CICS usage logs?

2020-05-26 Thread Bob Bridges
such a function. Is this something easy I can point out to him, or am I mistaken about it being a feature available to all CICS installations? For that matter, is it something I can maybe find myself, without even bothering him? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Be

Re: How determine local time zone *name* in Rexx?

2020-05-18 Thread Bob Bridges
ething~ in and it'll at least match ~a~ time zone. Not as satisfying as having The Real Local time-zone name, I agree. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* There's a new study out that says too much caffeine can cause hallucinations. I think it's

Oil futures and computer "help"

2020-05-13 Thread Bob Bridges
or the 212 oil contracts Shah bought for 1 cent each, the broker only required his account to have $30 of margin per contract. It was as if Interactive Brokers thought the potential loss of buying at one cent was one cent, rather than the almost unlimited downside that negative prices imply, he

Re: Colossus, Strangelove, etc. was: Developers say...

2020-05-11 Thread Bob Bridges
us both wanted to save the world, after all. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The historian Macaulay famously said that the Puritans opposed bearbaiting not because it gave pain to the bears but because it gave pleasure to the spectators. The Puritans were right:

Re: Developers say Google's Go is 'most sought after' programming language of 2020

2020-05-10 Thread Bob Bridges
r would do that with a machine he built, either. Too many things can go wrong. But a fun movie, if you can ignore that. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The only thing UFO aliens deserve is to be ignored...and when we finally develop the right missiles, to have thei

Re: Developers say Google's Go is 'most sought after' programming language of 2020

2020-05-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Not really the same thing, but I love Dave Barry's comment on brand naming (see tagline). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I also attended Friday night's baseball game between the Marlins and the San Francisco Giants at the stadium here. It was origin

Re: TSO/E SUBMIT exit

2020-05-07 Thread Bob Bridges
Well, at least ~one~ person actually addressed his question! I was beginning to think I was going to have to research it myself, because no one else seemed to want to answer and I was beginning to feel a sort of corporate embarrassment about it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell

Re: ispf save / restore swapbar ?

2020-05-06 Thread Bob Bridges
Ok, stupid question: What's a swapbar? It sounds familiar, so maybe it's something I'm familiar with but have just forgotten momentarily. But...? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The only thing UFO aliens deserve is to be ignored...and when we final

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-03 Thread Bob Bridges
This, by the way, has been a fascinating discussion, for me at least. My thanks to Mr Sipples for contradicting what I thought I knew without question. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Being a programmer is one thing above all else: It is understanding how things

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-03 Thread Bob Bridges
So maybe - maybe, I don't know either - if I sign on to z/OS with a certificate, or LDAP, or anything other than the usual, the sign-on routine MAKES UP an 8-byte ID and stores it in the ACEE. If so, after that everything works fine, I guess. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 33

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-02 Thread Bob Bridges
in that case? Isn't RACROUTE the funneling point for all such checks? And doesn't RACROUTE require an 8-byte ID to identify the actor? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* To be humble to superiors is duty, to equals courtesy, to inferiors nobleness. -Poor Ric

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-01 Thread Bob Bridges
ID, and then perform tasks on the mainframe using that ID, how does RACF-or-whatever determine permissions? The OS asks whether has access to datasets or other resources - and that question allows 8 bytes for . Even if I've logged on from some other OS using a longer ID, inside z/OS the system i

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-04-30 Thread Bob Bridges
The past, yes, obviously. Also obviously: Not so very dead. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking. -Geoge S Patton */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-04-30 Thread Bob Bridges
MQ, TSO, CICS, IMS - whatever the environment, the ID has to be authenticated by RACF (or ACF2, or TSS). As far as I know they're all limited to the usual 39 characters, and a max length of eight. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If everyone is thinking alike,

Persuading SDSF to leave output in the output queue a while longer

2020-04-23 Thread Bob Bridges
in a PARMLIB member named ISF-something. I have one old SDSF manual, but I'm not convinced it's the one I need. 1) Can anyone tell me what parm I should look for that controls this, and in what member? 2) What manual should I consult to find out more about this? --- Bob Bridges, ro

Re: Here we go again;

2020-04-22 Thread Bob Bridges
ast it isn't merely presentation. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God "Thy will be done", and those to whom God says, in the end, "THY will be done". -from _The Great Divorce_ by C S L

Re: [External] Re: Here we go again;

2020-04-22 Thread Bob Bridges
rammers at some companies were either wasteful of it, either carelessly or ignorantly. Judging from my own experience, I think both are true. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I am pretty sure that, if you will be quite honest, you will admit that a good rousing sn

