Sorry about the hijack, so here is a redirection.
I've probably said my peace anyway. You can't make water (or other
liquids) flow up hill.
And, I probably agree that all my irritations apply to ISV web support
also. But, as far as I remember, they never had a highly useful robust
TN3270
the
Internet
for release and service delivery better than IBM - at least none that
I've
found in over 30 years. It's just plain foolish to think otherwise.
/rant
Personnaly, I'm glad the green screen IBMLINK is gone -
old-fashioned
and
doesn't do a quarter of what the Web IBMLINK can do
I wanted to make my futile objection to the end of the tn3270 access,
but feedback in not 3270 anymore and:
https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/feedback/feedbackPage.jsp?lc=encc=US
The website cannot display the page
HTTP 500
Most likely causes:
* The website is under
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Subject: Broken link on web ibmlink
I wanted to make my futile objection to the end of the tn3270 access
, Steve
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Yah, that was fun. Unfortunately, Ibmlink 3270 seems broken
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:51:28 -0700, Edward Jaffe
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... You certainly will find no sarcasm on IBM-Main execpt
that aimed at IBMLink.
It would appear that the use of CAPS and sarcasm in IBM-MAIN
postings is proportional to the magnitude of the debacle being discussed.
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
And look at the subject line again. Note the lower case is. Not all
CAPs. There is still room for serious escallation here.
The extent to which further escalation is possible all depends on what
your definition of is is. ;-)
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Re: OUR FRIEND WEB IBMLINK is DOWN (AGAIN) - YES, I''M SHOCKED AND
SURPRISED TOO
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
And look at the subject line again. Note the lower case is. Not all
CAPs. There is still room for serious escallation here.
The extent to which further escalation is possible
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:12:21 -0400, Mark Pace
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...
I don't see ALL CAPS and extreme sarcasm for any other product.
...
I don't kow about the ALL CAPS part, but you're right about the
sarcasm. You certainly will find no sarcasm on IBM-Main execpt
that aimed at IBMLink.
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
I don't kow about the ALL CAPS part, but you're right about the
sarcasm. You certainly will find no sarcasm on IBM-Main execpt
that aimed at IBMLink.
It would appear that the use of CAPS and sarcasm in IBM-MAIN postings is
proportional to the magnitude of the
But I see no one making Titles - HSM SCREWED ME AGAIN. HOW SURPRISING!!
I don't see ALL CAPS and extreme sarcasm for any other product.
Must just be me. Sorry for raining on the parade.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't understand why some people
Perhaps when we see them trading something that is up quite a bit for
something that is down quite a bit I think anyone who is concerned with
availability would be saying to themselves the following:
1. shouldn't they be focused on fixing the availability issues with said new
wonder product?
I sure don't see what that has to do with ALL CAPS and sarcasm. But to your
points.
1 - Do you know that they are not? I'll give IBM the benefit of the doubt
here.
2 - I'm willing to bet any amount of money that IBMLink is up more often
than it is down.
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Bobbie
In a message dated 7/17/2008 4:01:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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2 - I'm willing to bet any amount of money that IBMLink is up more often
than it is down.
That's bogus enough for me? It's just hard to maintain five nine systems
with one eight tools. Sam's
2 - I'm willing to bet any amount of money that IBMLink is up more often than
it is down.
Possibly, but the 'when' is critical.
The downs (unscheduled) seem to be when most 9-5'rs want/need it.
And, others (scheduled) seem to be on weekends, when new releases are being
implemented (when
this poor
availability.
exactly, very well put.. Most of us wouldn't have a job if our systems were
down as much as web ibmlink.
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green screen is still working okay. (thank goodness)
Which IBMLINK are you all complaining about? The (green screen?) 3270
interface to DIALIBM (as it was called here)? This interface, via ATT,
was shut down here
web ibmlink. The green screen works just fine, thank you very much. .
The many web identity issues with web ibmlink have been well documented.
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Works good here.
It usually does when I read complaints, that's why I wondered which
interface the complains were about.
Kees.
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web ibmlink. The green screen works just fine, thank you very much. .
The many web
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Works good here.
It usually does when I read complaints, that's why I wondered
which interface the complains were about.
It works good probably 98% of the time. Unfortunately, in compliance
I can't understand why some people think that IBM-Main is the place to talk
about the status of IBMLink.
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It's working right now.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:22 AM
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Subject: Re: OUR FRIEND WEB IBMLINK is DOWN (AGAIN) - YES, I''M SHOCKED
AND SURPRISED TOO
I
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:21:37 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't understand why some people think that IBM-Main is the place to talk
about the status of IBMLink.
