Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Or even try to turn a product that does one thing to incorporate another product for free. Job schedulers exists to manage the serialization and coordination of jobs beyond mere submittal. The free alternative is already there, they can put an IEBGENER step at the end of the a job to submit the

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-23 Thread Steve Comstock
Lester, Bob wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Free z/OS webserver The Abstract is written in such a way to make it plausible to

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 23 May 2008 14:16:55 -0400, David Cole wrote: >As noted in my prior post, I think it is a shame that the IBM-JES2 >folks make it so difficult ... > And that JES2 doesn't do device setup and highwater mark reservation, and that JES2 doesn't verify data set availability, and that JES2 doesn'

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
OTOH IBM-MAIN is a great place to brain storm and refine a requirement before submitting it to IBM as a marketing request or through SHARE. A unique audience of customers, ISV developers, and IBM folks exists here that is usually not available to comment unless you stumble into the right hotel bar

Re: PPRC and page datasets

2008-05-23 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 5/8/2008 2:17:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >We established a PPRC Metro Mirror - Loop Back environment, which means that we PPRC from the front end of the box to the back half of the box. We were told that in a metro mirror with 30 kilometer

Re: USSTAB color question

2008-05-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:35:41 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I haven't been involved in this since retirement, but can't help >wondering why this near universal interest in USS. When VTAM >first appeared in my installations, we used a network solicitor. >... The first

Re: USSTAB color question

2008-05-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 23 May 2008 06:26:51 -0500, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >You can have variable substitution in ***all*** USS messages, not just USS >message 10 and USS message 7. ... >... Chris, I understand the value of the messages and substitutions in them, but I still don't think th

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-23 Thread Lester, Bob
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Rob Schramm > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free z/OS webserver > > The Abstract is written in such a way to make it plausible to assum

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 22 May 2008 10:06:33 -0500, Bass, Walter W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I recall the password encryption algorithm for IDMS back in the late >80's worked by repeatedly multiplying and then discarding the upper byte >of the result. We actually duplicated this logic in COBOL so that we >coul

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-23 Thread Rob Schramm
The Abstract is written in such a way to make it plausible to assume that the JIWO610 - IBM HTTP Server for z/OS Powered by Apache is indeed replacing the existing HTTP Server. However, everyone has a point regarding the pdf being a bit less than clear. I have sent off a question to get final

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I think it is a shame that the IBM-JES2 folks make it so difficult to serialize a thread of jobs. It seems to me that this is such an obvious thing to want to do, but when JES2 is started with CNVTNUM=>2 (and there are strong reasons for must shops to want to do this), such serialization become

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-23 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 10:27 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: > Actually, JES3 *is* available as a free alternative in Dave's new > development "home". Define "free" - it may not cost any more (presuming Daves new "home" is Dallas), but the effort might not be insignificant if Dave (or his people) isn'

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
Well.. I know (or at least it, so it appears - since I don't *KNOW* you) you are indeed a thoughtful "security officer".. (And.. err.. started tasks bypassing authentication is definitely a solution - yet - doesn't it give people with access to the conso

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix) As noted in my prior post, I thin

Re: Where do I find these reason codes?

2008-05-23 Thread Chris Mason
Alan You will need to combine *both* the EACCES return code, a general statement of the problem, with a specific "reason code" which - as I understand it - is a code returned by a lower level function. The "reason code" explanation should refine the "return code" explanation. Note that the "re

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:24 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant > jobs in JES2 (the details) > > David Cole wrot

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread David Cole
Ahhh. That would make good sense. Thanks, Dave At 5/23/2008 03:24 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: David Cole wrote: and it all runs in one batch job Well For a full gen, that would run to somewhere near a thousand steps. Doesn't that blow JES2's JCT limit? (or something like that...) It's sort

Re: zFS Setup for the first time

2008-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 23 May 2008 14:38:38 -0500, Mark L. Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Zeldon wrote on 05/23/2008 02:29:22 PM: > Something is very wrong with your email software. When you hit reply, it mis-spelled my name. :-) Have a great weekend (3 day / holiday weekend to all of you in the

Re: zFS Setup for the first time

2008-05-23 Thread Mark L. Wheeler
Mark Zeldon wrote on 05/23/2008 02:29:22 PM: > On Fri, 23 May 2008 14:11:40 -0500, Mark L. Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I had one recent situation where pax (used internally for the file copies) > >didn't copy all the files. The underlying problem is fixed by APAR OA09086, > >but not

