Re: VSAM Linear Dataset n00b question

2007-08-06 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 8/6/2007 8:40:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is not generally available. It costs a TON of cash and is only distributed under an NDA, if I remember what others have said. I have heard that is costs several hundred thousand U.S. dollars,

Re: Why is HSA so ridiculous on a z9 at z/OS V1R8?

2007-08-06 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 8/6/2007 12:50:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The HSA 'space' increase from z900 to z990 is being caused by 1) new function support 2) support for non-disruptive ( no POR ) addition of all engines/books. I would assume that the z9 is

Re: What's the new support for large files called?

2007-08-03 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 8/3/2007 12:52:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Check out this manual for a good description of large format datasets. z/OS DFSMS: Using the New Functions Document Number SC26-7473-02 A later version is available now dated SEP 06 -

Re: Think your an expert with MVS Diagnostic tools? Programmed in Assembler? ...

2007-07-26 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
Nobody else has brought this up yet, so I will. Was this job opportunity posting approved by Darren? Or is it spam? Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Doesn't anybody ask a question that's not on a press release handout anymore? [24 JUL 2007; George Ure]

Re: rotational position sensing (RPS)

2007-07-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
Careful reading of the 2105 Command Reference doc shows that valid sector numbers are not documented as being ignored. I take that to mean they are used as documented; i.e., the next action on the track will commence with track orientation at a predictable position on the track. If the

Re: Is a page protected?--how to determine

2007-07-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/24/2007 1:33:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a need to determine if an address in storage is page protected in order to determine if a PGSER UNPROTECT needs to be done. One way, not necessarily the most elegant, is to establish an

Re: Is a page protected?--how to determine

2007-07-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/24/2007 10:56:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: very bad idea in general. if the page is not protected, then you don't know what other processes are updating that page nor how they serialize their updates. the OI is not an interlocked update and

Re: Rotational Positional Sensing (RPS)

2007-07-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/24/2007 11:16:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -snip Does anyone know for sure which was the last DASD subsystem that cared about Rotational Positional Sensing (RPS) values?

Re: Is a page protected?--how to determine

2007-07-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/24/2007 11:14:10 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because the fetch and the store are separated in time. Another CPU or an I/O operation can store into the byte *after* your CPU fetches the byte but *before* your CPU stores the byte. The other CPU

Re: Rotational Positional Sensing (RPS)

2007-07-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/24/2007 1:12:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Using a sector number of x'00' effectively disabled RPS on devices that did care. Not true. It forces the controller to position the track at index point, the very beginning of the track. A

Re: Rotational Positional Sensing (RPS)

2007-07-24 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/24/2007 1:43:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually x'00' disconnects until position is just before index point so the following search Id starts with index point count at 1, maximum scan for the Id will be one revolution till next time

Re: EBCDIC to HEX translation in Assembler?

2007-07-23 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/23/2007 9:11:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wouldn't this just be the PACK command? Not sufficient. Are you needing it in binary or Packed Decimal? OP wants it translated to the real hex number. Without any further technical

Re: Think your an expert with MVS Diagnostic tools? Programmed in Assembler? ...

2007-07-23 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/23/2007 2:31:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: H. ISTR that IBM has a DFSMS lab in sunny Tucson, Arizona.. Don't know about the software, but Tucson is where IBM develops its DASD control units. I would have thought DFSMS would

Re: Rotational Positional Sensing (RPS)

2007-07-23 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/23/2007 7:16:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I assume RPS sector numbers are *ignored* for ESS and newer devices. Some are definitely NOT ignored and some other values may be ignored. The ones that are not ignored are the ones that are

Re: OT Fits all of us

2007-07-22 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/21/2007 11:12:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How many group members does it take To change a lightbulb? There are at least three other categories of posters. (1) Five group members will discuss the entire history of the lightbulb industry

Re: a

2007-07-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/20/2007 9:25:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack Kelly wrote: a b I'm not totally sure about this, but I think that Ed's reply of b may be off topic. :-) I also suspect this is a good thread for Friday grins and not much else. Bill

