory adding? but why I have no problem when I adding 2GB to our development lpar with no change to ESQA??? On 2/19/08, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:52:45 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: Page Frame

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Tommy Tsui
Another interesting question, I changed this setting to 3 LPARs (from 1GB to 2GB real memory), but no job abended on another two LPARs. The other two LPARs with same SQA ESQA setting with default region size 1M. On 2/19/08, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, do you mean that additional

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Tommy Tsui wrote: This is a good idea but some of our job even code region=4M but also abended. The subpool in the error message indicates ESQA getmain failures. Altering the REGION on the jobcard or JES2 option won't have any effect. On 2/19/08, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Tommy Tsui wrote: our current setting on IEASYSXX SQA=(6,8M), CSA=(1600,4) real memory increase from 1G to 2G after upgrade from 2064 to 2094 Our SQA setting in IEASYS00 is : SQA=(12,45M). With the other ESQA that gets automatically added at NIP/IPL time we are running with a 60M

IBM contact for documentation servers?

2008-02-18 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All, Is there a person within IBM to contact regarding the total unresponsiveness of the public documentation server(s)? It/they is/are unusable in its/their current state. TIA, -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: MFNetDisk bugs and status.

2008-02-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
My product can be used for free, so I feel a little freedom to mention my product. Only the list moderator knows for sure, but I think it would be best to set up a YAHOO group. Not all of us have a need for your product, so why should we all receive your updates? - Too busy driving to stop

Re: ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
Dumb question you've already checked: is the appropriate esoteric defined with the correct address range? Tom Puddicombe Mainframe Performance Capacity Planning CSC North American Public Sector - Civil Group Computer Sciences Corporation Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo

Re: ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
John, Do you happen to have a TCDB as well (VTS)? I ran into a similar problem at DR and it turned out we had to EXPORT DISCONNECT the TCDB for the VTS. Then everything was good. Since we did not have a VTS in our DR contract, we needed to remove it from our DR environment at the hot site.

Re: Devserv Command

2008-02-18 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
In the REXX discussion group ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) there have been numerous discussions on how to issue commands and retrieve the output. It might be simpler to execute the command from a console and use SDSF to print the result to a dataset. -Original Message- From: RHK HK [mailto:snip]

Re: MFNetDisk bugs and status.

2008-02-18 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:33:11 + Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :My product can be used for free, so I feel a little freedom to mention my product. :Only the list moderator knows for sure, but I think it would be best to set up a YAHOO group. :Not all of us have a need for your

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:59:08 -0600, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:16 AM FWIW, there's a fair (and increasing) amount of z/OS written in C and/or C++. The SDK for Java immediately

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Now, does anybody know if C or C++ is used in the kernal of z/OS? When I first took a C++ course, I was told that it should not be used to write operating systems (too slow). But, I would like to know if C is used in the 'kernal'. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

RES: ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
John, And your VTS esoterics ? Libport-ID ? Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254/DPCD Alphaville Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 |-Mensagem original- |De:

Catch-22 question on SMP/E receive fromnts command

2008-02-18 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hi list. I have what is probably a dumb question but I've never done a receive across the internet before. I am trying to install java on z/OS 1.7. According to the documentation I need either ICSF or java already running on the box to get the hashes calculated. The doc further says that if I

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Mark S. Waterbury
C++ is a low-level language comparable to C, being only slightly higher-level than assembler or machine language. So, there is no technical reason why parts of an OS kernel (even the z/OS nucleus) could not be written in C++. It is well-documented that when IBM transitioned the AS/400 from

Re: ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: RES: ATL drive allocation problem. John, And your VTS esoterics ? Libport-ID ?

Re: ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas H Puddicombe Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ATL drive allocation problem. Dumb question you've already checked: is the

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Thomas David Rivers
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Linux zSeries questions FWIW, there's a fair (and increasing) amount of

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas David Rivers Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Linux zSeries questions [snip] I can say without fear of contridiction, but at the same

Re: ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
John I also have a VTS that works fine at home. But at the HOTSITE I have to remove the TCDB. Otherwise I get a similar error to what you experienced. Unless of course you have a VTS at the hotsite as well. Lizette John, Do you happen to have a TCDB as well (VTS)? I ran into a

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
C++ is a low-level language comparable to C, being only slightly higher-level than assembler or machine language. So, there is no technical reason why parts of an OS kernel (even the z/OS nucleus) could not be written in C++. Since C++ is the object oriented language and C is the procedural

Re: Catch-22 question on SMP/E receive fromnts command

2008-02-18 Thread Chase, John
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Re: Catch-22 question on SMP/E receive fromnts command

2008-02-18 Thread Chase, John
Rex, Try this jobstream (make appropriate substitutions): === //UNZIPEXEC PGM=GIMUNZIP,PARM='HASH=NO' //SYSUT3 DD UNIT=WORKDA,SPACE=(CYL,(50,10)) //SYSUT4 DD UNIT=WORKDA,SPACE=(CYL,(25,5)) //SMPOUT

