Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-25 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Again, a z/OS 1.11 change, right? Right. I just had my 1.11 education called Technical University in Berlin. :-) >>If you're sharing HFSs and haven't yet converted to zFS, you may want to >>wait until you're at least 1.11 to avoid the two rolling IPLs or the sysplex >>outage to get your zFS migra

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Rick Fochtman wrote: > --- > In serious line of business applications with, competing requirements from > many internal departments, it is often that IT is the central and only > organization that und

MFNetDisk future

2010-05-25 Thread Shai Hess
HI, I receive question from a user about the future of the product. Currently there are two options to the future of MFNetDisk. 1. Free product. 2. Other company will buy the product from me and in this case the product can be not a free product depend on the new owner of the product. So

Re: Calculating the pipe size for DASD mirroring

2010-05-25 Thread Knutson, Sam
Alan if your current storage vendor even potentially has a stake in the proposal I would expect they might be willing to help and have access to tools that would help at little or no cost to you. Before we licensed on our own tools we used to lean on the various storage vendors for this kind of he

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Edward Jaffe
Kirk Wolf wrote: On a related topic - Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and x64 "blades"? In particular, how would you see these being used? what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power o

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Edward Jaffe
Ken Porowski wrote: http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/z-vendor-watch-znext-or-z11-e ither-way-its-coming-soon If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it zAfterNext ? LOL. They *always* refer to the upcoming System z hardware release as zNext until it's of

Re: Calculating the pipe size for DASD mirroring

2010-05-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>DINTV(0015) < Ensure lowest available INT for better >granularity 0015 is NOT the lowest available granularity. DINTV(0001) is. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Calculating the pipe size for DASD mirroring

2010-05-25 Thread Maurice Clark
Hello Alan, At the very least, you need to know the Write Rate (in MB/s) of the DASD volumes that will be replicated. I guess it depends on your available tools, but the RMF Post Processor reports may be the best place for you to start this analysis. I would start with the following report: D

Re: Calculating the pipe size for DASD mirroring

2010-05-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- I was just asked to come up with statistics that describe the rate of DASD data changed (during some yet-to-be-determined period) so that we can calculate the bandwidth required to transmit the necessary (mirrored) data. The DASD h

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- On a related topic - Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and x64 "blades"? In particular, how would you see these being used? What advant

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- In serious line of business applications with, competing requirements from many internal departments, it is often that IT is the central and only organization that understand multiple aspects of the business and how they work (

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Henry Willard
Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2010 16:38:32 -0400, David Andrews wrote: > > >On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 16:10 -0400, Tom Marchant wrote: > >> The 68000 and its successors are big endian. > >> They switched to PowerPC in 1994 and to i86 in 2006. > > > >Didn't PPC go both ways? (I vaguely remem

Re: SDSF

2010-05-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 May 2010 17:27:17 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >Have you looked at the XD? Commands - XDC, XDS and so forth in SDSF? > Hmmm. Looking at this, I see that XD takes me to panel: ISFPNO41SDSF Open Print Data Set which is pretty similar to ISPF 3.2: ISRUAASE

Re: SDSF

2010-05-25 Thread Hale, Bob
This is what we use. By entering TSO PRT the following prompt is displayed. It was created about 20 years ago but works very well. I have not tried to gather all the pieces, but if you are interested let me know. PRINT A DATASET ===> Copie

Re: Calculating the pipe size for DASD mirroring

2010-05-25 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
Not sure how this works on HDS disk, but with our V2X disk, we would take a snapshot and let it sit for a day. Then, after 24 hours, run the storage utilization report which would tell you how far apart the primary and secondary volumes were. Approximate amount of data changed in 24 hours - it wo

BMC Apptune

2010-05-25 Thread Sharon Lopez
I just applied z/OS maintenance (z/OS 1.10) hipers, RSUs through 1003, PSPs for the 2097s and toleration ptfs for z/OS 1.11. After we ipled, we are getting the following message in our BMC Apptune product. Has anyone experienced this? I would normally ask BMC to research but we no longer hav

