Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-12-19 23:52, Henke, George pisze: Offloading VTAPE to zIIP would not be so bad, no? No. (my opinion) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote in message news:20111220123112.2a437a52@xpfs... On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:20:16 -0500 Tom Russell wrote: PR/SM dispatches Logical CPs not Logical Partitions. I wonder if it'd be considered churlish to point out this wasn't always the case. Shane ...

Re: Abend in LE - S0C1 at CEEHSFXS+310

2011-12-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Yes, I saw that. It is happening on a CEEHHDLR call. There was previous COBOL but they all ended. Running LEDATA against the SVCDUMP I generated does not indicate any LE or stack errors. On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:49:43 -0500 Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: :Data at PSW is :

RC4 encryption type supported on Kerberos z/OS ?

2011-12-20 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi RC4 encryption type supported on Kerberos z/OS ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-20 Thread Richard Pinion
AMEN my brother! Richard and Vickie Pinion --- shai.h...@gmail.com wrote: From: shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:52:14 +0200 MFNetDisk also support tapeless solution for emulated tapes. MFNetDisk tape

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-20 Thread Steve Dover
George, Does it have to be IBM? Per Radoslaw's last post, we are using Bustech MDL 1000 with Data Domain back end storage. We are a fairly small shop, and up to 2 weeks ago we had about 5 TBs of data on tape. Most of that was Mobius View Direct archives. We just went through the Arcmover

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread McKown, John
A churl is a very old word for a peasant or free man. But became to be used for someone who has no manners or breeding. To be churlish is to have bad manners. Like telling a new mom: That is one ugly baby! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churl quote This meaning held through the 15th century, but

Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread John Gilmore
Mike Schwab wrote: begin snippet Actually, the Islamic calendar is 12 lunar months of 29.5 days on average. So it is shorter than a solar year by about 11 days and the 1st day of the year cycles through the solar year about every 34 or so years. /end snippet and his point in fact makes mine.

Re: WAIT ECB WITH 00 First Byte

2011-12-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofa7a4bf57.9ffc0779-on8525796a.001e8ead-8525796a.00233...@us.ibm.com, on 12/18/2011 at 01:24 AM, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com said: I could not find anything in the manuals which says this, but it has worked this way for at least 30 years. It's worked that way since the 1960's, although

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1eef...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 12/19/2011 at 09:29 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: You don't have to wait for it, you can also force it. Amdahl's MDF did it. The main difference was that PR/SM is interrupt driven and MDF was

Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In f255efe0ecf08c4a9c1db6aff423541717de3...@ch2wpmail1.na.ds.ussco.com, on 12/19/2011 at 01:47 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said: Why not specify the epoch origin as the Big Bang? Because there are insurmountable theoretical difficulties in clock synchronization and insurmountable

Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 20111219091748.715752d5f...@urania.ugcs.caltech.edu, on 12/19/2011 at 01:17 AM, glen herrmannsfeldt g...@ugcs.caltech.edu said: But if I understand it right, the date is computed from the value in the interval timer, along with various offsets, only when it is actually needed. Do you

Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cajtoo5_sojvvt4dmwbn6pa6wb5gk92jq56vwuk4qez6viv0...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/19/2011 at 02:03 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: Actually, I think they are going to have to downgrade the Big Bang (creating all matter and the Universe) to a Large Bang (creating known matter withing

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Are you serious? Kees. Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote in message news:20111220144901.d5dcaf58...@smtp.patriot.net... In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1eef...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 12/19/2011 at 09:29 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Martin Packer
Chaucer spelt it cherl. Martin Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog:

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1eef...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 12/20/2011 at 04:15 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: Are you serious? Certainly. If I recall correctly, MDF was implemented in what Amdahl called macrocode, not by dedicated hardware. So what

Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Muslims. --Original Message-- From: John Gilmore Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production Sent: 20 Dec 2011 09:47 Mike Schwab wrote: begin snippet Actually,

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Of course, but I suppose you know what I meant: PR/SM sits waiting for an LPAR to produce an interrupt and decides then what to do next. MDF determines that it wants to take action after a certain timeslice, whether the domains like it or not. The fact that the end of the timeslice might be

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: Certainly. If I recall correctly, MDF was implemented in what Amdahl called macrocode, not by dedicated hardware. So what triggered the redispatch at the end of a time slice if not an external interrupt? the guys doing MDF use to

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:14:36 -0500, Shmuel Metz wrote: How did MDF detect the end of a timeslice if not by an interrupt? That is how it detected the end of a time slice. Early MDF code would dispatch a different domain as soon as a processor entered a wait state. That was determined to cause

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:33:14 -0500, Shmuel Metz wrote: If I recall correctly, MDF was implemented in what Amdahl called macrocode, That's correct. Very similar to the millicode on current IBM mainframes. A superset of 370 instructions that ran in system state. not by dedicated hardware.