Re: ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ATL drive allocation problem. John I also have a VTS that works fine at home. But at

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Mark S. Waterbury
C++ was intentionally developed by grafting on OO concepts to C, while still keeping the language at essentially the same level. In other words, you can still do pretty much the same kinds of low-level things in C++ that you could do in C. The main difference is, you can also use the OO

Re: most jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2964 to 2094 (HELP)

2008-02-18 Thread John Eells
Tommy Tsui wrote: hi all, we found that many jobs abended with 878-04 after upgrade CPU from 2064 to 2094 (first day batch) . There are no error when runnng on 2064 machine. any shop have this problem?? Is there any control-block changed after upgrade CPU??/ any comment will be appreciated

Re: Catch-22 question on SMP/E receive fromnts command

2008-02-18 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Thanks, Mark. Apparently JAVA is a prerequisite for using SMP/E receive fromnts according to the user's guide. The memo to user's extension and the internet delivery checklist seemed to indicate that the only reason for needing java was to do the hash checking and the receive would just keep

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-18 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 2/18/2008 11:18:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I THINK the difference arises because of the key. While many of us tend to ignore the key when referring to directory block, Seymour chooses NOT to ignore this value. I now see the source of the

Re: Catch-22 question on SMP/E receive fromnts command

2008-02-18 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Thanks again, Mark, Larry, and John. I downloaded the stand-alone JAVA and installed it. My receive job is now happily crunching along. Maybe someday I'll be able to repay some of the knowledge I've gleaned off this group. Rex You might want to try

Dynamic CDT Migration Experiences

2008-02-18 Thread Michael Cleary
Greetings, I am posting this to both the IBM-MAIN and RACF mailing lists in an attempt to reach as wide of an audience as possible. Sorry for the duplication. I am looking for feedback from anyone who has performed a migration from a static to a dynamic CDT in RACF. The only issue that I am

Re: SPAM: Re: COMPRESS QUESTION

2008-02-18 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- I now see the source of the communications problem, which was exacerbated by Seymour's predilection to post one-word cryptic replies or, in the case of his reply to my post, a riddle. The poster wrote Just to clarify: size of dir. block is always

Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-02-18 Thread Shane
R.S. (referring to Ed G) wrote: While I understand every single word, I don't understand what's your opinion. Your mastery of English is *not* the problem ... Making sense of Ed is beyond a good number (all ???) of us. Shane ...

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Shane
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 11:59 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Now, does anybody know if C or C++ is used in the kernal of z/OS? How about the OMVS kernel? The kernel is in C - with assembler for the performance critical bits. I've posted before about Linus derisive comments on suggestions of C++

Re: Dynamic CDT Migration Experiences

2008-02-18 Thread Roger Mihay
Hi Michael, Last December, I converted our ancient static RACF CDT to dynamic without any issues. IBM Level 2 (Russ Hargrove) sent me two REXX execs that were invaluable (CDT2DYN and DBSYNC). Roger On 2/18/08, Michael Cleary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I am posting this to both

Re: ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread Douglas Shupe
John, Older (really old) 3494 models had 4 drives per each Axx and Bxx CU (each group of 4 on it's own CUADD).Maybe? Doug - Original Message - From: McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:26 PM

Re: Catch-22 question on SMP/E receive fromnts command

2008-02-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:59:29 -0600, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Apparently JAVA is a prerequisite for using SMP/E receive fromnts according to the user's guide. The memo to user's extension and the internet delivery checklist seemed to indicate that the only reason for needing java was to do the hash

Re: ATL drive allocation problem.

2008-02-18 Thread Douglas Shupe
Correction, 4 devices per CU (not CUADD-had VTS in mind while typing) - Original Message - From: Douglas Shupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:57 PM Subject: Re: ATL drive allocation problem. John, Older

Re: Need TSO ISPF short cut commands

2008-02-18 Thread Liam Doherty
Hi you can run all of the editor commands as what are called Edit macros, which are scripts. There is a whole manual dedicated to edit and edit macros. For example this macro checks for EXEC SQL calls, then puts a variable on the profile pool to indicate thus: /* REXX */

Re: MFNetDisk bugs and status.

2008-02-18 Thread shai hess
HI, :Only the list moderator knows for sure, but I think it would be best to set up a YAHOO group. :Not all of us have a need for your product, so why should we all receive your updates? I never heard about someone in MF area (except IBM, EMC and HDS) that do not have need to easy and reliable

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:26:37 -0500, Thomas David Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also - you may want to look at z/VM; some of its kernel is written in C too. I believe if you have access to the z/VM source (I'm not sure if that's still made available) you'll find it. I can confirm that there

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-18 Thread Timothy Sipples
Yes, the various C/C++ compiler enhancements (Metal C, graphical workbench support in Rational Developer for System z, improved debugging, etc.) that recently shipped aren't only for external use. Although please enjoy them, too. Other bits I'd take an educated guess (without inside knowledge)