Re: System check stopped state - what is it?

2016-01-22 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Yes, I saw it's not a wait state. A check stop is the result of a hardware malfunctioning. Do a find on 'check stop' (not stopped) in POP. Maybe you can find the explanation of the 0C, possibly a bit-combination i.s.o. a value. Otherwise, you might have to consult the z13 manual for its

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Mike Schwab > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Compile error > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Gibney, David Allen,Jr

Identifying creator of SMF records

2016-01-22 Thread Field, Alan
Is there a way to identify what is creating user written SMF records? We have 210s, 230s and 254s that we can't identify the source. We've dumped the records and looked at them. Some give hints (e.g. the 230s look like perhaps CA OpsMVS, the 254s perhaps something related to SAF). TIA Alan

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

2016-01-22 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I'm no assembler expert, but how about L R15,COUNTER AFI R15,1 STR15,COUNTER > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:14:49 -0500 > From: i...@panix.com > Subject: Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance > info? > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > In article

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Mike Schwab
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Gibney, David Allen,Jr wrote: > I've never worked with JES3. What does it offer in "disk and tape control" > that DFSMS doesn't? Or, are we talking a different kind of control? It doesn't start until the dataset names / tape volumes are not in

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

2016-01-22 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Or dare I suggest: ASI COUNTER,1 > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:30:02 -0700 > From: frank.swarbr...@outlook.com > Subject: Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance > info? > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > I'm no assembler expert, but how about > L R15,COUNTER > AFI

zEDC

2016-01-22 Thread Phillips, Thomas
Is anyone using the new zEDC cards in a production environment? We are running z13's with z/OS 2.1. Feel free to contact me offline, if you'd like. Thanks, Tom Phillips Principal Financial Group -Message Disclaimer- This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

2016-01-22 Thread Charles Mills
Depending on the newness of your hardware. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a source for detailed,

Re: Identifying creator of SMF records

2016-01-22 Thread Charles Mills
230 is probably ACF2 if that is a possibility. 210 might be Voltage if that is a possibility. http://www.watsonwalker.com/SMFreference.pdf If you turn those types off in SMFPRMxx you may get an error message from the component that is trying to write them. Charles -Original Message-

Re: Man Versus System

2016-01-22 Thread Phil Smith III
John McKown wrote, re TPF: >I worked at Braniff Airways before it went under. The reservation system >ran ACP on a 2 Meg 3033. The thing would IPL in about 5 seconds. The ACP >systems people were a bit strange. They had the source and modified it. I >remember the CE complaining that the ACP

Re: Man Versus System

2016-01-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes: > ​Descended from ACP (Airline Control Program). > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Airline_Control_Program​ > > I worked at Braniff Airways before it went under. The reservation system > ran ACP on a 2 Meg 3033. The thing would IPL in about 5

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Rugen, Len
I ran OS/VS1 on a 4341 and later I think on a 4381. We also ran VM, OS/VS1 had a VM "Assist" mode where it didn't page, but let VM page for it. I think OS/VS1 ran JES, just JES, no 2 or 3 after it, but it looked a lot like JES2.

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
I'm guessing it comes from the same place that causes people to pronounce CICS "kicks". IIRC, DL1 is actually morphed from DL/1 which morphed from DL/I which is the acronym for Data Language/Interface which is part of IMS, is it not? Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
jo.skip.robin...@att.net (Skip Robinson) writes: > The name 'DB2' seems to have followed the 1980s tradition of what I call > 'name bloat', the practice of inflating a moniker in one way or another to > make a product look more mature or more elegant. The paragon in my mind was > dBASE II from

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
other trivia from ibm jargon: MVM - n. Multiple Virtual Memory. The original name for MVS (q.v.), which fell foul of the fashion of changing memory to storage. MVS - n. Multiple Virtual Storage, an alternate name for OS/VS2 (Release 2), and hence a direct descendent of OS. OS/VS2 (Release 1) was

