Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A Strange, I could have sworn you were one of the vocal dissenters when IBM did away with JOBCAT and STEPCAT. Not all progress is in the forward direction. I think that was Ed Gould

SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like the space was first released (primary extent is 1 cyl, allocated was

SV: SDSF REXX problem

2008-05-06 Thread Thomas Berg
For those eventually doing the same misstake, I was sent a solution/correction by a kind guy: (It worked!) Hi Thomas during the loop, the NP ? command overwrites the TOKEN.I variables from the ST command. Add a (PREFIX R) statement to the ISFACT like Address SDSF ISFACT ST TOKEN('token.i')

FW: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
Well, if ya'll remember, we've had a spate of COBOL File Status codes of 97 since we split our z/OS image in two. This occurs when the file is open for OUTPUT on one image and a COBOL program opens the same file for INPUT on the other image. Well, we have another File Status. This time with a

Re: allowuserkeycsa

2008-05-06 Thread Patrick Loftus
We've been using the default of YES up to z/OS 1.8, but will now take the default of NO for z/OS 1.9. Shouldn't be any problem, as we will discover any issues when rolling out through various systems. So far we've discovered a bug in our Sysprog sysplex with a BMC DB2 utility, but they've

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread John Kington
Natasa, Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like the space was first released (primary extent is 1 cyl,

Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-06 Thread Mike Wood
Mark, Although we would expect a client and its server to not be sharing the TCDB, theoretically you could do that. However, since one main driver for client/server is that there is no shared DASD, usuallly there is no other DASD sharing. RMM has no default PORT, that is a mandatory operand

Re: Heads Up: WSC Flash - Bad PTFs

2008-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 5 May 2008 20:29:06 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Paul Gilmartin wrote: I wonder whether most of us, even Ed. J are now convinced of the disadvantages of IEHIBALL, ... ITYM Ed Finnell ... Oops. Sorry. CRS. Or my own deficient IEBIBALL. It was David Jousma who sneered at those of us

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:25:42 -0400, John Kington wrote: Natasa wrote: Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like

Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks, Mike - I don't have to, or want to share the TCDB any longer, I just wanted to be sure that it would continue to work. Where can I find documentation on setting up the OMVS segment for RMM? I didn't find it in the Implementation guide. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Mike Wood [EMAIL

Re: DFSMSRMM Server/Client setup

2008-05-06 Thread Mike Wood
Mark, You are correct we do not document that requirement within the rmm pubs. The requirement is here http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi- bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1b370/1.2.11.1? SHELF=EZ2ZO10J.bksDT=20070604150102 in the Comm Svr: IP Configuration Guide. Mike Wood RMM Development On

Re: Heads Up: WSC Flash - Bad PTFs

2008-05-06 Thread Jousma, David
Sneer might be a bit strong. Rather than 10 posts about how it couldn't be cut/paste, I just typed it up once for everyone, knowing that webpage don't get updated very quick ___ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President Mainframe Services

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Faber, Hermann
Natasa, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like the space was first released (primary extent is 1 cyl, allocated was

Re: Heads Up: WSC Flash - Bad PTFs

2008-05-06 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
snipped Sneer might be a bit strong. Rather than 10 posts about how it couldn't be cut/paste, I just typed it up once for everyone, knowing that webpage don't get updated very quick end And you used less energy and bandwidth. One kudos to you. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John Well, if ya'll remember, we've had a spate of COBOL File Status codes of 97 since we split our z/OS image in two. This occurs when the file is open for OUTPUT on one image and a COBOL program

Service Unit to CPU minute conversion

2008-05-06 Thread Todd Burrell
I have a request from management to give them the number of CPU minutes used for a certain time period per application. I have the numbers for numbers of service units for each period and application, but I need to know what conversion factor I can use to convert this to CPU minutes? Is there

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread John Kington
Tom, On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:25:42 -0400, John Kington wrote: Natasa wrote: Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those

Re: APAR acronym

2008-05-06 Thread john gilmore
The intent of my OP was to supply historical information, not to stir up bootless controversy. APARs were indeed called 'Applied . . . ' before they were called 'Authorized . . .'. The adjective 'applied' once indeed figured prominently in IBM's marketing-organization names: The men and women

Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread Staller, Allan
TSO line edit? XEDIT? snip Just out of curiosity, which editor supports that syntax. I know ISPF would use c all Unix VSAM and I have a vague recollection of vi or some Unix editor using s/Unix/VSAM but I've never seen the two mixed before. . . . One uses the most convenient tools available.

