And I have installed BSA V4.2, Beta92 V4.3 and Beta91 V4.3 at the absolutely
highest level available and tested all three of them (albeit shortly) with all
dirty
getmain traps active. The Beta92/BSA Combo did not have a problem, but
then, I couldn't test much. It came through subsystem
Scott,
Has your Storage Vendor ever replaced a failed or failing drive? Do you know
where that drive is now?
I know of several customer that purchase and stored their failed drives because
they cannot be erased using commercial software once they stop working. I also
know of one customer that
Russell,
I'm not familiar with the wording of the standard, but it seems to me that
data at rest can be defined as data stored at its ultimate media location.
To this end data in cache, data in channels and memory, etc is not at rest
because it requires further handling or processing before it
User informed me late yesterday that they worked it out with a CLIST
containing LIBDEF statements. Asked me why that worked and frankly I can't
explain it. However, they are working and happy once more. Thanks big time
to all on this list who made suggestions and asked questions to make us look
Is it feasible to combine duplicate jobnames AND Internal reader?
I.E. All jobs have the same name.
Step 1 of Job AAA submits Job BBB
The step is always executed since there is nothing before it to abend and
BBB does not start since it has the same name and AAA is already active.
If Job AAA
Any suggestions on best way to cone 4 copies of a z/OS 1.10 system and
rename all the packs so each system has its own range of names.
System 1 has ZARESx etc, System 2 has ZBRESx etc and so on. I need to
have different pack names as these systems will run under z/VM and must
be linked to.
The
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:33:56 -, Mike Kerford-Byrnes wrote:
Is it feasible to combine duplicate jobnames AND Internal reader?
I.E. All jobs have the same name.
Step 1 of Job AAA submits Job BBB
The step is always executed since there is nothing before it to abend and
BBB does not start
Setup indirect cataloging of your datasets on the volumes and setup your
symbolic parameters in referencing the volumes.
Regards
Joaquim e Silva
z/OS System Programmer
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
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Sent:
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [On Behalf Of Shane
On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 17:16 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
there is folklore in the late 60s, about the cdc 6600 at berkeley
having
a thermal problem a little after 10am tuesday mornings (???) and
Hi Folks,
As a zOS syprog with 20+ years in MVS, I'm trying to find out if the products
that we used to use for control/monitoring/automation back in the day, are
still around now that we have gone/are going Distributed/Open Systems.
Well, not specifically if they are still around, I can see
Thanks Joaquim,
Am I right in saying, this would not work for VSAM files ?
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer
Macro 4
Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121, Switchboard: +44 (0)1293 872000, Fax:
+44 (0)1293 872001
Simply get more
www.macro4.com
Macro 4 plc Registered office:The Orangery,
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:31:43 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L veilleu...@aetna.com
wrote:
I kind of missed some of the posts for this, but if you really want them
to run one by one, you could give them their own job class and only
define one initiator for that class.
Covered in earlier messages, Jon.
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:57:04 -0600, Mark Zelden
mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote:
XCFLOCAL shouldn't matter. If you IPLed with new XCF couple data sets
and did not add any WLM couple data sets in COUPLExx, your sysplex
should also come up with the default policy. How would you bring up
a
That is correct. To move VSAM files, you have to back them up on the system
they are coming from, and then restore them to the pack they are going to, and
make sure they get catalogued in the proper catalog for that pack and system.
Eric
--
Eric Bielefeld
Systems Programmer
Washington
What vsam files would you want to keep on these res volumes?
Joaquim e Silva
z/OS System Programmer
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
We have just moved our consoles from 3x74 to osa-icc connection.
We ipled for the first time last night an I got a call that cics didn't
recognize
the consoles.
Can any one help me in the definiton of this type of console? In the iocds they
are defined as 3270-x, is this the only change I'll
If it is your CSI's the create volume specific datasets(include the
volser as part of the dsn, back them up and restore them on the pack
that you will be using and to the correct catalog that will be active on
the relevant system.
Regards
Joaquim e Silva
z/OS System Programmer
-Original
Do you have RACF turned on to your consoles, basically do you operators
need to sign on to use a console? I got burnt on that, I need to have them
defined to CICS the new names of the consoles and to RACF.
Andy S. White
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on
Kevin, Perhaps the DFSMS: Using the Volume Mount Analyzer provides
same/similar information. VMA is the tool that was heavily used back in early
TMM days.
