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[1] Unlike RSCS when VM VTAM was firs introduced which caused massive
confusion with some quite experienced people at the time of the VM VTAM
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the Conqueror landed), another discovery from my recent travels in the south
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Having looked at what you can find here I would not expect this to be
everyone's preferred starting point. Nevertheless, it's useful to know it's
there.
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number by the *client* function is what matters.
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Incidentally, matters concerning z/OS Communications Server, SNA as well as
IP, tend to get more attention in the ibmtcp-l list:
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greatly from the lack of constraint on the number of job steps.
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I'm getting exactly the same response trying to use Lookat!
Excepting myself for reasons of modesty you are very probably in excellent
company and IBM is very likely the subject of unhappy soto voce expressions
today!
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that being the
nature of the beast.
Since you don't actually have a performance problem - and your utilization is
low - it ain't broke and it don't need fixing - and it's very probably quite
normal.
Perhaps someone who really knows what the RMF reports report on can be
clearer.
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anticipation!
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I used to know how to set up SFE and SA sequences so perhaps rereading the
manual will bring it all back!
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[1] SCS can also be found expanded to SNA Character Set
snag I
have found - other than the challenge of making it readable - is that
OPT=BLKSUP action when trying to build a set buffer address for location 0.
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[1] I checked. There does not appear to have been any update to the
APPC/MVS manuals but the manuals do feature on the z/OS 1.9 bookshelves.
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I imagine the OP must have the Communications Server SNA component (aka
VTAM) APPC Application Suite in mind. Sometimes the list habit of condensing
thoughts into one or two words can go too far!
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cuts, you're liable to discard unappreciated function.
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[1] I have been obliged to specify APPC/MVS, a component of z/OS, rather
than simply APPC which is primarily an architecture and it would be very odd
to continue to support other LU types while stopping support for LU type 6.2
(or equivalent
product which can coexist with VTAM).
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server. Why
should anyone care? In other words, any appeal that the TN3270E developers
make to not being in conformance with the RFC can be thrown out of court on
its ear!
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then - as it ceratinly would not today - that I had recently attended
the basic VTAM class which was so short of the usual topics to teach that
VTAM programmming was included. Rewriting the sample network solicitor was
an opportunity to put the theory into practice.
Chris Mason
be that the VTAM in that domain has got confused over the nature of the
name MYCICS caused by the attempt to redefine it as a generic resource.
Chris Mason
On Thu, 29 May 2008 05:43:29 -0500, Magen Margalit
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Hi List,
We are Z/OS 1.7 and CICS TS 2.3
We are trying to migrate
before the CDTERM is returned with the selected member name
for use in the final and - one hopes - successful CDINIT being sent to the
selected member.
Chris Mason
On Thu, 29 May 2008 15:12:02 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe
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...
I think the POLUIO status relates strictly
connections continue to use the 3270 format USS table. If no
SCS format USS table is specified, all connections use the 3270 format USS
table. In this case, a BIND/UNBIND is sent to the TN3270E client before/after
USS processing.
/quote
Chris Mason
[1] This is all laid out in Chapter 11
we find
Print--Then Act
and in the table of codes in APPENDIX1.3.2 ISO/ANSI we find
Action before Printing a Line
So now I'm happy - but I suspect you will not be!
Chris Mason
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:43:58 -0500, John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Is there a simple way to convert a DASD
Mason
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:44:27 -0500, Chris Mason
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I think your in trouble ...
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the value of the PGM operand and another
is the ability to change the procedure name - thereby frustrating some who
have searched their procedure libraries in vain for a member named RESOLVER!
This subtlety is described in the IP Configuration Guide under Managing the
resolver address space.
Chris
150!
From time to time I work with a customer who accesses an LDAP server from
some WebSphere applications so what you want to do is certainly done.
Chris Mason
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:16:29 +0100, Andy Robertson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have some LDAP servers running under Lotus Notes on AIX
). The way to refer
to the data set generically is to use the original name used by TCP/IP for VM,
the product from which CP/IP for MVS was derived which, in turn became the
Communications Server IP component.
Chris Mason
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:43:36 +0100, Jacky Bright
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parameter. I hope someone who knows for sure can confirm or correct this
guess.
