hi list,
any one is willing to answer a rookie's question:
How WLM recognize TSO's workload? like trivial TSO transaction, because I
can not see there's a *classification rule* defined for TSO.
like batch, stc, they have a rule...
I've got the same problem with two currently open etr's that contain a
sting of hex data. It is entirely viewable on 3270 IBMLINK however.
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Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President
Mainframe Services
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:01:13 -0400, Jousma, David wrote:
I've got the same problem with two currently open etr's that contain a
sting of hex data. It is entirely viewable on 3270 IBMLINK however.
Is that:
tn3270://ibmlink.advantis.com
... ? That tells me my ID has been revoked. I guess
Ted,
It's just showing that you have 2 additional candidate volumes
allocated. They have not yet been assigned.
It's a control block thing.
It doesn't cost anything; it can protect you from future growth problems.
The last two shops I worked at had 20 volumes allocated in most
dataclasses.
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:22:35 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
Assuming it is not intentional for some reason (panel ISRUAIP still exists
in hlq.SISPPENU) they should if the customer pushes for it. z/OS 1.7 doesn't
hit EOS (end of service) until September 2008. But there could be a reason
that IBM
It appears on the 1.7 system I am working on now, after getting a Data Set
List (=3.4) of a non-SMS dataset, that an S (Information - short) brings
up panel ISRUAIES and the **NONE** in MC and SC. However, I (Information)
brings up panel ISRUAIPO which does not display any SMS information.
Under
A question for IBMers who posted on this subject: Why the nice feature of
informing PARM=* to PSP tool to screen all target zones defined to the
Global CSI has been dropped from the new version ? (it ends in error).
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:15:18 -0500, Norbert Friemel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:22:35 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
Assuming it is not intentional for some reason (panel ISRUAIP still exists
in hlq.SISPPENU) they should if the customer pushes for it. z/OS 1.7 doesn't
hit EOS
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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:03 PM
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Subject: Link for I-Series?
Is there an equivalent list server for the AS/400 systems as we have
here
With no business need it might be a difficult sell at any price (other than
zero) but you can possibly use GCCMVS. It runs on MVS3.8j so it should run on
z/OS as well. It might be just producing 24 bit code but being open source you
can improve it.
Mohammad
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:47:26 -0500,
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:47:36 -0500, Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to this (somewhat old) redbook, the same amount of space is
used.
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246979.pdf
From the SMS enhancements chapter:
If a data set, with one primary and five candidate
You can get your ID unrevoked if you call the 800 number. They just wont
create new ID's anymore. Since the text was cutoff, I had to resort to
updating the PMR via the 3270 interface.
As a side-note, I attended the IBMLINK SHARE presentation, and the IBM
Program manager that owns IBMLINK
I am supporting the DMX3 Disk Array from EMC. We have been experienceing some
performance issues with our Timefinder Snap process.
According to EMC this issue occurred due to microcode level 5671. We did this
upgrade 18 months ago and just now saw this issue and got it resolved.
I am just
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:16:15 -0400, Jim Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Are all SVCDUMPS synchronous?
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2A870/20.1.2?SHELF=EZ2ZO10IDT=20060620155240
...
Thanks. That helps. But now, to really understand this, all I have to
do
There should be an entry available for the subsystem TSO in the 6.
Classification Rules of the WLM application unless someone at your shop
has deleted that entry for some unknown reason.
Tom Kelman
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632
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From: IBM Mainframe
I should have entered this on my previous response. When I go to 6.
Classification Rules on my WLM application I see the following. Note
the TSO entry at the bottom.
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Behalf Of McKown, John
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Link for I-Series?
SNIPAGE
Try this:
http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/
Very good people there!
Thanks Tom,
yes, I can see the same thing in my shop,too.
But, when I Browse the rule, there's nothing inside. Take JES as
example, when I browse it inside, there will be rules, I know, they are for
different type of batch, some will be indentified by TN, some maybe PFG,
or others Identifier.
Can
At one time I calculated the cost to be the same as the COBOL compiler.
We could not justified the cost of either compiler, so we route all of
compiler jobs to another data center that has all the compilers. They
charge us for both processor time and DASD, but that still only amounts
to pennies
Hi,
If a dataset spans multiple volumes, can you move one piece of it to
another volume ? or must you reorg the entire file ?
TIA
Dean
Dean Montevago
Sr. Systems Specialist
Visiting Nurse Service of New York
(212) 609 - 9608
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:04:44 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Is the rule correct that every case - with no exceptions - of a
forked/spawned address space has a single digit from 1 to 9 appended to the
job name?
