Re: Allocation in CYLinder increments (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-09-05 Thread DASDBILL2
True for some value of basically, but not true always.  Keyed searches cannot be executed in ECKD mode, so a PDS directory, VTOC, or keyed BDAM or BSAM file  that has lots of keyed searches done against it should be allocated on a cylinder boundary for a small improvement in elapsed time of the

Re: Recovery routines

2014-08-27 Thread DASDBILL2
To Rob Scott's (as usual) wise response, I will add this:  Is your ESTAE(X) routine even getting control?  Put a WTO at the very beginning of your recovery routine to tell you that your routine got control.  And beware that WTO may alter some registers that your recovery routine may need, such

Re: Recovery routines

2014-08-27 Thread DASDBILL2
and its in that prog that I get a S0C4  Its all under the same TCB/RB so I should have coverage I'll read up on parallel TMP in a bit thanks     -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of DASDBILL2 Sent: Wednesday, August

Re: Extents more than One for load modules library

2014-08-14 Thread DASDBILL2
It is my cold and fuzzy recollection that 6144 was in vogue for a few years when that value was deemed to be VERY good on a 3340 DASD and not too shabby [1] for most other flavors. Bill Fairchild   [1] Or, more precisely, okay or swell. - Original Message - From: Elardus

Re: Is there a CPU cost to using key9 storage while running with key8

2014-08-13 Thread DASDBILL2
How much is slightly more?  Ten to the minus 2 power of one percent?  Ten to the minus 5 power of one percent?  Perhaps you could display the raw numbers before and after. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com To:

Re: Extents more than One for load modules library

2014-08-12 Thread DASDBILL2
Notional means theoretical, speculative, imaginary, conceptual.   A few years ago 56664 bytes for the maximum usable block size of a single stored data block of a 3390 geometry SLED was notional because there were really several thousand more bytes on each real track for hardware and software

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread DASDBILL2
It is possible to have two or more address spaces with the same jobname.  Does your code handle that possibility?   Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: CP Vernooij (SPLXM) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:30:47 AM

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread DASDBILL2
I forgot to add running in the same system (image, LPAR, instance of z/OS). - Original Message - From: Fairchild, Bill dasdbi...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 8:21:46 AM Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX It is

Re: Beginners question about SHARE

2014-07-31 Thread DASDBILL2
SHARE is all about networking, which is what old boys' clubs do.  I went to my first SHARE in 1967 and was welcomed as a newbie.  That was how I became a brand new member of the old boys' club.  I don't ever remember any older attendees' having an exclusivist attitude towards new attendees.  I

Re: regd: to make DASD volumes Active

2014-07-23 Thread DASDBILL2
The lack of an A does not automatically mean that anything is bad. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Linda linda.lst...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:15:46 PM Subject: Re: regd: to make DASD volumes Active If you browse or edit

Re: Beginners question about SHARE

2014-07-23 Thread DASDBILL2
It has been my experience that many of the questions he asked in his OP are answered on the SHARE website. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 2:41:16 PM Subject: Re: Beginners

Re: IBM to sell Apples

2014-07-17 Thread DASDBILL2
- From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 4:56:37 PM Subject: Re: IBM to sell Apples On Jul 16, 2014, at 12:14 PM, DASDBILL2 wrote: Been reading Cringley's book lately on the Rise and Fall of IBM. When I saw the subject line

Re: IBM to sell Apples

2014-07-16 Thread DASDBILL2
Been reading Cringley's book lately on the Rise and Fall of IBM. When I saw the subject line before opening this post, my first mental image was that of all of IBM's top executives selling edible apples on the sidewalk to passersby for 5 cents apiece. Bill Fairchild - Original Message

Re: Secret Machine Instruction?

2014-07-16 Thread DASDBILL2
There are quite a few secret instructions, meaning what they do and how they do it is not published in any generally available document.  But if you have a real need to know, and can make a strong business case for how beneficial it will be to IBM to sell you the doc for that one instruction,

Re: Secret Machine Instruction?