Well, welcome to a path to becoming a VTAM specialist. There are fewer and
fewer these days.
Chris Mason
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:01:16 +0200, Michael Knigge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOFTWARE.DE wrote:
All,
I've modified my VTAM
many hectares of grain
had been harvested, proclaimed proudly how many kilometres of copper wire
were present in the machine. I believe he mentioned that the people
responsible were from the Urals. This was back in 1975.
Chris Mason
[1] The Ministry of Instrumentation Technology of something
! - to add a question mark to the subject.
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[1] Wikipedia URLs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shosse_Entuziastov
Actually, I should update this entry pointing out how the associated street
name relates to the station murals.
Chris Mason
Original post with title
it may have been a good
guess - or alternatively, this Holmes just hadn't bothered to explain to the
attendant Watsons that he actually had scrutinised the evidence and found
the third bullet!
RACF, screen sizes - now those were guesses - Dr. Bell would not have
approved!
Chris Mason
On Mon
but there were none of these in
the MVS System Codes. It turns out that code 999 as reported in the MVS
System Codes manual refers to the IPCS component - nothing whatsoever to
do with any old product like ISPF. Ho-hum!
Chris Mason
[1] The late actor Ian Richardson played the part of Dr Bell
an operator in the glass-house.
Did I miss something?
Chris Mason
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:19:05 -0500, Ken Porowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone have experience using an OSA-ICC attached Console over a long
distance, say 8000 miles or so?
I'm a little worried about the effects of latency
Ram
This looks like the sort of question that should be posed in the IMS-L list.
You can join the list by using the Join or Leave IMS-L prompt on the
following page:
http://imslistserv.bmc.com/scripts/wa-BMC.exe?A0=IMS-L
Chris Mason
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:49:23 -0500, Ram Balaji [EMAIL
... Germany and Japan had navies. What do you think they would have done
with them had the US navy not taken them on, once they had conquered
England?
They'd be fully occupied trying to deal with Scotland, Wales and Northern
Ireland of course!
Chris Mason
or 3172 - all devices from the early 1970s - while you
need something like a 3278 to attach to a 3174 - devices from the later 1970s.
Chris Mason
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:55:48 -0500, Jerry Fuchs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to gen two 2074 controllers using the example in the planning
. As Pat describes using
CNMSMSGT, you, in effect, set up another SNMP agent independent of
the standard SNMP agent. Were CNMSMSGT to use the API to the SNMP
agent, then it would be in line with SNMP architecture.
However CNMSMSGT may precisely perform the job you want done.
Chris Mason
On Thu
you said about
it does tend to confirm what I suspected was the origin of the function.
Chris Mason
[1] The most recent BBC Top Gear[2] program involved a car race from
Basle to Blackpool - in order to officiate at the switching on of the famous
lights - obviously![3] The special requirement
notifications to the SNMP agent just doesn't fit!!!
So, like you, I'm going to have to read up on these super-traps in order to
see what they're all about.
Chris Mason
[1] Also in the days when I taught SNMP on TCP/IP for MVS, I assisted with
classes on NetView for AIX where my colleagues taught SNMP
RFC to sort out. That way we can work out what all
this sending to an SNMP agent is about!
Chris Mason
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:29:56 -0500, Don Poitras [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you
wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:23:10 -0500, Don Poitras
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
it to the local SNMP agent means the generator
does not need to know where the trap is going.
That's where the merit is.
Incidentally, I'm encouraged to note that, while this discussion has dragged on
as so many threads do, we are still precisely addressing the OP's original
concern!
Chris Mason
routines or
adapt a 4K card-based operating system (the 1231 Support Package - or
some such name) to handle the special requirements of the 1287 optical
character (hand-written numbers) reader. I chose the latter, eventually it
worked and a salesman's rear-end was saved!
Chris Mason
[1] Actually
technical reason.
So just try out your current emulator and see what happens - and let us all
know - you can't break anything! If the redbook authors had had an ounce of
a spirit of adventure about them - all 8 of them! - they would have covered
this entirely practical issue.
Chris Mason
On Wed, 7
can perhaps
help you further - and perhaps worry a bit more about userids!