Re: Man Versus System

2016-01-22 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Rick Troth wrote: > Helpful, because I am preparing yet another MF intro, > where the acronyms seem to be what confuse non-mainframers more than > anything else. > > Where do you place VSE? (since it's not one of "the big two") > ​Descended

Man Versus System

2016-01-22 Thread Rick Troth
On 01/22/2016 01:40 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: other trivia from ibm jargon: MVM - n. Multiple Virtual Memory. The original name for MVS (q.v.), which fell foul of the fashion of changing memory to storage. MVS - n. Multiple Virtual Storage, an alternate name for OS/VS2 (Release 2), and

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

2016-01-22 Thread Randy Hudson
In article <000401d140df$6f05a2a0$4d10e7e0$@att.net> Skip wrote: > As a newbie, I got curious about the relative speed of these strategies: > > 1. L R15, COUNTER > 2. A R15,=F(+1) > 3. ST R15, COUNTER > > 1. L R15, COUNTER > 2. LA R15,1(,R15) > 3. ST R15, COUNTER > > I asked my manager, who

Load module management

2016-01-22 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi all, I have a client who is looking for a way to manage moving modules from test into production. They don't really have any extra money to spend, so preferably they would like it to be free, but low cost is also an alternative. They would like it to be somewhat panel driven (ISPF or

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
JES3 does device allocation before the job is allowed to run. For tape drives it grabs the needed number of drives so you do not run into "Waiting for a Drive" issues. It did the same back in the mountable DASD days. I think it also tracks Tape Volumes so you do not run into "I need Volume X"

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 08:50 -0800 on 01/22/2016, Skip Robinson wrote about Re: Compile error: There never was a plain old 'JES'. I thought the spooling subsystem in OS/VS1 was called JES. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
And then there was Star Wars (AKA: A New Hope [which was added when the film was rereleased as part of the release of The Empire Strikes Back]) which opened with a crawl saying Episode 4". That was just because they were emulating the old serials where each segment was a numbered Chapter with

Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance info?

2016-01-22 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Works on mine! :-) > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:33:49 -0800 > From: charl...@mcn.org > Subject: Re: Is there a source for detailed, instruction-level performance > info? > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Depending on the newness of your hardware. > > Charles > > -Original Message- >

SRB Mode and C functions

2016-01-22 Thread Janet Graff
We recently found that a pthread_mutex_lock() issues an SVC under the covers which causes our code in SRB Mode to abend with a S0F8-004. Does anyone have a list of C functions (POSIX as well as stdlib) that are illegal in SRB Mode? Thanks! Janet

Re: Man Versus System

2016-01-22 Thread Ed Finnell
Not nearly as unhappy as the Ops Mgr that found out they had replied "u" all 1000 times. In a message dated 1/22/2016 3:51:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, li...@akphs.com writes: MVS and TPF were quite unhappy about it.

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Frank Swarbrick
In the opening crawl for the original release of Star Wars not only did not say "A New Hope", it also did not say Episode IV. See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKRIUiyF0N4 Frank > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:52:01 -0500 > From: hal9...@panix.com > Subject: Re: Compile error > To:

Re: Load module management

2016-01-22 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Hi Brian, I have never used it, but I guess this is what SCLM does, isn't it? I also recklessly assume it's imbedded with TSO/ISPF somehow - at least I've *always* seen it in every client's ISPF menu. Thanks,

Re: Identifying creator of SMF records

2016-01-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Alan, I think the better forum with be either the MICS Community on CA website or MXG.COM If you have SAS and MXG or SAS and MICS, one of them might have a cross reference or way to determine SMF details. I have usually maintained a text file in SYS1.PARMLIB that contains a list of either

Re: Identifying creator of SMF records

2016-01-22 Thread Charles Mills
> documented in the vendors installation manual. So I would start with that True enough, but hard to work backwards. Given "ACF2" it is fairly easy to come up with "230." Given "230" it is tough to come up with "ACF2" (other than from Cheryl's or your own list.) Lizette makes a good point