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IGY

Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues I still despise VSAM at times. Like right now due to not being

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:25:42 -0400, John Kington wrote: Natasa, Hello, in order to prevent releasing of unused space for some datasets, I allocated it yesterday with MC that has Partial release parameter set to 'No'. However, today when I look at some of those datasets, they look like the

Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:27:41 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: I don't

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
Here is additional information: The dataset was allocated through ISPF panels (so there was no RLSE parameter), in subsequent daily batch it is used with DISP=OLD, program is ICEMAN. Management class MCNORLSE does not allow any migration, because those datasets are used every day. Regarding

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
It sounds up front as if the allocation was not estimated well enough in advance. Why not the 20 cylinders primary and 20 cylinders secondary with a RLSE? Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) Yea, I gave them those references. They're gonna scream: I

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread John Kington
Natasa, Here is additional information: The dataset was allocated through ISPF panels (so there was no RLSE parameter), in subsequent daily batch it is used with DISP=OLD, program is ICEMAN. Management class MCNORLSE does not allow any migration, because those datasets are used every day.

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
Daniel, because the size of the dataset is one day 200 cyl, another day 300 cyl or more, and during the weekend 10 cly. When we had RLSE, number of extents was steadily growing. Regards, Natasa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 May 2008 09:05:34 -0400, John Kington wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: I think it's unlikely that the volume is so fragmented that the first extent allocated was only 1 cylinder, but that he was able to obtain a total of 220 cylinders in 12 extents. It is especially unlikely considering

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
If that is known then 1 cylinder primary is automatically too small. Why nott 20/200? Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: APAR acronym

2008-05-06 Thread Avram Friedman
Many years ago at Guide Montral (83?) I heard the key note speaker say APAR stood for Atempt to Prevent A Reoccurance PTF stood for Possibly The Fix Avram Friedman On Mon, 5 May 2008 13:54:18 +, john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard interpretation of APAR is now Authorized

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
John, I will see about DAF, thank you for the information. The idea was to allocate the dataset manually, in order to assign it new MC, and to avoid changing daily batch and ACS routines. I allocated it again, and this time I checked actual allocation: General Data

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Natasa Savinc
Daniel, allocation was 200/20. My question was something like where did this 1 come from? Regards, Natasa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7-1.8

2008-05-06 Thread Andy Robertson
Hi Just starting to plan the 1.7- 1.8 z/OS upgrade We have a four-system sysplex and intent to go to 1.8 by doing a rolling update over a week. Ie there will be about a week with some systems running z/OS 1.8 and some running z/OS 1.7 One thing I can't seem to find unambiguous information

Re: Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7-1.8

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 6 May 2008 09:07:07 -0500, Andy Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Just starting to plan the 1.7- 1.8 z/OS upgrade We have a four-system sysplex and intent to go to 1.8 by doing a rolling update over a week. Ie there will be about a week with some systems running z/OS 1.8 and some

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Hardee, Charles H
John, snip Yea, I gave them those references. They're gonna scream: I didn't need to do that in the PAST!!! sobwhinemoan /snip Were you running on multiple physical machines in the past? Or a single machine, single LPAR in the past? If so, then you need to remind them that file locking, in

Re: APAR acronym

2008-05-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:10:57 +, john gilmore wrote: The intent of my OP was to supply historical information, not to stir up bootless controversy. APARs were indeed called 'Applied . . . ' before they were called 'Authorized . . .'. The adjective 'applied' once indeed figured prominently

Re: Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7-1.8

2008-05-06 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Andy Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:07 AM Subject: Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7-1.8 Hi Just starting to plan the 1.7- 1.8 z/OS upgrade We have a four-system sysplex and intent

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:46:53 -0500, Natasa Savinc wrote: because the size of the dataset is one day 200 cyl, another day 300 cyl or more, and during the weekend 10 cly. When we had RLSE, number of extents was steadily growing. You reuse this data set? How do you empty it to prepare for the next

Re: Heads Up: WSC Flash - Bad PTFs

2008-05-06 Thread Edward Jaffe
Jousma, David wrote: Sneer might be a bit strong. Rather than 10 posts about how it couldn't be cut/paste, I just typed it up once for everyone, knowing that webpage don't get updated very quick Lots of people talk about how somebody ought to do something. Some people talk about