It's not the place to bi*** about it, but if you are just trying to find out
does it work for you?, it's a great place
I understand that. And if the title were Is IBMLink up? or something
similar it wouldn't be so bad. IBMLink just brutalized here ever few days.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:21:37 -0400, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
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AND SURPRISED TOO
I understand that. And if the title were Is IBMLink up? or something
similar it wouldn't be so bad. IBMLink just
: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 1:07 PM
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Subject: Re: OUR FRIEND WEB IBMLINK is DOWN (AGAIN) - YES, I''M SHOCKED
AND SURPRISED TOO
I have suggested IBM publish near real time and historical availability
data for IBMLink. We do this internally (Web page known officially as
Wall
I can't understand why some people think that IBM-Main is the place to
talk about the status of IBMLink.
Because it's one of the most important tools out there?
And, we pay a lot of money for it?
We b*tch and moan about other lousy services and software for the mainframe, so
why not the
green screen is still working okay. (thank goodness)
sev1 issue: 36241384
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green screen is still working okay. (thank goodness)
Good for you. Mine's busted. :-(
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Chase, John wrote:
Good for you. Mine's busted. :-(
FWIW, my environmentally-friendly screen is working just fine. I'm still
logged on from yesterday...
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Hello Radoslaw,
And if IBM actually released the full IBM-LINK service to the rest of the world
you also would become addicted to it.
Although I work in Singapore, through a set of circumstances, I have access
to IBMLINK and it does enhance my ability to support the systems I am
responsible
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing
[ snip many good examples ]
Occasionally I may go a week or two without using IBMLink,
but when I need it, I need it ASAP.
One might say IBMLink is like insurance: When you need it, you need
it
In a message dated 8/1/2007 11:43:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Spoke with IBM this morning regarding the nature of the problem. It is
directly related to the sign-on process...which is NOT on a z/System.
The data continues to reside there but not the sign-on
snip
If the web access is not on a z system, should it be a candidate for a
Reboot Hill story.
/snip
Spoke with IBM this morning regarding the nature of the problem. It is
directly related to the sign-on process...which is NOT on a z/System.
The data continues to reside there but not the
and I won't say the other comment, I promise.
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Robert Justice wrote:
and I won't say the other comment, I promise.
Out of curiosity:
IBMlink is down again. So WHAT ?
I work everyday with mainframes, I use some IBM web services, like
ShopzSeries, but I have no interest to visit IBMlink.
IBMlink (un)availability has completely no meaning
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and I won't say the other comment, I promise.
Out
it has no meaning for me either, since I use the 3270 interface, oops !
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:49:26 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I'm missing by not using IBMlink ???
Opening PMRs electronically. Seeing updates to existing PMRs
electronically. Opening ETRs (questions) electronically. Seeing updates
to ETRs electronically. (ETR)
Problem diagnosis
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Robert Justice wrote:
and I won't say the other comment, I promise.
Out of curiosity:
IBMlink is down again.
On 31 Jul 2007 07:54:10 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Out of curiosity:
IBMlink is down again. So WHAT ?
I work everyday with mainframes, I use some IBM web services, like
ShopzSeries, but I have no interest to visit IBMlink.
IBMlink (un)availability has completely no meaning for me.
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and I won't say the other comment, I promise.
This habitual non-availability of the intended sole customer interface
to IBMLink has gone so far past ridiculous that an adequate adjective to
describe it
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Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 10:54 AM
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Subject: Re: web IBMLINK down again -SEV1 32656350
SNIP
Perhaps the time is coming for influential customers to start
Here's what Mark Fyffe said today in reply to notes I've
sent him (and others) regarding IBMLink 2000 outages:
From: Mark Fyffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Steve,
There is a great deal of focus on the problems. There have been some
short term steps taken with each problem that has arisen and there
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I think I will copy Mr. Fyffe and inquire if this means that all
On 31 Jul 2007 09:39:32 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Steve
How about if someone on the list who has a web site set up a standard e-mail
to send to the illustrious Mr. Palmisano. The e-mail could consist of the
eloquence we so often find in these posts regarding how vital a tool
Well first of all, I should probably point out that some of the more
useful features available on IBMLink are not free but part of a
chargeable service (Software Excel?). This I believe includes the
ability to search on and examine known issues (open as well as closed
APARs, as well as open
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 22:50 -0500, Ed Gould wrote:
Write the president of IBM and let him know. If the letter makes it
to him (doubtful) he might make a difference.
We wrote such a letter to John Akers 20 years ago, and it resulted in
*immediate* action. (Of course that was in a different
Write the president of IBM and let him know. If the letter makes it
to him (doubtful) he might make a difference. Complaining on here
will get you nowhere. You should also complain to major media and
embarrass IBM into doing something. Bring it up at SHARE thats
another way of embarrassing
What is the host port for the 3270 interface?
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On Jul 20, 2007, at 8:11 AM, David Andrews wrote:
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 22:50 -0500, Ed Gould wrote:
Write the president of IBM and let him know. If the letter makes it
to him (doubtful) he might make a difference.
We wrote such a letter to John Akers 20 years ago, and it resulted in
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 08:37 -0500, Ed Gould wrote:
Then I would suggest that at the annual stock holders meeting create
a vote and put it before the board.