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 May 2010 16:38:32 -0400, David Andrews wrote: >On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 16:10 -0400, Tom Marchant wrote: >> The 68000 and its successors are big endian. >> They switched to PowerPC in 1994 and to i86 in 2006. > >Didn't PPC go both ways? (I vaguely remember a talk by David Barnes a >few ye

Calculating the pipe size for DASD mirroring

2010-05-25 Thread Starr, Alan
Hello List, I was just asked to come up with statistics that describe the rate of DASD data changed (during some yet-to-be-determined period) so that we can calculate the bandwidth required to transmit the necessary (mirrored) data. The DASD hardware is HDS. I suppose that it's not necessary to

Re: SDSF

2010-05-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 May 2010 17:27:17 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: > >Ron > >Have you looked at the XD? Commands - XDC, XDS and so forth in SDSF? > Thanks. I hadn't been aware of these. >> >> Wanting to do following from sdsf ... >> exec a tso command like PRINT specifying lines to print ,then be able to

Re: SDSF

2010-05-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
Ron Have you looked at the XD? Commands - XDC, XDS and so forth in SDSF? Or looked at using the SDSF REXX interface to do what you want (z/OS V1.8 and higher) Lizette > > Have question for everyone...was there not a replacement for the TSO > PRINT > command on the CBT tape...or someone may h

Re: SDSF

2010-05-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:46:44 -0500 Ron Wells wrote: :>Have question for everyone...was there not a replacement for the TSO PRINT :>command on the CBT tape...or someone may have an alternative..? :>Wanting to do following from sdsf ... :>exec a tso command like PRINT specifying lines to print ,t

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>One a year would make it 17 years, which is when I will (hopefully) retire. Since it seems to be every two years, 34 appears to be the better estimate. By then, with the 'technology dividend' a 9000 MIPS processor will be less than an MSU. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

SDSF

2010-05-25 Thread Ron Wells
Have question for everyone...was there not a replacement for the TSO PRINT command on the CBT tape...or someone may have an alternative..? Wanting to do following from sdsf ... exec a tso command like PRINT specifying lines to print ,then be able to specify formdef/pagedef and chars..besides cla

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 16:10 -0400, Tom Marchant wrote: > The 68000 and its successors are big endian. > They switched to PowerPC in 1994 and to i86 in 2006. Didn't PPC go both ways? (I vaguely remember a talk by David Barnes a few years ago, where he mentioned the OS/2 PPC port making use of the

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:17:08 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: >Interesting thought: if they continue with numbers, how long before the >z28 ??? :-) > One a year would make it 17 years, which is when I will (hopefully) retire. --

Re: Creating a variable length FTP to ASCII file

2010-05-25 Thread Steve Comstock
Howard Brazee wrote: I have a job that creates a LRECL=7104 record.Most of this a variable length comment.It gets FTPd to a Unix machine and loaded into a database.They want the extra spaces removed. I doubt if the optimal solution would be to make it variable length, and wonder if I

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Kelman, Tom
John, Our mainframe appliation systems are old also. We have a z10BC, one production LPAR, no CF, and CICS/VSAM with a very little bit of DB2 processing. Over the past year and a half our DDF processing has been increasing dramatically, so the applications folks have found out about that nicety.

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it zAfterNext ? -- Interesting thought: if they continue with numbers, how long before the z28 ??? :-)

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf > > On a related topic - > > Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z > frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and > x64 "blades"? > > In particular, how

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>And when libraries get updated, we can get burned if we don't understand how >updated specifications apply or don't apply to our business. Yes, I know. I worked for an international wholesaler, with 34 offices in 23 countries, and (especially) applib updates always caused grief. Sometimes,

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:05 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's > Coming Soon! > > On a related topic - > > Do

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
- One of these days, for your sins, you will have to work in a (x86) little-endian world. Byte (pair) reversal will be visited upon you. A pair of translates will solve that p

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 25 May 2010 19:09:36 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >Having never used an Apple, I don't know. >I thought they were still Motorola chips, which are also little endian. No. The 68000 and its successors are big endian. They switched to PowerPC in 1994 and to i86 in 2006. -- Tom Marchant --

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Kirk Wolf
On a related topic - Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and x64 "blades"? In particular, how would you see these being used? what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power or x64 blades in the

