Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Roberts, John J
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2015-10-22 Thread Jorge Garcia
Hello, I know that it's not a topic a about IBM-Main list, but in our shop the collegues want to subsribe to this RACF-L and we don't receive any email with the confirmation code. We use this link: https://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa Also we send a email to lists...@listserv.uga.edu with the

Re: Subscribe to RACF-L

2015-10-22 Thread Ed Finnell
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Re: Subscribe to RACF-L

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Re: Fwd: Bloomberg: IBM's Third-Quarter Revenue Misses Estimates on Currency Impact

2015-10-22 Thread Cannaerts, Jan
>I said in another place that seeing as they have the brighest heads on the >planet, they should go back to thinking (what they used to be good at) and to >hell with the shareholders. That's the reason why Bell Labs was so productive. Then again AT wasn't financially dependent on the work that

Re: COBOL V5.x and CSP descendants was Re: New and improved IBM migration recommendations for COBOL V5

2015-10-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
John McKown wrote: >But the problem could well be the fact that getting the >new COBOL is an immediate, definite, increase in the budget >numbers And how would *that* happen? If that happens, I don't think it's due to IBM. If you're thinking of per MSU charge variations between versions,

Re: Bookmanager BUILD and z/OS V2.2

2015-10-22 Thread John Eells
Juergen Kehr wrote: As you probably know Bookmanager BUILD isn't supported and delivered with z/OS V2.2 anymore. We've had the idea to transfer the "old" Bookmanager BUILD FMIDs via BUILDMCS into a seperate CSI in the V2.2 environment. Now our question is: Will this work? Of course it's not

Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Gould wrote: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/banks-severance-deal-indebts-laid-off-it-workers-to-be-on-call-for-2-years-of-tech-support-without-pay/ WTF! G! Those crappies are too cheap to support their employees! That bank wants to have its bread buttered on both sides. If you drop me,

Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Tony Thigpen
I wonder how much $$ the severance package provides. That could be considered a 'Retainer' for 2 years. So, they are not providing the support 'without pay'. And, if an employee decides to quit talking to the bank after 10 or 20 hours, what can the bank do? Any judge would consider that the

Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Steve Beaver
The severance package would have to be HUGE. $15K for every year of service plus the Bank would have to Fund my 401(k) to the MAX for those 2 years at no cost to me. Plus an immediate increase of salary of 100% And I would be on VACATION 2 weeks a month. If an employee decides to quit

Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Wow - a bank lets staff go - and then expects on-call answers? And the bank expects "truthful" answers? And even if the "answers" are provided in good faith, but in the end turn out not the best advice, what happens then? Personally - if I let someone go - I would want to be done with them ;

Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/banks-severance-deal-indebts-laid- off-it-workers-to-be-on-call-for-2-years-of-tech-support-without-pay/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread John McKown
I certainly dislike what the bank did. I am ignorant: is a severance package legally required? Hum, that probably varies. If the employment contract does not require that a severance be paid, then the company can require anything (legal) in order to qualify for it. IIRC, at one time our company

Re: C lang. embedded HLASM latest z/OS 2.1

2015-10-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 October 2015 at 11:17, Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > And to your desire to replace the C prologue and epilogue -- Check out > Metal C. It allows you to do precisely that. You lose almost all I/O > facilities though, and you are thus forced / allowed to use

Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Martin Packer
I assume US law requires no severance package at all. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog:

Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 12:14:15 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: >> >> http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/banks-severance-deal-indebts-laid- >> off-it-workers-to-be-on-call-for-2-years-of-tech-support-without-pay/ >> Y'know, sometimes you have really bad broken URLs. Repaired (I think):

Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Steve Beaver
I am ignorant: is a severance package legally required? Depends and it is NEGOCIABLE Otherwise its Pay-to-Stay -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Hoelscher Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:03 AM To:

Re: Subscribe to RACF-L

2015-10-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 09:37:03 -0500, Jorge Garcia wrote: >Thank Elardus. We know this link is ready and working but when you add you >name and email al push subscribe appears in >the top: "A confirmation request is being sent under separate cover. " but no >mail is

Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread Jousma, David
"Gee, I don't recall how that worked". _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message-

Re: ALESERV macro

2015-10-22 Thread Peter Relson
If on every invocation of the exit routine you need to -- ALESERV ADD using the STOKEN you can save/extract -- ALESERV DELETE This will be quite cycle-intensive. You also have to be aware that you might not be able to add to the access list. It might conceivably already be full. If, on the