Hee! There was a time when I was almost that desperate to get a JES2
APAR accepted. After I unsuccessfully lobbied level-2 for a fix, I
first it will be fixed at 9:15
then 10:15
then 11:15
then 12:15
1:30 p.m. now ..anyone seeing a trend here?
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where was the initial message this morning that said it would be fixed by 9:15
a.m. ?
oh wait, they didn't specify a date.
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Thank goodness the 3270 interface is WORKING LIKE A CHAMP !
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On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:34 AM, Robert Justice wrote:
first it will be fixed at 9:15
then 10:15
then 11:15
then 12:15
1:30 p.m. now ..anyone seeing a trend here?
Write the president of IBM and let him know. If the letter makes it
to him (doubtful) he might make a difference. Complaining on
To reply to the Subject line's question
I believe that either all or nearly all of the web IBMLink outages over the
past
months have been due to the IBM web authentication application which sits in
front of web IBMLink - the application which solicits and processes your IBM ID
when you
I wonder if IBM puts more people on their telephone lines during these
planned outages? Of course, anyone answering calls entered through IBMLink
would be available to take phone calls.
Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434
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not all of them have been due to the web authentication service, our IBM rep
asked about the last set of web ibmlink outages, and was told it wasn't due to
the web authentication service.
However, whatever the reason is, the web interface needs to be as stable as
the 3270 interface
Planned IBMLink outage July 13-14
This is to inform you that IBMLink will have a planned outage starting this
coming Friday, July 13 at 8:00 PM Eastern Time through Saturday, July 14 at
8:00 AM Eastern Time (Saturday, July 14 from 00:00 UTC to 12:00 UTC). This
planned outage will occur because
SEV1 ticket # 32141089
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At the moment, web IBMLink seems to be working OK.
Early this morning (6/1/07, around 6 am eastern time), I got 500 Internal
Server Error or something like that during IBMLink signon, and I understand
the issue number for that severity 1 outage was 32050213. I've no idea what
caused or resolved
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anyone else having a problem trying to logon to web ibmlink??.
(not that I'm concerned or anything with the 3270 interface going away
today)
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All DAY TODAY!
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anyone else having a problem trying to logon to web
I can't get a ptf ordered and trying to enter an ETR also fails.
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I can't get a ptf ordered and trying to enter an ETR also fails.
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I can't get a ptf ordered and trying to enter
I'm really going to miss 3270 access tio IBMLINK. It actually WORKED, a wild
concept.
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WELL, OF COURSE, you eliminate the 3270 i/f. It IS the REAL source of the
problem, after all... without that no one would KNOW that LINK was really
working.
We'll eliminate your disease, but not the symptoms. Rocky Horror Picture
Show
Internal server error
An internal server error occurred while processing your request. Please try
again or report the problem to IBMLink customer support.
meanwhile, 3270 interface working JUST FINE AND HAPPY.
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On a call to IBM trying to open a SEV1 about the outage now...Steve.
On Wed, 2 May 2007, Robert Justice wrote:
Internal server error
An internal server error occurred while processing your request. Please try
again or report the problem to IBMLink customer support.
meanwhile, 3270 interface
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On a call to IBM trying to open a SEV1 about the outage now...Steve.
Ditto.
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Shock and surprise, web ibmlink broken again, meanwhile 3270 interface
working just FINE AND HAPPY.
Now, I know this is a trick question, and let's think real hard on this shall
we,
but which one is it we should be getting rid of again
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Shock and surprise, web ibmlink broken again, meanwhile 3270
interface working just FINE AND HAPPY.
Now, I know this is a trick question, and let's think real
hard on this shall we,
but which
Now, I know this is a trick question, and let's think real
hard on this shall we,
but which one is it we should be getting rid of again?
Why, *obviously* we need to get rid of the 3270 interface.
You are correct, we have a winner! Obviously, the one that is always working
is the one
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Now, I know this is a trick question, and let's think real hard on
this shall we, but which one is it we should be getting rid
of again?
Why, *obviously* we need to get rid of the 3270
You are correct, we have a winner! Obviously, the one that is always working
is the one that should be eliminated !
Isn't that why we are eliminating all mainframes?
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You are correct, we have a winner! Obviously, the one that is always
working is the one that should be eliminated !
Isn't that why we are eliminating all mainframes?
I suppose someone in IBM decided that it was cheaper to
meanwhile, 3270 interface STILL working like a champ!
Trick question: Now which one is it they should be getting rid of ?
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In a message dated 3/30/2007 10:28:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Trick question: Now which one is it they should be getting rid of ?
Seems like in a free market they would offer the customers $XX Weblink $YY
TN3270 $ZZ Both. Too radical for the current crop
3270 interface still working just fine,
meanwhile web ibmlink still down, master ticket # is: 31399941
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3270 interface still working just fine,
meanwhile web ibmlink still down, master ticket # is: 31399941
web IBMLINK broken again (or is that STILL broken) - meanwhile 3270 access
to ibmlink land working fine and happy
Which one should IBM be getting rid of? How about the one that's broken all
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