Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:04:53 +0100, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote:
Bruce rockridge...@gmail.com wrote in message
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:12:04 -0400 Joe Aulph syspro...@gmail.com wrote:
:My intent is to construct a proper SYSIN statement and Call IDCAMS using my
:SYSIN, this I have done.
:After IDCAMS is finished I should have some SYSPRINT which I would massage
:after the call to IDCAMS, ie... not using the
Hi Joe,
As I understand your problem, you have progressed beyond the S0C4 when
invoking IDCAMS dynamically, but are now faced with the situation that
SYSPRINT does not flow elegantly as you would expect.
If this is the case it may be nothing to do with the calling rogram, but a
problem with the
Is there a way in batch to issue a console command and direct the output to a
file
Like d m
Or any other standard display command
Thanks,
Tim Brown
Systems Specialist - Project Leader
Central Hudson Gas Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: tbr...@cenhud.com
cross posted to IBM-MAIN and CICS-L.
We have an application which uses the CICS Sockets interface to provide us
with a WUI interface for our CICS application. One of our clients has just
upgraded to z/OS 1.12 (in test) and is experiencing a hang when trying to
use the WUI interface. The end
The best way is to use TSO console command in a REXX and trap output. Have
a look at SYS1.SAMPLIB(IEATOPS) for REXX sample.
ITschak
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com wrote:
Is there a way in batch to issue a console command and direct the output
to a file
Like d
Look at the TSO CONSOLE command and the GETMSG service.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:41:44 -0400 Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com wrote:
:Is there a way in batch to issue a console command and direct the output to a
file
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:Like d m
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:Or any other standard display command
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:Thanks,
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I could say the same thing about shell scripts..
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Feels like a Requirement. But I'd prefer that JCL just go away.
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We have an application which uses the CICS Sockets interface to provide
us
with a WUI interface for our CICS application. One of our clients has
just
upgraded to z/OS 1.12 (in test) and is experiencing a hang when trying
to
use the
Yes, I have seen that but I don't see how it helps in our case. There is
no mention of z/OS 1.12 in there and as I said, the application works
without any problem on z/OS 1.10.
But Thanks anyway.
Jim McAlpine
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.comwrote:
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I could say the same thing about shell scripts..
snip
or, get into output of ispf 3.4
tab down to whatever dsn you're interested in
type isrddn e to the left of that dsn
hit enter
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In 6442ee4144ffd84994f99462bcc8a...@mail.cenhud.com, on 11/01/2011
at 06:41 AM, Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com said:
Is there a way in batch to issue a console command and direct the
output to a file
Batch TSO, using the CONSOLE command. You need to involve your
security folks to configure the
In
93891f43642f3c419a7d75acc2b1db6f3c04e1e...@exchangemb2.dhs.state.ia.us,
on 10/31/2011
at 03:52 PM, Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us said:
So I wonder: is there any possibility of my invoking z/OS JES3
routines to fully resolve JCL source? I know that the JCL
Converter/Interpreter
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00b038bb...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 10/31/2011
at 04:07 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
So I wonder if it would be possible to use HLASM and AREAD (to read
the JCL in the HLASM sysin stream) and use AINSERT to reinsert it as
a macro
In
ca+vt6kpukk5fengnp-_mzwq7vxany9g-sp0t2ddz8c7hxcw...@mail.gmail.com,
on 10/31/2011
at 03:12 PM, Joe Aulph syspro...@gmail.com said:
LAR1,VGCARGL
LINK EP=IDCAMS,PARAM=options,VL=1 Options pointing to a half word
of binary zeros.
Why the LA? Look at the macro expansion. Also, PARAM
In 1320105062.4229.yahoomailmob...@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on
10/31/2011
at 04:51 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said:
You really need to look. At the IDCAMS book on how to invoke IDCAMS.