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 May 2010 12:37:52 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote: >>Understand, with a Bank, that may be forbidden by law (debits first >>processing being illegal...). > >In the US, maybe. >I used to work for a Canadian bank: debit first was allowed. > >People in the US have to realise that

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Sam Siegel
> > Furthermore, management is quick to point out that the IT folks > are not responsive to the "rapid change of business needs", yet > management will not fund training in new or updated technologies > for their staff (nor even for conceptual updates for themselves). > > While I'm at it, another

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Understand, with a Bank, that may be forbidden by law (debits first processing >being illegal...). In the US, maybe. I used to work for a Canadian bank: debit first was allowed. People in the US have to realise that not all of their laws apply to other countries. - Too busy driving to stop fo

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Steve Comstock
Chris Craddock wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, McKown, John < john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote: Depends. What are they running? How do they measure "up time"? We are still stuck in the 1970s for all intents and purposes. We run CICS with VSAM. No RDMS. No Websphere. 100% COBOL. We

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Craddock Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon! On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, McKown, J

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John H Kington > > John, > > > > >Visualize it with these parameters: > > > > >INCLUDE COND=(1,6,CH,GE,C'SMITH ',AND,1,6,CH,LE,C'SMYTHE') > > > > > >Show how, e.g., c'SMILEY' in positions 1 through 6 would qualify for

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread John H Kington
John, > > >Visualize it with these parameters: > > >INCLUDE COND=(1,6,CH,GE,C'SMITH ',AND,1,6,CH,LE,C'SMYTHE') > > > >Show how, e.g., c'SMILEY' in positions 1 through 6 would qualify for > >Inclusion in the output. > > SMILEY would fail because every character is the same until you hit the L but wh

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Yaeger > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:10 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Quick Sort question > > John McKown on IBM Mainframe Discussion List > wrote > on 05/25/20

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Frank Yaeger
John McKown on IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 05/25/2010 11:30:13 AM: > Still easier to use: > > INCLUDE COND=(1,9,FS,EQ,NUM) > > It is rather new, to me. > > ref: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ > ICE1CA30/3.7.14.1 Hardly new. DFSORT has had the NUM function

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>But you repeat yourself. Apple is x86 (or were you thinking of Apple ][?) Having never used an Apple, I don't know. I thought they were still Motorola chips, which are also little endian. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Chris Craddock
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, McKown, John < john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote: > Depends. What are they running? How do they measure "up time"? We are still > stuck in the 1970s for all intents and purposes. We run CICS with VSAM. No > RDMS. No Websphere. 100% COBOL. We do run some 3270 "s

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John H Kington > > John, > > > John, > > >> > > >> >INCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,9,CH,LE,C'9') > > >> > > >> That would allow '00x01'. > > > > > >How so? Any position in the field less than

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread John H Kington
John, > John, > >> > >> >INCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,9,CH,LE,C'9') > >> > >> That would allow '00x01'. > > > >How so? Any position in the field less than c'0' (x'F0') would cause > >the entire field to evaluate less than c'0', thus failing the GE > >requirement;

Re: significant bits

2010-05-25 Thread john gilmore
Paul Gilmartin, in his fullblown just-arrived-visitor-from-Mars mode, writes: | What's "left"? What's "right"? I hold between my thumb | and forefinger a memory . . . Now it would certainly be possible to represent ascending storage addresses from left to right on a page. Someone

IBM's DFHSM Health Checker

2010-05-25 Thread Ed Gould
I was looking over the latest IBM Systems Magazine and noticed an item about the IBM's "HSM Health Checker". I have only heard of another vendor's offering (and that was YEARS ago) . I am just curious as to if anyone on here has tried it and if it was worth pursuing. The article was not written

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John H Kington > > John, > >> > >> >INCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,9,CH,LE,C'9') > >> > >> That would allow '00x01'. > > > >How so? Any position in the field less than c'0' (x'F0') would cause