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-17 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/12/2007 3:26:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah err, well, we have an old Adabas application with 3380 emulation on 2105. This will be moot after 11/30/07. ... Now the whole kit is going the way of outsourcing. Outsourcing the whole kit

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-17 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/13/2007 7:24:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know shop in Poland which used 3380 drives. *Real* ones, manufactured by Comparex. I believe Hitachi Data Systems manufactured them and Comparex marketed them in Europe for HDS. Bill

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-17 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/16/2007 11:11:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: U.S. Government budgets are quite often penny-wise and pound-foolish. Money won't be spent to upgrade to 3390-type geometry because competent people that can do that sort of work well simply won't

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-17 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/12/2007 2:39:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... do access methods have calculations built in for allowing for the gaps? Yes. Modern physical DASD is made by Seagate, IBM, et al, they are 3.5 inches in diameter, they are controlled as RAID,

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size

2007-07-17 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/17/2007 6:25:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a LOT of code still supporting the CKD structure and CKD gaps that have not existed for perhaps 15 years now. My bad. I just remembered that there are still some data centers that use

Re: Track size and maximum single volume data set size (was: Deleted PDS)

2007-07-12 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/12/2007 1:36:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do we still keep the ~55k track size and increase only the number of cylinders? With modern DASD subsystems it shouldn't matter, right? What are the track size limits in z/OS? I guess it's 64k,

Re: FW: Deleted PDS

2007-07-11 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/11/2007 5:53:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I located the PDS at location ** TRACK(CCHH) 1A58 R0 DATA COUNT 1A58010005A0 6CD385A3 40E2A8A2 7EE5C1E3 5E404040 40404040 40404040 40404040 40404040 0020

Re: FW: Deleted PDS

2007-07-11 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/11/2007 10:33:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PRIMARY SPACE EXCEEDS 65535 TRKS Size is limited to 64 tracks, but not position on the volume. You obviously meant 64K tracks. The position on the volume is irrelevant if you allocate the PDS

Re: the USS heresy

2007-07-11 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/11/2007 10:59:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please kill this thread. Amen, brother! Say Hallelujah! Perhaps the true believers [1] and heretics [2] could continue their discussions about that three-letter string only with each other and

Re: FW: Deleted PDS

2007-07-11 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/11/2007 11:25:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't know that ABSTR could be used to allocate a PDS. Was I wrong?? The fact that the JCL Reference book has the following text means this combination is supported:

Re: FW: Deleted PDS

2007-07-11 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/11/2007 12:03:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SPACE=(ABSTR,(primary=qty,address[,directory]}. The author of this text omitted a necessary right parenthesis. And I couldn't even correctly copy the incorrect text. I meant

Re: MCMG Meeting in Chicago Next Wednesday

2007-07-11 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/11/2007 12:43:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you aren't familiar with Ray's work and presentations over the years, this is a treat. The other speaker, Glenn Anderson, is also an excellent speaker who does a lot of technical training. I

Re: 3390 Model 27

2007-07-11 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/11/2007 2:05:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the DR site has sufficient tape drives, you could do 9 concurrent restores of -3s versus 1 restore of a -27. Assuming that the restore software uses maximally shrunk extents in their Define

Re: Deleted PDS

2007-07-09 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/9/2007 8:50:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1INDDDSN=SYS1.PARMLIB.AEPLEX07,DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // VOL=SER=SYI07A,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=6160,RECFM=FB,UNIT=SYSALLDA, //

Re: 3390 Model 27

2007-07-09 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/9/2007 1:37:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are we creating new terminology? I assume a MOD15 is 15 GB? Close. Mod 1 (aka 3390-1) has 1113 cylinders. Mod 3 has 3x1113=3339 cylinders. Mod nn has nnx1113 cylinders. Therefore mod 15 has

Re: 3390 Model 27

2007-07-09 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/9/2007 2:37:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Therefore mod 15 has 15x1113=16695 cylinders = 250425 tracks = ca. 14 190 082 200 bytes = . Alas, my poor attempt to send a post that is continent- and culture-invariant with respect to writing

