Re: Z11 - Water cooling?

2009-02-03 Thread Martin Packer
Actually I think they were saying steam. :-) Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter ID: MartinPacker They're figuring out that collaboration isn't a productivity hit, it makes them smarter. Sam

NPF

2009-02-03 Thread Rafal Hanzel
Hi all I tried to start NPF but after customzation I had this IEF403I NPFWTR - STARTED - TIME=11.51.30 0090 EZY6131E NPFWTR START-FSS START TOKEN INVALID: 0090 *EZY6201E FSS NPFWTR ABENDED, USER CODE=0999 REASON= 0090 *EZY6204E LRB FAILING INSTR WAS 0A0D 0090

SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Gerry Anstey
OK bad design, we have lot of cack here, probably due to hiring cheap programmers, any way, I digress. Here s the SDSF summary: PREFIX=GCSPROCP DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SYSNAME=FMVS NP DDNAME STEPNAME PROCSTEP DSID OWNERC DEST REC-CNT JESMSGLG JES2 2 PSTGCS T

Re: NPF

2009-02-03 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Never worked with NPF, but the FSS start token invalid would mean that the writer should bedefined as a JES writer and started via $SPRTxxx to get a proper FSS token Rafal Hanzel wrote: Hi all I tried to start NPF but after customzation I had this IEF403I NPFWTR - STARTED -

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Rob Scott
Gerry, SDSF has quite a bit of overhead to read records from the spool. My advise would be to change the GCSPROCP job to write its output directly to a DASD file and then pass it to the next step to be processed by Filemaster - if you still need the output on JES spool then just add an extra

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Gerry Anstey
Thanks Rob that was my advice too, It's not something we do a lot. I was mainly curious as to what SDSF could possibly be doing to take so long, surely the spool is just on DASD somewhere! thanks GA Rob

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Rob Scott
Access to spool data is performed using an SSI call to JES (function 1 or 79 - or sometimes called SAPI) - you supply a parameter list to JES and it then fetches the data for you and keeps track of where you are within the sysout dataset so that you can ask for the next record. To achieve this

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Rob Schramm
Not that this is much more than a slightly silly suggestion.. but you could use FTP to get the output. Rob Schramm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Gerry Anstey
Rob, Not sure how I'd go about getting FTP to access the spool data. Can you explain further, give and example etc Thanks GA Rob Schramm

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread David Logan
ftp mybox user xxx yyy QUOTE SITE FILE=JES DIR DIR JOB12345 GET JOB12345.X GET JOB12345.SYSPRINT And if your systems programmer has set JESINTERFACELEVEL=2 in the FTP parameters, you can: QUOTE SITE JESOWNER=DJL* QUOTE SITE JESJOBNAME=BUILD* QUOTE SITE JESSTATUS=OUTPUT And get listings for

Re: NPF

2009-02-03 Thread Rafal Hanzel
Hi Thanks for your quick response and help It was exactly this what I omitted NPF is new for me, and I missed this information .. Thanks for your help .. It is working Rafal Miklos Szigetvari pisze: Hi Never worked with NPF, but the FSS start token invalid would mean that the

Health check of z/OS backup

2009-02-03 Thread Arye Shemer
Hello, I have a customer which is interested in health check of backups taken for z/OS system which includes CICS DB2 and VSAM files. If any of you have experience with such requirement can contribute some bullets such: 1. Level of the health check done by the customer

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
There is a recent apar for SDSF performance, but it's in the H, O displays for a large number of jobs. OA25498https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/psp/viewAparDoc.wss?context=apardocumentIds=OA25498lc=encc=US SDSF H display at z/OS 1.9 is slow. Starting at 1.9, SDSF uses the Extended Status SSI call

Re: Syncsort vs competitors

2009-02-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 2 Feb 2009 21:49:01 -0800, brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com (Brian Westerman) wrote: Unfortunately, (or maybe not) there are several products that are becoming a commodity, (Sort being one of them, Syncsort, DF/Sort, CA-Sort), and the differences between them are less noticeable for some sites,

Re: Top Secret and EKM

2009-02-03 Thread Rebecca Martin
We do not use EKM but we are a Top Secret shop. Do you have your Top Secret task specified in your IEFSSNxx member? We do and we do not start Top Secret before JES2. We do have the start command for Top Secret in our COMMNDxx member. After Master Scheduler processing we get the following