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>WLM managed Init's? IIRC, Jobs are placed in queue in FIFO order within Service Class. Same problem -- dependent on the converter time. And, more than one init could could be started due to goals being missed. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! ---

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Well For a full gen, that would run to somewhere near a thousand steps. >Doesn't that blow JES2's JCT limit? (or something like that...) I could be wrong, but I think the step limit is 255. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: zFS Setup for the first time

2008-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 23 May 2008 14:11:40 -0500, Mark L. Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Zelden wrote on 05/23/2008 02:00:25 PM: > > >> >> BTW, make sure you check out the BPXWH2Z migration tool. >> You can also run it interactively: TSO %BPXWH2Z >> > >I agree. BPXWH2Z takes care of a lot of things

Re: zFS Setup for the first time

2008-05-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am working on that now. I have downloaded the Migration from HFS to zFS tools, and playing with the process with a throw away HFS. Lizette >>All your HFS migration to zFS should be to compatibility mode zFS files >>systems (a 1 to 1 migration). You just need to add "-compat" to your >>form

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
David Cole wrote: and it all runs in one batch job Well For a full gen, that would run to somewhere near a thousand steps. Doesn't that blow JES2's JCT limit? (or something like that...) It's sorta' like an SMP/E build. It ATTACHes all of the necessary compilers and utilities from within

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread Rob Scott
Dave, The "BUILD" job is just three steps : (1) Cleanup+Prep (2) Generate the build logic (3) SCLM Build Step (3) is just ISPF in batch - running the build logic for each element with the same jobstep. Believe me - you can do some cool stuff in SCLM (define your own "languages" etc etc). "Go

Re: zFS Setup for the first time

2008-05-23 Thread Mark L. Wheeler
Mark Zelden wrote on 05/23/2008 02:00:25 PM: > > BTW, make sure you check out the BPXWH2Z migration tool. > You can also run it interactively: TSO %BPXWH2Z > I agree. BPXWH2Z takes care of a lot of things for you, and is very easy to use. There have been a number of problems associated with it

Re: Where do I find these reason codes?

2008-05-23 Thread Field, Alan C.
Lizette, thanks. I had tried that but decided that the response wasn't any help at all. Brian Peterson's answer makes the most sense. Alan -Original Message- If it is a BPX error code then you can use TSO BPXMTEXT 6E110533 JRCinetBadName: The Cinet is c

Re: zFS Setup for the first time

2008-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
>All your HFS migration to zFS should be to compatibility mode zFS files >systems (a 1 to 1 migration). You just need to add "-compat" to your >format step: > > >//FORMAT EXEC PGM=IOEAGFMT, >// PARM=('-aggregate SYS1.ZFS.TEST001 -compat') > BTW, make sure you check out the BPXWH2Z migration too

Re: This post only intends only to let xxx save his beers and money in Austin.

2008-05-23 Thread shai hess
Thanks Tony. On 5/22/08, Tony B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nice to hear from you again, Mr. Hess. I found your software to be > interesting and hope you keep up the good work. > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf > Of

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/23/2008 at 04:25 AM, David Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Is there an "official" way to enforce job execution sequencing? For JES3 there is DJC. For JES2 there are multiple twisty add-ons, all different. There's no sequencing facility bundled with JES2. --

Re: zFS Setup for the first time

2008-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 23 May 2008 14:44:33 -0400, Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have been reading the MIGRATION from HFS to zFS redbook as well as the implmentation Guide for z/OS V1.7 > >I will be going from z/OS V1.7 to z/OS V1.9 very soon in our test environment. I have requested to change o

Re: zFS Setup for the first time

2008-05-23 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:45 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: zFS Setup for the first time > > I have been reading the MIGRATION from HFS to zFS redbook as > w

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread David Cole
Hi Sam, You had me until I read this: A few final notes concerning the relationship between /*BEFORE, and /*AFTER. Many people try to use these statements, and stack two or more jobs in the same PDS member and submit them all at the same time with one SUBMIT command. This usually works as

zFS Setup for the first time

2008-05-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have been reading the MIGRATION from HFS to zFS redbook as well as the implmentation Guide for z/OS V1.7 I will be going from z/OS V1.7 to z/OS V1.9 very soon in our test environment. I have requested to change over from HFS (v1.7) to zFS (v1.9). I have been running some of the format jobs a

Re: Where do I find these reason codes?

