Re: calculating data set size - compression concern

Very good point. On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:39 AM Mike Schwab wrote: >Listcat output changes when fields need more digits. DCollect doesn't change. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 12:39 AM To:

Re: calculating data set size - compression concern

Listcat output changes when fields need more digits. DCollect doesn't change. On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 11:20 PM Mike Hochee wrote: > > I was unaware of both DCOLLECT as well as the compression related fields on > the LISTCAT output. Thanks much to Mike and Kolusu. We can use the LISTCAT >

Re: calculating data set size - compression concern

I was unaware of both DCOLLECT as well as the compression related fields on the LISTCAT output. Thanks much to Mike and Kolusu. We can use the LISTCAT info immediately and the DCOLLECT down the road apiece. Appreciate your timely help! Mike -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: calculating data set size - compression concern

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.idai200/recstr.htm IDCAMS DCOLLECT RECORD TYPE D 264(X'108') CHARACTER 8 DCDUDSIZ USER DATA SIZE (64 BIT UNSIGNED BINARY NUMBER) 272(X'110') CHARACTER 8 DCDCUDSZ COMPRESSED DATA SET SIZE (64 BIT UNSIGNED BINARY NUMBER)

Re: ICETOOL - SPLICE two DSNs that match on key. Output Updated and Not Updated

> 2. A dataset with data to insert into a BASE record IF the key data match > I'd like to outputs. > > 1. With the BASE records that were NOT updated > > 2. With the BASE records that WERE updated George, It is tough to diagnose without looking at the data or the joblog. SPLICE is

calculating data set size - compression concern

A couple months ago I was in the process of retrieving the size of a data set on disk until I came across a flag in one or more DSCBs that indicate whether or not the data set is compressed. This was the point at which I stopped coding, concluding that it was probably not possible to come up

Debug tool Via Zos Explorer

Hi Finally got zos explorer installed and configured as I am told it's the only way to debug AMODE 64 C/C++ there doesn't seem to be a programming interface such as CEETEST which works in AMOIDE 31 Running the following code abend 4093/218

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

Same program, different entry points. On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 5:03 PM David Spiegel wrote: > > Hi Skip, > It's AMATERSE (with //SYSUT1 and //SYSUT2) > or TRSMAIN (with //INFILE and //OUTFILE). > > Regards, > David > > On 2019-11-05 17:40, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > Just to be clear: is that

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

Terse, dont terse, your call. I have 100% reliability as long as the destination disk dataset for the ftp is newly created. If the destination dataset already exists, then yes, there have been problems. As you mention there are some specific options on the transfer to specify, and as long as

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

Hi Skip, It's AMATERSE (with //SYSUT1 and //SYSUT2) or TRSMAIN (with //INFILE and //OUTFILE). Regards, David On 2019-11-05 17:40, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Just to be clear: is that AMATERSE? I don't recall ever using IBM's TERSE > internally within the shop, but I can see how it might be

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

Just to be clear: is that AMATERSE? I don't recall ever using IBM's TERSE internally within the shop, but I can see how it might be useful. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

On 11/5/2019 3:11 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: I always terse the dump file too. Had issues with Restore if the file wasn't tersed. On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 03:53 Pierre Fichaud wrote: Dave, I'll do that. The files are not big. They can be sent as ZIP files. Thanks, Pierre

Re: Improving the performance of an ISPF app using OMVS services (bpxwunix)

Not necessarily. See for example, the IBM JZOS batch launcher. It runs in a regular z/OS batch address space. The address space is dubbed when Java its first OMVS service call. Is that "under UNIX"? On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 1:07 PM ITschak Mugzach wrote: > The Java program does not run as a

Re: Improving the performance of an ISPF app using OMVS services (bpxwunix)

What does "under unix" mean exactly? On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 6:32 AM ITschak Mugzach wrote: > Thats fine. However, java itself runs under unix... > > ITschak > > בתאריך יום ב׳, 4 בנוב׳ 2019, 14:30, מאת Steve Austin ‏< > steve.aus...@macro4.com>: > > > It was a while back, but I'm pretty sureI