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2v111/CONTENTS?
SHELF=EZ2ZO10L.bksDT=20070122215441#4.5
Mike Wood RMM
Yes, the operators must sign on to the consoles.thx
Mace
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Andy White awh...@metlife.com wrote:
Do you have RACF turned on to your consoles, basically do you operators
need to sign on to use a console? I got burnt on that, I need to have them
defined to CICS the
I would suggest that you check the console names you've given your new
consoles, and compare them to the names you used previously. The console
name I'm talking about is the NAME parameter of the CONSOLE statement in
SYS1.PARMLIB(CONSOLnn).
Maybe you gave your new ICC consoles new names, and
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:12:00 -0600, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:57:04 -0600, Mark Zelden
mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote:
XCFLOCAL shouldn't matter. If you IPLed with new XCF couple data sets
and did not add any WLM couple data sets in COUPLExx, your sysplex
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote:
Are there partial SHARE membership options? Can one purchase the
proceedings DVD for a price without being a member?
That's the question I was asking.
I don't know. Why not become a member?
Because
I'm installing z/OS 1.10 using the Internet download instead of tapes. Due
to the way that things are, the only option that I had was to download the
files to my Windows desktop, then ftp upload them to a z/OS UNIX directory.
Not really too bad. However, when I ran the installation dialog, the JCL
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:12:30 - Crispin Hugo crispin.h...@macro4.com
wrote:
:Any suggestions on best way to cone 4 copies of a z/OS 1.10 system and
:rename all the packs so each system has its own range of names.
:System 1 has ZARESx etc, System 2 has ZBRESx etc and so on. I need to
:have
With all of the orders I have done using internet download, the directory
was just the order number. I.E. OS119023
Patti Neuman OCM BOCES CNYRIC
Sr. Systems Programmer PO Box 4866
Technical Support Syracuse,
That is correct. To move VSAM files, you have to back them up on the system
they are coming from, and then restore them to the pack they are going to, and
make sure they get catalogued in the proper catalog for that pack and system.
Is that still true with ICF catalogues?
All the descriptors
One of my sysprogs allocated a file on all LPARs. His intent was to have an
uncataloged file on SYSnR2, where n is the LPAR ID.
That worked on 3 out of 4 LPARs. On the fourth LPAR SMS directed the allocation
to a SMS managed pool.
//ALLOC1EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//SIXMEXP DD DSN=SYS1.SIXMEXP,
The reason I need to be able to link to them and have them with
different VOLSER's is so I can back them up from our main Z1.10 system
that has the ATL
. It already uses ZA pack names
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer, Macro 4
http://www.macro4.com/
The original idea was to find and easy/quick/safe way to clone systems
with the 23 packs that are SYSRES , TARGET, DISTRIBUTIO JES/PAGING
WebSphere DB2/IMS Cics etc etc etc.
So there are some, thou not too many VSAM files. Paging, SMS, CSI etc.
I see now that I would be able quite easily to
Thanks for the quick reply. In reading defining mcs consoles to cics it says
to give it the 8 character name of the console from the consolxx parmlib
member. But in the mvs init and tuning guide it said the name could be 2-8
characters so I only made it 7. Is cics going to regurgitate the 7
So there are some, thou not too many VSAM files. Paging, SMS, CSI etc.
Why VSAM?
It's not difficult with ICF catalogues.
You don't require the catalogue to describe the dataset.
I've moved them around and re-catalogued them.
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
Ted,
You recon if I just rename packs and re-catalog the VSAM datasets, then
that will do ?
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer, Macro 4
http://www.macro4.com/
Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS
Direct Line: +44 (0)1293 872121 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1293 872000
Fax:
Maybe it was re-classified in a later (STORCLAS or MGMTCLAS) ACS routine.
Clifford McNeill
All ideas and suggestions welcome.
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Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync.
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:08:50 +, Jim McAlpine
jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote:
...
Are there partial SHARE membership options? Can one
purchase the proceedings DVD for a price without being a
member?
...
That's the question I was asking.
Well, on the SHARE website under Trial Membership is
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:46:32 -0500, O'Brien, David W. wrote:
One of my sysprogs allocated a file on all LPARs. His intent was to have an
uncataloged file on SYSnR2, where n is the LPAR ID.