Re: mark load module non-executable

2007-07-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/8/2007 10:20:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: someone who watches examination candidates to prevent cheating :-) For this and all future unknown English words, try the Online Merriam-Webster English-English dictionary at

Re: Navigating the control block maze

2007-07-01 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
There was a lot of discussion of this same issue within the last year. Check the IBM-MAIN archives. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For

Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)

2007-06-30 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/30/2007 11:34:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: an IBM developer has, in effect, had to rap the redbook authors on the knuckles for talking about an unofficial command thereby indicating how the redbook authors are independent of IBM

Re: Utility to print tracks

2007-06-28 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/27/2007 2:15:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IAC, you should be able to use either AMASPZAP[1] or ICKDSF. [1] Perhaps not for VSAM. I tried to print a VSAM data set once with AMASPZAP, and, IIRC, it didn't work. Whatever you print with

Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes

2007-06-25 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/25/2007 10:27:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it is often true that - if the social side is done right - the best help comes from fellow users who've been through the same problems. And often the fastest. There's no bureaucracy involved. Of

Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes

2007-06-25 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/25/2007 2:15:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe the diagnosis is rectocephaly. I always thought it was CAIS (Cranial-Anal Insertion Syndrome). Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's free

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-22 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/21/2007 8:14:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So the operators used to put DEBE in and let it crank the meter while they played hearts, but management was happy that they used 4-5 hours of machine time. I wouldn't do it and got called on the

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-22 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/22/2007 11:13:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... and thereby put the wait light out[1]. Having been brought up with DOS (the original DOS), and, generally, S/360 Model 30s, I was used to knowing how busy the machine was by observing the

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/21/2007 10:40:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The use of the 2702 prepare command for terminal I/O would effectively suspend I/O and the system meter would stop. This is fascinating history, Lynn. I remember using the Prepare command in

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/21/2007 11:29:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think you are referring to ASPEN? It was killed. That's the one. I didn't remember its name until your post. The only detail I heard was that Tom Simpson, the ex-IBMer who was the original

Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

2007-06-15 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:51 PM, FRASER, Brian wrote: What mainframe software did CA originally develop? In a message dated 6/14/2007 10:11:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My vague recollection was the cobol optimizer capex. I could be wrong its been ages and ages.

Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-15 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/15/2007 8:27:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On July 6, 1966, the name SMF - System Management Facility - was picked in a brainstorming session. The philosophy of the project was that IBM would provide a way to collect data, but the customer

Re: BLDL question

2007-06-15 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/14/2007 5:47:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... BLDL section states that When the system returns control to the problem program, the low-order byte of register 15 contains a return code. The low-order byte of register 0 contains a reason

Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

2007-06-14 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/14/2007 1:31:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CA acquired ASM2 so long ago that I forgot where they got it from - but I don't think CA was the original developer. UCCEL acquired ASM2 on DEC 1985 from Cambridge Systems, which was somewhere in

Re: IBM discoveries Charge Back...

2007-06-14 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/14/2007 3:50:56 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just before another group took over SMF processing we acquired a package that put to shame anything on the market (then and now), unfortunately it is probably defunct. I don't know since then if

Re: Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules

2007-06-14 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/14/2007 8:19:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The person I dealt with was Shawn Mcclaren (sp?) and I am pretty sure he was on the west coast as seemed to take the red eyes quite a bit. I remembered the name CSG earlier but had forgotten

Re: Hollerith anniversary

2007-06-09 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/8/2007 7:52:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow, what are you trying to do Bill? Make those of us who started in this business using punch cards feel like old geezers. I'm an old geezer, too. I started programming in October 1965. My S/360

Hollerith anniversary

2007-06-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
According to Wikipedia's On this day..., Herman Hollerith received a patent for his punch card calculator on this day (8 June) in 1887. Go, Herman!! I still have a handful of blank cards that I liberated from a service bureau ca. 1985. I use them sometimes to write notes to myself

Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-07 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/7/2007 2:27:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trace interrupt processing simply changes CR 12 to point to the beginning of the next buffer for that CPU. There is no copying done at this point. Ah, that makes more sense that my guess as to how

Re: 3390B DASD IFCC Reason Code 84

2007-06-06 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/5/2007 10:55:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not been able to find command descriptions for the CCW commands 4B, A5, A6, or E7 when accessing DASD. 4B is Locate Record Extended. It is documented in the 3990 and 2105 Control Unit

Re: Where is storage taken for System Trace Table?