Chris Mason
[1] In days gone by, there was also binary synchronous communication (BSC)
as an NJE transport. Unless you happen to have typically a 2701 control unit -
of blessed memory - connected to each system
sending
in a Reader's Comment Form saying that the manual - whichever version of
the HMC Guide is appropriate for your system - doesn't describe what the
APAR suggests it should.
Chris Mason
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:36:39 -0600, J Ellis
jerry.el...@libertymutual.com wrote:
Here's is what apar
is generated for the
processor.
/quote
So I hope that answers the question ... exactly how would you go about
doing this ?
Chris Mason
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:35:08 -0600, Joe D'Alessandro
joseph.d'alessan...@fiserv.com wrote:
The Support Element manual for the z9 System describes the External
enough to make it the default when a model APPL
statement is used and AUTH=TSO is specified.
Chris Mason
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:37:18 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
F TSO,USERMAX=500 (for example)
It will change the amount. But you need to change the VTAM number of
entries
table. It can't!
Chris Mason
[1] There are others historically but very, very unlikely today.
[2] Post again if you need help with this. Essentially, it's in the definition
of
the CDRM statements.
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:33:35 +0200, Itschak Mugzach
imugz...@gmail.com wrote:
Please have
given
that CICSB has a CDRSC definition within VTAMA.
Chris Mason
[1] Not a lot of people remember that!
[2] quote
Specifies whether the host CDRM is authorized to dynamically define CDRSC
representations of cross-domain or cross-network resources when a session
request is received from
use of the default commands. It's a bit like ISTINCLM and the
MODETAB operand.
Chris Mason
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:53:37 -0500, Tony Harminc
tz...@attglobal.net wrote:
2009/1/13 Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com
Please have a look at this scenario:
CICS of organization A is connected (LU6.2
LOGON APPLID(netname.applid).
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Am I getting closer?
Chris Mason
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:51:31 +0200, Itschak Mugzach
imugz...@gmail.com wrote:
Walt, I might used worng wording, but when I said LOGON to CICS (or any
other VTAM application on partner sight, I ment it. The only limit I
have when
need to worry
about USS commands.
Chris Mason
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:12:35 +0200, Itschak Mugzach
imugz...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Chris,
You answers are just exectly what I was looking for. I RTFMed a little as
well and have my ideas. For example, I looked into the USS TAB code and
found that a I
are doing, whatever
level of security you desire can be imposed genuinely - that is, there need be
no falseness at all!
Chris Mason
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:06:38 -0600, Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov
wrote:
CICS of organization A is connected (LU6.2 Connection) to CICS of
organization B
the message explanation Jim McAlpine presented for you without
having to take all the trouble to compose a couple of posts for us all to
puzzle
over!
Chris Mason
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:43:31 -0800, esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
Good Day
I am
, probably at the OS/390 V2R10 level of Communications Server.
Chris Mason
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:07:37 -0600, Rabbe, Luke
luke.ra...@countryfinancial.com wrote:
I guess I don't know the complete effect of setting this value. If
there's a chance that setting it could disrupt our network I wanted
. Isn't this the equivalent of specifying a bogus port number with
the TELNET command? I believe I may have got closer to your requirement
than I expected when I started this post!
Chris Mason
[1] Using the terminology of the Open Systems Interconnection (OSI) model
with which, as, I presume
you to a very common style of page for accessing manuals such
as redbooks.
Chris Mason
[1] Beware the rather off-putting effect that the first page is blank except
for
the number 1 in the bottom right!
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:50:09 -0600, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com
wrote:
Hi, All,
Anybody
?
... no longer part of the product doc package)
To which product doc package would you be referring?
Chris Mason
[1] Which, when it was called Systems Network Architecture Reference
Summary, I keep in my desk as a memento - and occasional reference!
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:07:31 -0500, Leo Smith ljsm
the
basics in the SNA Programming manual and the VTAM APPC API in the SNA
Programmer's LU 6.2 Guide and SNA Programmer's LU 6.2 Reference manuals.
I couldn't find how VTAM builds the presumably RACROUTE call but you may
have better luck! I'd be inclined to take it on trust!
Chris Mason
On Thu, 29 Jan
to be
associated with #INTER and port 20, the actual data transfer port, with
#BATCH.
