AW: Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

>But: what discussion is this? Does iegbener support comments? No. PMFJI, and I stopped ready further post after this one, so maybe some else cared to RTFM and posted the result. And if not, here is the relevant section from the utilities manual. It is pretty clear about comments, IMHO.

Re: SMP/E theology question

Dan Little wrote, in part: > - t - is an alphabetic character used to indicate type of function. > Avoid the IBM valuse of A,B,C,D,E,F,H and J. (and for the nitpicky among us, "valuse" is a direct quote from the book) I should have started with that book, thanks. But of course it raises

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

What would you expect IEBGENER to do in this case? It won't copy SYSUT1 to SYSUT2 by default because that only happens when SYSIN is DD DUMMY. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, December

Re: Catalog

venkat kulkarni wrote: >Is there any way to get list of user catalog connected to any particular >master catalog Yes, look in http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idai200/da6i2cat.htm or just type in TSO this TSO HELP LISTC Groete / Greetings Elardus

Re: Catalog

Does the AMS command LISTCAT USERCAT CAT(cat_name) not do what you want. Add the ALL operand if you need to see the aliases. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:46 PM

Re: Using Extended Format as default

> On Dec 20, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Porowski, Kenneth wrote: > > Is there any compelling reason why I should not (or can't) use Extended > Format for all SMS managed Sequential (flat and GDG) and VSAM (KSDS, ESDS, > Linear) datasets? > > Anything special I would need to do

Catalog

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Re: SMP/E theology question

On 20 December 2016 at 16:36, Phil Smith wrote: > Since we started, we've named SMP/E packages Vxxxvrm, where xxx = the > IBM-assigned product prefix and vrm = v.r.m. > > Why? I don't know. It was what I was led to believe was the One True Way. I've understood this to be the

Re: A Means To RECALL Migrated GDS' Based on a Block of Relative Gens

It's also worth noting that you can use wild cards in the HRECALL data set name if you can be that generic, i.e. bring back ALL migrated generations with a single HRECALL command. I use it a lot to recall all my personal code libraries before I go on overnight call-out - I hate waiting for data

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

Yes, I was not explicit. As your previous attempt with * in column one showed, the label must have a "command" on the same line. If one-to-eight characters is enough for you to distinguish your multiple operations, and you could live with the gobbling of characters from your command, then a

Re: COBOL inline CPU timer

Thanks Jim Mulder. Perhaps you can provide guidance if I explain what I thought I was doing. At times there's a bit of code which "runs like a dog with no legs". There will usually be several options to deal with it, but to actually land on which is "better" you need to know how they perform

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:35:55 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >o Simple copy; no editing; no Alias, plus > >Not sure what you tried but here is an example of having comments for >IEBGENER Sysin control cards. Took the example documented in the manual >and copied a 80 byte file. >... >//SYSIN

Re: Using Extended Format as default

Only consideration I have is for run away datasets. Those that could grow beyond 4GB limit and you do not know it until your storage pool (and any overflows/spill pools associated with the pool) have been consumed by the extended dataset. I have had pools fill up due to one VSAM file that

Re: Using Extended Format as default

W dniu 2016-12-20 o 21:37, Porowski, Kenneth pisze: Is there any compelling reason why I should not (or can't) use Extended Format for all SMS managed Sequential (flat and GDG) and VSAM (KSDS, ESDS, Linear) datasets? Anything special I would need to do for Linear DB2 databases/tablespaces?

Re: Using Extended Format as default

I have for years. X37 is almost a thing of the past. I do have a NOEXTEND DATACLAS for the few exceptions. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Porowski, Kenneth > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:38 PM > To:

Re: SMP/E theology question

The z/OS Packaging Rules publication for SMP/E lays out a naming standard. 10.2 SYSMOD IDs The SYSMOD ID of a function is called the function modification identifier (FMID). The FMID is a 7 character identifier that needs to be unique to distinguish one product from another. One way to help

Re: A Means To RECALL Migrated GDS' Based on a Block of Relative Gens

FDRReport is able to select file entries with great precision and produce control cards to do such a task easily. It's been a handful of years since I've worked with FDR, but I found IDP support to be very helpful and knowledgeable, and able to provide me with an FDRREPORT solution to fix my