That worked on 3 out of 4 LPARs. On the fourth LPAR SMS directed the
allocation to a SMS managed pool.
...
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:08:50 +, Jim McAlpine
jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there partial SHARE membership options? ...
That's the question I was asking.
You may be able to get a SHARE userid and password without
being a SHARE member. I think that used to be available but I'm
not
I think if you enclose it with tics, it's treated as a literal.
Greg
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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject:
Ted,
You recon if I just rename packs and re-catalog the VSAM datasets, then that
will do ?
I've done it years ago.
We had a catalogue go bad, so I found all the VSAM datasets, uncatalogued them,
re-defined the catalogue/aliases, and re-catalogued.
I'm not exactly sure when, but my older son
Scott T. Harder
Tech Support Product Development
ASPG, Inc.
Ph: 239-649-1548 / Ext. 203
Fax: 239-649-6391
General Support Email: aspgt...@aspg.com
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Sent: Wednesday,
Ron,
Can't disagree with a thing you said. Not sure where I've argued to the
other side of any of this.
Thanks!
Scott T. Harder
Tech Support Product Development
ASPG, Inc.
Ph: 239-649-1548 / Ext. 203
Fax: 239-649-6391
General Support Email: aspgt...@aspg.com
-Original
Tom,
As I said in the original post, I test for anyvol = sys%r% and if true exit the
routine.
What other Exit would override this?
Regards,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom
Clifford,
How would Storclas or Mgmtclas routines assign a Dataclas?
Regards,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Clifford McNeill [sy...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:12
Resurrecting this one I have changed the DSN17 field to HEXZEROS and run
CTSSYNC against the volumes which does indeed clear the error status but TMS
appears to continue to reject the volumes when it has the occasion to write
to them again.
I have another open ticket with CA pending, just
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
Ted,
You recon if I just rename packs and re-catalog the VSAM datasets, then that will do ?
I've done it years ago.
We had a catalogue go bad, so I found all the VSAM datasets, uncatalogued them,
re-defined the catalogue/aliases, and re-catalogued.
I'm not exactly sure
You'll get the error that DSN17 doesn't match the internal label on the
volume.
You can either restore the DSN17 field in TMS - or reinitialize the
volume.
Jay Campbell
IBM OS Support Section
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf
Greg,
Thank you. I will remove the tics.
However the question remains as to why the allocation worked as intended in one
LPAR and not the other.
Regards,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
All right, let's quit fumbling around.
It is the assignment of a valid storage class which determines the dataset
is going to SMS managed volumes. Data class and Management class have no
bearing on this problem.
I would examine the STORCLAS routine on the aberrant system to figure out
why the
What level of CA1 software are you on?
I was told I needed a couple of fixes on CA1 to alleviate my tape error issue.
So I am going form R11.5 SP2 to R11.5 SP4.
The fix they recommended was on SP3 QO86760
Lizette
Resurrecting this one I have changed the DSN17 field to HEXZEROS and run
I think the OP would want to use the special dataset name TMSTPINIT.INIT
or something like that to have CA1 ignore any mismatch between the TMC and
the tape label.
Regards,
John
Campbell Jay james.l.campb...@irs.gov
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02/12/2009 03:26
Thank You Matthew, the absence of an exclusion in the Storclas routine
apparently was at the root of the problem, along with having Sys%r% enclosed in
apostrophes.
The allocations are now working as desired.
I'm still at a loss to explain the inconsistency but it now works so time to
move on.
This is different then renaming the volume the VSAM dataset is on. I haven't
tried this, but I seem to remember that it isn't
supported.
Okay!
I think it is.
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
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For IBM-MAIN subscribe /
This isn't going to improve your track record, Ted.
Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 2/12/2009 4:03 PM
This is different then renaming the volume the VSAM dataset is on. I haven't
tried this, but I seem to remember that it isn't
supported.
Okay!
I think it is.
-
Too busy driving to stop for
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:44:14 -0600, Rob Lister
rob.lis...@aciworldwide.com wrote:
A lot of the products I used, Omegamon, Netview, OPC, etc have now
all been rebranded as Tivoli so pretty much every site I come across
has Tivoli. Does that mean they just have one or two products and
I don't understand your comment.
You can/i have renamed/moved VSAM datasets withouit touching the catalogue.