Re: Here we go again

2020-04-22 Thread Bob Bridges
ve this under control and will start work on it when they need to". I really did think that. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I am pretty sure that, if you will be quite honest, you will admit that a good rousing sneeze, one that tears open your collar and throws

Re: Here we go again

2020-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
se of the language it's written in...would it? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I am pretty sure that, if you will be quite honest, you will admit that a good rousing sneeze, one that tears open your collar and throws your hair into your eyes, is really one o

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: System Zzzzz | Computerworld Shark Tank

2020-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
ligent answer. I always ~thought~ I was awake, the first two times. But I wasn't really. Sometimes she had to start over only once. Usually twice. Never three times. Answering in my sleep? Not that I recall. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Sometimes you fe

Re: DFSORT? Rexx? Re: Print/copy one record of each type/subtype

2020-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
Wait, what? Since when? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Great good nature, without prudence, is a great misfortune. -Poor Richard */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent

Re: ACM Articles on Cobol and more

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
courses getting me thoroughly grounded in COBOL and JCL. There are some things I would probably never have learned without formal training. I think I'm often more cock-sure of myself than reality warrants; must avoid that. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* This

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
linguistic stories is about Captain Cook exploring Australia (that was Cook, right?), who upon first seeing a kangaroo from a distance asked "what's that?". And the local guide replied "kanga roo" - which means, in his language, "it's a roo". --- Bob Bridges, ro

Re: ACM Articles on Cobol and more

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
x27;t sound like a COBOL problem at all. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The more sophisticated the technology, the more vulnerable it is to primitive attack. People often overlook the obvious. -Dr Who, 1978 */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
eople become aware of it now in the light (so to speak) of COVID-19, that's all to the good, and if IBM can garner a little more credit for what they've been doing all along, so much the better. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* As a father, I have a vested intere

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
I don't know from bash - I can barely spell it - but despite the popularity of REXX among its adherents, including myself, it doesn't seem to ~me~ that "everyone knows REXX". Didn't I see IBM trying to find REXX programmers to work for them, a year or two ago?

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
Like talking about a VIN number or an ATM machine. It could be worse, though; I once heard someone refer (really!) to an "automatic ATM machine". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Another reason why creative individuals prefer to work at home, as oppo

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Bob Bridges
or self-referential joke. Finally gave in and clicked on the link. Yeah, that was it. (Not a quine: "Thit sentence contains exactly threee errors.") Delays, delays... --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The kingdom of Heaven is not for the well-meaning

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
ught, come to think of it. Wait, I remember - that wasn't me, it was some other guy. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat? */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
x27;s Japanese. And so on. In the same vein I once tried to count how many programming languages I've used at one time or another. For that purpose I cast the net pretty wide, and I'm pretty sure I included JCL. Hey, it's got "L" in the name, right? It even has an

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
He was just responding to your parenthesis, I assumed. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Q: Why is there no such organization as Chocoholics Anonymous? A: Because no one wants to quit. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN

Re: How to change the default '.java' extension to '.jav'?

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
, but I'd have to remember how. Anyway, since I'm pretty sure the solution is in Windows, you'll probably want to move the question to a different forum, though someone here may know. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Children need love, especially whe

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
obligated to say so. (Once I learned that "comprise" is does not mean "compose", you see, I have to point it out wherever possible.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman to hear him, is he still

Re: Bringing up skills learned on z/OS Hercules in interview?

2020-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
nd submit JCL, create PDSs and GDGs etc - in other words, that Hercules emulates MVS. But if it doesn't emulate the mainframe operating system, what ~does~ it do? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* When a man is getting better he understands more and more clearly

About the "hello world" program

2020-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
thing I write when tackling a new language; when I can get my first program to display "Hi, there!", I know I'm on the right track. I never sneer at that particular first step, however trivial it seems later. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Another

About the leap second and coding

2020-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
fection-of-humans-global-clock/384355/ --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery. -from _Calvin & Hobbes_ */ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: Bringing up skills learned on z/OS Hercules in interview?