Chris Mason
[1] Unless you've set up the server deliberately to use another port number
perhaps for testing or because it's to be used for secure traffic - although my
preferred technique is to set up different VIPAs
in another
part of the country, the part where my co-workers had been before the war.
Chris Mason
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:30:18 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe
patrick.oke...@wamu.net wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:46:15 -0600, Chris Mason
chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote:
...
To which product doc package would
editing where needed, you'd be in trouble!
Chris Mason
P.S. It was the need to explain the sign half-bytes fully that took my
attention in Don's post, caused me to subscribe to ASSEMBLER-LIST and
provide my observation on the topic there where it belongs - although I'm
amazed that the OP
!
Chris Mason
P.S. I recommend you follow Rex's advice - as might Rex himself if this is a
topic he hasn't visited recently - and see what a wealth of information can be
presented in the USS *messages*, especially message 10 - and message 5 if
you are not using TN3270E. Post again if you
Lizette
quote
If REP is not coded, it takes the value of PARM. (That is, the user-entered
parameter is used as entered.)
/quote
Chris Mason
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 15:22:45 -0500, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
Howard,
I do not know if this will help, but in our USS tab we code
Need I say more?
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:48:11 -0500, Howard Rifkind
rifki...@emigrant.com wrote:
I have the following entry in my USSTAB:
P39TMMVS USSCMD CMD=P39TMMVS,REP=LOGON,FORMAT=BAL
USSPARM PARM=APPLID,DEFAULT=TMONMVS
When I key in P39TMMVS we are really getting TMONMVS
in terms of how
VTAM behaving as an SSCP supported the LOGOFF command.
The manual which actually offers help in knowing what's going on with
respect to USS flows is the z/OS CS SNA Diagnosis Vol 1, specifically Figure
119.
Chris Mason
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:08:06 -0600, Chase, John jch
Googled with the full string IGGN504A SPECIFY UNIT FOR
CATALOG.Z19.MASTER ON Z9SYS1, it would have been the *only* hit!
Chris Mason
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:31:48 -0600, Fred Hoffman fhoff...@tad.org
wrote:
Hi Folks,
Can anyone tell me what this is all about? This is a new system and I don't
recall
massive lists of APPL statements
with identical operands with a model statement
Chris Mason
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:19:46 -0600, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com
wrote:
Doing cleanup and getting rid of Majnode definitions..
Sense I am a NetworkNode / APPN defined in all LPAR's and using EE across
all
.
[10] If you have a small network, you may want to operate without the APPN
data bases in which case you would specify INITDB=NONE.
-
Chris Mason
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:19:46 -0600, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com
wrote:
Doing cleanup and getting rid of Majnode definitions..
Sense I am
options *other* than SORDER=ADJSSCP.
SORDER=SUBAREA inserts the ISTAPNCP entry at the end of the adjacent
SSCP list initially. SORDER=APPN and SORDER=APPNFRST inserts it near or at,
respectively, the beginning of the adjacent SSCP list initially - the
distinction
is a bit subtle!
Chris Mason
with their own efforts.
Chris Mason
P.S. Assembler Question is a rather weak thread title[1] and, as may have
been predicted, it has allowed enormous drift. The main branch appears to
have become yet another memory lane stroll with packed picnic hampers
remembering the glorious summers
documentation to hand.
Chris Mason
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:16:18 -0600, Stuart Willis
stuart.wil...@willdata.com wrote:
Hi All
We have a new Z9 Processor I have 2 ZOS systems working under VM using
OSA's no problem. I'm now setting up a SYSPLEX under VM and I'm getting a
error Code I can find
with HPR=RTP
although this is the default - but the value can be EN as well as NN.
Chris Mason
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:59:39 -0600, Bruce Richardson
bruce.richard...@arcelormittal.com wrote:
I think the key is the VTAM construct IUTSAMEH - this is used in Enterprise
Extender (EE). You need
will be able
to assist. It's handy that your VTAMs are enabled for APPN.
Chris Mason
[1] I checked on what the Google digest had to say about Arju and followed
up on two recent posts. One definitely got into the archives and furthermore
stimulated some discussion. This was How to sort ip
IUTSAMEH MPCPTP AUTORESTART
LINK linkname MPCPTP IUTSAMEH
where linkname is EZASAMEMVS if defined because DYNAMICXCF was specified.
