No sysplex? How does a vendor test rolling installation/maintenance across a
sysplex for 24x7 uptime?
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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:27 AM
To:
I'm not an EMR expert either, but to the hospital the EMR application is
actually far more than simply medical record keeping. There are a wide
range of departments or clinics (e.g., pediatrics, pharmacy, oncology,
emergency room, and on and on). The doctors and nurses in each department
have
The company for which I currently work decided to release all the CA
Endevor knowledgeable people. Our product control people know how to
do moves. The programmers know how to create packages for
moving. But nobody knows how to add or update any of the
infrastructure things such as processors My
David,
That would e interesting . I worked on a PC500 solution, where it was OS/2
based running MVS at that time. It was at the end of a T1, with a 3800 channel
attached to it. It was a big print server and worked very well.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me
zPDT may work well for develpoment, but it's the classic catch-22 situation
since IBM doesn't provide a viable entry level platform for actually *running*
such an application. I'm sure zPDT comes mired in rules about what kind of
work can and cannot be run on it.
While wearing my IBM i hat
John,
On support.ca.com is the MYCA menu entry. There you can join the CA Endevor
form - much like IBM Main, where you can post questions.
Maybe someone there will know about training.
Lizette
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Thanks. I'll do that after staff infection.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
John,
On support.ca.com is the MYCA menu entry. There you can join the CA Endevor
form - much like IBM Main, where you can post questions.
Maybe someone there will
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:00:47 -0600, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks. I'll do that after staff infection.
Is that a new version of staph infection for health care employees? :-)
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On 1/29/2013 10:27 PM, David Crayford wrote:
It offers vendors who have no need for a sysplex a cheap
development/testing/demo environment that they can run on a laptop, desktop or
rack server.
As of December 2010, zPDT supports virtual coupling facilities for z/OS guests
running under z/VM.
It does require the correct version of z/VM (more current is better), and
current support code for the 1090,
Downloadable from the zPDT site. There is a ADCD version that has the
volumes are setup for z/VM and z/OS
Sysplex. Works pretty well if you have enough horsepower, RAM, and
processors on
To list;
I have been attempting to stop SMS (if that is possible) as we are running
into allocation issues when logging on to TSO. I have tried various
combinations of parameters on the VARY SMS command but continue to get SYNTAX
errors. Has anyone had to stop SMS and if so, could you share
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:19:49 -0500, Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com wrote:
A couple instances of n MESSAGE BUFFERS MISSING (total of 6), but
otherwise lists just about all the active ASIDs being processed.
This, along with the other symptoms, suggests that IPCS
is not seeing the data from all
Well, the thought of doing so is terrifying to me. But I guess you could:
FORCE SMS,ARM
...
FORCE SMS
I'm just no sure what this will do. IMO, it would be better to create
a new SCDS dataset as a minimal SMS environment (no ACS routines),
and make it the active SCDS with:
SETSMS
I don't believe that you can stop the SMS address space. What are the
allocation issues? That might be a better avenue to pursue.
Doug
Doug Fuerst
Principal Consultant
BK Associates
718.921.2620
917.572.7364
d...@bkassociates.net
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You might want to mount a non-sms volume as 'public' and then try TSO logon
again.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: John McKown [john.archie.mck...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:53 PM
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Dana,
Not sure what your referring to here. We can run DB2 and CICS ..
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote:
zPDT
From what I remember, zPDT can only be used for software development
activities. Yes, you can run CICS and DB2 on it. But not production
work. I.e. you can't have your company's general end-users logging
onto CICS and doing production work which runs the business. I guess
they could do QA testing.
On 1/30/2013 10:30 AM, John McKown wrote:
From what I remember, zPDT can only be used for software development
activities. Yes, you can run CICS and DB2 on it. But not production
work. I.e. you can't have your company's general end-users logging
onto CICS and doing production work which runs the
On 30 January 2013 13:34, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
On 1/30/2013 10:30 AM, John McKown wrote:
From what I remember, zPDT can only be used for software development
activities. Yes, you can run CICS and DB2 on it. But not production
work. I.e. you can't have your company's
On 01/30/2013 12:34 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
On 1/30/2013 10:30 AM, John McKown wrote:
From what I remember, zPDT can only be used for software development
activities. Yes, you can run CICS and DB2 on it. But not production
work. I.e. you can't have your company's general end-users logging
onto
You, like the name for the Sun, are SOL.
We actually had something like this happen to us. A vendor supplied a
CICS system level product to us. It worked fine in Test and Model
Office. When I installed it in Production, it consistently brought the
region down. This was due to the fact that our
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:39:02 -0600, Michael Hall mhha...@attglobal.net wrote:
Hello,
I have a question regarding TPI (Test Pending Interrupt).
I understand that CPENABLE compares the TPI value to thresholds in CPENABLE. I
can’t find which value is used in this comparison. I am assuming a value
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:48:26 -0600, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:
But this looks like data from a system with CPENABLE(0,0) to me.
I retract that statement. :-)
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As well as WLMTOOL there's a hidden gem in RMF II to display these values. I
forget exactly where and can't look it up right now.
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From: Mark Zelden [m...@mzelden.com]
Sent: 01/30/2013 01:50 PM CST
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Subject: Re: TPI and CPENABLE
On Wed,
Tony,
Whoever said IBM was price competitive, they are re only game in town , as far
as big iron goes
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Tony Harminc
For now, IBM has legacy customers over a barrel and can demand a high price
for the mainframe hardware and operating systems. But for developers of new
apps, they can choose a different platform, esp. if they believe that their
customers will purchase whatever platform it takes to run them. I
Don,
What's really disconcerting is that the z/OS knowledge base is disappearing.