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread McKown, John
Still easier to use: INCLUDE COND=(1,9,FS,EQ,NUM) It is rather new, to me. ref: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA30/3.7.14.1 -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Kirk Talman
INCLUDE COND=(1,1,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,1,CH,LE,C'9',AND, 2,1,CH,GE,C'0',AND,2,1,CH,LE,C'9',AND, 3,1,CH,GE,C'0',AND,3,1,CH,LE,C'9',AND, 4,1,CH,GE,C'0',AND,4,1,CH,LE,C'9',AND, 5,1,CH,GE,C'0',AND,5,1,CH,LE,C'9',AND, 6,1,CH,GE,C'0',AND,6,1,CH,LE,C'9',AND, 7,1,CH,GE,C'0',AND,7,1,CH,LE,C'9',AND, 8,1,CH,GE,C'

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > > On 25 May 2010 10:08:09 -0700, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: > > >> >INCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,9,CH,LE,C'9') > >> > >> That would allow '00x01'. > > > >How so? A

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 May 2010 14:27:12 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>One of these days, for your sins, you will have to work in a (x86) >>little-endian world. >Byte (pair) reversal will be visited upon you. > >Not just x86 -- Solaris, Apple, DEC, HP, Honeywell, etc. have models that are >little-endian. > Bu

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Try this simple rexx: /* rexx */ lovalue = "0" hivalue = "9" /*testvalue = "0"'FA'x"000" */

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread John H Kington
John, >> >> >INCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,9,CH,LE,C'9') >> >> That would allow '00x01'. > >How so? Any position in the field less than c'0' (x'F0') would cause >the entire field to evaluate less than c'0', thus failing the GE >requirement; and any position in the

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 May 2010 10:08:09 -0700, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: >> >INCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,9,CH,LE,C'9') >> >> That would allow '00x01'. > >How so? Any position in the field less than c'0' (x'F0') would cause >the entire field to evaluate less than c'

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:23 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's > Coming Soon! > > That is interesting, but

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Actually, your definition is circular. >Yes, the digit that changes least is by definition the most significant, but >there is no need for it to be on the left. >There is no reason I could not design a logically consistent numbering system >that put the most significant digits at the right. Tr

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Kelman, Tom
That is interesting, but I thought another part of the article was more interesting. On the second page there is a heading "Governments Invest in Modernization" with the following statement. "The timing of this research is intriguing; it comes on the heels of reports that the U.S. Secret Service

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > > On 25 May 2010 09:18:33 -0700, alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov (Starr, Alan) > wrote: > > >INCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,9,CH,LE,C'9') > > That would allow '00x01'. How so? Any

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/25/2010 10:59:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ken.porow...@cit.com writes: If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it zAfterNext ? >> More likely z EOD -- For IBM-MAIN subscr

Re: significant bits

2010-05-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 May 2010 09:37:34 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: >What's "left"? What's "right"? I hold between my thumb and forefinger a >memory >chip, and with my microscopic X-ray vision I observe that the bits are numbered >left-to-right. I rotate my hand 180 degrees. Now they'

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 May 2010 09:48:27 -0700, yae...@us.ibm.com (Frank Yaeger) wrote: >It's not clear to me exactly what you want to do. Do you want to >omit records with blanks in 1-9 from the output file? Or do you >want to make sure records with blanks in 1-9 are kept but NOT >"summarized", or what? It loo

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 May 2010 09:18:33 -0700, alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov (Starr, Alan) wrote: >INCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,9,CH,LE,C'9') That would allow '00x01'. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acces

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Frank Yaeger
Howard Brazee on IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 05/25/2010 08:59:17 AM: > We have a lot of jobs that use the following SORTIN > > SORT FIELDS=(01,009,A), >FORMAT=CH > SUM FIELDS=NONE > > What is the simplest ways to change this to ensure that either we > exclude blank data or only

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Richard Pinion
zplane, zplane Richard, Vickie, and Randy Pinion --- mpac...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Pace To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon! Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 12:43:19 -0400 zTheFollowUp On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Ken Poro

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 May 2010 09:16:46 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) wrote: >Excluding blanks is easiest: > >EXCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,EQ,C' ') I've used that with SORT FIELDS=COPY. Actually, it appears that EXCLUDE won't work, it needs to be OMIT. >Including only numeric I'm not as

Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Mark Pace
zTheFollowUp On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Ken Porowski wrote: > http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/z-vendor-watch-znext-or-z11-e > ither-way-its-coming-soon > > > If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it > zAfterNext ? > > -