Re: (External):Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
I've never heard that a severance package is required by law in the US, although it would likely be a state issue rather than Federal. From war stories I've encountered I'd say almost certainly not. Large responsible companies usually offer something. Terms vary, but it's designed to keep torch

Re: (External):Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread michelbutz
What about the tax issue Think severance and employment are taxed differently I think severance is at higher tax rate Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2015, at 5:21 PM, J O Skip Robinson > wrote: > > I've never heard that a severance package is required by law in

Re: (External):Re: Fwd: Bank’s severance deal indebts laid off IT workers to be ‘on call’ for 2 years of tech support — without pay

2015-10-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
Hmm. I'll let you know next year. ;-) . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: (External):Re: Subscribe to RACF-L

2015-10-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
A new colleague recently had great difficulty subscribing to IBM-MAIN. The problem turned out to be on our side but not specific to IBM-MAIN. Some time ago a filter was put in place to reject email whose Envelope Sender was blank. This was supposedly to ward off unsolicited, unwanted list

Re: (External):Re: Bookmanager BUILD and z/OS V2.2

2015-10-22 Thread J O Skip Robinson
A more outrageous example. Some years ago management decided that we did not really need Netview, so they refused to order the next upgrade that was actually quite a bit more expensive. BUILDMCS came to the rescue. By comparison with Book Mgr, Netview is very complicated. Had elements in

Re: More "ageing mainframe" (bad) press.

2015-10-22 Thread Clark Morris
On 30 Sep 2015 03:07:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On 30/09/2015 4:37 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:31:13 +0800, David Crayford >> wrote: >> >>> CentreLink is a 26,000 MIP customer >>>

Re: COBOL V5.x and CSP descendants was Re: New and improved IBM migration recommendations for COBOL V5

2015-10-22 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Oct 2015 01:04:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >You've made this exact point before about two years ago with Tom Ross >(among others) in the loop. Visual Age Gen had continued the practice for PAC field of forcing the F zone on positive numbers. From the EGL 7.1 manual:

Re: More "ageing mainframe" (bad) press.

2015-10-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 21:07:46 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: > >The EBCDIIC ASCII problem is another issue. ... > IBM should recognize this problem and complete the enhanced ASCII support in the xlc runtime. It seems pretty much there in the preprocessor and the compiler. -- gil

Re: Subscribe to RACF-L

2015-10-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jorge Garcia wrote: > I know that it's not a topic a about IBM-Main list, but in our shop the > collegues want to subsribe to this RACF-L and we don't receive any email with > the confirmation code. We use this link: https://listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa That link is right and working. I have

Re: C lang. embedded HLASM latest z/OS 2.1

2015-10-22 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht < elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote: > John McKown wrote: > > >Mainly that the compiler inserted an NOPR 0 after my simple command. > > Hmmm, I remembered that Borland Turbo Pascal [1] could do that similar > trick, but I don't have MSDOS

C lang. embedded HLASM latest z/OS 2.1

2015-10-22 Thread John McKown
Just "for fun and profit" (learning), I inserted an unnecessary HLASM statement into a C program (helloworld.c type). I am curious about the generated code. Mainly that the compiler inserted an NOPR 0 after my simple command. The statement was the first executable in main() and output in the

OMVS directory question

2015-10-22 Thread william janulin
To list; I have a websphere directory that I can see when I am in TSO ISH. However, when I try to point to it in OMVS, I get the following: IBM is a registered trademark of the IBM Corp.      IBMUSER:/u/ibmuser:

Re: Subscribe to RACF-L

2015-10-22 Thread Jorge Garcia
Thank Elardus. We know this link is ready and working but when you add you name and email al push subscribe appears in the top: "A confirmation request is being sent under separate cover. " but no mail is received in our shop. regards

Re: C lang. embedded HLASM latest z/OS 2.1

2015-10-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
John McKown wrote: >Mainly that the compiler inserted an NOPR 0 after my simple command. Hmmm, I remembered that Borland Turbo Pascal [1] could do that similar trick, but I don't have MSDOS and Pascal anymore. I never tried that [inserting machine code to speed up things] out with C and C++.

Re: Syncsort question: Why do I get error RDW NOT INCLUDED?