SMP/E theology question

Since we started, we've named SMP/E packages Vxxxvrm, where xxx = the IBM-assigned product prefix and vrm = v.r.m. Why? I don't know. It was what I was led to believe was the One True Way. But is it? Could we use xxxvrm, or xxxvrmZ, or whatever we want within that? Thanks in advance,

Re: A Means To RECALL Migrated GDS' Based on a Block of Relative Gens

Thanks all. At this point it looks like Sri's LISTCAT/SORT/RECALL or a REXX exec to do all the similar steps in one. The Extended GDG I believe would be overkill in terms of catalogued datasets. Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

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Re: Using Extended Format as default

I can't think of any reason you should not, but allow for exceptions due to broken (usually home grown) code that has some unforeseen dependencies. PDS/PDSE and SORTWK(?) have some known restrictions. There might be a few other areas with restrictions, but in general, I think you'll do well.

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

Yes, it was a serious question. Sorry for bothering you with my unimaginative inquiry. We can't all be as smart as you... Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul

Using Extended Format as default

Is there any compelling reason why I should not (or can't) use Extended Format for all SMS managed Sequential (flat and GDG) and VSAM (KSDS, ESDS, Linear) datasets? Anything special I would need to do for Linear DB2 databases/tablespaces? TIA Ken Ken Porowski VP Mainframe Engineering CIT

Re: A Means To RECALL Migrated GDS' Based on a Block of Relative Gens

An EXTENDED GDG can have 999 generations active. I believe that a GDG must be defined as EXTENDED, it isn't ALTERable. One thing to keep in mind is that with an EXTENDED GDG, each generation has its own catalog entry. That could cause a significant catalog size increase. I don't know why it

Re: A Means To RECALL Migrated GDS' Based on a Block of Relative Gens

What Sri said! Step 1 : Get Listcat information for the GDG Base Step 2 : parse the Listcat information for the migrated generations and generate HRECALL commands using DFSORT Step3 : Run the commands from step 2 //*** //* GET THE

Re: A Means To RECALL Migrated GDS' Based on a Block of Relative Gens

No you can't do a block recall. CLIST/REXX/XDC are your friends. Get listing of dataset to a file, Massage the file to generate the appropriate HRECALL commands Execute the massaged file. Redefine of the GDG is not necessary. ALTER 'gdgbase' SCRATCH will take care of that for you. Depending on

Re: A Means To RECALL Migrated GDS' Based on a Block of Relative Gens

You mentioned FDR as the DASD management software. You could use FDREPORT to select the GDG's in question, and then have FDREPORT generate the appropriate control statements. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sri h

Re: A Means To RECALL Migrated GDS' Based on a Block of Relative Gens

Bill, Step 1 : Get Listcat information for the GDG Base Step 2 : parse the Listcat information for the migrated generations and generate HRECALL commands using DFSORT Step3 : Run the commands from step 2 //*** //* GET THE LIST OF

A Means To RECALL Migrated GDS' Based on a Block of Relative Gens

Bottom Line: I am looking for a means to RECALL a block of migrated GDS (GDG generation datasets) from the previous month via a monthly task. BACKGROUND First, I'm in applications not systems. Second, we are changing our storage management system where we must now define (and redefine existing)

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

o Simple copy; no editing; no Alias, plus Not sure what you tried but here is an example of having comments for IEBGENER Sysin control cards. Took the example documented in the manual and copied a 80 byte file. //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SORTDIAG DD DUMMY //SYSUT1

Creating Aliases (Was IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?)

I am curious, what are you doing for ALIAS definitions? In batch I can run TSO and use the Rename Function with ALIAS keyword. Then I can add comments to that. To create AUXMEM as an alias for MEMBER1 of data set PREFIX.TEST.DATA, enter: RENAME test.data(member1) test.data(auxmem) ALIAS or

Re: COBOL inline CPU timer

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:59:51 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote: > > ASCBEJST does not include the CPU time spent in the current >dispatch. > I knew someone who dealt with this by issuing an (almost) no-op SVC to force re-dispatch. IIRC, he used CHAP. (Almost) every language needs a no-op. But does the

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:25:49 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote: >If you only need to be able to differentiate, how about using the "label"? >Starting in column one and extending all the way to column eight if you need >it, just make a reference (more contracted than your comment may have been

Re: COBOL inline CPU timer

> With the usual provisos (don't use in production, don't rely on it > being available after z/OS upgrade) here is a module which will make > the CPU time available in the program which calls it (or wherever > the storage happens to be defined). > > At the "front" of a program, > > CALL