2008-05-23 Thread Brian Peterson
One thing which might lead one astray is that there is a typo in the messages and codes manual. In the description of message IGD17501I, IBM writes that this message is the result of the "BPX10PN" routine. Please note that the fifth character of the service routine name is actually the letter

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread David Cole
I'll be really, really off the wall. Why not use make? It can be set up to do the updates, then if they succeed, do all the compiles (and it can be told to ignore the RC of the compile), then do the linkedit. It really is set up to run off of UNIX files, but I'll bet there is a way to have it r

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Dave, What you describe is pretty much what the Mellon Mods for JES2 provided. I would like to see equivalent function added to base JES2 by IBM. Thruput Manager provides this function too. Here is user doc for the Mellon Mods syntax for comparison. Thanks, Sam Users Guide - How

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread David Cole
Ever considered using SCLM? No. I've never examined SCLM. Sounds like I should get off by lazy butt and check it out. and it all runs in one batch job Well For a full gen, that would run to somewhere near a thousand steps. Doesn't that blow JES2's JCT limit? (or something like th

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Scott > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant > jobs in JES2 (the details) > > Dave, > > Ever co

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread David Cole
At 5/23/2008 02:23 PM, Staller, Allan wrote: WLM managed Init's? IIRC, Jobs are placed in queue in FIFO order within Service Class. The trouble is, your "FIFO order" is the order in which the collective converters finish processing their jobs and place them onto the execution queues. Because

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread Rob Scott
Dave, Ever considered using SCLM? - one of its strengths is controlling what actually has been updated and what to build as a consequence. There is some initial pain to define exactly what makes up the product using its own "ARCHDEF" language - however after that it is a breeze to re-gen the p

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread Staller, Allan
WLM managed Init's? IIRC, Jobs are placed in queue in FIFO order within Service Class. The thing is, a JES2 supported solution, it seems to me, would be both ideal and easy to implement. Here's my idea: (1) support a //card option or a /*card option by which a user could provide an arbitrary

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-23 Thread David Cole
As noted in my prior post, I think it is a shame that the IBM-JES2 folks make it so difficult to serialize a thread of jobs. It seems to me that this is such an obvious thing to want to do, but when JES2 is started with CNVTNUM=>2 (and there are strong reasons for must shops to want to do this)

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (the details)

2008-05-23 Thread David Cole
At 5/23/2008 08:37 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >This is where scheduling package comes into play to prevent such incidents and tales of war stories describing such horrors. ;-D That assumes Production Batch. I don't believe Dave's stuff is Production. And, it's rare that non-Production is allowed t

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-23 Thread Ivan Warren
Rick Fochtman wrote: Sooner or later, you'll have to invest a certain amount of trust in a selected, and trusted, few employees. If you can keep that to a minimum, you can minimize the risks of an extended outage because of "security abuse"; you just have to decide who you trust. Well.. I k

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
McKown, John wrote: What I do is have the last step of one job submit the next job in the series. JES2 does not have DJC. JES3 does. Converting to JES3 is not likely a valid option . Actually, JES3 *is* available as a free alternative in Dave's new development "home". -- Edward E Jaffe Ph

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
The scenario you describe is quite possible. In shops where I've worked, getting caught doing something like that would result in a speedy promotion: to the street. And DON'T ASK FOR REFERENCES! I know... But we are talking "security issues" here. May

Re: APPC no longer support on zos/1.9

2008-05-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: John: will the last shipped level of the APPC application suite run under z/OS 1.7 if he retains the libraries? I understand that if it does he will still be on his own. I can see no reason the existing APPC Suite code should not work on z/OS 1.9 or higher. I

Re: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX?

2008-05-23 Thread Gibney, Dave
Runs every day here. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 7:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX? I write a lot of code in REXX.

Re: Where do I find these reason codes?

2008-05-23 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Here's a jump off point. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2M861/SPTM012163 Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information & Communications Technology Crawford & Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 ema

Re: Where do I find these reason codes?

2008-05-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
If it is a BPX error code then you can use TSO BPXMTEXT 6E110533 JRCinetBadName: The Cinet is configured and this name does not match any stack.