2020-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
e'll never be a consensus on it). Is there any ~legal~ basis for the assertion? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -Daniel Webster */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainf

Re: regarding the 'shortage of mainframe talent'

2020-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
ted interview when I registered for social-security last year; my SSA interviewer repeatedly had to consult with a coworker to figure out how to handle me. She got it figured out in the end (I suppose). If you want to talk more about that, feel free to contact me off-line, for what my ignorance is wor

Re: FW: COBOL NJ

2020-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
(Regarding that tagline:) YES!! "Science" is only superficially an activity, and even more superficially a job; much more important it's a philosophy, a way of approaching the discovery of knowledge. By that definition some scientists aren't, and some non-scientists a

Re: Some COBOL Links

2020-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
Am I being unnecessarily cynical to wonder about the risk of taking on new COBOL programmers who "volunteer" to help the state remediate applications that hand out money? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Law #36 of combat operations: Radar tends to fai

Re: regarding the 'shortage of mainframe talent'

2020-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
may already know how much depends on ~timing~. Ageism? I'm willing to believe it's real, but I haven't noticed it. But then I'm only 65. Maybe in another ten years. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A delay is better than a disaster. -Found tape

Re: Why rip out COBOL when you can modernize key applications? - Weirdware

2020-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
x27;t know why it's so difficult for me. I assume it's not everyone who has that problem. But sometimes nothing but recursion will do. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Dad and Mom can share the driving chores, as follows: Dad will start out at the wheel, the

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
about the same time I had to begin using it for more than just one-line queries. The trick, I finally concluded, is to ~start~ with the FROM clause. Design that first, and maybe GROUP BY next, and everything else seems easy enough after that.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm not familiar with Prolog, but if it doesn't (in John's words) do Input, Process or Output I can see it wouldn't have much in common with COBOL. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The conviction of the rich that the poor are happier is no m

Re: COBOL help for NJ

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
ed the two sources and wrote what we saw before going back to his Real Job. Maybe I'm doing him an injustice. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* There are two rules for ultimate success in life: 1) Never tell everything you know. -Randy Keck */ -Original Me

Re: Why rip out COBOL when you can modernize key applications? - Weirdware

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
ot; manner: This paragraph accomplish a certain task by executing paragraphs one through three, then two more, and this subparagraph executes subsubparagraphs, and so on. Forms good habits, I think. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* My life is in the hands of any fool wh

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
o any CICS development. Didn't plan it that way, just never ended up on a CICS project. But I think that's unusual; I certainly don't mean it as a contradiction to Kirk's general point, with which I completely agree. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

Re: COBOL help for NJ

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
ally need COBOL programmers,” Murphy said of the outdated computer language. I'm thinking the headline writer got a little carried away. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Another reason why creative individuals prefer to work at home, as opposed to an office, is that when

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Bridges
ll.) But it makes a lot less difference to me now than it did fifty years ago; I know that once I've become familiar with a language, it'll seem pretty natural. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* By afflictions, God is spoiling us of what otherwise might have s

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Bridges
M-not-so-humble-O it simply isn't. It is a very handy 3GL, but that's all.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Now some of you are scratching your heads and wondering "How does a person with an IQ higher than pastry get Super Glue in his ear and not k

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-05 Thread Bob Bridges
. "But I'm curious: Why is everybody so interested in me?" "Well," said the Prime Minister. "The year 10 000 is just around the corner, and it says in your files you know COBOL..." --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Doubt is not a pleas

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-05 Thread Bob Bridges
er teacher, God bless him! By the way, Steve, I enjoyed your tagline :). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Beware of any Christian leader who does not walk with a limp. -Bob Mumford */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailt

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-05 Thread Bob Bridges
eans a "dead language", in any practical sense, but apparently the writer got it right that it isn't being taught in schools. Dunno about 55 to 85 $/hr, though, unless things have gotten a lot worse since I got into the security side. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336

Re: Edit macros vs TSO (was PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution)

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
What DSN? Not sure what question you're asking here. Or did I cull too much of the conversation? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* This may not be the last time that I mention this, but this is not much fun. -from the early 2001 log of Cam Lewis, captain of

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
tines just freeze up...is it? By the way, what ~is~ SVC 99? Some kind of assembler call, I suppose? I've written in assemblers, but haven't yet learned HLASM. One of my many ambitions; still trying to get around to it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-73

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
hat this is truly ugly. It just works. Actually I haven't looked at it in some years; now that I do, I notice a bug in it, one I've never triggered so it never came to my attention before. I'll have to fix it; maybe I can improve the ugliness at the same time. What's a

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
ws me to create a CA-CLEANUP listing via a foreground command, or a TSSSIM analysis, without having to set up the JCL for it. But aside from a DYL-280II syntax check, decades ago now, I don't recall any user asking me to do it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* T

Edit macros vs TSO (was PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution)

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
address ISPEXEC 'CONTROL ERRORS CANCEL' if fmac then address ISREDIT else arg args "Too often you find yourself coding..." repetitive stuff? Gil