2007-06-06 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/6/2007 11:41:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Schramm, Rob wrote: When I change the size of the System Trace Table (i.e. TRACE ST,512K), where is the storage taken from? Common Name: Master Trace Table Mapping Macro Alas, the Master

Principles of Operation in pop American English?

2007-06-01 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
A lighten-up topic for Friday which was, like, inspired by conversations with, like, my 8- and 11-year-old grandsons who are currently, like, visiting with us. What if the dry, sometimes boring Principles of Operation had been written in the pop American style of spoken English? We

Re: Questions to the list

2007-06-01 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/1/2007 12:16:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those 50 experienced people COULD just let the post sit out on the listserv for a day or two (or more) to quietly give the hint to the original poster. Ah, now you're dabbling in the psychology

Re: Questions to the list

2007-06-01 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/1/2007 12:35:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there is some balance between answering questions where the askee has actually made some attempt to learn something ... or is using the list in lieu of having to learn anything. For one person's

Re: Questions to the list

2007-06-01 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/1/2007 12:53:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: us greybeards, all too soon to be whitebeards, are the only teachers left to pass on these skills My current colleagues and I affectionately refer to each other as silverbacks. :-) Bill

IBM lays off 1,573 employees

2007-05-31 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
Most from IBM's Services Unit in North America. _http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132391-c,workplace/article.html_ (http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132391-c,workplace/article.html) Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL As we know, civilization would devolve into chaos if the United States

Re: GSF - is well known

2007-05-29 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
Gilbert is well known (and appreciated) in these parts. If you've ever used showmvs/zos you owe Gilbert (in addition to Roland) a large vote of thanks. Not to mention his other contributions - see the cbt index. Shane ... I believe Gilbert has also done work for Barry Merrill, which is

Re: Why is there JOB scope for DSN ENQ's anyway?

2007-05-26 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/25/2007 9:27:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bblack (I think): That There is no easy way that I know to determine if the current step is the last step that uses the dataset claim conflicts with your then releases the dataset at the end of

Re: Why is there JOB scope for DSN ENQ's anyway?

2007-05-26 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/26/2007 1:53:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good idea. I'll ask my admins to add to my (and other users') TSO logon PROCs DD statements for data set names that we're likely to allocate dymamically in our TSO sessions. So far, I thought this

Re: DASD Compression Question

2007-05-25 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/25/2007 8:23:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depending on your actual spinning DASD, compression may be counter productive for actual disk utilization. It can save logical space and cache space but if the controller is compressing the data in

Re: Why is there JOB scope for DSN ENQ's anyway?

2007-05-25 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/25/2007 5:09:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That There is no easy way that I know to determine if the current step is the last step that uses the dataset claim conflicts with your then releases the dataset at the end of the last step that

Re: 3350 failures

2007-05-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/17/2007 3:30:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 17 May 2007 15:01:48 -0400, William Donzelli wrote: I have a lead on a few 3350s - obsolete, but that is the point What point its that? By today's standards they are very slow. And

Re: 3350 failures

2007-05-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/21/2007 1:02:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will a 3880 with proper microcode control 3350s? Yes. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped

2007-05-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/17/2007 2:08:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the number is meaningless until you know what it is measuring, even if it is accurate. Of course, there's no reason to believe that it's accurate. See the 16 MAY 2007 Dilbert for additional info on

Re: Delete invalid dataset name

2007-05-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/21/2007 3:18:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How might we delete this little bugger? SYS1.DFDSS.DEFRAG..PRD9LF.DUMMY An untested suggestion: Try IMASPZAP with //SYSLIB DD DSN=FORMAT4.DSCB,DCB=KEYLEN=44,vol=ser=whatever CCHHR