Re: SRB Mode and C functions

2016-01-22 Thread Sam Siegel
Look in the XL C/C++ run time library reference in appendix B Function Support Table. It provides a comprehensive list of functions which can be used under an SRB. Sam On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Janet Graff < 004dc9e91b6d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > We recently found that

Re: SRB Mode and C functions

2016-01-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 January 2016 at 17:43, Janet Graff <004dc9e91b6d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > We recently found that a pthread_mutex_lock() issues an SVC under the covers > which causes our > code in SRB Mode to abend with a S0F8-004. > > Does anyone have a list of C functions (POSIX as well

Re: Identifying creator of SMF records

2016-01-22 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 22, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Barry Merrill wrote: ---SNIP-- you can often identify the creator and find the SYSPROG who chose that SMF record type to confirm! Dr Merrill: Yes this is pretty simple, in the old days. The turnover rate of sysprogs

Re: Identifying creator of SMF records

2016-01-22 Thread Field, Alan
Thanks Lizette. We use IEASVC00 to keep track of SVCS but there is no defined member to register SMF numbers. We have a member describing the ones in use and our keeper of SMF has just noticed three record types are unidentified hence our interest. Barry Merrill has offered assistance in

Re: System check stopped state - what is it?

2016-01-22 Thread Jousma, David
I didn't look the code up, but I'm assuming you did a POR with an updated IOCDS? _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f

Re: System check stopped state - what is it?

2016-01-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-01-22 o 16:38, Jousma, David pisze: I didn't look the code up, but I'm assuming you did a POR with an updated IOCDS? No, the CPC has been POR-ed many days ago, other LPARs work OK. It was dufing operating system LOAD (first action of IPL) Kees, I searched PoP for 0C and read all

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Staller, Allan
Meanwhile there did emerge a 'JES3', but it was not an evolutionary descendant of JES2. Both products have coexisted, albeit uneasily, for decades. We used to imagine a JES5 or JES6 (depending on one's arithmetic proclivity) that would somehow combine the best features of both products, but

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
Probably just an old fairy tale, but I was told long ago that DB2 came about as a name because IBM already had IMS so the 2 in DB2 was to distinguish it as being IBM's second DBMS offering. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: Adrdssu restore error ADR380E RC60

2016-01-22 Thread Staller, Allan
RTFM. 60 The requested data set is a PDSE, HFS or an extended sequential data set, but there is a pre-allocated target data set that is a different type or has different attributes. file, I am receiving this error message. ADR380E (001)-FRLBO(06), DATA SET SYS1.PKZIP.R80.XXX NOT

Re: Load module management

2016-01-22 Thread Staller, Allan
SCLM was my first take Panvalet and Librarian also perform SCLM like functions... After that the go way up I have a client who is looking for a way to manage moving modules from test into production. They don't really have any extra money to spend, so preferably they would like

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Skip Robinson
The name 'DB2' seems to have followed the 1980s tradition of what I call 'name bloat', the practice of inflating a moniker in one way or another to make a product look more mature or more elegant. The paragon in my mind was dBASE II from Ashton-Tate. There never was a plain old dBASE. The roman

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Richard Pinion
JES2 was a half ASP project, just a little play on words :) --- jo.skip.robin...@att.net wrote: From: Skip Robinson To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Compile error Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 08:50:43 -0800 The name 'DB2' seems to have

Re: System check stopped state - what is it?

2016-01-22 Thread Jousma, David
I found information about check stop in the z/architecture POP CH11 PG 11-10 System Check Stop In a multiprocessing configuration, some errors, malfunctions, and damage conditions are of such severity that the condition causes all CPUs in the configuration to enter the check-stop state. This

System check stopped state - what is it?

2016-01-22 Thread R.S.
I tried to perform LOAD on some LPAR. I've got the following message: Logical partition LPAR01 is in the system check stopped state. Reason code = 0C. Where to find the meaning of the code? It is z13 machine. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać

Re: System check stopped state - what is it?