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Steve Thompson
Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote in message news:20111220123112.2a437a52@xpfs... On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 09:20:16 -0500 Tom Russell wrote: PR/SM dispatches Logical CPs not Logical Partitions. SNIPPAGE - I am quite sure that pr/sm always dispatched Logical CPs and Amdahls MDF dispatched entire

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:19:35 +0100, Vernooij, CP wrote: I am quite sure that pr/sm always dispatched Logical CPs and Amdahls MDF dispatched entire domains (their word for lpar). If by dispatched entire domains you mean that all of the logical processors for a domain were always dispatched

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1eef...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 12/20/2011 at 04:53 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: Of course, but I suppose you know what I meant: You're welcome to suppose what you wish. Just don't be surprised when your suppositions are wrong

Re: Questions on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread John Gilmore
From Martin Packer: | Chaucer spelt it cherl. He did indeed, and he explicated his use of it very neatly in | For vileyns sinful deeds make a cherl. in which vileyn/villein/villain is not yet pejorative. Shane's use was, I think, the more modern, now standard one that makes churlish is a

FTP PUT of temporary files possible?

2011-12-20 Thread Donald Johnson
Hi all! Does anyone know if or how it is possible to PUT temporary files (filenm) using FTP in z/OS? Thanks for the information! *don* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: FTP PUT of temporary files possible?

2011-12-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Donald Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FTP PUT of temporary files possible? Hi all! Does anyone know if or how it is possible to

Re: FTP PUT of temporary files possible?

2011-12-20 Thread Ulrich Krueger
You mean something like this? //STEP9 EXEC PGM=FTP,PARM='(EXIT TIMEOUT 600' //RPTVLTF DD DISP=(OLD),DSN=VLTF //RPTDRDD DISP=(OLD),DSN=DR //OUTPUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //INPUTDD * Id Password PUT //DD:RPTVLTF VLTF.TXT PUT

Re: FTP PUT of temporary files possible?

2011-12-20 Thread McKown, John
Rats! got the parms to the PUT reversed in the previous email. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Donald Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FTP PUT of temporary files

Re: FTP PUT of temporary files possible?

2011-12-20 Thread Donald Johnson
Thanks Ulrich and John...I was so intent on thinking of the filename, I had forgotten the //DD functionality...I will give this a go! Thanks, danke, Merry Christmas und Frohe Weihnachten! *don* On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Ulrich Krueger u...@pacbell.net wrote: You mean something like

Re: Question on PR/SM dispatcher

2011-12-20 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote in message news:20111220170650.bceecf58...@smtp.patriot.net... In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1eef...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 12/20/2011 at 04:53 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: Of course, but I

Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Mike Schwab
That is where the Modified Julian Date comes in by subtracting 1/2 day os 0.000 is midnight and 0.500 is noon. Swatch time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time and watchs are almost the same thing, but they are using Central Europe time of UTC+1. 0100Z = @000 On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at

Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Muslims. The Jewish calendear might be worse. They use leap months to keep the calendar roughly aligned with the season. But after a leap month, your year to year comparisons of the weather on a certain day of the year

TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread shai hess
HI, I have a customer question: 1. How could I configure MFNetDisk in ZOS in order to use ONLY the IP 192.168.254.200, instead of 192.168.254.254, because the last one is used for production traffic? MFNetDIsk uses TCP EZASMI API. Can I run 2 TCPIP procedure running together? TCPIP which

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread Itschak Mugzach
You can run several IP stacks in the same lpar. ITschak On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:45 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote: HI, I have a customer question: 1. How could I configure MFNetDisk in ZOS in order to use ONLY the IP 192.168.254.200, instead of 192.168.254.254, because the

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Now, as I have asked a few times yet I don't quite get it, why do you need multiple stacks? Ok, I have my own personal mainframe, what can I accomplish with multiple tcp/ip stacks, and to have the, what is it called, something affinity?, in any case, there is a default and another choice.

