Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 07/12/2015 09:40:25 PM: From: Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 07/12/2015 11:08 PM Subject: Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:42:19 +0300, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:54:02 -0400 Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com wrote: :I have question then :I inherited some code..it's called passed a value for a storage obtain... :Before the obtain, they go into

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Scott Ford
No sir, its subpool=231, linkage=system, thus supervisor state required Scott On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:42:19 +0300, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:54:02 -0400 Scott Ford

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Shane Ginnane
Two threads in a couple of weeks re the inability of people to learn MVS principles properly these days. Terrible indictment of the OCO decision years ago that public lists like this are now the proxy mentor that some of us were fortunate enough to have had when we needed one. Enough from me -

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 17:34:41 -0400, Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com wrote: No sir, its subpool=231, linkage=system, thus supervisor state required From Authorized Assembler Services description of the STORAGE macro:

Re: PAGE DS SLOTS TYPE75

2015-07-12 Thread R Hey
Thanks Barry. for the archive: print PAGETYPE PAGEDSN to see that figures are for LOCAL/PLPA/COMMON the repeated lower #s were for PLPA COMMON. Cheers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: XCF HELP!

2015-07-12 Thread Ed Finnell
It may really be 'broke'. I'd open a sevcrit to get the CE's dispatched. In a message dated 7/12/2015 1:29:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pinnc...@rochester.rr.com writes: If that doesn't work, try CONFIG CHP OFF and ON (assuming that there are no other devices you need on that CHPID).

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Jim
Rob. LOL !! ... My apologies and yes, IMS does indeed (and DB2) use key7. I don't have the specific posts at hand but, I'll try to find one or two that speaks of key2 usage by IMS and, if / when I do, I'll send it over.. Key9 is also used by CICS in certain circumstances (as an example,

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Steve Thompson
If it still exists, IBM Prolog for 370, the MVS version (as opposed to the original which ran under VM/CMS) uses keys beyond 9. In fact, we were in the middle of Beta tests when I had to go back and change code from using KEY9 because of what CICS had just done (circa 1991). Apparently

XCF HELP!

2015-07-12 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
For the first time ever, when shutting down an LPAR in a sysplex, I forgot to issue the V XCF,lparname,OFF! Now, I can't get that LPAR to join the sysplex. Luckily, the important LPAR is up. The second LPAR is supposed to be in a sysplex and I am the only one using it. It currently has z/os

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Rob Scott
In one word - carefully. Treat every instruction that you execute in key0 as being a candidate to cause the next unscheduled IPL. I would advise to straddle the code that *actually* requires key0 with a save current key, go to key0 and then a restore saved key sequence - I typically put this

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Charles Mills
As little as possible. g Don't leave yourself in key 0 because you're going to need it again in 20 instructions. Get in and get out. Five years from now some other programmer may introduce a branch out in the middle of your 20 instructions, with potentially unhappy results. Comment the code

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Scott Ford
Binyamin, I thought that might be the case. Todah habah Regards, Scott On Sunday, July 12, 2015, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:54:02 -0400 Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: :I have question then :I inherited some code..it's

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:29:01 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: And hasn't support for DAT OFF (V=R) been dropped? Only the DAT OFF nucleus actually runs DAT OFF now? V=R doesn't mean DAT off. Just that virtual addresses map to the same real addresses. I've never seen anything that ran V=R, but

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Scott Ford
I have question then I inherited some code..it's called passed a value for a storage obtain... Before the obtain, they go into mode=sup, storage obtain,length(value),sp=231,loc=any, then back into mode=prog. Is this the old way of setting key zero or a piece of storage ? Scott On Sunday,

Re: XCF HELP!

2015-07-12 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
Doesn't help to system reset, then respond DOWN... I still crash when trying to activate. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Bldg 6, Room B-110 Charleston, WV 25305 (304)957-8292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From:

Re: XCF HELP!

2015-07-12 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
IXC466I INBOUND SIGNAL CONNECTIVITY ESTABLISHED WITH SYSTEM IPO2 245 VIA DEVICE 0342 WHICH IS CONNECTED TO DEVICE 0412 IXC466I OUTBOUND SIGNAL CONNECTIVITY ESTABLISHED WITH SYSTEM IPO2 246 VIA DEVICE 0343 WHICH IS CONNECTED TO DEVICE 0413

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Scott Ford
With all the discussion, what's the safest way to use key=0 , if it is required ? Scott On Sunday, July 12, 2015, Tom Marchant 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:29:01 -0400, Steve Thompson wrote: And hasn't support for DAT OFF (V=R) been dropped?

Re: XCF HELP!

2015-07-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
A question or two. Did you wait long enough when the IXC409D was produced? The system continues and will process the response when entered. Cross-system coupling facility (XCF) tries to restart the signaling path. If XCF restores connectivity, the message will be deleted before it is answered. If

Re: XCF HELP!

2015-07-12 Thread Thomas Conley
On 7/12/2015 12:51 PM, Crabtree, Anne D wrote: IXC466I INBOUND SIGNAL CONNECTIVITY ESTABLISHED WITH SYSTEM IPO2 245 VIA DEVICE 0342 WHICH IS CONNECTED TO DEVICE 0412 IXC466I OUTBOUND SIGNAL CONNECTIVITY ESTABLISHED WITH SYSTEM IPO2 246 VIA DEVICE 0343 WHICH IS CONNECTED TO

Re: HMIGRATE vs. ENQ

2015-07-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 11 Jul 2015 21:26:56 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: My suggestion was to the question of how to insure the dataset was still ENQ'ed until job end not how to do an early DEQ while the job was still running. Your suggestion does not address the problem with I opened the thread; it

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 01:26:44 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote: Two threads in a couple of weeks re the inability of people to learn MVS principles properly these days. Terrible indictment of the OCO decision years ago that public lists like this are now the proxy mentor that some of us were fortunate

Re: XCF HELP!

2015-07-12 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
Tried that. Still get message. Will try again. Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Bldg 6, Room B-110 Charleston, WV 25305 (304)957-8292 (304)558-1441 fax -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: XCF HELP!

2015-07-12 Thread Bill Bishop (TEMA TPC)
Quickref says that you can reply SYSNAME=sysname,DOWN AFTER you have put the down'ed LPAR through a system reset. Thanks Bill Bishop Specialist Mainframe Support Group Server Development Support Toyota Motor Engineering Manufacturing North America, Inc. bill.bis...@tema.toyota.com (502)

Re: SYSTEM KEY Programming Was: IVSK and SPKA

2015-07-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:54:02 -0400 Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com wrote: :I have question then :I inherited some code..it's called passed a value for a storage obtain... :Before the obtain, they go into mode=sup, storage :obtain,length(value),sp=231,loc=any, then back into mode=prog. Is this

Re: XCF HELP!

2015-07-12 Thread Jim
Ma'am, I believe that XCF / GRS are having problems with your CDS's and or, perhaps even alternate CDS's. I suggest checking XCF and GRS on all systems while this is in progress, with commands such as D XCF,S,ALL and D GRS to find their status. Please check for INACTIVE and or QUIESCE'd paths