Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-06 Thread Barbara Nitz
In fact, the command is xPJES2, where x is what is specified as CONCHAR= on the CONDEF init statement. The default is $ but you may want to select something else for a secondary JES. 2 more comments: That CONCHAR (in case of my alternate JES a .) also precedes HASP-Messages. They look like this:

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/04/2006 at 11:32 AM, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: |Cmd JobName StepName ProcStep |--- / |VTAM VTAM VTAM Perhaps at your shop, but I've got IBM documentation that calls for a proc name of NET. -- Shmuel

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-06 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
Since this was originally a discussion related to SUBSYSTEMs: VTAM is not a subsystem. It doesn't listen on the SSI for commands but seems to get its commands internally from the MVS command handler. Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse - Information Technology

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-04 Thread Johnny Luo
Baloney. Here is the start of the IEFSSNxx member from my Test system called MVS4 so JES2 runs as JES4; SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES4) /* JES4 IS THE PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM NAME */ PRIMARY(YES) START(YES) Two questions: 1,here you use 'JES4' and maybe I could use another name such as 'ABCD'.Then, how

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-04 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
Also remember that the command to shut it down is $PJES2, not $PJES4. In fact, the command is xPJES2, where x is what is specified as CONCHAR= on the CONDEF init statement. The default is $ but you may want to select something else for a secondary JES. Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-04 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
2,START(YES),means that system will automatically issue a START command to invoke JES2 procedure. However,which procedure name system'll use in STARTcommand? S JES4? First an answer to your second Q (it's a short one): The SUBNAME. 1,here you use 'JES4' and maybe I could use another name such

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-04 Thread Dave Cartwright
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:32:27 +0800, Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two questions: 1,here you use 'JES4' and maybe I could use another name such as 'ABCD'.Then, how could the system know that the subsystem you want to initialize is JES2? Put it in another word,how to establish the

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ![EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/03/2006 at 08:14 AM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The main reason is that every piece of documentation is for JES2. You might get someone confused at operations or Level2 if you say my JESA system is down. Trust me, you do not want to confuse Level2 at

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-04 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Why would you say my JESA system is down? The name of the component is JES2, regardless of the name of the cataloged procedure used to start it. Would you describe a VTAM problem as my NET is down? |Cmd JobName StepName ProcStep |--- /

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-04 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 1/4/2006 1:32:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cmd JobName StepName ProcStep |--- / | VTAM VTAM VTAM Kinda of a special case. ===c vtam or ===z net,quick

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-04 Thread David Alcock
Short answer is that the primary subsystem (for JES2) must be named JES2 Someone may have already mentioned this but when JES2 and JES3 initialize, they mark their SSCT entry that the subsystem is either JES2 or JES3 in the SSCTSSID byte. So if you are looking for the JES2 subsystem, you

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-04 Thread Johnny Luo
On 1/5/06, David Alcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Short answer is that the primary subsystem (for JES2) must be named JES2 Someone may have already mentioned this but when JES2 and JES3 initialize, they mark their SSCT entry that the subsystem is either JES2 or JES3 in the SSCTSSID byte.

Define and start JES2

2006-01-03 Thread Johnny Luo
New to mainframe..so the question maybe look a little silly. Here is what IEFSSN00 of our site defines JES2: SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES2) /* JES2 AS PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM */ PRIMARY(YES) START(NO) My question is concerning parmameter SUBNAME: Is it true that it must be the same name as JES2 procedure?

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-03 Thread Steve Arnett
Short answer is that the primary subsystem (for JES2) must be named JES2 and the procedure must have the same name. Johnny Luo wrote: New to mainframe..so the question maybe look a little silly. Here is what IEFSSN00 of our site defines JES2: SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES2) /* JES2 AS PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-03 Thread Mark Jacobs
: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Define and start JES2 Short answer is that the primary subsystem (for JES2) must be named JES2 and the procedure must have the same name. Johnny Luo wrote: New to mainframe..so the question maybe look a little silly. Here

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
You will probably get different answers on this question. Here is my answer. My memory says that the MAIN JES2 Subsystem needs to be JES2. If you define addition JES2 subsystems (secondary) then they can be JESA, JESB, etc... The main reason is that every piece of documentation is for JES2.

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-03 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
No matter what you name it, keep the PROC and SUBNAME names in sync. An STC whose name matches a subsystem name is started under the MASTER instead of under the primary JES, which is what you want for JESx. (Otherwise, you would need to explicitly specify SUB=MSTR on the start command.) And,

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-03 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Luo Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Define and start JES2 New to mainframe..so the question maybe look a little silly. Here is what

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I believe that you are incorrect. We had one system in our sysplex have a JES2 running as JESR for several years. No problems at all. We had a three site complex with JES2 at two sites and JES3 at another. We always called the sub-systems 'JES', with no number. It made automation easier.

Re: Define and start JES2

2006-01-03 Thread Dave Cartwright
Short answer is that the primary subsystem (for JES2) must be named JES2 and the procedure must have the same name. Baloney. Here is the start of the IEFSSNxx member from my Test system called MVS4 so JES2 runs as JES4; SUBSYS SUBNAME(SMS) /* SMS SHOULD BE THE FIRST ENTRY*/