Re: git with it

Gil, And conspicuous by your omission: "I hate EBCDIC!" ;-) On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 1:53 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 06:42:31 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: > > >The countdown continues towards an epic announcement that will rock

Re: git with it

Looks awesome! :) Will most definitely check it out next Thursday! Ronald Kristel From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Henri Kuiper Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 14:35 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: git with it Just to clarify : the

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

The only reference I could find was in https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=35=2ahUKEwj-w5G99tPlAhUEWqwKHWHNBfw4HhAWMAR6BAgBEAI=https%3A%2F%2Fshare.confex.com%2Fshare%2F118%2Fwebprogram%2FHandout%2FSession10691%2FIntroToSharedQueues.pdf=AOvVaw3QyWMZhBU9yTFG9-57yysI , where it is a 10 meter

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

I always terse the dump file too. Had issues with Restore if the file wasn't tersed. On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 03:53 Pierre Fichaud wrote: > Dave, > I'll do that. The files are not big. > They can be sent as ZIP files. > Thanks, Pierre > >

ICETOOL - SPLICE two DSNs that match on key. Output Updated and Not Updated

I have an ICETOOL process I cannot seem to get right. I have two datasets: 1. A BASE dataset 2. A dataset with data to insert into a BASE record IF the key data match I'd like to outputs. 1. With the BASE records that were NOT updated 2. With the BASE records that WERE updated

Re: git with it

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 06:42:31 -0600, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >The countdown continues towards an epic announcement that will rock the z/OS >development world down to the bit level. Be prepared as you'll have to wait >for the announcement at GSE UK this Thursday at 11:15. Be prepared to git >it. Or go

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 09:12, R.S. wrote: > We know the following types/flavours of mainframe processors: regular > CP, zIIP, IFL, SAP, ICF, older zAAP ...and CBP > This CBP is visible on Support Element panels. Help says it is "CBPs - > Displays the active/unassigned container based processors

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

Dave, I'll do that. The files are not big. They can be sent as ZIP files. Thanks, Pierre -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

There is, and has been since OS/360, although the details have changed. Use SWAREQ to run the SCT chain. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, November

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

You need z/OS reference manuals, not just PoOps and assembler. Since the OP want's previous steps, you also need the mapping macros for, e.g., JCT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf

Re: git with it

Git'er done! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: git with it [External Email] On Thursday the git repository will change from private to public and you'll be

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

SWAREQ. As I recall, the LCT points to the JCT, which points to the first SCT. There are mapping macros for all of them. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent:

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

Yes. It's easier in assembler, where4 you can use SWAREQ to deal with the tokens. If you do it in REXX then you need separate paths for SWA below the line, old format SWA above the line and new format SWA above the line. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:10 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > > OS/VS1 introduced the 3270 device. > > WTF!? > > I was using 3270 devices before OS/VS1 was announced. What is OS/360, > hopped liver? > I remember DIDOCS 3270 consoles on MVT. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:00 PM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I transport ZFS's via FTP all the time. DFDSS dump and restore. > That sounds like a winner to me. My first thought was to use the UNIX "pax" utility. But ADRDSSU of the actual zFS LDS

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

Does that support the new token algorithm? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Crayford Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 2:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WTO

Re: git with it

On Thursday the git repository will change from private to public and you'll be able to git a copy for yourself  Lionel B. Dyck < Website: http://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you

Re: git with it

I just wish it had more detail and fewer superlatives. I assume that the current release icon will eventually take us to details. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Lionel B Dyck

Re: How display level of paging?