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Natasa, Can you show us the MCNORLSE attributes? Also, do you have STOPX37, SRS or similar products? These products have the ability to manipulate allocations. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Natasa Savinc Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Java Batch

2008-05-06 Thread Kirk Wolf
David - Yes, it does help to reduce JVM start-up times, which are mostly about class-loading and JITing. YMMV On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:52 PM, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 14:32 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: SDK 6 has a feature (AOT) whereby these optimizations

Re: Service Unit to CPU minute conversion

2008-05-06 Thread Kevin Mckenzie
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/06/2008 09:04:33 AM: I have a request from management to give them the number of CPU minutes used for a certain time period per application. I have the numbers for numbers of service units for each period and application, but

Re: Service Unit to CPU minute conversion

2008-05-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:04:33 -0500, Todd Burrell wrote: I have a request from management to give them the number of CPU minutes used for a certain time period per application. I have the numbers for numbers of service units for each period and application, but I need to know what conversion

Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- I still despise VSAM at times. Like right now due to not being able to share an open VSAM file across z/OS images. Granted, this is a documented restriction. But our programmers don't really care, they just want VSAM to work the way that __they__ want

Re: Service Unit to CPU minute conversion

2008-05-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- I have a request from management to give them the number of CPU minutes used for a certain time period per application. I have the numbers for numbers of service units for each period and application, but I need to know what conversion factor

Re: SMS-releasing unused space

2008-05-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- Storage space constraint relief could cause this which is why I suggested looking at fragmentation. I probably should have included amount of free space on the volume or in the SMS pool. -unsnip--- I submit that

Re: Service Unit to CPU minute conversion

2008-05-06 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
I tracked down the Service unit to CPU second conversion constants in the Init and Tuning Guide. This is what I need, because I have the SU's already from the type 30 SMF records. Once I put in the coefficients, I should have a good number. Thanks to everyone that replied. It had just been

Re: APAR acronym

2008-05-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip Let me also note that I stopped posting regularly in this forum chiefly because I found myself feeling and, worse, exhibiting less and less patience with the effluvia of gratuitous, because radically uninformed, responses that my posts too often

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip--- I am now totally elided at the programmer. Who obvious is a elided. The code in their program, on OPEN, tests for an RC of 00 or 92 (should be 97). And then just unconditionally sets the VSAM return code to 90 and complains. I'm not too happy with

Re: Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7-1.8

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:22:21 -0400, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll have to check with IBM on the specifics of whether a 1.8 templates will be accepted on a 1.7 system. We had a 1.5 database that IBM swore up and down would run on 1.4, until we had to run IRRUT400 while we were still

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) ---snip--- I am now

Re: Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7-1.8

2008-05-06 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- That will be fine. As an alternative, you can now IPL from 1.8 and if the correct templates aren't there, temporary ones will be used. After you have done some initial testing you can run IRRMIN00 UPDATE from a 1.8 system without the STEPLIB. I

Re: Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7-1.8

2008-05-06 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7-1.8 On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:22:21 -0400, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll have to

Module IAXVP CPU activity - real storage management

2008-05-06 Thread Ken Williams
I've got a module IAXVP eating 25% of the CPU of some of my busiest CICS regions - CICS 3.1, zOS 1.8 Its to do with real storage management. And these aren't the biggest real storage eaters in CICS . I don't have any real storage problems, and ive got 32 gb on the machine Anyone got any

Re: Module IAXVP CPU activity - real storage management

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
Ken Williams wrote: I've got a module IAXVP eating 25% of the CPU of some of my busiest CICS regions - CICS 3.1, zOS 1.8 Its to do with real storage management. And these aren't the biggest real storage eaters in CICS . I don't have any real storage problems, and ive got 32 gb on the machine

Re: Module IAXVP CPU activity - real storage management

2008-05-06 Thread Brian Peterson
On Wed, 7 May 2008 02:23:51 +1000, Ken Williams wrote: I've got a module IAXVP eating 25% of the CPU of some of my busiest CICS regions - CICS 3.1, zOS 1.8 Its to do with real storage management. And these aren't the biggest real storage eaters in CICS . I don't have any real storage problems,

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
They're gonna scream: I didn't need to do that in the PAST!!! sobwhinemoan That is their problem! Progress requires change. If your management mandated Parallel SYSPLEX (which I believe is progress), then people have to change! There is no point in moaning about the past; face the future,

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) They're gonna scream: I didn't need to do that in the PAST!!!

Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread Jon Brock
Does the Internet receive still require cryptographic services? Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Wayne Driscoll
This thread is morphing into the user key CSA thread. Just because bad practices once appeared to be successful, they were still bad! Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Don Leahy
Yea, I gave them those references. They're gonna scream: I didn't need to do that in the PAST!!! sobwhinemoan Yes, you did. You just got lucky, and got away with not doing it. sound effect Washing hands. /sound effect The phrase I like to use is: Working By Coincidence.

Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
No it doesn't, but check back thru the archives for the past 6 months. I had an issue where I don't have crypto, either in hardware or in the appropriate level of JAVA, and hit some snags due to incorrect DDDEF entries in my receive job. You can contact me offlist if you want me to dig back thru

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Don Leahy
I am now totally elided at the programmer. Who obvious is a elided. The code in their program, on OPEN, tests for an RC of 00 or 92 (should be 97). And then just unconditionally sets the VSAM return code to 90 and complains. I'm not too happy with myself either. I actually __believed__

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) I am now totally elided at the programmer. Who obvious is a

Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
My tapes didn't require crytographic or JAVA interference. G Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information Communications Technology Crawford Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:

Re: allowuserkeycsa

2008-05-06 Thread Michael Babcock
As I understand it, IDMS specifically has a problem with NO. Patrick Loftus wrote: We've been using the default of YES up to z/OS 1.8, but will now take the default of NO for z/OS 1.9. Shouldn't be any problem, as we will discover any issues when rolling out through various systems. So far

Re: Question on RACF database upgrade for z/OS 1.7-1.8

2008-05-06 Thread Sumi, Joseph J. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
My MVS guy IPL'ed 1 of our dev systems under z/OS 1.8 --- I ran the template job, he then re-ipled that system and then brought the other Development systems up under 1.8. We ran Dev 1.8 and Prod 1.7 for about a month with no problems. Keep in mind that the Migration Guide indicates to do it

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Don Leahy
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:47 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question -

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Leahy Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) I agree that it is the programmers job to RTFC. Many of them

Re: allowuserkeycsa

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 6 May 2008 12:53:57 -0500, Michael Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand it, IDMS specifically has a problem with NO. As does CA-DATACOM the last I checked. There is an option to change it for current version(s?) (which we do for CA-11's DATACOM) but when our DBA checked

Re: (Mainframe has competition was fwd) Re: COBOL Compiler for Windows

2008-05-06 Thread Scott Ford
All, I read the response below in regard to below to Sabre. I have a comment and take for what it's worth ( 30+ yrs - IBM MVS/VM/VSE/VTAM/CICS/TCPIP/NCP ) and now a developer. The thing that drove everyone off Mainframes according to reports was the cost. So now small and medium shops have 1 or 2

Re: Shop zSeries Ordering Issues

2008-05-06 Thread Jon Brock
Thanks for the tip. I have avoided FROMNETWORK in the past since we haven't configured cryptographic services, but I may give it a shot next time. Thanks, Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Tuesday,

3420 old tapes

2008-05-06 Thread Todd Burrell
Hello: I have an oldie but a goodie. One of our user areas sent us 9 3420 tapes today, and some of them appear to be 800 BPI. When I run tape map against the tape I get the data in the attachment. I am trying to read these files on a 3420 tape drive, and when I put the density (DEN=2) into

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
Aside from the fact that you might be improving their code :) I thought you engaged in the splitting exercise to separate Production from Development. If so, why is a Production file being shared at all. Make them make a copy. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) Aside from the fact that you might be improving their code :)

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) Aside from the fact that you might be

Re: 3420 old tapes

2008-05-06 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
What model of 3420 drive do you have? I am pretty sure at least the later models (4, 6, and 8) could only read 1600 or 6250 bpi. http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3420.html Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) H. Memo to self: find out if healthmarkets is used by

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
H. Memo to self: find out if healthmarkets is used by my insurer. If so, change insurers. Hope nobody here read that. It could cost me my job. Gotta be careful about what you air on these forums. I never gripe about bad practices by a current employer and mask the identity of any previous

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It is difficult to justify making a copy of production data for testing when the actual production data can be used instead. At least from what I understand. Again, I disagree with this philosophy. But I'm just a grunt. What does your manager, SME, Auditor, compliance personell think of this

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd) Gotta be careful about what you air on these forums. I never

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion ListOn Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Aside from the fact that you might be improving their code :) I thought you

Re: APAR acronym

2008-05-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:10:57 +, john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The intent of my OP was to supply historical information, not to stir up bootless controversy. Controversy? Most of the comments have been light-hearted and/or a comment that it's been Authorized for 30 years or so.

