Bob, if may, does this mean a 3390 mod 9 definition in an I/O gen also
works for mod 27 and 54? ...and that you may mix mod 3s, 9s, 27s, on a
single controller of consecutive disk addresses?
It does, and we do.
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good pension. In the private sector, most pensions are long gone.
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With modern DASD we emulate 3390s. I see little harm, nor little good, in
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So if IBM wouldn't license their software for PSI systems, then where
is the problem? I'm sure there is one, just I don't see it (yet).
It's a huge problem for PSI because it renders their product useless. If
you aren't PSI or don't have a PSI processor, it's a non-problem.
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to Phil for
providing the link).
Why does anyone sue anyone else? If you are PSI you certainly won't
agree with IBM; if you do you are out of business. IBM on the other hand
wants to protect its intellectual property and its business. The court
will decide who is right.
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How about LLA? It was implemented on at least 1 S/370-158 that I know
of in the LA basin under OS/MVS. Is it the next thing to be patented?
I can't speak to LLA, but VLF has been patented. I didn't think LLA
existed in any form until MVS/XA.
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I guess it's been to long staring at this
I guess I'm missing something. Why all this anguish? Open a
problem with the vendor and let them solve it. Since you
don't have the source, you can't fix it.
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CNT channel extender? Or do a Google search on channel
extender
I've used CNT at two companies. They're expensive but do
the job. At the first company the remote drives were about
1200 miles away.
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I have been exposed to two different channel extenders over the
years
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these were attached to either a 4341 or a 168 ( 3033))
Ed - Your experience with extenders occurred over 20 years ago. This
falls into the category of AFH and is not relevant to modern equipment.
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In 1.8 pass phrases (aka long passwords) can be up to 100 characters.
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An unused unit of storage must be examined, determined
that it is unused and actions (statistics) are taken
for unused storage. If this storage is just not there,
less activity is needed.
But there should be less paging and hence reduced paging overhead.
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There is no charge for a Linux license.
Unless you only run free software, there will be a charge
for middleware.
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Hmmm. z/OS 1.8 still doesn't have this right, either.
All MVS services will get the time from the TOD clock which is set
during IPL. In addition to the PTFs you mentioned there are Java PTFs
available and PK24076 for LE.
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I have tried to talk to IBM support about unsupported systems and they
have refused to even start the conversation
That's what unsupported means. No support contract, no conversation.
This does not preclude you from searching IBMLINK and pulling PTFs
for known problems.
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Seems OK now.
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We use Dave Cole's SCHEDRUN freeware. It works well for simple
scheduling tasks. It's available for download at www.colesoft.com.
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I found a copy of this presentation at:
http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/infolib/SHARE72-O324-O325-O326.pdf
Just remember that this is an historical document. It describes how
things were in 1989. Certain things have probably changed so read it
with a grain of salt.
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Can anyone tell me, or point me to a site where I can find out for
myself, if OS/390 1.3 will run on a z9 BC as well as it does on a
Multiprise 2003/103.
We've run OS/390 2.10 as a VM Guest on a z9. That's as far back as we've
gone.
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The CPF services are a fairly recent (ahem) addition and some legacy
software may not have been updated to use CPF to register the prefixes.
Brand new. Can't be more than 15 years old. ;-)
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Were either of them at the recent SHARE?
Mark was there Greg was not.
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is very slim.
Having worked with Cole Software quite a bit, I suspect that any
organization faced with the aforementioned problem could contact Dave
and work something out. Most vendors are used to issues with Accounts
Payable.
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Unfortunately 256Mb for Java may be low. Configure real storage and aux
appropriately and live with the new order.
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Anybody know if Session 2829-z/OS Maintenance Best Practices is
available on the web or a pdf?
www.share.org. Look in the Tampa Proceedings.
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No. IBM won't sell a product that has been withdrawn from marketing. If
you copy OS/VS COBOL to another system you are obliged to inform IBM.
IBM will charge for the use of the product, but you cannot order another
copy from IBM.
Bob Shannon (who has tried
Flooding SPE (OA17514) take care of this problem?
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Then again, given what a f*ck-up 6.1 was with star-join ...