Re: PSF and APKACIF

2009-02-03 Thread Howard Turetzky
Enhanced ACIF can now be ordered separately. You are no longer required to have a PSF license: See BM United States Software Announcement 208-037 The Enhanced ACIF feature of PSF is now a separately ordered and priced feature. A base PSF license is no longer required when ordering Enhanced

Re: Health check of z/OS backup

2009-02-03 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-DIT)
Dennis Roach GHG Corporation 2100 Space Park Drive LM-15 4BH Houston, Texas 77058 Voice: (281) 336-5027 Cell:(713) 591-1059 E-Mail: dennis.ro...@lmco.com All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near

Re: Syncsort vs competitors

2009-02-03 Thread Frank Yaeger
Ed Gould wrote on 02/02/2009 11:43:25 PM: Frank of all the people to pipe up I am surprised as I have always said good things about DFSORT. If I said anything bad (I reread it) and couldn't see anything negative. If all you have to say are unkind words I will to re-evaluate the sort issue.

Re: Top Secret and EKM

2009-02-03 Thread Rebecca Martin
Please ignore and excuse the part of my previous post concerning IEFSSNxx - we do not have our Top Secret task specified in IEFSSNxx. Don't know how my fingers got so far ahead of my head or where that came from. I must be low on coffee again.

Re: Syncsort vs competitors

2009-02-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I suspect virtually all of the customers now of the competitors are there now because it's easier than changing after all this time. Actually, we looked into it. And, the technology/conversion was not the issue. It was strictly cost, so we stayed with SYNCSORT. - Too busy driving to stop for

IBM Offers To Move Laid Off Workers To India

2009-02-03 Thread Dave Jones
http://www.informationweek.com/news/management/outsourcing/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=213000389 (watch for line wrap) DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:27:03 -0500, Rob Schramm wrote: Not that this is much more than a slightly silly suggestion.. but you could use FTP to get the output. Wouldn't FTP use the same SSI calls as SDSF, with similar performance? OTOH, if FTP performs significantly better than SDSF, it provides

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerry Anstey Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SDSF - so slow! SNIP My questions are: 1. Any ideas why SDSF takes appox 90 minutes (12 EXCPs +

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SDSF - so slow! There is a recent apar for SDSF performance, but it's in the H, O displays for

Re: IEAOPTxx

2009-02-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It is the time the ENQ will be promoted. If you have a shop that routinely submits lots of jobs that get initiated and remain in ENQ contention, (say, everyone and their uncle wants SMF data from tape) too high of a value is going to cause extra CPU cycles to be wasted. You're going to promote

SLIP - SA - DATA= for a dataspace???

2009-02-03 Thread David Pearson
I have the following SLIP coded... SLIP SET,SA,A=SVCD,ID=S001,+ DSPNAME=jobname'.dspname,+ DSSA='jobname'.dspname,+ RA=(0001C681),+ DA=(0001C681,EQ,F1),+ E But it did not catch. Question is: Does the DA= (DATA=) refer

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
Obviously an Natural program, do you have Entire System Server aka Natural Process? A guy named Ray put some pretty good JES access in that product. You might have been able to do it in one pass and faster. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State Univsersity

Re: Syncsort vs competitors

2009-02-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip Ed Gould wrote: _SNIP__ (Frank Yaeger) wrote: I have done a couple of conversions but that was more than 10 years ago so anything I write could be out of date so

Re: SLIP - SA - DATA= for a dataspace???

2009-02-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
Sorry, silly question. Should the second line with DSPNAME have more than one tick (quote) mark in it? Lizette I have the following SLIP coded... SLIP SET,SA,A=SVCD,ID=S001,+ DSPNAME=jobname'.dspname,+ DSSA='jobname'.dspname,+ RA=(0001C681),+

Re: Recent SHARE Survey on Virtualization

2009-02-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Edward Jaffe wrote: According to my contact, the survey will be posted on the SHARE homepage (the full survey for members only and an executive summary for anyone). Once the executive summary and a note from Jim Michael are finalized for the homepage, everything will go live at once. This

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- OK bad design, we have lot of cack here, probably due to hiring cheap programmers, any way, I digress. Here s the SDSF summary: PREFIX=GCSPROCP DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SYSNAME=FMVS NP DDNAME STEPNAME PROCSTEP DSID OWNER

Re: SLIP - SA - DATA= for a dataspace???