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread Wolfgang Fritz
Am 20.12.2011 19:45, schrieb shai hess: HI, I have a customer question: 1. How could I configure MFNetDisk in ZOS in order to use ONLY the IP 192.168.254.200, instead of 192.168.254.254, because the last one is used for production traffic? MFNetDIsk uses TCP EZASMI API. Can I

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread Ward, Mike S
You can use the SRCIP in the tcpprof SRCIP JOBNAME S250XXXD 172.26.1.1 JOBNAME XXXA 172.27.1.65 JOBNAME YYYR 172.27.1.65 ENDSRCIP You can also bind at the port level if you want PORT 21 TCP FTPD1 BIND 172.26.1.1;FTP Server 23 TCP TN3270 ; Telnet 3270 Server

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread shai hess
Thank you. I think that this can be the best answer for my case. Just to make it sure. If ZOS is the client (source) and PC is the (destination). If client ic MF want to connect and send data to PC, then if I will specify in MF TCPIP address space SRCIP JOBNAME MFNetDisk 172.26.1.1 ENDSRCIP Is it

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
first, as always, I do NOT speak for SAS. I am just another contributor to this list, mostly I just learn. I contribute when I can, but alas it isn't as often as I would like. it is sometimes called the stack affinity. Google it a bit. you need to know MUCH more about how to get the

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread Lindy Mayfield
don't stop here. please dig deeper. this isn't in my opinion the answer you are looking for. Most kind regards, Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of shai hess Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:42 PM To:

Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cajtoo5-fmja5w5yauc_h-u_rd1aosqr3zrn9q_ncwnduq7p...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/20/2011 at 12:40 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: The Jewish calendear might be worse. They use leap months to keep the calendar roughly aligned with the season. There are also smaller adjustments such

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread Ward, Mike S
Shai, I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of shai hess Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TCPIP question Thank you. I think that this can

Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread John Gilmore
Coping with the Jewish calendar in fact provides an excellent vehicle for learning to do date arithmetic in general. Among the not quite obvious pitfalls: There are Jewish holidays that, at long intervals, do not occur at all in some Gregorian year, and there are others that occur, again

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread Chris Mason
Shai As I have already reminded Lindy Mayfield, the best list for this sort of query is the following: For IBMTCP-L subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO IBMTCP-L - I detect that you are not very comfortable with the

Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 20:38 -0600 on 12/16/2011, Chris Mason wrote about Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production: Mike Just think about all the people born on Feb 29th. They would have their 15th birthdate when they are 60 years old. Paradoxically a 29th February birthday can have happy consequences

Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 23:02 -0600 on 12/19/2011, Joel C. Ewing wrote about Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production: There are of course other strong arguments against universal usage of JD for dates any time in our lifetime. As long as we remain an Earth-centric and not a space-centric culture, that

Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 22:44 -0600 on 12/18/2011, David Mierowsky wrote about Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production: At least they didn't have to deal with this! Thankfully this was sorted out long before computers were around! The Changes of 1752 In accordance with a 1750 act of Parliament, England and

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread Chris Mason
Lindy I recalled there had been a recent discussion regarding the desirability or otherwise of using more that one instance of the IP component of z/OS Communications Server supported by the same z/OS (in one LPAR obviously). Then I checked - and, in terms of list-craft, it's a bit of a mess!

Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com wrote: At 20:38 -0600 on 12/16/2011, Chris Mason wrote about Re: Imagine dealing with THIS in production: Paradoxically a 29th February birthday can have happy consequences - at least in the fertile imagination of a writer

Re: Imagine having to deal with THIS in production

2011-12-20 Thread John Gilmore
Robert A. Rosenberg writes: begin snippet . . . There is also the issue that in some calenders the date of New Year's Day (ie: When the new year starts) is not a fixed number of days from the start of the year but needs to be decided at the last moment by an official who issues his ruling. /end

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread shai hess
Thank you Chris and others, I will continue if I will need with the proper forum. I thought that the answer to my customer can be simple by changing some parameters in the TCPIP option file. Anyway, I thought that changing parameter in TCP can better balance the OSA HW between production load

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Am I the only one who read the subject line too quickly, mentally substituting an o for the a and dropping the first e? I must be regressing. Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect

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2011-12-20 Thread shai hess
HI, Another email from Spain. I assume that more then 90% of the MF users never heard about MFNetDisk. I only publish my product in this forum and sometime in the past in Hercules forum. So, the product is spread by old and happy users to new users and that make me happy. Some people offer

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-20 Thread shai hess
Yes, I also read it as TOPLESS, so I smile. I hope I did not make to myself bad name, more then before. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: Am I the only one who read the subject line too quickly, mentally substituting an o for the a and dropping

Re: TCPIP question

2011-12-20 Thread shai hess
Thanks, Shai On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Michael Klaeschen michael.klaesc...@deutscherring.de wrote: I think yes, the answer is simple by changing some parameters in the TCPIP options file. To be precise: your objective of limiting access to IP addresses or ports can be achieved with