Where do I find these reason codes?

2008-05-23 Thread Field, Alan C.
I have a user getting the following: IGD17501I ATTEMPT TO OPEN A HFS FILE FAILED, RETURN CODE IS (006F) REASON CODE IS (006F) REASON CODE IS (6E110533) I've spent about an hour in System Msgs, UNIX Msgs and other books and I cannot find any of these codes in

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-23 Thread David Cole
Thanks for the plug Chris, we appreciate it! As someone else on the thread pointed out, we are small enough that setting CNVTNUM=1 will work fine for us. Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cole Software WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- I've seen this on very rare occaisions, when a VIO user requested inordinate amounts of space and tried to use it all. Interesting! I thought VIO kept only the current track in memory. Also, with SMS, you can 'manage' VIO. -

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-23 Thread Ivan Warren
Rick Fochtman wrote: --- The scenario you describe is quite possible. In shops where I've worked, getting caught doing something like that would result in a speedy promotion: to the street. And DON'T ASK FOR REFERENCES! I know... But we are talking "security

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests ... divergent to Security DB controls

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
Perhaps one of the RACF folks can comment on what I am about to say I thought that there was a change to allow RACF to be able to extract the password now. (which would allow RACF to play better with LDAP repositories etc etc) That's correct. B

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I've seen this on very rare occaisions, when a VIO user requested inordinate >amounts of space and tried to use it all. Interesting! I thought VIO kept only the current track in memory. Also, with SMS, you can 'manage' VIO. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Look at the REAL column in the SDSF DA screen and do a SORT REAL D, and the >culprit(s) will bubble to the top. Not necessarily. Just because a task has a large working set doesn't make it page. You have to know what the 'typical' working sets are and what has been added to the mix. Use RMFMON

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
- Hello all, this started this morning and I don't know why. We had to add 3 additional paging datasets. Is there qnyway to tell who is the culprit? thanks D ASM IEE200I 10.16.31 DISPLAY ASM 308 TYPE FULL STAT DEV DATASET NAME PLPA 100% FULL 4

Re: What Are ISPF Tables? (Was: PF Key Customization [Was: ...])

2008-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>What are *ISPF* tables? An internal data structure with user defined fields an multiple rows. All data stored in them is character data -- no types. They are loaded into memory manipulated (or not) and stored back to disk when closed. There are temporary ones, as well. They are stored in PDS/PDS

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Let me ask this question - although this is not directly related to RACF - but to any access control system that locks out people upon failed access attempts.. Isn't locking out or revoking someone because of unsuccessful access attempts a wonderfu

Re: PF Key Customization (Was: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers)

2008-05-23 Thread Dave Salt
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> What are *ISPF* tables? ISPF tables are created and managed using ISPF table services; e.g. TBCREATE, TBOPEN, TBSORT, TBEND (etc). As an example, your ISPF profile is stored in an ISPF table. Dave SaltSee the new SimpList(tm) rollover image at: http://www.mackinn

Re: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX?

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- I write a lot of code in REXX. I also like Perl, but rarely use it on z/OS. Anyway, I was just trying to think (hard on the lead in to a 3 day weekend in the states). Would I gain very much if I subset my input file using DFSORT instead of subsetting i

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 23 May 2008 10:20:48 -0500, Ward, Mike S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello all, this started this morning and I don't know why. We had to add >3 additional paging datasets. Is there qnyway to tell who is the >culprit? >thanks > >D ASM >IEE200I 10.16.31 DISPLAY ASM 308 >TYPE FULL STAT

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-23 Thread Webster, Chris
If you don't want to make the jobs submit each other and have no scheduling package, there is another alternative using UNIX tools (or windows). We have perl packages to do FTP (although you could also do it in rexx). Using make (or gnumake), you can make each job dependent upon the other. The c

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Ward, Mike S
Thanks. This worked also. It's pointing to my WBI V6 brokers. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinnacle Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Paging problems - Original Message - From

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Staller, Allan
There is also a message from ASM when, IIRC, the total page slot usage exceeds 70%. This message will name the top 5(?) users of auxstor. > Hello all, this started this morning and I don't know why. We had to add > 3 additional paging datasets. Is there qnyway to tell who is the > culprit? > than