DB2 6.1 is AFH Shane.
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AFH ???
Ancient History
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Sam - Web access works OK for me.
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IBMLINK has become a %^$ing disaster. Some IBM executive should take
ownership of this problem and fix it. IBM ought to be embarrassed.
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button twice. If you do, MVS may not be able to
see the devices without CE intervention. You can probably guess how I
know this.
We are prepared to stay with the DS6800, and will probably add a second
unit sometime this year.
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Thought IP (NJE) was brought out in z/OS1.7??
1.7 for JES2. 1.8 for JES3.
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JES£ is covered together with JES2, RSCS and VSE/POWER and searching for JES3
yields 67 hits.
Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to say. JES3 support for NJE over
TCP was provided in 1.8. It doesn't matter what was discussed prior to that,
the support came with 1.8.
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cases. I usually run TERSE/UNTERSE with REGION=0M. Workfiles are
not specified.
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SHARE doesn't have near the impact that the zBLC has
Very true, and a major change from the old days. IBM sponsors the zBLC.
SHARE still has some influence with IBM, but the zBLC has major
influence. It's hard to fault IBM for listening to the customers who
spend the most money.
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Board wants to attract architects
and executives who will address higher level issues. It sounds
suspiciously like GUIDE Engage.
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IBM, not through IBM-MAIN.
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XMIT the PDSE to a flat file. FTP (binary) the Xmitted file. RECEIVE the
file on the target system.
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absolutely, positively couldn't be down.
When the application owners were given the cost, their
reaction was we don't need continuous availability - we need
damn good availability.
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Years ago IBM had something called TCAM (a teleprocessing access method WITH
QUEUEING). Well, after twenty years, guess what MQ series is?
I've been telling people that for years. Most never heard of TCAM.
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to convert from either service units or from CPU time to MIPS. Most shops use
something like SAS to produce the reports. Personally I think sticking with
service units is much easier.
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#6...I could be wrong. I can't seem to do this anymore.
3.4
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Or:
1. Have unique job classes on each system
2. Set up WLM scheduling environments
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Does anybody (perhaps Ed) know the CVTOSLVL bit for HBB7750
All of the pubs are available online.
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It seems to me that people wouldn't have gone through the effort of writing
code to list name/tokens if there was an easier way to accomplish what they
needed. If vendors waited for IBM to produce GUPI interfaces for everything
they need, there would be no vendor code.
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I just logged on ShopZ, and guess what? 1.10 shows up as orderable.
This is normal. Your order will be queued until the GA date.
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there was more expensive per square foot than in Chicago.
IBM moved to a mobile model. They provide temporary cubicles for when
people have to come into the office; otherwise most people work from
home.
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such at AT +12C if the instructions is a LG
XDC is an excellent product. That doesn't alter the fact that TSO Test
ought to support 64-bit code.
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worse today. That's one of the reasons costs have gone up so
much,.
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Wow! I guess Europe is really behind!
I saw my last 3380 over 15 years ago.
Some shops choose to emulate 3380s on modern Dasd to avoid converting
geometry-sensitive data. At my previous job we had a few emulated-3380s
that contained BDAM files
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?
The TSO Commands manual only discusses the commands that are built in to
TSO. ISPF, like SDSF, is a separate product from TSO and therefore is
not documented in the TSO manual.
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I haven't attended SHARE in 12 or more years.
Gee Don, how's it look for Baltimore this summer?
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was done to reduce head
movement. As someone already pointed out, since all modern DASD is
backed by SCSI drives, positioning the VTOC on a logical 3390 is
useless. Put everything up front and don't worry about it.
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did not make those comments. I presume they were made by
another Bob with SHARE experience.
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at their
problems - this is probably 12 or more years ago. Then there was a
sudden push by IBM to have customers upgrade to the newest release. It
turns out they lost the source for the older release and couldn't
support it. That may have pushed IBM to move TCP/IP it to a mainstream
development lab.
Bob
Over the last couple of days I have experienced S0F4
abends on two separate PDSE, which are used for similar
purposes.