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
if fbat then 'look for a DD else 'use a predetermined DSN Hm, no one ever told me choosing a random DD name is passé. I have a TEMPDD routine that returns a DD name guaranteed to be unused; otherwise many of my routines would end up conflicting whenever I use them recursively (sort of)

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
who have to maintain batch JCL, and can still be run in the foreground as a command without a special wrapper as it was before it was added to the production schedule. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Back in the old days, most families were close-knit. Grown children a

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
I followed your link. I never knew what a "church key" was, before; I've used them, of course (I'm 65) but never connected the object with that term. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* "Consider how much more you often suffer from your an

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
would have to be an optional addition, not a replacement. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If "compassionate conservative" is an oxymoron, then so is "liberal values". -John Aul (j...@symon.com), quoted in A Word A Day */ -Original Message-

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
I did avoid it, but I did it by putting the SORT step in a separate job. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Now the best relation to our spiritual home is to be near enough to love it. But the next best is to be far enough away not to hate it While the best judge

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
t the same shocked look when I carelessly say someone has "shot his wad". Sigh. No one ~reads~ anymore. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. -Thomas Edison */ -Or

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
nstallation - on a client's machine? (I dunno why you say "unlike VBScript"; isn't it available on every Windows machine?) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* In most states you can get a driver's license when you're 16 years old, which made a l

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
Widely available on the mainframe? Could I write something for TSO in it, for example, and expect it to run on any of my clients' machines? I ask with real interest. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you're not failing when you train or test your securi

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
xpecting a raft of nominations, but please note I said "interpreter" and "widely available". I'd define VBScript as "widely available" on the PC, not because everyone uses it but because it'll run on any Windows machine - no special installation requir

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
Sure, they would. But when ~I~ say it, it's true. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* One of the quickest ways I've found to look foolish is to state positively what God will not do. -Bob Bridges */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discu

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
as to read a largish-security database. The last step is a SORT that takes less than a second - but I had to put it in a separate job, and have it triggered by the previous job, because otherwise the dataset would be unavailable for Viewing by any user while the long job was running. --- B

GOTOs (was CLIST)

2020-03-24 Thread Bob Bridges
quot;, but I can do this: Do 'one time If v0 = '' Then Exit Do v1 = function1(v0) If v1 < 5 Then Exit Do v2 = functionv2(v1 + othervalue) If v2 = previous Then Exit Do MsgBox "TRK: " & v0 & " " & v1 & " &quo

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
x27;ve encountered most recently. I haven't used TSO Edit in ... well, must be the early '80s at the latest, maybe the late '70s. So what am I missing? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* In religion, as in war and everything else, comfort is the one th

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
27;?','Unrecognized arg' arg; end; end if acid='' then call abend 'No ACID!',"You're supposed to supply an ACID", 'for me to work with.' Of course, importance is in the eye of the beholder. But I gave only honorable mention to CLIST'

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
I'd be interested in hearing a quick review, Steve, once you've tried it out and have an opinion. I don't know how serious I am about it, but it sounds convenient. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* That sort of wit which employs itself insolently in

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
tement; I call it partly as a calculator - ==> tso ev 15*75 ...and partly as a quick check on the results of a function call: ==> tso ev node=mvsvar(sysname) ==> tso ev myfunction('XYZ') But that's about it.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
is that the From DD has to be named before the To DD; everything else the operator can type in as it happens to occur to him. This makes my REXX execs a little messy up front, but gives me flexibility that I value. And anyway I'm used to it now. Easily worth the extra trouble to get ac

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
mproved before I got around to it, but I'm thinking about it again now. How did it work for you? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The creditors are a superstitious sect, great observers of set days and times. -Poor Richard */ -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
it for business and personal. (Besides, I'm totally unwilling to carry around two cell phones.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* When their love was strong they could sleep on the edge of a sword, but now when they have forgotten, a bed sixty feet across is n

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-22 Thread Bob Bridges
gger and better.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Give a man fire and he's warm for a day; set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. -found on the web */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.

Re: Does anybody remember CLIST?

2020-03-19 Thread Bob Bridges
, I would correct John's translation this way: varnx=value(varn||glcv) if varnx=symbol then do varfnd=1 varvx=value(varv||glcv) symbol=varvx end Like Mr McKown, I think this is right but I haven't tested the code to be sure. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.