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:40:11 -0600, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H. Memo to self: find out if is used by my insurer. If so, change insurers. No smiley? If John was banned from public postings (or worse) based on a posted comment like that, it would be a shame. If you were

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Scott Ford
I agree guys, everyone gets frustrated. It human nature. My opinions are my own and no one else's, but I am careful in regard to previous employers. It can backlash on you. Scott Ford Senior Host Developer | Forging Enterprise Identity | IdentityForge.com (Main) 678.266.3399 x304 | (Cell)

Re: (Mainframe has competition was fwd) Re: COBOL Compiler for Windows

2008-05-06 Thread Hal Merritt
Last I heard, PULSE uses Tandem for the ATM's and uses a z/890 for the ancillary (balancing, posting, reporting) functions. If we look only at the 'clearing' function, then it is all z/os plus the usual assortment of tinkertoy servers. There might be a *nix or two in there somewhere. And has

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Steve Comstock
Mark Zelden wrote: On Tue, 6 May 2008 13:40:11 -0600, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H. Memo to self: find out if is used by my insurer. If so, change insurers. No smiley? If John was banned from public postings (or worse) based on a posted comment like that, it would be

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If John was banned from public postings (or worse) based on a posted comment like that, it would be a shame. Unfortunately, John created the opportunity by exposing shortcomings where he works. Any public posting becomes fair game. See my previous post regarding ... If you don't want it to be

Re: APAR acronym

2008-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The intent of my OP was to supply historical information, not to stir up bootless controversy. If I post a comment that contains a mis-remembered detail, I get lambasted regularly by two people (whom I now ignore). I try to be accurate and helpful, but some people don't care. They'd rather

Re: 3420 old tapes

2008-05-06 Thread Linda Mooney
We got rid of all of our 800 bpi tapes a long time ago- sometime around 1990 I think, because the new version of MVS we were installing at the time no longer supported 800 bpi. Since we had a major customer who required that support, we built a front-end read the tapes create a disk file job

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread McKown, John
It was my own thoughtlessness. I simply need to not post anything that somebody __might__ (in house or otherwise) cause me a problem. Live and learn, I guess. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group

Re: Long running Batch programs keep IMS databases offline

2008-05-06 Thread Hal Merritt
It's been a decade or two, but concurrent batch/online was a base feature of IMS. Problems included the difficulty in backing out the effects of a malfunctioning batch program. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Lynn

Re: Long running Batch programs keep IMS databases offline

2008-05-06 Thread David Betten
My knowledge of IMS is minimal but I seem to recall there being two flavors of IMS batch processing IMS DL/I was usually offline processing where files could not be accessed concurrently by the onlines IMS BMP (Batch Message Processing) was where the batch jobs accessed the data bases through

Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

2008-05-06 Thread Clark Morris
On 6 May 2008 12:34:26 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd)

Re: 3420 old tapes

2008-05-06 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
I appreciate all of the replies. As I had figured, we're pretty much out of luck right now. We're going to try and figure out a way to get on a 3420 that can read 800 BPI, but we may still have an issue with OS releases, etc... We were trying to help out one of our customers, and this turned

Re: Long running Batch programs keep IMS databases offline

2008-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It's been a decade or two, but concurrent batch/online was a base feature of IMS. Problems included the difficulty in backing out the effects of a malfunctioning batch program. It's called BMP -- Batch Message Programming. Instead of going against the database directly, the Batch job talks to

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-06 Thread Hal Merritt
An early foray into file encryption showed this behavior, IIRC. Some enciphering algorithms are said to be really heavy CPU hitters. If you are encrypting then you need to be careful with compression. Encrypted data is said to be generally not compressible. -Original Message- From:

Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If you are encrypting then you need to be careful with compression. Encrypted data is said to be generally not compressible. Compress first. Then encrypt. If I recall from my basic computer courses in the mid-1970's. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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