2009-02-03 Thread Pearson, David F.
Yes, there is a missing ' . And my jobname is not jobname, nor is my dataspace name dspname. Please disregard the syntax errors. Thanks... David Pearson -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent:

SMTP server

2009-02-03 Thread Hal Merritt
I've been asked to look into killing the SMTP service. We are very heavy users of XMITIP, but inbound email is blocked at the firewall. However, that does not seem to be good enough and we need to 'block the port' on the z/os host. I'm having trouble isolating a FM, and there is not much on

Re: Syncsort vs competitors

2009-02-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Its the usual crew (for instance Ted in this case). He has this chip on his shoulder and I basically disregard everything he says. Other have come forth with nothing to add other than the usual. Yes! I do have a chip on my shoulder! I'm sick of hearing your garbage! 1. The SHARE conspiracy. 2.

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Edward Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Wouldn't FTP use the same SSI calls as SDSF, with similar performance? Possibly not. FTP is designed only to read beginning to end. SDSF is designed to allow scrolling up and down, locating specific records, backward find processing, etc. Keep in mind that SDSF

Re: Syncsort vs competitors

2009-02-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip Ted MacNEIL wrote: I don't use this word very often (I don't swear very often), and at the risk of being barred from this forum: You are a total ASSHOLE!

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Frank Swarbrick
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:25:05 +, Gerry Anstey gerry.ans...@jpmorgan.com wrote: OK bad design, we have lot of cack here, probably due to hiring cheap programmers, any way, I digress. Here s the SDSF summary: PREFIX=GCSPROCP DEST=(ALL) OWNER=* SYSNAME=FMVS NP DDNAME STEPNAME PROCSTEP

Re: SMTP server

2009-02-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/3/2009 12:46:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, joa...@swbell.net writes: to our MS Exchange system. Works fine. Well, except when Exchange is down. When that happens, rarely, all the email steps just freeze and production control freaks out because their jobs don't

Re: SMTP server

2009-02-03 Thread Tom Sipusic
Hal Merritt wrote: I've been asked to look into killing the SMTP service. We are very heavy users of XMITIP, but inbound email is blocked at the firewall. However, that does not seem to be good enough and we need to 'block the port' on the z/os host. I'm having trouble isolating a FM, and

Re: COBOL question - NOTE

2009-02-03 Thread John P Kalinich
John Mckown of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 02/03/2009 01:11:50 PM: It seems to me that I remember a COBOL version which had a NOTE verb. It definitely is not in Enterprise COBOL. Am I once again confused, or did that disappear in some primeval version?

Re: SMTP server

2009-02-03 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:01:33 EST, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: Block all incoming port 23 on your switch to z/OS(s). Every now and then do SMSG SMTP QUEUE to see if anything's passing the wrong way. IIRC, port 23 is TELNET. SMTP is port 25. Haven't heard all the fallout yet. Couple

Re: COBOL question - NOTE

2009-02-03 Thread Schneiderwent, Craig - DOT
OS/VS COBOL Using the NOTE statement, the programmer can write commentary that will be produced on the source listing but not compiled. Format: NOTE character string Any combination of characters from the EBCDIC set may be included in the character string. If a NOTE sentence is the first

Re: SMTP server

2009-02-03 Thread Hal Merritt
And this can be implemented with a SMTP bounce as opposed to a TCPIP outage. We are testing the bind, this one is next. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Y Odo Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 2:33 PM To:

TIOT usage

2009-02-03 Thread Bob
We have some bigger jobs coming that may stress our TIOT limit. Anyone know a way to determine this for past job runs (SMF) or a tool that might help? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: SMTP server

2009-02-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/3/2009 2:33:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, step...@hawaii.edu writes: which causes SMTP to not listen on port 25. which should be as good as block the port ... Right, they finally put that in after being an 'open relay' for so long. After Network 'things' I'd go in

