Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-21 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Aha, that answers the question. You were restoring in batch and I was using HSM. Probably my mistake. -Original Message- From: Richards.Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: manual incremental backups I am not

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-21 Thread Richards.Bob
of the question...Murphy rules again! Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: manual incremental ba

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-21 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
TED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: manual incremental backups That may explain our different experience. I had mine set to the maximum available at that time, probably 16, but not positive. AND I had no requirement for applyincremental. Bo

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-21 Thread Richards.Bob
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: manual incremental backups Bob, I'm pretty sure I was using DFDSS as the data mover. The problem was only 1 volume restored at a time when I expected 15 subtasks to be active. Da

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-21 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: manual incremental backups Dave, What were you using as your data mover back then? I believe I restored AUTODUMP'ed volumes as fast as DFSMSdss dumps when using DSS as the data mover. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-21 Thread Richards.Bob
n, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: manual incremental backups Bob, I last ran applyincremental 4-5 years ago at DR so it's possible that changes in the intervening years caused us to have differing experiences. With newer tape, d

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread Richards.Bob
b Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ginnie Nuckles Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: manual incremental backups Hi Bob .. thanks for all your help .. actually .. we would use the fu

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread Ginnie Nuckles
Hi Bob .. thanks for all your help .. actually .. we would use the full volume dumps from sunday night to recover all volumes then recover * tovolume(volser) unit(3390) to apply the incrementals. We figured out that the Auto Backup parameter in the Storage group left in inactive and the Backup

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
the volume recovers to my dismay were single threaded. It took 5 hours to restore 15 ML1 volumes. We quickly changed to daily DSS Backups for ML1. Dave -Original Message- From: Richards.Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: m

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread Richards.Bob
Re: manual incremental backups Ginnie, If the backups are only for DR, why not use full volume backups? I believe you indicated that the data was already in a separate Storage Group. Bob, Hrecover volume commands take waaayyy too long. I have used Hrecover applyincremental fromdate(dd/mm/) an

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
ubject: Re: manual incremental backups Ginnie, HSM Incremental backups for DR purposes? I certainly hope you do not plan on doing HRECOVER APPLYINCREMENTAL commands during a DR. Takes waaa too long. Do you really have a requirement for incremental backups at DR? Most shops still using tape

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-20 Thread Richards.Bob
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ginnie Nuckles Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: manual incremental backups Snipped per bandwidth police LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-19 Thread Ginnie Nuckles
Hi Bob .. It doesnt seem to matter weather or not we do this by management class or by individual volume. Its just easier to code the backvol command pointing to the management class then all 26+ volumes in that class. We want to break apart our incremental backup processing to allow for a rea

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-18 Thread Richards.Bob
une 16, 2006 6:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: manual incremental backups Actually .. we run incremental backups at 1am every morning for all management classes with the AUTO BACKUP set to Y. We would like to run incremental backups just for a specific Management class at 5am

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-16 Thread Ginnie Nuckles
Actually .. we run incremental backups at 1am every morning for all management classes with the AUTO BACKUP set to Y. We would like to run incremental backups just for a specific Management class at 5am. and not have this management class included again at 1am regardless of the last changed b

Re: manual incremental backups

2006-06-16 Thread Richards.Bob
ething I'm missing? (quite possible...it really has been awhile) Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ginnie Nuckles Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: manual incremental

manual incremental backups

2006-06-15 Thread Ginnie Nuckles
value to Y which will cause the volumes in this management class to be included in the automatic backups at night (which is what we are trying to avoid).. does anyone know how to 1. Run manual incremental backups of sms owned volumes in a specific management class without having them be aut