X Memory needs X disk for paging backup. Then a System dump needs to copy Memory + Pages, so 3X disk for X Memory. Also leads to the guidance that over 30% percent usage of slots you need to consider increasing disk paging. On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:44 AM Allan Staller wrote: > > 10TB real

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

> OS/VS1 introduced the 3270 device. WTF!? I was using 3270 devices before OS/VS1 was announced. What is OS/360, hopped liver? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

You should be able to use anything that supports Unix files, including e-mail and various forms of FTP. What do you normally use for file transfer with that customer? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

df/DSS DUMP of the ZFS. Use the transportation method of your choice. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pierre Fichaud Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another A customer wants to send us

Re: Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

I transport ZFS's via FTP all the time. DFDSS dump and restore. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering  Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE  |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids,

Zfs from 1 LPAR to another

A customer wants to send us a zFS file created by an IBM product. We develop at Dallas and don't have the product installed. What should the customer do to be able to send it to us ? I've looked through the archives and didn't find what I needed. I can't remember if I saw this in IBM manuals.

Re: How display level of paging?

10TB real 30TB Paging. Implies 3:1 virtual to real. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 10:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How display level of paging? 10TB real 30TB Paging. On Tue, Nov 5,

Re: How display level of paging?

10TB real 30TB Paging. On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:35 AM Allan Staller wrote: > > I never based my estimates on the amount of real. Only on the Virtual. > > Using our same 10TB system with a 2:1 virtual to real would result in 20 TB > page slots and a 60TB paging subsystem. > > > > -Original

Re: How display level of paging?

I never based my estimates on the amount of real. Only on the Virtual. Using our same 10TB system with a 2:1 virtual to real would result in 20 TB page slots and a 60TB paging subsystem. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Tuesday,

Re: DFHSM/DCOLLECT QUESTION [EXTERNAL]

I checked the DFHSM proclib.  There is no CDSSHR=RLS. Since CDSSHR is not speicfied, RLS is not being used.  Thanks for solving the mystery A massive thanks. On Tuesday, November 5, 2019, 10:58:37 a.m. GMT-5, Glenn Wilcock wrote: HSM's usage of RLS Access for the control data sets is

Re: DFHSM/DCOLLECT QUESTION [EXTERNAL]

HSM's usage of RLS Access for the control data sets is driven by the PROCLIB value for CDSSHR. CDSSHR=RLS indicates that HSM should access the CDSes in RLS mode. If CDSSHR is not specified, or has any other value, then you are not using RLS for HSM. DCOLLECT behaves this way because it is

Re: DFHSM/DCOLLECT QUESTION [EXTERNAL]

As you suggested I did the command and I got the following : THE SMSVSAM SERVER ADDRESS SPACE IS NOT ACTIVE That answers my question.  Thanks. On Tuesday, November 5, 2019, 09:36:19 a.m. EST, Feller, Paul wrote: Here is what I see on one of my z/OS 2.2 systems (also saw the same

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

On 2019-11-05 09:56, R.S. wrote: I suspect CBP would be for running docker payloads ? Well, as I wrote, dockers (zCX) use zIIP. You are right the name is very suggestive, but some presentations about docker on z/OS did not mention CBP. zCX requires: - Z14 GA2 - Hardware Feature Code 0104

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

W dniu 2019-11-05 o 15:34, Raphael Jacquot pisze: On 11/5/19 3:32 PM, R.S. wrote: Yes, it is Container Based Processor, however I knew it and wrote here explanation of the three letter acronym. The problem is what is the purpose of CBP? IMHO it's easy to explain what is zIIP, IFL, ICF or IFP,

Re: How display level of paging?

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 17:46:12 -0500, Tom Conley wrote: >I posed this same question about 2 years ago. Then I was dealing with >an LPAR with 131GB, so I created a 400GB paging subsystem to handle the >system. Others suggested SCM, but that was not in the budget. If the >10TB is truly fully

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

On 11/5/19 3:32 PM, R.S. wrote: > Yes, it is Container Based Processor, however I knew it and wrote here > explanation of the three letter acronym. > The problem is what is the purpose of CBP? > IMHO it's easy to explain what is zIIP, IFL, ICF or IFP, but I have no > explanation for CBP. That's

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

Yes, it is Container Based Processor, however I knew it and wrote here explanation of the three letter acronym. The problem is what is the purpose of CBP? IMHO it's easy to explain what is zIIP, IFL, ICF or IFP, but I have no explanation for CBP. That's why I'm asking. ;-) Regards -- Radoslaw

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

Container Based Processor (CBP) https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1OA55159 Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 5, 2019

CBPs (processors) - what is it?