Re: significant bits

2010-05-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:56:52 +, john gilmore wrote: > >In fact any such decision was originally an arbitrary one and everyone's >position is chiefly a matter of which tradition he or she was first exposed >to. I am a left-to-right, zero-origin person, and it has been clear to me, >for deca

Re: JFCB PREFIX QUESTION

2010-05-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 5/25/2010 9:33 AM, clementcla...@ozemail.com.au wrote: When MVS was introduced, IEFQMRAW was used to access the JobQ, and it automatically converts addresses for us. That may be true, but the IEFQM macros were used in MFT and MVT a long time earlier. Various OS components used them, rather

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Starr, Alan
I just started so I may not yet be thinking correctly. How about: INCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,GE,C'0',AND,1,9,CH,LE,C'9') Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 08:59 To:

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread McKown, John
Excluding blanks is easiest: EXCLUDE COND=(1,9,CH,EQ,C' ') Including only numeric I'm not as sure of. You might try: INCLUDE COND=(1,9,FS,EQ,NUM) -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (81

Re: SEASIK 1.0 released

2010-05-25 Thread Paul Edwards
Wow, what a lot of misses. > *nix humor. This is after all an environment with a utility > called grep and where processes fork in order to make children. No Charles, Gerhard is MVS through and through. Nothing to do with Unix. You're right about the SEA = C though. > Well, it's certainly memor

Re: significant bits

2010-05-25 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Wow, John! Humor!!! I concur with a big grin on my face and still chuckling at the lobotomy reference! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re

Re: Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Tue, 25 May 2010 09:59:16 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: > >We have a lot of jobs that use the following SORTIN I mean SYSIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Quick Sort question

2010-05-25 Thread Howard Brazee
We have a lot of jobs that use the following SORTIN SORT FIELDS=(01,009,A), FORMAT=CH SUM FIELDS=NONE What is the simplest ways to change this to ensure that either we exclude blank data or only include numeric IDs here? ---

z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

2010-05-25 Thread Ken Porowski
http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/z-vendor-watch-znext-or-z11-e ither-way-its-coming-soon If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it zAfterNext ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive ac

Re: significant bits

2010-05-25 Thread john gilmore
The original Kirk-Spock Star Trek sequence included an episode in which the two protagonists, both were both black and white, one with a black left side and a white right white side and the other with a white left side a black right side, pursued each other, noisily, across the universe and down

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Charles Mills
True, but the leftmost bit might not be called bit 0. That's the point of this discussion. You could call it bit 8 or, for that matter, bit a or bit i. Actually, your definition is circular. Yes, the digit that changes least is by definition the most significant, but there is no need for it to be

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 25 May 2010 14:25:04 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >The left-most digit in any base is the most significant because >it changes the least as you count up. >It also gives you the order of magnitude. No, the order of magnitude is determined by the number of significant digits. Or, in the case

Re: How many LPARs in a ring ?

2010-05-25 Thread Scott Rowe
I have to agree with Shane here. You're pain shouldn't increase too greatly going from 4 to 5, as long as you are using ACCELSYS(sp?) and other options properly, but you really should consider creating a shared CF to make to move to STAR. As long as you are using it only for GRS (and maybe JES

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>One of these days, for your sins, you will have to work in a (x86) >little-endian world. Byte (pair) reversal will be visited upon you. Not just x86 -- Solaris, Apple, DEC, HP, Honeywell, etc. have models that are little-endian. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>So, continuing that thought, Bit0 is always the "most significant bit" It's not just in binary. The left-most digit in any base is the most significant because it changes the least as you count up. It also gives you the order of magnitude. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

table-controlled partitionning (after the v8) and index-controlled parttionning

2010-05-25 Thread CUNY Yann
Hello For DB2 Z/OS What's the diffrence beetween table-controlled partitionning (after the v8) and index-controlled parttionning ? What are the advantage / disadvantage ? Why to have implemented the table-controlled partitionning ? ---

Re: How many LPARs in a ring ?