The descriptors are in the VTOC/VVDS/VTOCIX.
Why do I need to use the catalogue?
I've done it.
Need I say more?
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From: Scott Rowe
Sender: IBM Mainframe
Prove me wrong.
Copy a VSAM dataset.
Uncatalogue it.
Copy to a new pack, and a new high-level!
Tell me I can't re-catalogue it.
Something to show it can't be done.
Show me where, if the catalogue or the dsn is different, is not able to be done.
I've done the following:
Uncatalogue VSAM
Undefine
Dave,
You are right, they couldn't. I should have looked before I typed.
Cliff
From DFSMS Storage Administration Reference
Each ACS routine can set only its corresponding read-write variable:
The data class routine can set only DATACLAS.
The storage class routine can set only STORCLAS.
We have six zos 1.7 systems three on a z890 and three on a z9 we have applied
the toleration for the z10 on the z890 systens since we will be replacing the
z890 with the z10 all six
Systems are in a sysplex do we have to apply the z10 maintenance onto the z9
zos 1.7 systems
Sent via BlackBerry
For starters, how do you expect to rename an uncataloged VSAM dataset?
Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 2/12/2009 4:55 PM
Prove me wrong.
Copy a VSAM dataset.
Uncatalogue it.
Copy to a new pack, and a new high-level!
Tell me I can't re-catalogue it.
Something to show it can't be done.
Show me
ISPF 3.4
Again, rather than b**ch, show me an example where it doesn't work.
I'm no longer at the company where I did this 20 years ago.
But, we hasd to do it to recover in an emergency.
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
-Original Message-
From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com
Date:
Well, I hate to argue with Ted as he's more often correct than not.
But, if it's a SMS managed volume, uncataloged is out. Even when you
somehow get a dataset on an SMS volume in an uncataloged state, it hard
to do anything with it.
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State
Well, I hate to argue with Ted as he's more often correct than not.
Thank you for that.
But, if it's a SMS managed volume, uncataloged is out.
That is correct, and a different story.
Even when you somehow get a dataset on an SMS volume in an uncataloged state,
it hard
to do anything with it.
VSAM data set organization is not supported for this function.
Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca 2/12/2009 5:33 PM
ISPF 3.4
Again, rather than b**ch, show me an example where it doesn't work.
I'm no longer at the company where I did this 20 years ago.
But, we hasd to do it to recover in an
VSAM data set organization is not supported for this function.
Ok.
I'm not 100% sure about renaming.
If I made a mistake, I'm sorry.
But, re-cataloguing works.
That much I know for sure.
My only point was, you do NOT have to redefine a VSAM file, to re-catalogue it.
Everything else is noise.
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:45:16 -0800, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
... There are even a few hand's in opportunities (noted
as such in the session titles) that provide an opportunity to
help shape IBM's direction without the need for those pesky
formal requirements. ...
As
In a message dated 2/12/2009 5:52:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,
patrick.oke...@wamu.net writes:
SHARE - my last chance to snub and be snubbed. So if you are
running short of snubees, just look for me.
I've still got the templates for the ibm-main stickers if there's a need for
more.
I can't make it, if someone would pick me up a snubbed sticker, it'd
be real nice. I might be able to make it the next time it's in Seattle.
I can drive there and even stay with friends.
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University
-Original Message-
From:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:06:04 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
VSAM data set organization is not supported for this function.
Ok.
I'm not 100% sure about renaming.
If I made a mistake, I'm sorry.
But, re-cataloguing works.
That much I know for sure.
My only point was, you do NOT
Everyone's talking about SHARE in AUSTIN.
Great. Wish I could go.
But SHARE is coming to Denver in August (23-28). Where we
live. We've already volunteered to give sessions and we've
talked with the SHARE staff about helping with local
volunteering.
Those of you on the list from the Front
Well, I may have exagerated. I can't really promise perks for
work. Hope ya' all know that was just an expression. But
SHARE has historically been open to being responsive to those
who volunteer. So I hope we can get a large turn out from the
local folks, and I wanted to make sure it was on your
Hi Steve,
my current plan is to attend SHARE in Denver.
Regards
Roland
Everyone's talking about SHARE in AUSTIN.
Great. Wish I could go.
But SHARE is coming to Denver in August (23-28). Where we
live. We've already volunteered to give sessions and we've
talked with the SHARE staff about
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