We know the following types/flavours of mainframe processors: regular CP, zIIP, IFL, SAP, ICF, older zAAP ...and CBP This CBP is visible on Support Element panels. Help says it is "CBPs - Displays the active/unassigned container based processors installed on your system." Container sounds like

Re: git with it

Just to clarify : the link to the repo wil "404" until release time. Watch @ispfgit on twitter for the moment that happens. Sent from my wireless iPhone > On 5 Nov 2019, at 12:42, Lionel B Dyck wrote: > > The countdown continues towards an epic announcement that will rock the z/OS >

Re: git with it

;) Sent from my wireless iPhone > On 5 Nov 2019, at 13:03, David Crayford wrote: > > WOW! That looks awsome! Thanks Lionel :) > >> On 2019-11-05 8:42 PM, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >> The countdown continues towards an epic announcement that will rock the z/OS >> development world down to the bit

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

CRJE On 2019-11-05 08:13, Mike Schwab wrote: > OS/VS1 introduced the 3270 device. > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 6:41 AM scott Ford wrote: >> Actually, this in the way back machine we were doing this in the OS /VS2 >> days. >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:38 AM scott Ford wrote: >> >>> Many concepts

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

OS/VS1 introduced the 3270 device. On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 6:41 AM scott Ford wrote: > > Actually, this in the way back machine we were doing this in the OS /VS2 > days. > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:38 AM scott Ford wrote: > > > Many concepts re-surface Steve. > > > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

It's not obvious, but this functionality requires z/OSMF to be active as well as the JESEDS interface configured and active as well. _ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering  Fifth Third

git with it

The countdown continues towards an epic announcement that will rock the z/OS development world down to the bit level. Be prepared as you'll have to wait for the announcement at GSE UK this Thursday at 11:15. Be prepared to git it. Or go to https://zigi.rocks to be a preview.

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

Actually, this in the way back machine we were doing this in the OS /VS2 days. On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:38 AM scott Ford wrote: > Many concepts re-surface Steve. > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:02 PM Steve Smith wrote: > >> This sure sounds like a discussion from the 1980s. Operators? Consoles?

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

Many concepts re-surface Steve. On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 10:02 PM Steve Smith wrote: > This sure sounds like a discussion from the 1980s. Operators? Consoles? > Those are still a thing? > > Try out the new // NOTIFY statement, and send an email to whoever needs to > wake up. > > sas > > > On

Re: DFHSM/DCOLLECT QUESTION [EXTERNAL]

Here is what I see on one of my z/OS 2.2 systems (also saw the same information on a z/OS 2.3 system). There is a section for RLSDATA as part of the CLUSTER information. CLUSTER --- SYSD.HSM.ED.MCDS IN-CAT ---

Re: WTO message at the end of JCL

If the OP is running z/OS 2.3 then JES2 can send email about job completion using the new NOTIFY EMAIL= parameter on the jobcard. On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 12:28 AM Brian Westerman < brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: > Of course there is a way, all you need to do is process the SCT from your >

Re: DFHSM/DCOLLECT QUESTION [EXTERNAL]

I tried your suggestion but the RLS IN USE doesn't show on the LISTCAT. On Monday, November 4, 2019, 01:36:16 p.m. GMT-5, Feller, Paul wrote: In the LISTCAT output look for "RLS IN USE", it should show YES or NO. Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe Technical Support -Original

Re: DFHSM/DCOLLECT QUESTION [EXTERNAL]

Paul, Thanks for your suggestion.  I ran the LISTCAT but there is no RLS IN USE displayed. On Monday, 4 November 2019, 06:36:16 pm UTC, Feller, Paul wrote: In the LISTCAT output look for "RLS IN USE", it should show YES or NO. Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe Technical Support