2010-05-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>We have a z10 BC K03. GRS star, which means CF, which means Parallel Sysplex, >is not an option. Response gets exponential with GRS ring as you add systems to the ring. I haven't done RING with more than 4 systems, and we had to convert to STAR because of response issues. Admittedly, this was

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Charles Mills
Actually they are two separate issues. I worked on a CDC minicomputer that was big-endian but their literature nonetheless numbered the bits from least to most significant. When I questioned this -- having been brought up on the IBM convention of numbering from the most significant -- the CDC folks

Re: JFCB PREFIX QUESTION

2010-05-25 Thread Charles Mills
You are at risk in using the "address" of the JFCB in the TIOT. It might be an address and it might not. It IS however always a "SWA virtual address token." Pass it to the SWAREQ macro (probably documented in Authorized Macros but does not require authorization) and voila! Get back an address yo

Re: How many LPARs in a ring ?

2010-05-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 May 2010 06:29:36 -0700, Walter Marguccio wrote: >> I really have no idea how expensive CA-MIM is, but if performance is >> not acceptable, you may want to consider it. >No, MIM is not an option. I understand. It's hard to beat "free". >> With 4 systems in your ring, you are p

Re: JFCB PREFIX QUESTION

2010-05-25 Thread clementcla...@ozemail.com.au
Kenneth J. Kripke wrote: > Hello; > I was curious what the 16 bytes in front of the JFCB is. I extract the 3 byte ADDRESS of the JFCB > from the TIOT, and, then need to step past a 16 byte area in front of the actual JFCB. What is contained in the 16 byte area? > I have tried to make some

Re: How many LPARs in a ring ?

2010-05-25 Thread Walter Marguccio
> I really have no idea how expensive CA-MIM is, but if performance is > not acceptable, you may want to consider it. No, MIM is not an option. > With 4 systems in your ring, you are probably already pushing the limits. That was my fear. > I recall (years ago, before XCF) a client of mine add

Re: How many LPARs in a ring ?

2010-05-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Shane Ginnane" wrote in message news:<1274781293.4bfb9e6da6...@postoffice.tpg.com.au>... > Within the one CEC, adding one more is probably no big deal. > We ran across two sites (~10km) - and DB2 starts were awful. Especially more than one system > coming up together after a PoR. > TSO logon pro

Re: How many LPARs in a ring ?

2010-05-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 May 2010 03:54:53 -0700, Walter Marguccio wrote: >> TSO logon procs with large DD lists is also a no-no - see Toms dynamic stuff to help there. >Luckily we have a handful of TSO users here, and Toms dynamic stuff ia already in place. > Shared catalogs on HCD defined SHARED volumes ge

Installation problems with z/OS V1.11 Serverpac

2010-05-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
We are having problems with running the CUSTOMPAC dialog to install z/OS V1.11. This was just downloaded and order in April 2010. IBM states that FASTCOPY from CA-PDSMAN causes issues. Does anyone know of any issues with using FASTCOPY instead of IEBCOPY? Second, does anyone know of a packagi

RMDS Secured Reports with Top Secret

2010-05-25 Thread Randy Hoekstra
[Also posted to RACF-L] I'm looking for RMDS users that have secured reports using CA TopSecret. The RMDS documentation refers specifically to RACF rather than "security subsystem" or SAF. We have figured out how to secure the report but not how to provide selective access. ---

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Ginnane
One of these days, for your sins, you will have to work in a (x86) little-endian world. Byte (pair) reversal will be visited upon you. Shane ... On Tue, May 25th, 2010 at 10:58 PM, "Chase, John" wrote: > So, continuing that thought, Bit0 is always the "most significant > bit" and: > > Bit7

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Alexander M Brash1 > > > > Hi list, > > > > I think I'm having a brain drain this morning (or just need another > > cof

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 May 2010 06:23:41 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: >>When zFS file systems are mounted R/O in a shared file system environment, >>read requests don't have to be function shipped to the owning system. But >>the same applies to HFS. Is there another performance benefit you are >>referring t

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Alexander M Brash1 > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 7:28 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Significant Bits > > Hi list, > > I think I'm having a brain drain this morning (or just

Re: Significant Bits

2010-05-25 Thread Rob Scott
> The rightmost bit is bit 0 right? No - Bit0 is the left-most bit Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailt

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