JVM isn't the end all in languages. I write a lot of an gauges, including C.
Yes, I am a big Linux fan
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
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This is interesting by itself. Integrating with other systems
fascinating...
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Big Iron...bad label...
This is why Zseries...z/OS--z/VM--Linux...as for expensive? ...TCO...vs
many many many of other platform(s) Lic fees so on..maint.
as like anything else .. depending on your needs depends on the size of
the Hardware you may need...as for the size.. you can always grow
_Apple Q1 2013 hardware sales: By the numbers | ZDNet_
(http://www.zdnet.com/apple-q1-2013-hardware-sales-by-the-numbers-710258/)
So grasshopper, how's you mobile app on Z?
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On 1/30/2013 1:32 PM, Dana Mitchell wrote:
Thanks Tony! thats exactly my point. Since IBM sells z, Power and intel
boxen, they don't have to be competetive with themselves, that could be seen
as canabilazation. IBM i is in a similar position in IBM as z/OS customers.
Most that could
I agree. Too few z/OS courses in the universities over the past 20+ years.
Like languages, each platform has it advantages and disadvantages. People
should use the most appropriate language, platform, etc. for each situation
in order to provide the best solution.
Don
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:51:49 -0500, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote:
_Apple Q1 2013 hardware sales: By the numbers | ZDNet_
(http://www.zdnet.com/apple-q1-2013-hardware-sales-by-the-numbers-710258/)
So grasshopper, how's you mobile app on Z?
This grasshopper is tempted to wonder why
And make the change permanent with a SYS*.PARMLIB(VATLST*) change.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote:
You might want to mount a non-sms volume as 'public' and then try TSO logon
again.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
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On 30 January 2013 18:04, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:51:49 -0500, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote:
_Apple Q1 2013 hardware sales: By the numbers | ZDNet_
(http://www.zdnet.com/apple-q1-2013-hardware-sales-by-the-numbers-710258/)
So grasshopper,
All,
The point is expensive, big companies with an IT staff, MVS or Z/OS unusually
means big head count. Coming out of number 5 company who does tobacco, the head
count and budget were seriously big and weren't even MVS, we were VM. Nowdays,
I don't know what salaries are like.
Also you must
Smallest M/F with z/OS, z/VM, etc. seems to be too big for a lot of small or
startup developers.
These developers may have great ideas for slick new apps which could be
developed on the M/F. The catch is they can't afford the minimum
configuration.
What's their solution? Probably to develop on
Hi John,
One option is to join an Endevor USERS Group. Also, I would happy to
help off line.
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Could a small shop with a z114 (2818-A01) expect to get roughly the same
percent savings as large shop with 3 or 4 zEC12s (2827-7A1)?
The Share presentation seemed to based on large customers.
Don
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My Father told me to always select the right tool for the job. It is so
common sense, but he told me anyway.
I'd be embarrassed to say how many times in my life I failed to do that.
However, when I look around, there is no shortage of people trying to use
the wrong tool.
But you are quite
That would be RMF II Option 'L' (Library Lists)
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I guess that I don't like .NET for two main reasons. The first is that, as
an FSF member, I really don't care for proprietary software 5hat the vendor
owns and can change at their whim. A personal thing. Another was some bad
experiences at work with some early versions which were used to interface
My favourite tool quote:
Information Technology consists mainly finding the correct wrench to drive in
the appropriate screw.
If you don't get it I won't explain it.
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Explanation may be necessary. All these years I've used the correct
wrench to pound in the appropriate screw. ;-)
On 1/30/2013 8:28 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
My favourite tool quote:
Information Technology consists mainly finding the correct wrench to drive in
the appropriate screw.
We have a started task running. It has various SPOOL files open, to which it's
writing - SYSPRINT et al., including SYS1. We have a LOG SPIN command,
which can close SYS1; subsequent output to that DD then goes to SYS2.
Should we then be able to purge the SYS1? It's closed -
AFAIK Unless the SYSOUT has FREE=CLOSE,SPIN=UNALLOCATE it will remain with
the task until the task is cycled.
Lizette
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Don,
Exactly...factoring in skillsets and money...
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote:
My Father told me to always select
Don,
Hear this many a time from my father also, while I was under a car working
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll
understand. - Chinese Proverb
On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote:
My
I don't think that the writer of the document (Dr. Rubin) compares apples
to apples. IBM mainframe does not operate the network (DNS, DHCP, AD, email
servers and many other base services). there are some tens of servers that
has no comparable service in the mainframe world. The mainframe, from
IBM mainframe does not operate the network (DNS, DHCP, AD, email servers and
many other base services)
Oh, yes it does!
WebSphere, Lotus Notes, DNS were all there in 1999!
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Twitter: @TedMacNEIL
So why don't you save the money and run your corporate network from the
mainframe ;-)
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
IBM mainframe does not operate the network (DNS, DHCP, AD, email servers
and many other base services)
Oh, yes it does!
WebSphere,
A couple points (and not new ones, but I guess they need repeating):
1. You don't need a zPDT, RUTz, or zEnterprise machine to develop and test
for z/OS and its middleware. In fact, in many cases you don't need to pay
even one dollar. IBM's PartnerWorld Validation Program for z/OS is one
notable
IIRC the G6(XBOX) and Z6 Share much of same geometry.
From Webb's rollout paper in 2007:
Siblings, not identical twins
Share lots of DNA
–IBM 65nm SOI technology
–Design building blocks:
•latches, SRAMs, regfiles, dataflow elements
–Large portions of FXU, BFU, DFU, MC, GX
–EI3 interface
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