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Ward, Mike S
Thanks. That did it. It looks like it's my WBI V6 brokers. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Paging problems Ward, Mike S wrote: > Hello all, t

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: "Ward, Mike S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: Paging problems Hello all, this started this morning and I don't know why. We had to add 3 additional paging datasets. Is there qnyway to tell wh

Re: PF Key Customization (Was: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers)

2008-05-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 May 2008 07:57:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote: >> I don't have DB2 (this is an IDMS shop). Can 3.16 edit other types >> of tables that we create for export to PCs and such? >> >> -- >ISPF 3.16 edits *ISPF* t

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-23 Thread David Cole
At 5/23/2008 08:25 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 23 May 2008 04:25:10 -0400, David Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >I have a process that submits up to a couple of hundred jobs for >execution. I require that these jobs execute in the same order in >which they were submitted. > >For decad

Re: Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
Ward, Mike S wrote: > Hello all, this started this morning and I don't know why. We had to add > 3 additional paging datasets. Is there qnyway to tell who is the > culprit? > thanks > > D ASM > IEE200I 10.16.31 DISPLAY ASM 308 > TYPE FULL STAT DEV DATASET NAME > PLPA 100% FULL 490C SYS

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- I have a process that submits up to a couple of hundred jobs for execution. I require that these jobs execute in the same order in which they were submitted. For decades I have accomplished this by assigning all of the jobs to a specific job class a

Paging problems

2008-05-23 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all, this started this morning and I don't know why. We had to add 3 additional paging datasets. Is there qnyway to tell who is the culprit? thanks D ASM IEE200I 10.16.31 DISPLAY ASM 308 TYPE FULL STAT DEV DATASET NAME PLPA 100% FULL 490C SYS1.PLPA COMMON57% OK 490B SYS1

Re: 80-Column Minds

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
Having splits is rarely a performance hit, but taking one is. -- In my experience, it's more like a mild hiccup. If there was a way that COBOL programs using VSAM could specify Sequential Insert Strategy, there

Re: 80-Column Minds (Was: SMP/E question)

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- I agree. We sometimes defrag volumes. We also try to maintain a good "head room", but the current CIO thinks that is wasteful. - Sounds like he's got lots of head room; no brains, just lots of "head room". :-) "It'

Fw: Re: DCOLLECT Problem

2008-05-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
Saw this on the RACF-L list. Thought I would just pass it along. Lizette >> >our storage administration team have a problem with DCOLLECT command >> (IDCAMS) and RACF messages. >> >> >When they collect storage data by dataset in our site and these >> datasets >> are not SMS datasets, they use

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>What's the problem with a large number of jobs given to the convertor? Delay? >Create more convertors. The problem is the sudden spike in CPU required to convert. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: PF Key Customization (Was: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers)

2008-05-23 Thread Don Leahy
> > I don't have DB2 (this is an IDMS shop). Can 3.16 edit other types > of tables that we create for export to PCs and such? > > -- ISPF 3.16 edits *ISPF* tables, not DB2 tables.

Re: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX?

2008-05-23 Thread David Betten
I would use DFSORT to extract the 0200 records and have your REXX read the smaller file. Your REXX is probably using EXECIO and DFSORT will be able to read through that entire file faster and use much less cpu time. Have a nice day, Dave Betten DFSORT Development, Performance Lead IBM Corporati

Re: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX?

2008-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:59:40 -0500, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I write a lot of code in REXX. I also like Perl, but rarely use it on >z/OS. Anyway, I was just trying to think (hard on the lead in to a 3 day >weekend in the states). Would I gain very much if I subset my input file >us

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-23 Thread Sorensen Henrik (KSFI 442)
Well I guess it depends where you read, I read this (p12): The WebSphere Application Server Plugin Many customers use the IBM HTTP Server as a front end to their WebSphere Application Server applications. The WebSphere Application Server Plugin provide a means of letting the IBM HTTP Server instan

Re: PF Key Customization (Was: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers)

2008-05-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 May 2008 07:07:22 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote: >IIRC, EXPAND was introduced in z/OS 1.6 (or 1.7). It only works when >the cursor is on a scrollable field. Scrollable fields are a fairly >new feature, and very uncommon except in products like File Manager >DB2. ISPF option 3

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-23 Thread Ivan Warren
Rick Fochtman wrote: - I still don't see how anyone can hack a userid and password and log on to a RACF protected system. If you have security set up correctly, you only get 3 tries or so, and then the ID is revoked. You

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-23 Thread Lester, Bob
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Sorensen Henrik (KSFI 442) > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free z/OS webserver > > > I read the attached .pdf and it *seems* to indic

Re: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX?