No. Eight character jobnames are truncated to 7, and then the digit is
Hi,
Basic question.
When looking at
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/srm/
Processor version codes and SRM constants
Processor Model STIDP Type STSI Model Name #CPSU/SEC
2094-701 2094 (z9)701 129520.2952
2094-702 2094(z9)702 2 28368.7943
2094-7032094(z9)703 327538.7263
I conclude
Jan Vanbrabant wrote:
Hi,
Basic question.
When looking at
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/srm/
Processor version codes and SRM constants
Processor Model STIDP Type STSI Model Name #CPSU/SEC
2094-701 2094 (z9)701 129520.2952
2094-702 2094(z9)702 2 28368.7943
2094-7032094(z9)703
I admit that I have no experience with this. I am attempting to modify a
TSO command processor that I downloaded from IBM. I am adding a new
keyword at the end. I am failing at execution time with the messages:
IKJ56293I RACSEQ2 FAILED - PARSE SERVICE ROUTINE HAD AN INVALID INPUT
PARAMETER BLOCK+
On 27/03/2008, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I admit that I have no experience with this. I am attempting to modify a
TSO command processor that I downloaded from IBM. I am adding a new
keyword at the end. I am failing at execution time with the messages:
IKJ56293I RACSEQ2 FAILED -
sigh talking to myself and feeling old...
I found the problem. I had a parse validation check routine which was
returning an invalid return code, causing the PARSE to fail.
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Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:16:15 -0400, Jim Mulder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Every SVCDUMP sets the tasks in an address space nondispatchable
while dumping that address space. But for an asynchronous dump,
this is asynchronous with repsect to the unit of work which issued
the SDUMP macro.
...
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:30:34 -0500, McKown, John John.Mckown wrote:
sigh talking to myself and feeling old...
I found the problem. I had a parse validation check routine which was
returning an invalid return code, causing the PARSE to fail.
Earlier the same day, he wrote:
Any TSO gurus left
---snip---
I admit that I have no experience with this. I am attempting to modify a
TSO command processor that I downloaded from IBM. I am adding a new
keyword at the end. I am failing at execution time with the messages:
IKJ56293I RACSEQ2 FAILED - PARSE SERVICE
When you look at your own TSO address space in SDSF, what SERVICE CLASS is
showed ?
SYSOTHER ?
Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos
Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
Banco Bradesco S/A
4254/DPCD Alphaville
Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes
Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11
McKown, John wrote:
sigh talking to myself and feeling old...
I found the problem. I had a parse validation check routine which was
returning an invalid return code, causing the PARSE to fail.
You might think of removing explicit aliases DDN and DSN. IKJPARS will
recognize them as
Cobe,
If there are no rules specified then it appears your shop never set up
service classes for the TSO workload. Or else their there but were
never placed into the classification rule. That's not good. The system
will recognize the work as TSO and when it doesn't find a rule that
specifies a
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Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Help with TSO parsing?
McKown, John wrote:
sigh talking to myself and feeling old...
I
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2008
at 08:13 AM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I know the feeling. But we gotta' learn how to do
the new stuff on the mainframe, and let management
see it.
First you have to get management's permission.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and
Hi,
I am trying to make a cics access via terminal 3270, and I am receiving
the following error message.
DFHZC6907 I 03/27/2008 15:57:39 CICSDES Autoinstall starting for netname
L05DDE83. Network qualified name is
RTST.L05DDE83.
DFHZC6908 I 03/27/2008 15:57:39 CICSDES Autoinstall
A question for IBMers who posted on this subject: Why the nice feature of
informing PARM=* to PSP tool to screen all target zones defined to the
Global CSI has been dropped from the new version ? (it ends in error).
--
For
I don't really see where the problem is here. If there is only one TSO service
class, then no selection rules are needed, the default service class needs to
be specified, but no selection rules. That's how we are setup here.
Kelman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/27/2008 3:20 PM
Cobe,
If there
Cyrus Goodriver wrote:
A question for IBMers who posted on this subject: Why the nice feature of
informing PARM=* to PSP tool to screen all target zones defined to the
Global CSI has been dropped from the new version ? (it ends in error).
Weird! It appears I received this same message
Not sure, but that may have been Steve's point ;-)
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Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:16 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Is IT becoming extinct?
In [EMAIL
Yes, I agree. However, the default service class would also be
specified in the classification rule. Maybe I misunderstood, but I got
the impression that Cobe didn't see anything in his TSO classification
rule.