From a iffy memory R1 points to a list of DDNAMES like SYSIN1 and
SYSRINT2 but you have to look at
In
351fdc6ace57d14b94beb5529e85df8e91b04b7...@exchmail1.courts.wa.gov,
on 10/31/2011
at 10:04 AM, Longnecker, Dennis dennis.longnec...@courts.wa.gov
said:
Can someone point me to the right place to find the documentation on
how to create large SVCDUMP datasets?
SMS. I don't know whether SDUMP
In DA318920B9244C388DAFF6C0D16D6E12@duke1, on 10/31/2011
at 03:51 PM, Dave Day david...@consolidated.net said:
I don't understand. What needs to be done with SMS? SMS was active
on the originating 1.10 system, and is active on the 1.12 system.
Active with what ACS and storage groups?
I had
In 6852960314977631.wa.anthony.santous.ngrid@bama.ua.edu, on
10/31/2011
at 01:18 PM, Tony Santo anthony.sa...@us.ngrid.com said:
Does anyone have any idea how to copy or ftp load pds mods to a
laptop and then copy or ftp back to z/os?
Laptop running what?[1] If it's running a z simulator
In 0627264642605165.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
10/31/2011
at 04:04 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
So far in this thread, no one has mentioned AMATERSE.
Does it handle directory information for load modules?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
What would somebody do with comments? In general, what should be done with then
when doing an XREF on JCL? Personally, I'd ignore them. Mainly because I don't
know what would be reasonable. Eg:
//SOMEDD DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MACLIB(READ) SOME COMMENT
What should be done with the string SOME
From the manual:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2v1c0/17.0
quote
AMATERSE supports Direct Access Storage Device (DASD) and tape data sets:
Sequential data sets, which can be unpacked by VM TERSE.
Partitioned data sets (PDS), and partitioned data sets
I do it all the time. With catalog displays and some other system
displays, I log the output daily to a dataset in batch. Some of the
command displays are not able to be captured by the REXX TRAP command, but
this works find for me.
This works on TSO. Other versions are for batch, inside
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Thanks to all that have contributed to this thread. To summarize what I have
heard so far, there seems to be two basic ideas:
(1) Post Process the JES Messages to extract the expanded JCL after a
TYPRUN=SCAN or EXEC PGM=JCLTEST.
(2) Use EXEC PGM=JSTTEST to generate special messages in the JES
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For those who wonder what you get with EXEC PGM=JSTTEST, see below:
First the original JCL:
//COMPEXEC PROC=COBPDS,MBR=S470N125,
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John,
Of course you are correct, but, if this is a production type JCL or perhaps
compile and link or some other proc then it is reasonable at least to me to
have comments in a section so perhaps it is reasonable to have comments
between steps or between dd statements.
Ed
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Thanks to all that have contributed to this thread. To
summarize
Of course, if you don't know Perl or awk, this become problematic. I may give
a look at this. But I need to download some of the JESJCL portions of some
jobs that I've run. In the words of Arnold: I'll be back!
I am one of those mile wide, inch deep kind of guys. So never more than a
brief
In spite of several tries, I can't seem to post any of my EXEC PGM=JSTTEST
results to the list. At my installation we have this thing called Tumbleweed
Secure Messenger. When I send messages outside my own domain, this software
makes a decision: should I pass the message text thru unchanged,
Personally, I put in a comment line near the top in jobs and procs
that had //**SOURCE DATA.SET.NAME(MEMBER) in it. Kind of hard to
enforce but maybe an JES exit could generate it?
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:
John,
Of course you are correct, but, if this
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So if anyone is able to retrieve the text of my message with the IAT4812
messages, could they copy them as plain text and post to the list?
As per request:
The
I've existing Rexx code to scan and resolve JCL, PROCS, SYMBOLS, INCLUDES etc.
It was written for jes2, I'm not aware that jes3 would make that much
difference, anybody?
The code is more of a library that I re-use. I'll need to create a stand alone
program.