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

If you only need to be able to differentiate, how about using the "label"? Starting in column one and extending all the way to column eight if you need it, just make a reference (more contracted than your comment may have been intended to be) to each particular execution. What functionality of

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On 2016-12-20, at 09:40, Tom Brennan wrote: > > > LOL - best comment so far :) > > > > Steve Smith wrote: > >> I think the strangest thing is somebody is actually using IEBGENER > control >

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

On 2016-12-20, at 09:40, Tom Brennan wrote: > LOL - best comment so far :) > > Steve Smith wrote: >> I think the strangest thing is somebody is actually using IEBGENER control >> cards. > In this case, I wanted only to insert a comment. But I have used them to create aliases in batch JCL.

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

LOL - best comment so far :) Steve Smith wrote: I think the strangest thing is somebody is actually using IEBGENER control cards. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

I hesitate to ask, but how are you using IEBGENER without JCL? Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:53 AM On Mon, 19 Dec 2016

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

I think the strangest thing is somebody is actually using IEBGENER control cards. I did once, 2-3 decades ago, and mainly just to try it, as best as I recall. And, it's a pretty simple utility, how bad do the control cards *really* need to be documented? sas On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:03 AM,

Re: Changing System REXX console name

The only place I found these names documented was MVS Planning: Operations in the section headed "Removing extended MCS console definitions from a configuration". This was by chance when investigating a storage shortage in CONSOLE a/s which turned out to be OA49222. Andrew Metcalfe

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > ​ > > > I have little respect for antiquity as an excuse. When someone tells me, > "It's > not better because it's forty years old", my reactioh is often, "You mean > they > have had that

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:30:00 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >I'm just curious - why not put comments in JCL if you can not put it in SYSIN? > What if there's no JCL? I've resorted to writing a line to a file and appending SYSPRINT to that. But it's cumbersome. And I'd be considerably

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Re: Changing System REXX console name

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Re: Changing System REXX console name

There is an (closed) apar about it. IBM promissed to fix in 36 month. don't remember when count starts... \BTW, never tested that, but how about TSO CONSOLE command in SYSTEM Rexx? did you try that? ITschak ITschak Mugzach Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments

Changing System REXX console name

I use the AXRCMD() function in my System REXX console automation to issue z/OS operator commands. The commands run as user AXRUSER because that's how I have them set up. But the console names are "bad"; for example *AXT01H1 . The "H1" at the end appears to be my value. The "01" seems to be a

Re: COBOL inline CPU timer

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COBOL inline CPU timer

How to time COBOL code blocks, prompted by John McKown's "how to: convince programmer something else is better.": See here: http://ibmmainframes.com/viewtopic.php?p=294906 The main reason for including the link is to show the program nicely formatted. Here's the post, in case the link-to

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

Sorry, by "ordinary applications" I meant "non-systems' software". Stuff wot we write. I'm not commenting on whether it is a good or bad policy (because in isolation you can't tell), I'm just saying there are sites that prevent/limit its use without specific "authorisation". I think there's

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

ICEGENER will call IEBGENER if the task becomes complex. But: what discussion is this? Does iegbener support comments? No. Ok, pity, accept it or open a PMR/RFE/SHAREreq. End of discussion, the rest should have been split off to nostalgic or Camp1/2/3 threads. Kees. -Original Message-

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

Bill Woodger wrote: >For reasons of control, some (many?) sites prevent/limit the use of INTRDR by >ordinary applications. Why? The potential for "nefarious" use. Even the >JOB-which-submits-itself and variants, by accident or design. That is weird and crazy. Automation software does also

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

For reasons of control, some (many?) sites prevent/limit the use of INTRDR by ordinary applications. Why? The potential for "nefarious" use. Even the JOB-which-submits-itself and variants, by accident or design. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: IEBGENER SYSIN Comments?

You mean use DFSORT? Executing ICEGENER with control cards will cause IEBGENER to be executed (because DFSORT isn't IEBGENER) and any comments would then behave as they do with IEBGENER. DFSORT can have asterisk in column one, "label" in column one (which can be used as a "one-word" comment),

Re: how to: convince programmer something else is better.

If your average buffer-length is 100 (think compressed address), there's a three-percent CPU reduction irrespective of anything else (all processing is otherwise identical), grows with a smaller average, reduces with a larger. Depending on what is within the IF (it may be, and I'd hope is,