Cobe, is there a default service class specified in the TSO
classification rule? If
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:55:59 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
Cyrus Goodriver wrote:
A question for IBMers who posted on this subject
Weird! It appears I received this same message exactly 7 hours and 40
minutes ago. Is there something going on with a mail and.or list server?
It's in the
William:
Thank you for taking the time to give this a try. I had heard some horror
stories about TR performance being disappointing on some earlier Z/Arch
machines and I was wondering if it was pervasive. Obviously not.
Not to be a nit-picker, but the OP (Kirk Wolf) said, I'm looking for the
I don't know about the timing, but this is the second time I received this
message!
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Too busy driving to stop for gas!
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From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:55:59
To:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Enhanced PSP Compare Program
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2008
at 08:13 AM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I know the feeling. But we gotta' learn how to do
the new stuff on the mainframe, and let management
see it.
First you have to get management's permission.
Easier to
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/27/2008
10:27:40 AM:
Thanks Tom,
yes, I can see the same thing in my shop,too.
But, when I Browse the rule, there's nothing inside. Take JES as
example, when I browse it inside, there will be rules, I know, they are
for
Liz,
just how were the SNAPs affected ? do you have SRDF/A involved ?
- ravi.
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:29:51 -0400, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am supporting the DMX3 Disk Array from EMC. We have been experienceing
some performance issues with our Timefinder Snap process.
Provided there is an aggressive expiry plan set in the mgmtclas, and there's
healthy status of SCRATCH tapes.
in the several sites i've been, everyone's afraid to clear the archeological
dust - so they pile up causing grief to TMS.
- ravi.
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:25:47 -0500, Mark Zelden
We are snapping 198 volumes. For the past several months it has been taking
20 mins to snap. As of Feb 08 it took 40 mins to snap.
After EMC cleaned up some table it now runs in 14 Mins.
SRDF/A is not involved. We are snapping a source volume to another volume
on the string we call SNPxxx.
snip---
Easier to ask forgiveness that to ask permission.
---unsnip-
A big AMEN to that! Highly unfortunate, but true.
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HELIO wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to make a cics access via terminal 3270, and I am receiving
the following error message.
DFHZC6907 I 03/27/2008 15:57:39 CICSDES Autoinstall starting for netname
L05DDE83. Network qualified name is
RTST.L05DDE83.
DFHZC6908 I 03/27/2008 15:57:39
Not sure of our microcode level,.. But is your DMX used only for
Mainframe storage? We had an instance where our P Series processors
effected our mainframe storage performance.
--cut
I am supporting the DMX3 Disk Array from EMC. We have been
experienceing some performance issues with our
Hi Gil,
I would assume, like on some web screens we use here, that the text input
fields are not transparent. By that I mean the characters entered are treated
as HTTP control characters, or something like that.
I am trying to convince some of our local system builders that text input
fields
Also a good way to get fired when you have 'professional managers' more
interested in following change/control procedures than getting the job done. I
speak from experience.
From: Rick Fochtman [Subject: Re: Is IT becoming extinct?
Also a good way to get fired when you have 'professional managers' more
interested in following change/control procedures than getting the job done. I
speak from experience.
I am sorry, but I believe in change control.
If you can't follow them, it's your problem.
A process exists for a reason.
Thanks everyone's patience, I think I understand more now.
We do have an only one Service class for TSO, and in the classification
rule for TSO and with default SC is TSO.
WLM recognizes the workload from subsystem,too... All I thought was the
*Selection rule* inside is a MUST, because I thought
Many thanks to all who responded so helpfully on-list and off-list.
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Art Celestini wrote:
I'm convinced that TRE and TR are faster but it seems that
a truly fair comparison of solutions to the stated problem
should have included equivalent moves in the TRE and TR
solutions.
I did write and run versions with the code like that. And, I
said so:
|
William:
Thanks (again). I found these results most interesting.
Art
At 11:18 PM 3/27/2008, William H. Blair wrote:
Art Celestini wrote:
I'm convinced that TRE and TR are faster but it seems that
a truly fair comparison of solutions to the stated problem
should have included
I will be out of the office starting 03/28/2008 and will not return until
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I will respond to your message when I return. If this is an emergency you
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You missed the point.
The previous post to mine mentioned that's it's easier to say 'Sorry' than get
permission.
My post was meant to warn of the possible ramifications of taking that approach.
If I tried to describe the change control approach at my former shop, you most
likely would not
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