2008-05-23 Thread Reda, John
I think it depends on how much data you are working with. REXX is very easy to use but costly to run. DFSORT will outperform REXX by orders of magnitude. You might be able to do all of your work with DFSORT and not need any REXX code at all. This would be the best. John Reda Syncsort, Inc.

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-23 Thread Sorensen Henrik (KSFI 442)
> I read the attached .pdf and it *seems* to indicate that the HTTP >server (apache) is part of the Optional materials for WAS. When I read it, it said if you want to use HTTP Apache from WAS you need a plugin from the optional materials Henrik -

Re: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX?

2008-05-23 Thread pilgrimpez
I would, definitely. You can do some Wonderful Things with DFSORT/ICETOOL these days. The SPLICE operator is particularly wonderful for RACF database unloads as you can join up base userid records with their segments, so you can then handle single records at a time in a report instead of having

Re: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX?

2008-05-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
McKown, John wrote: > Would I gain very much if I subset my input file using DFSORT instead of subsetting in my REXX code. Seems to me that using DFSORT to subset the data, even if only used once, would result in less CPU, I/O, and elapsed time. Interpreted REXX is expensive in terms that each

Re: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX?

2008-05-23 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:04 AM Subject: Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX? I write a lot of code in REXX. I also like Perl, but rarely use it on z/OS. Anyway,

Re: PF Key Customization (Was: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers)

2008-05-23 Thread Don Leahy
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22 May 2008 07:02:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote: > >>I also have PF4 set to EXPAND. (Which is a recent ISPF command used >>for scrollable fields). > > I just tried it and got '"EXPAND " is not active"'.

Opinions? Subset input with DFSORT before processing in REXX?

2008-05-23 Thread McKown, John
I write a lot of code in REXX. I also like Perl, but rarely use it on z/OS. Anyway, I was just trying to think (hard on the lead in to a 3 day weekend in the states). Would I gain very much if I subset my input file using DFSORT instead of subsetting in my REXX code. My example in this is the outpu

Re: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers

2008-05-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 22 May 2008 02:30:37 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schwarz, Barry A) wrote: >So a fifty message thread about stupid practical jokes is sufficiently >topical for you but a three message thread about CSI severely degrades >the S/N ratio of the list? Some of this discussion actually can help us with

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- There is no easy way to counter such a "one and done" approach - unless you either improve your database's physical security (don't let it get into the wrong hands) or also require the cracker to physically possess something presumably uniquely id

Re: PF Key Customization (Was: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers)

2008-05-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 22 May 2008 07:02:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote: >I also have PF4 set to EXPAND. (Which is a recent ISPF command used >for scrollable fields). I just tried it and got '"EXPAND " is not active"'. How is it used? ---

Re: Off-the-wall Auditor Requests (was RE: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
- I still don't see how anyone can hack a userid and password and log on to a RACF protected system. If you have security set up correctly, you only get 3 tries or so, and then the ID is revoked. You would be STUNNED at th

Re: PF Key Customization (Was: Practical jokes for mainframe systems programmers)

2008-05-23 Thread Howard Brazee
It's a pain having to find all of the places to customize F-Key settings, but from inside editing: PF1 . . . HELP PF2 . . . start PF3 . . . END PF4 . . . RETURN PF5 . . . RFIND PF6 . . . RCHANGE PF7 . . . UP PF8 . . . DOWN

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-23 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
""Ted MacNEIL"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<872975912-1211547628-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1299 [EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >In what way would you like to "control" this? > Nowadays we have WLM to control all jobs in the system and put them on their correct place, no ma

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-23 Thread Lester, Bob
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Shane > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 6:13 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free z/OS webserver > > On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 07:40 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: > > > IBM HTTP S

Re: ISPF Index listing - Batch

2008-05-23 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
There is the IEHLIST utility discussed in the DFSMSdfp Utilities manual. There is also the LMMLIST ISPF Service discussed in the ISPF Services Guide. -Original Message- From: Alvaro Quintupray B. [mailto:snip] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: ISPF In

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