We have a similar problem. The PTFs for OA14809 recently
closed. You should open a problem with IBM to verify that
your problem is addressed by this APAR.
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If it was a joke, it lost its humor in the translation.
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Since Skip Robinson and Brian Peterson both subscribe to IBM-MAIN, I'm
sure you will hear from them. It looked to me like zNextGen was off to a
good start.
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understand the problem
nor the strategic implications. Most if not all existing COBOL
programs by themselves are not in any need of 64 bit addressing.
So have you sent your comments to the link mentioned or not?
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year, and
is for 10 attendees during the 1 year period. This scenario is
impractical for smaller numbers, but perhaps something can be done.
Email me directly with your ideas and I will take it up with the SHARE
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You might want to revisit the site.
Gee, in the US information about the z8 is only available under
non-disclosure.
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years later nothing has changed. T this is one effect of OCO.
Don't feel guilty.
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the access creates contention and stops jobs
from running?
All of the access would be read-only, and AFAIK the dataset is
non-VSAM.
Sounds like an ideal environment Hiperbatch. It's still supported,
and this sounds like the exact scenario it was created to address.
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that this probably
won't do what you want for load modules. It works fine for source and
JCL.
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I don't think it's prudent for younger people to focus on I.T. as a
life
long career.
You may be right. Of course, it's also a self-fulfilling prophecy. If
more Americans reject computer science American corporations will have
no choice but to go overseas for talent.
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Hi All. I'm trying to save the compiled 'c' code to a loadlib and I'm
getting the following error in my jcl during the bind process: IEW2606S
4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES PROGRAM MANAGEMENT 3 FEATURES AND CANNOT BE
SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT.
Your library needs to be a PDSE.
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at the Cambridge Scientific Center.
Fascinating story.
http://pucc.princeton.edu/~melinda/25paper.pdf
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It is nothing less than grossly irresponsible to ship this type of
data in an unencrypted format.
According to your metric, probably 99.9% of companies worldwide are
grossly irresponsible. I'm not defending them, I'm just saying that in
2005 almost no one encrypts tapes.
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should be
hastened into an honorable grave. Requiescat in pace!
I print manuals from the PDF version. I search using the BookManager
version. The PDF search capability still isn't very good.
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provide
the actual code. You are correct in saying that it can't be specified
any more. It was certainly easier to do via the OPT. I have no clue why
the option was removed.
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it's the correct metric to
use). It does not affect EXCP counts as reported by SMF.
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Is there a public list available ot is this a secret?
No. There is no public list.
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The article doesn't identify which mainframe the bank converted from.
It's hard to imagine why any company would convert to Sun nowadays.
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know there's a way (I did it many years ago) to add a exec library to
system exec libraries when I start my TSO session
ALTLIB
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will modify my comment. Is this just noise or do you seriously expect
IBM to implement this?
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Probably had fresh lobster for lunch!
Ed, you must be psychic. I'm working from home today and steamed a
lobster abut 30 minutes ago.
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Merciful $DEITY, what a kludge. CANCEL should be an exceptional
condition.
I hope you're not implying IBM should invest resources to clean up APPC.
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Whether he is implying it or not, I am
Great. Out of everything you'd like to see in MVS, where does this rank?
1st? 2nd? 25th? 100th? I understand it's inconsistent, but it's been
that way since APPC was introduced. What problem is it really causing
you?
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into COMMON. In order to do this one needs a large
COMMON page dataset. ILR005E does not necessarily indicate a problem.
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Why are you asking about support beyond the 1.4 EOS date? By that
time a used z800 will be really, really inexpensive. Maybe a used
890 as well. Either machine will allow at least 1.7 to be installed.
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It's called the Customer Anchor Table and it's hung off the ECVT. Any
vendor that requests a slot (FW) can get one.
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based on the 1 Slot per ISV method without the
need to expand it via maintenance.
Why do you think IBM did anything other than that?
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What are the penalties and timeframes for ordering a new release and
not
putting it into production within a few months?
None. Oredr 1.7 and then order a PDO when you're ready to install.
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with
respect to unions. The service was good, but the cost was prohibitive.
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beyond WLM that may drive a test/production scenario.
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