Go and have a look in your CS IP PROFILE data set for DYNAMICXCF.
Chris Mason
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:11:04 -0600, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com
wrote
of statements and you have no entry in
the HOME list with the link name EZASAMEMVS, then you do qualify for this
test.
I'm sorry to be so specific but I'm trying to cover all the bases.
Thanks very much.
Chris Mason
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:13:00 -0600, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com
wrote:
Go
statement do not occupy the same name space. Thus the same
name can be used for both the DEVICE and LINK statements in a pair.
Thanks again for your help.
Chris Mason
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:55:24 -0600, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com
wrote:
Thanks for staying with this.
If by CS IP
to which Ed was referring!
Chris Mason
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:22:29 -, Stuart Willis
stuart.wil...@willdata.com wrote:
Hi
I have proved (I think) that the OSA dose have a Home address.
Output from the TCPIP proc with a Home address all I get is the EZZ4310I
sorting IP addresses was very
successful so it's worth the effort to be clear.
Chris Mason
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performing routing - as
are OSA features.
Chris Mason
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:25:36 -0600, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org
wrote:
Hello all, in a CISCO router the interfaces can have multiple IP
addresses by telling the IOS that it is a secondary. I.E.
IP 172.20.198.1 255.255.255.0
IP 172.21.1.1
Herman
Alternatively the product may now be offered by a British company in which
case it could have been rebranded Favo*u*r.
Chris Mason
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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007
problem.
Chris Mason
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Subject: IDC3332I ** INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE in IDCAMS REPRO MERGECAT
I'm running a REPRO MERGECAT at z/OS V1R8
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if you simply follow what the manual tells you to do.
Chris Mason
[1] Probably - 3270 strictly covers a range of displays *and* printers.
327X may have been a more accurate code since the displays tended to have
327 as the first three numbers in their names while printers had 328
the years and had the wit to
retain - fall foul of the IBM-MAIN system - in transit that is!
It's possible this point is covered in the FAQ to which you were referred
but, taking a quick, glance I didn't spot it.
Chris Mason
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From: Kelman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED
]. All this will help to reduce the volume of text in
the archives, such economy being ingrained in someone who was brought up in
the meagre post-war years and who started a computer career with the low
model number S/360s.
Chris Mason
[1] Of course this tends not to apply so much when what
used
to achieve their posting, they managed to bypass the rule. Perhaps - for the
sake of interest - one of the folk who actually understands what goes on can
explain what this is actually all about.
Chris Mason
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Newsgroups
incidentally: OSA issues normally get aired on IBMTCP-L although it
probably doesn't matter since the population of those who attend to IBMTCP-L
seem to be a subset of those who attend to IBM-MAIN.
Chris Mason
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This Technote shows the supported modes for the OSA
than fending off the brickbats.
Incidentally I guess mentioning the money angle is also important in getting
the besuited ones attention even if actually getting the unmentionables
involved would be most improbable.
Chris Mason
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From: Thompson, Steve [EMAIL
, and as a guest under VM. AIX/ESA, while technically
advanced, had little commercial success, partially because UNIX
functionality was added as an option to the existing mainframe operating
system, MVS, which became MVS/ESA OpenEdition in 1993.
/quote
Chris Mason
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PQ37421 - so long
ago. One more time won't hurt!
Chris Mason
- Original Message -
From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: OMVS
Mark Zelden wrote:
So if I opened a dos window
John
If you want a regular telnet, like a normal UNIX would use, then you
need to pick a port that is not already in use.
Not true, can I will accept but not need. I guess I'm being picky!
See my post to Edward regarding another - and to my mind a *far* superior -
way.
Chris Mason
Edward
This same port sharing technique ought to work for any server, including
telnet.
If the APAR PQ37421 example is to be believed, you can remove ought to and
replace with does.
Chris Mason
- Original Message -
From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups
in APAR PQ37421:
23 TCP INTCLIEN BIND 9.67.113.109 ;3270 TELNET
23 TCP OMVS BIND 9.67.116.55;UNIX TELNET
Chris Mason
- Original Message -
From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:45
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