Re: LRECL of Spanned Records

2007-05-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/16/2007 5:37:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 32K limit is driven by the fact this binary integer is considered Signed; so instead of 0 thru 65535 it's -32767 thru 32768 The last 8 bytes are lost to track marks and block marks reserved

Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT

2007-05-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/21/2007 5:53:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not enough to use a JES3 prefix character; he needs to use JES3 syntax. From the IBM MVS System Commands book (SA22-7627-14): For devices managed by JES3, issue a *VARY command instead of

Re: Where did the term clip come from?

2007-05-11 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/11/2007 10:24:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, I think it was because a DASD label could be UPDATED IN PLACE, as opposed to CREATED. You either create a volume label on the label track when there is no label record there in the first

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-08 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/7/2007 10:19:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... we need to cut ceo compensation by 90% in this country... Who is we and how do we do that? Pass a law? With or without 100 pages of fine print? Who enforces it? How do we keep him from

Re: BLKSIZE parm of DCB macro(QSAM locate mode)

2007-05-04 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/4/2007 9:11:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The second is concerning the minimal physical unit a program can process on zos. I know acess method macros like QSAM are still at the high level. From what you told me, I guess the minimal unit QSAM

Re: File concatenations

2007-05-03 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Assuming the following JCL: //DD1 DD DSN=dsname1,disp=shr // DD DSN=dsname2,disp=shr // DD DSN=dsname3,disp=shr Where DD1 is opened for input. All files are on DASD. How can I tell when dsname1

Re: Interpreting output of STIDP

2007-05-02 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/2/2007 12:04:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I read this to mean that in a multiple CP CEC, STIDP will store a '1'b in bit 48, indicating this is a CEC identification, not a single CP identification. In this case, you need to use the STAP

Re: latest Principles of Operation

2007-04-28 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/27/2007 5:28:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless you have gotten so old you can't remember what your own code does. I have had that problem since way before I got old (or at least older). The two main reasons why I write lots of comments

Re: Latest Principles of Operation

2007-04-25 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/25/2007 1:41:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the new instructions, I now count 751 instructions documented in the POO. That's up a lot from the (IIRC) 143 for S/360. I do something similar, but less time-consuming. I look at the number

Re: The Death of the Mainframe (?)

2007-04-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/20/2007 6:45:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't Data dead? Don't know, but it is way past time for this thread to die. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Today it's oil, right? ... Ask them when they're running out. Ask them when there's no

Re: Box serial#

2007-04-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/20/2007 11:03:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any macro to retrieve DASD box serial #? Yes. Use UCBINFO with the GETCDR parameter. This will return to your program the Configuration Data Record (CDR). It will be 256 bytes long.

Re: Box serial#

2007-04-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/20/2007 11:03:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any macro to retrieve DASD box serial #? Forgot to add that the 256 bytes are described under the Read Configuration Data command in the control unit book. I think you want NED 4 on a

Re: CACHEFASTWRITE

2007-04-19 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/19/2007 2:39:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as I can see the CFW commands always apply to the whole subsystem, and have never applied to a single volume. My past experience is that subsystem means the whole Storage Controller. My

Re: CACHEFASTWRITE

2007-04-19 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/19/2007 9:19:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: commit is one of them that will force the destage of tracks to disk. I am 99.99% sure this is not true in HDS RAID, and I'd wager a few bucks that EMC and IBM do not honour a request like this

Re: CACHEFASTWRITE

2007-04-19 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/19/2007 11:54:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't follow you here Bill. Of course the control unit doesn't know about any logical data structures. It does, however, have to keep track of where all data is located. If there is a copy

Re: The Sky is indeed Falling

2007-04-18 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/18/2007 1:23:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 41. Beginning with IBM's introduction in 1964 of its S/360 line of mainframe computers and operating systems, and continuing with subsequent model lines, IBM freely and broadly disseminated the

