Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca3473...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com>, on 03/07/2012 at 11:36 PM, Bill Fairchild said: >My real main subtle point was that we who try to give an answer need >to remember to compose our text so that it comes across as helpful; There can be significant dis

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-07 Thread Bill Fairchild
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 4:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad... >If the point to which I responded was that many of

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-07 Thread Greg Shirey
Well, I don't believe I suggested that all who read and post here have equal knowledge and experience. If that were a prerequisite for a discussion group, I can't imagine how one would ever get formed. (And then what would be discussed??) But I don't see how asking a question to this group

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-07 Thread R.S.
I have no current experience with PC service, but I have a lot of experiences with enterprise equipment service. I have no doubt what company is the worst in that category. Some examples: - they didn't included *internal* cables. No clue about such requirement also. - they deliver tape system,

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-07 Thread John Gilmore
Greg Shirey wrote: I get your drift, but have to disagree, respectfully. This is a discussion group, not a technical support service. IMO, there are no customers here. I think Bill Fairchild would agree that an occasional thread here takes the form of a discussion between people who are, to a

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-07 Thread Greg Shirey
I get your drift, but have to disagree, respectfully. This is a discussion group, not a technical support service. IMO, there are no customers here. Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Wed

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-07 Thread Scott Ford
ill Fairchild > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf > Of Scott Ford > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:08 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad... > > It help

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-07 Thread Bill Fairchild
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 9:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad... It helps when the customer support rep speaks and understands English. Had a neighbor with

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-07 Thread Scott Ford
It helps when the customer support rep speaks and understands English. Had a neighbor with laptop to router problem , she was frustrated for three days..turned out o be a simple issue.. There also seems to be a bit of a epidemic of people would don't read or refuse to read manuals...A good manu

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-07 Thread zMan
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Dale Miller wrote: > When my wife's windoze machine neared end-of-life, we bought her a new HP > laptop. I had to spend a lot of time fixing problems my wife encountered > because of HP's tactic of pasting HP-specific crud on top of windoze, but > eventually, we go

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-06 Thread Mike Schwab
Abbreviate F*** THIS or F***DISK to FDISK to clear up the installed but uninstallable crapware they give you. Even the uninstalled stuff usually makes your machine run slow, so start fresh. Usually used right out of the box. And if it runs with the windows stuff, the add on stuff probably does n

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-06 Thread Dale Miller
When my wife's windoze machine neared end-of-life, we bought her a new HP laptop. I had to spend a lot of time fixing problems my wife encountered because of HP's tactic of pasting HP-specific crud on top of windoze, but eventually, we got things working in an understandable way. But then .

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-06 Thread Scott Ford
Digital drive. I received > exemplary service from one of the guys on the floor, so I said nice things > about him to his boss. Could have knocked that boss over with a feather, and > that's a real shame. > > > > > > Linda > > > > -

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >>"Five ways your customers say they are unhappy" >>www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/30/crm_customer_satisfaction/ >6. Leave. >The best way to retain customers is to treat every customer as importamt; you >never know who has the ear of the CEO and you never know whe

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-05 Thread Linda Mooney
the guys on the floor, so I said nice things about him to his boss.  Could have knocked that boss over with a feather, and that's a real shame.   Linda    - Original Message - From: "Scott Ford" To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 10:25:27 P

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4f53e486.3060...@gabegold.com>, on 03/04/2012 at 04:54 PM, Gabe Goldberg said: >"Five ways your customers say they are unhappy" >www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/30/crm_customer_satisfaction/ 6. Leave. The best way to retain customers is to treat every customer as importamt; you never know

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-04 Thread Scott Ford
> > > All I did was to call them, explain the problem nicely and ask if there was > there anything they could do for me. > > > > Linda > > > > - Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gabe Goldberg" > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-04 Thread Linda Mooney
I did was to call them, explain the problem nicely and ask if there was there anything they could do for me.  Linda - Original Message - From: "Gabe Goldberg" To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:54:14 PM Subject: Re: Customer Service, the good and th

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-04 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Long ago, a friend had an IBM PS/2. The monitor failed. Being a mainframer, she called hardware support -- the same number she'd call for a broken mainframe. IBM promptly dispatched a CE to her house; he replaced the monitor, cleaned up any mess, and departed in his unmarked white van. More re

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/03/2012 at 08:16 AM, Robert Prins said: >I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but here's a short story about >customer service... It doesn't offend me, but we differ as to what constitutes good service. If I have to contact the CEO in order to get service then there is a major proble

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 3/3/2012 3:16 AM, Robert Prins wrote: Needlessly to say, when I bought a new PC for myself at the beginning of this year, and a new notebook for my wife, I stayed away as far as possible from HP. I don't know if my experience was an exception, but even if it was, that is no way to treat your

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-03 Thread Scott Ford
Mike, I could say a lot about this I had a hitachi 2TB drive fail less than 30days after purchase, their tech support jerked my chain for a week, until I called and demanded to speak to the manager. The issue was the label on the drive was a little unglued, hence the thy assume, I tampered with

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-03 Thread Mike Schwab
Last entry on the first page: > http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19353745.aspx >I have an XPS 17 with the same USB 3.0 Controler (resenas), and i have the >problem with an external hard drive Verbatim 500 Go USB 3.0. >With the default drivers (v2.0.4.0) when I connect

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-03 Thread Stephen Mednick
I understand your frustrations with HP but Dell aren't much better! Take a read of the following thread about the poor souls who have been experiencing USB 3 problems with their XPS 15/17 laptops. The thread goes for 68 pages and was started in November 2010. And Dell still hasn't rectified the p

Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-03 Thread zMan
I stopped reading when you said "HP". Ne'er a worse disaster hath been wrought. My experiences included HP sending the wrong replacement HD (IDE instead of SATA, although of course they knew the machine was SATA-only), then sending TWO SATAs and closing the ticket, so I couldn't have returned the

Customer Service, the good and the bad...

2012-03-03 Thread Robert Prins
Hi, I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but here's a short story about customer service... Once, in a very grey past, I bought a copy of OS/2, and with it came a card that entitled me to two years worth of free updates. I duly send it back to IBM and it was met with silence. Eventually, just a few