2015-10-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Answered my own question by experimentation. Seems that OVERLAY is just like BUILD except that it does not permit the shorthand notation of "position:position" at the end of the specifications to mean "from here to the end of the record, however long it may be". And OVERLAY is not needed to

Re: (External):Re: Unicode services Red alert

2015-10-22 Thread Haselbach, Markus
Yes we had first 12th of dec. in our appl test Sysplexthen jumped to 30rd dec and had the problem; we tried Ipling with many dates until someone had the idea that the tod clock has near there a special value... Brgds Markus Haselbach -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: OMVS directory question

2015-10-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:07:44 +, william janulin wrote: >To list; >I have a websphere directory that I can see when I am in TSO ISH. However, >when I try to point to it in OMVS, I get the following: >IBM is a registered trademark of the IBM Corp.  >

O/T Migraine in the mainframe: Unisys reports more losses

2015-10-22 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/22/ unisys_reports_more_disappointing_results/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: More "ageing mainframe" (bad) press.

2015-10-22 Thread David Crayford
On 23/10/2015 9:31 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 21:07:46 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: The EBCDIIC ASCII problem is another issue. ... IBM should recognize this problem and complete the enhanced ASCII support in the xlc runtime. It seems pretty much there in the preprocessor

Re: Syncsort question: Why do I get error RDW NOT INCLUDED?

2015-10-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
It can. See sort docs on the SYMNAMES input DD for the sort (either Syncsort or DFSORT), and IBM (well, actually I think it was Frank Yeager or one of his close cohorts) provided us with a nice Rexx tool to convert COBOL copy books to SYMNAMES input.

Re: Syncsort question: Why do I get error RDW NOT INCLUDED?

2015-10-22 Thread Clark Morris
On 22 Oct 2015 08:09:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >It can. See sort docs on the SYMNAMES input DD for the sort (either Syncsort >or DFSORT), and IBM (well, actually I think it was Frank Yeager or one of his >close cohorts) provided us with a nice Rexx tool to convert COBOL

Re: OMVS directory question

2015-10-22 Thread Lucas Rosalen
It looks like you have /usr as a directory, not a symbolic link to /Z21Z/usr/, which seems to be the correct path in this case. Lucas On Oct 22, 2015 16:13, "Paul Gilmartin" < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 14:07:44 +, william janulin wrote: > >

Re: C lang. embedded HLASM latest z/OS 2.1

2015-10-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
John, Depending on the OPT, ARCH and TUNE compiler settings I suspect it may be an optimization to avoid AGI (Address Generation Interlock). Nothing to do with alignment per se. And to your desire to replace the C prologue and epilogue -- Check out Metal C. It allows you to do precisely

Re: Subscribe to RACF-L

2015-10-22 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Jorge, I had the exact same problem a while ago. Redoing the process worked for me. No, the confirmation email was not lost amog spam ones :) Lucas On Oct 22, 2015 16:48, "Elardus Engelbrecht" wrote: > Jorge Garcia wrote: > > >Thank Elardus. We know this link

Re: C lang. embedded HLASM latest z/OS 2.1

2015-10-22 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote: > John, > > Depending on the OPT, ARCH and TUNE compiler settings I suspect it may be > an optimization to avoid AGI (Address Generation Interlock). Nothing to do > with alignment per se. > > And to your

Re: Syncsort question: Why do I get error RDW NOT INCLUDED?

2015-10-22 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
That would be a very significant and useful addition to SORT capabilities from either vendor. There are "gotcha's" though, like when the COBOL copy book written by the programmer uses illegal COBOL strings to allow REPLACE of the high-level part of the data names in the definition file/member,

Bookmanager BUILD and z/OS V2.2

2015-10-22 Thread Juergen Kehr
As you probably know Bookmanager BUILD isn't supported and delivered with z/OS V2.2 anymore. We've had the idea to transfer the "old" Bookmanager BUILD FMIDs via BUILDMCS into a seperate CSI in the V2.2 environment. Now our question is: Will this work? Of course it's not offically supported,

FW: Weird CICS/STC problem

2015-10-22 Thread Phil Smith
We have a problem with a stacking, space-switching, cross-memory PC routine called from CICS (from an L8 region). It works fine--it's heavily used and heavily tested--except when testing some invalid use cases, which force a S0C4 (as expected). What isn't expected is that the CICS region goes