COBOL question - NOTE

2009-02-03 Thread Bill Klein
FYI, The NOTE statement actually was impacted by the LANGLVL compiler option. Therefore, if you are converting OS/VS COBOL (or DOS/VS COBOL) code to a currently supported compiler, you probably want to look this up - to make certain that you comment the correct lines. John P Kalinich

Re: Syncsort vs competitors

2009-02-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
To all those flamers, STOP your junk! PLEASE. Come on, be a nice sport, get a beer and relax, boys and girls... Please get IBM-MAIN back to its professional level... It does not cost you at all any way, ok? I for myself will stay neutral, even if that gets me in trouble... ;-D

Re: SMTP server

2009-02-03 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:28:21 -0600, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: I've been asked to look into killing the SMTP service. We are very heavy users of XMITIP, but inbound email is blocked at the firewall. However, that does not seem to be good enough and we need to 'block the port' on the

Re: COBOL question - NOTE

2009-02-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Feb 2009 11:19:02 -0800, joa...@swbell.net (John McKown) wrote: It seems to me that I remember a COBOL version which had a NOTE verb. It definitely is not in Enterprise COBOL. Am I once again confused, or did that disappear in some primeval version? It did disappear for the compilers I use

Re: SMTP server

2009-02-03 Thread Stephen Y Odo
we're at z/OS 1.7 ... and I set: INBOUNDOPENLIMIT 0 in the SMTP config file ... which causes SMTP to not listen on port 25. which should be as good as block the port ... and we're still able to send outbound messages ... --Stephen Hal Merritt wrote: I've been asked to look into killing

Re: Display true hex as EBCDIC characters?

2009-02-03 Thread Ivan Warren
Chris Mason wrote: Incidentally, I express that reservation about addressability in the simple terms of There must be 240 bytes of code between the beginning of the CSECT So why not just LA3,TRTAB SL3,=A(C'0') TR.,0(3) ? If all bytes in operand 1

COBOL question - NOTE

2009-02-03 Thread John McKown
It seems to me that I remember a COBOL version which had a NOTE verb. It definitely is not in Enterprise COBOL. Am I once again confused, or did that disappear in some primeval version? -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Display true hex as EBCDIC characters?

2009-02-03 Thread Chris Mason
Gregory I don't know if you noticed but Don Poitras managed to contribute a post to a thread in ASSEMBLER-LIST here in IBM-MAIN. You may be sure your solution was offered many times in many guises in the ASSEMBLER-LIST thread. Incidentally, I express that reservation about addressability in

Re: Syncsort vs competitors

2009-02-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry, but gould's comments were totally unacceptable. If my response is wrong, I don't care! I try to contribute, but he was totally out of line! I need to respond! --Original Message-- From: Elardus Engelbrecht Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: COBOL question - NOTE

2009-02-03 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Bill Klein wrote: FYI, The NOTE statement actually was impacted by the LANGLVL compiler option. Therefore, if you are converting OS/VS COBOL (or DOS/VS COBOL) code to a currently supported compiler, you probably want to look this up - to make certain that you comment the

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, I don't think it's SAPI, our spool dataset and report offload product (SyzSpool) uses SAPI and the speed is far greater than what he seems to be experiencing. SAPI isn't used to actually get each record, only to get access to the JES dataset name, the dynamic allocation is performed and

B18 VTS replication question

2009-02-03 Thread Meganen Naidoo
Hi All, I need some advise concerning the following: The current environment has a B18 VTS / ATL at the primary site and a B18 VTS / ATL at the DR site 30km away. We now need to move the B18 VTS / ATL to a DR site that is approx 1000km away. Will it still be possible to use a peer to peer

Re: SDSF - so slow!

2009-02-03 Thread Brian Westerman
I can't believe how stupid my last comment (and test) was, I looked at the wrong line of his output and completely missed that the next DS in line was 25 MILLION lines. I don't have any 25M line jobs to test, but I went to our test runs of SyzSpool and looked at the stats for various size

CA-1 TO RMM CONVERSION: RDS

2009-02-03 Thread אבנר מיכאלי
Hi all, Our retention policy (in CA-1) is simple and based on two parameters - all data sets must be cataloged or their expdt gt today. Otherwise they are scratched. So, we don't use any RDS (no RDS file exists). One of the conversion steps from CA-1 to DFRMM deals with the RDS and creates