How quickly would you (all) like
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So if anyone is able to retrieve the text of my message with
First, I'm a little confused. You guys never changed your clock in the past? If
so, than how/why would NTP make a difference?
Second, if the application is intolerant to the time change, then, well, it is
intolerant. It's not so much that it will see 1 am twice, but it will also see
1:01,
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:59:56 -0500, Roberts, John J wrote:
The first idea is the most obvious and one I had already considered.
Basically it becomes a problem of matching the IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL
messages against the XX and X/ lines in the listing. This would be a PITA to
do in COBOL, a
JES cannot determine how it was passed to the internal reader. Now, such a line
could be inserted for jobs submitted via the TSO SUBMIT command is the IKJEFT53
exit. I have a horrible one to enforce standards.
--
John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
IT
Administrative Services Group
HealthMarkets®
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 12:10:40 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
JES cannot determine how it was passed to the internal reader. Now, such a
line could be inserted for jobs submitted via the TSO SUBMIT command is the
IKJEFT53 exit. I have a horrible one to enforce standards.
And, of course, not all jobs
Julian,
If you are scanning the original source and doing the library fetches to
resolve PROCs and INCLUDES, I should think the JES2/JES3 differences would be
minor.
If you are scanning the JESLOG for the expanded JCL listing, there might be a
bit more work, but I should still think that a
John
Thanks for the jes2/3 info. I suspected as much but needed confirmation.
I originally wrote a JCL expander over 15 years ago! That was another employer
alas and I've reinvented that wheel again.
By expand JCL I mean handle symbolics, embed EXEC/INCLUDE PROCs even embed
sysins with
Getting this on a home grown session manager. It shows 9.7 M out of 10 M
allocated below and 90 M above. We have an IEFUSI installed. I suspect the
problem is below the line since the session manager normally uses under 2 M.
Some are speculating it LSQA is the problem, but if that were the
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Getting this on a home grown session manager. It shows 9.7 M out of
10 M allocated below and 90 M above. We have an IEFUSI installed. I
suspect the problem is
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:31:29 +, Henke, George wrote:
Getting this on a home grown session manager. It shows
9.7 M out of 10 M allocated below and 90 M above. We have
an IEFUSI installed. I suspect the problem is below the line
since the session manager normally uses under 2 M.
Some are
On 11/1/2011 7:59 AM, Roberts, John J wrote:
(2) The message for the step has very little information. For example, the
program name is omitted.
I imagine they decided it would not be useful to print 'PGM=JSTTEST'. You knew
that already. ;-)
(3) For DDNAMES, only the first 20 characters
I see said the blind man.
I probably sohuld have included this at first:
The variations I was working with.
*LOAD EP=IDCAMS,
*LRR15,R0 ,
*CALL (15),VGCARGL,VL
*LAR1,VGCARGL , R1 = IDCAMS ARGUMENT LIST
At this installation we have a business rules engine from a company called
Corticon. The interface to the Corticon servers is via SOAP web services. We
also have Windows Web Servers that expose ASP.Net Web Services.
We need to be able to access these web services from Batch COBOL programs. I
John,
As you point out, the cost of creating a Java JVM in a batch COBOL jobstep
can be a problem. For short running jobs, or ones that only need to make
a couple of WS calls, it may not make sense. For long running COBOL jobs
that make many calls, you can start a JVM and then reuse it so
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John
Thanks for the jes2/3 info. I suspected as much but
Depending on which way you go a specialty engine(ZaaP/Ziip) may be a
bargain.
In a message dated 11/1/2011 4:17:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
k...@dovetail.com writes:
a couple of WS calls, it may not make sense. For long running COBOL jobs
that make many calls, you can start a JVM
Thanks all.teach me for not keeping up with JCL parameters and knowing
DSNTYPE=LARGE was actually a JCL option!
Putting
// DSNTYPE=LARGE,
In my allocation did the trick!
Dennis
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