Re: CACHEFASTWRITE

2007-04-18 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/18/2007 1:30:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you sure, John? I seem to remember that CFW was boxen-wide, but DASDFASTWRITE (DFW) was logical-device-wide. The 3990/9390 reference manual, under the topic Set Subsystem Mode command, shows

Re: Maximum PS dataset size

2007-04-17 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:42:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Version 8 of the SAS System, extended sequential data set format cannot be read or written using EXCP (Execute Channel Program) processing on disk. As a result, SAS data libraries in that

Re: Flex, Hercules, mainframe future and IBM annual meeting

2007-04-17 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/17/2007 9:13:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's true! I guess I need to make up some protest signs, Hercules NOW, and schedule a day of vacation. Also, if you own at least one share of stock, they will mail you information about the

Re: Flex, Hercules, mainframe future and IBM annual meeting

2007-04-17 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:59:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Knoxville Tennessee, are you show about that? You should be able to verify on IBM's website. If I owned one share, I would seriously think about going. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL

Re: Question on DASD Hardware

2007-04-13 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/13/2007 2:35:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have heard that a CE has to replace at least 1 disk per month on some of these boxes. (DMX3000 - EMC, DS8000 - IBM, etc) That appears to be awfully frequent. Lynn Wheeler posted this

Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes are features, not b...

2007-04-13 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/13/2007 3:55:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the application crashes reported as flaws are actually by design. Working as coded! ROTFLMAO. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL The correct use of language must begin at the very top of

Re: Are there standard IBM dsects for the P-L-O functions that require one?

2007-04-12 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/12/2007 9:37:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because it's an instruction, not a service. Hardware engineers don't write dsects. However, IBM's software people have written DSECTs for many hardware structures (aka control blocks), such as

Re: IBM IOSCDR service or way to find if OFFLINE volume exists from z/OS

2007-04-12 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/12/2007 1:57:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am trying to determine if an OFFLINE volume exists without trying to VARY it on-line. Build a subroutine to do one I/O to a device, whose device number is passed as a parameter, using STARTIO or

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-04-04 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/4/2007 7:42:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Online Software International is not the same company as Optimum Systems Inc. They had nothing to do with SuperWylbur®. Where they means Online Software International. Bill Fairchild Plainfield,

Re: Wylbur and Paging

2007-04-01 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/1/2007 11:44:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember Grace Hopper said Alan Turing had paging working on Burroughs as DUZ, but wasn't popular until IBM invented it decades later... When IBM announced its new virtual operating systems

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-30 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/30/2007 8:10:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OBS, not OSI. Two totally different companies. OBS - Online Business Services was a service bureau and software development entity in the SF Bay area. I definitely worked for Optimum Systems, Inc.

Re: T.J. Maxx data theft worse than first reported

2007-03-30 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/30/2007 8:52:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are lots of reasons for not wanting a record of how we spend our money I can think of several other reasons (all political) why cash is good. There are many pros and cons with each choice.

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-30 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/30/2007 10:49:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the answer is that the MP effect is in the hardware (using the term loosely) operation of the CP(s) in coordinating the actions that are largely invisibile to the operating system. The MP effect

Re: Question about SuperWylbur

2007-03-29 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/29/2007 3:07:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When did Wylbur become SuperWylbur? To add a little more to Steve Thompson's reply: WYLBUR, and its required telecommunications component ORVYL (might not have spelled that one right, but how

Re: Job class enforcement

2007-03-29 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/29/2007 3:45:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some jobs are real problems. Which is, or was long ago, a very good reason to define and rigorously enforce job classes. I worked on a massive local mod to JES2 in 1977 that determined many

Re: What's a CPU second?

2007-03-29 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/29/2007 4:01:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a jobstep reports, for example IEF374I STEP/STEP0010/STOP 2007086.1135 CPU0MIN 00.02SEC then it is reporting .02 seconds on a single CPU of the box, is that correct? To answer only this part

Re: Sysplex timer

2007-03-28 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/28/2007 8:18:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also - just to help a little with English - the strict answer to your question is Yes - and that's it. The question was Could you xx. This is correct as far as the English that I learned 50+

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