2016-01-22 Thread John McKown
What OS? Any chance it is z/OS and you have an IFL defined in the LPAR? Pure guess on my part. 2016-01-22 8:35 GMT-06:00 R.S. : > I tried to perform LOAD on some LPAR. > I've got the following message: > > Logical partition LPAR01 is in the system check stopped

Re: System check stopped state - what is it?

2016-01-22 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
No messges id? POP has some information about machine-checks and check-stop conditions, but I couldn't find a 0C quickly. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: 22 January, 2016 15:35 To:

Re: System check stopped state - what is it?

2016-01-22 Thread R.S.
Unfortunately no HW message: A logically partitioned mode event occurred. Select Details for information. Details: Logical partition LPAR01 is in the system check stopped state. Reason code = 0C. Note, it's not wait state, just "system check stopped state". I tried to use google, searched PoP

Re: System check stopped state - what is it?

2016-01-22 Thread Donald J.
Is you IODF volume address correct? Maybe try following these instructions to display the IPL Vector Table control block which is mapped by SYS1.MODGEN(IHAIVT) Using the hardware Alter/Display facility, read the real address in central storage at X'14'. This address points to the IPL

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Skip Robinson
As we saw in the recent thread on converting from JES3 to JES2, JES3 from the beginning provided function--especially in the area of data device control--that was never envisioned for JES2. I think that most of the recent convergence of function in the two products mostly involves what we think of

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread McCabe, Ron
So where does DL1 fit in? Ron McCabe Mutual of Enumclaw -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Compile error Probably just an old

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
I've never worked with JES3. What does it offer in "disk and tape control" that DFSMS doesn't? Or, are we talking a different kind of control? > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Skip Robinson > Sent: Friday, January

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Skip Robinson
It's Friday, right? After the release of Mel Brooks' History of the World Part I, he was often asked when we could expect to see Part II. He claimed never to have intended a Part II. Then why call it Part I? Because that qualifier is almost never used. The first one is called Name; the next one is

Re: Identifying creator of SMF records

2016-01-22 Thread Barry Merrill
In general, you have to rely on a hex dump of a few of the user SMF records, to look for obvious fields and contents, and ask your SYSPROGs/DBAs etc, what products are installed. Sometimes there is a SUBSYSTEM ID that identifies the creator in bytes 15-18. You can identify lots of EBCDIC text

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
hal9...@panix.com (Robert A. Rosenberg) writes: > And then there was Star Wars (AKA: A New Hope [which was added when > the film was rereleased as part of the release of The Empire Strikes > Back]) which opened with a crawl saying Episode 4". That was just > because they were emulating the old

Re: Identifying creator of SMF records

2016-01-22 Thread Clark Morris
On 22 Jan 2016 18:22:41 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >In general, you have to rely on a hex dump of a few of the user SMF records, >to look for obvious fields and contents, and ask your SYSPROGs/DBAs etc, >what products are installed. >Sometimes there is a SUBSYSTEM ID that

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Larry Chenevert
From: Robert A. Rosenberg There never was a plain old 'JES'. "I thought the spooling subsystem in OS/VS1 was called JES." You are correct: JES Did that (VS1/JES) through a lot of of the '70's. Then VS1 under VM, then SVS, then DOS, VS1, and MVS under VM (different place), then finally MVS.

Re: Compile error

2016-01-22 Thread Larry Chenevert
At 08:50 -0800 on 01/22/2016, Skip Robinson wrote about Re: Compile error: There never was a plain old 'JES'. "I thought the spooling subsystem in OS/VS1 was called JES." You are correct: JES (for VS1). Through most of the '70's did VS1, VS1 under VM/370, SVS, then at a different place,

Re: Identifying creator of SMF records

2016-01-22 Thread retired mainframer
If none of the intelligent advice helps, would the timestamp in the record narrow it down to whatever was running at that moment? If you have several records of one type, only the tasks running at all those times would be candidates. And probably none of the IBM tasks. > -Original