Re: OT: Mandatory Work From Home at my company

2020-03-19 Thread Bob Bridges
ines, power etc, and maintenance of same including evening cleanup. I've never managed an office but I gather it adds up to an amount that can be surprising to a worker bee like me to tends not to notice his surroundings. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Give a

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: Documentation just takes up too much space | Computerworld

2020-03-17 Thread Bob Bridges
're talking!, I said, and went off to our print shop to figure out what it would take. Turns out their half-price offer was about what I'd have to spend to do the printing ourselves. The lesson I came away with: Printing is expensive. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 38

Re: Scripting REXX thought -- inspiration or insanity?

2020-03-16 Thread Bob Bridges
Gil, you're probably going to say "yeah, that's not what I meant", but it sort of does. I mean, that's what the queued() function call will tell you, no? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The worst thing about new books is that they keep us f

Re: Scripting REXX thought -- inspiration or insanity?

2020-03-16 Thread Bob Bridges
should be. Sigh. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* When their love was strong they could sleep on the edge of a sword, but now when they have forgotten, a bed sixty feet across is not sufficient. -Rab Akiva, quoted in _The Source_ by James Michener */ -Origin

Re: Mainframe growth for the next decade!

2020-03-16 Thread Bob Bridges
rs me a little. Could this attitude be more widespread than I want to believe? Meanwhile, recruiters tell me that mainframers are ever more difficult to find and our value keeps rising accordingly. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* When their love was strong they could sle

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2020-03-11 Thread Bob Bridges
maybe I'd have to show my face. Maybe employers would prefer to know you have a track record before they trust you to do much out of sight. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Winning isn't everything, but then losing is nothing. */ -Original Message-

Re: OT - Mainframe Development

2020-03-11 Thread Bob Bridges
for other positions. If you want, I'll forward a few of them to you; you can, if you like, use that as contact information to the recruiters who have such jobs to offer. (But I promise you that almost every IT recruiter has mainframe jobs to offer.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com,

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2020-03-08 Thread Bob Bridges
n adults who probably had ADD when they were kids, before ADD was a thing. I missed it, but for months after that friends and family members exclaimed to me "Did you see that 60-Minutes episode? They had a picture of Bob Bridges on that show!". I gather people who had ADD before it

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2020-03-06 Thread Bob Bridges
willing to have me work on their mainframe security from home. Ten years ago I noticed they were doing it with systems programmers, too. Nowadays I see the occasional req for remote managers. I suppose there are some jobs that simply cannot be done from home, forever, but fewer than before

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-29 Thread Bob Bridges
That's a new one on me. How did tapping instead of dialing save you the fourpence? I'd have thought that whatever allowed the call to go through a) didn't know the difference between tapping and dialing, and b) wouldn't go without being paid. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
#x27;t tried it. Backward compatibility still reigns, doesn't it? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A lie goes half way round the world before the truth can get its pants on. -- Winston Churchill */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [m

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
Is it, really? I'm usually a good speller, but I guess I've been doing that one wrong since I first read "The Hobbit". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It's far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help.

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
ur writing to emulate the lead of the NYT and People magazine. Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the only rule, though.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Perhaps the most valuable result of all education is the ability to make yourself to do the th

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
Baby-boomer, I presume he means. Born during the '50s, mostly. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Westheimer's Discovery: A couple of months in the laboratory can save a couple of hours in the library. -Frank H Westheimer, chemistry profes

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
requires more than just one PARSE statement to work properly, and I never thought to take parens into account. But the general principles it requires might apply to your problem too. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I hold it, that a little rebellion now and then i

Re: New Rexx Question

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
ave if subconfition2 then leave v1=calculation(a,b) v2=calculation(c,d) if \(v15) then leave /* process your logic */ end I think this is simpler to look at. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* God's never been disappointed in me, because he never ha

Re: New Rexx Question

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
handy to prevent long indented If blocks; multiple ITERATES are much easier to debug. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Three people may keep a secret, if two of them are dead. -Poor Richard */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
htly in the minority. I'd never heard that it's a mark of old folks, just that some people hate it and some insist on it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 John: Well, you would not assure me that it was anything real. Reason: Nor that it was not. John: But I

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
SharePoint programming... Currently I'm picking up some rudimentary PowerShell. It's a ~big~ world out there, and so far I'm still having fun. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you don't like my bumper stickers, vote liberal and have them outlawed!

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
;, '9' and ''. The second part is parsed by '.', which is "12 word3.ext". Weird, but at least the universe makes sense again. The trick, I guess, is to remember to class parsing operations according to precedence, just as we do with arithmetic and Bool

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
rd3" >.> "ext" Surely this is what Thomas expected. I can't imagine what would legitimately cause REXX to behave in any other way - and I don't understand why anyone would expect anything different. Now I'm going to go read that link someone posted that

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