2014-07-16 Thread DASDBILL2
The op code has two halves which are not contiguous.  The first half is the E3.  The second half is the 17 in the right-most byte.  It's called Load Logical Thirty-One Bits.  It's not secret. Bill Fairchld - Original Message - From: Alan Field alan_c_fi...@bluecrossmn.com To:

Re: Questions on SNAP/SNAPX usage

2014-07-14 Thread DASDBILL2
I once wrote a program with many subroutines that all used the same DCB to print out debugging messages.  I wrapped each PUT inside an exclusive ENQ and a DEQ for some arbitrary resource name so that the characters being printed on each line would not be shuffled with the previous or overlaid

Re: Freebie software

2014-07-08 Thread DASDBILL2
, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net wrote: The loss of time is never free. I couldn't agree more. If it costs $100,000 a year to employ a mainframe developer (salary, benefits, premises, etc.), then for every 100 developers a company employs it costs a staggering 10 million dollars a year

international cuisine; was Re: OT: Re: Freebie software; was Feebie software

2014-07-08 Thread DASDBILL2
Biltong is interesting, monkey gland is way too bland.  I prefer Peri-peri on mine, thanks.  Maximum strength, of course. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:48:56 AM Subject: OT:  

Re: Feebie software

2014-07-07 Thread DASDBILL2
The loss of time is never free. Bill Fairchild, Senior Software Engineer ASG Software Solutions Naples, FL - Original Message - From: Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:37:34 AM Subject: Feebie software On Fri, 4 Jul

Freebie software; was Feebie software

2014-07-07 Thread DASDBILL2
Let's start correcting our subject typos now. Bill Fairchild   - Original Message - From: David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 10:42:02 AM Subject: Re: Feebie software On 4/07/2014 11:37 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Fri, 4

Re: SVC 99 APF Authorized Library

2014-07-07 Thread DASDBILL2
If his code is running in key 0, then he can also set the appropriate bit in the DEB and thus avoid the S306 ABEND.  Or at least get past the S306 ABEND and advance through system code until the next type of ABEND is uncovered. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: John McKown

Re: Feebie software

2014-07-07 Thread DASDBILL2
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 10:56:47 AM Subject: Re: Feebie software On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:35 AM, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net wrote: The loss of time is never free. Here, it depends. If you mean loss of CPU time, very true. If you mean loss of programmer, et al

Re: Local Time conversion to/from UTC Time

2014-06-29 Thread DASDBILL2
time-zone UTC offsets are not in general integers.  The Australian Cocos Islands Time Zone is UTC+6.30.   Most places are an integral number of hours + or - from Greenwhich.   There are a few that are a half hour off from an integral number of hours difference.  And at last one whole country,

Re: Mainframe on NCIS

2014-06-22 Thread DASDBILL2
There's nothing like high-tech as perceived by the masses.  I remember when high-tech card sorters were used at carnival sideshows by fortune tellers and weight guessers. Bill Fairchild Senior Software Engineer ASG Software Solutions Naples, FL - Original Message - From: Merrill,

Re: Stand-alone Restore was Re: Dataset in Two master catalog

2014-06-17 Thread DASDBILL2
And test your S-A IPL and your Disaster Recovery plan every so often. Bill Fairchild, Senior Software Engineer ASG Software Solutions 1333 Third Avenue South Naples, FL 34102-6400 USA - Original Message - From: Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: LISTA data in a SVC dump

2014-06-16 Thread DASDBILL2
Please first tell us how much time you spent using the HELP command in IPCS.  Then re-read the posts last week about doing your homework and the best way to ask for help. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Humor: Translating what programmers say to what they mean

2014-06-12 Thread DASDBILL2
Perhaps today would be a good day to die.  I say we SHIP IT!  [Klingon developer] - Original Message - From: Scott Ford 0006f84450fa-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:57:00 AM Subject: Re: Humor: Translating what

Re: Destination z article: Artifacts -- Holding on to History

2014-06-05 Thread DASDBILL2
Holy horrors, Batman!  You omitted Barry Merrill's very hefty white lab coat, covered outside and in with buttons. Bill Fairchild Nolensville, TN - Original Message - From: Gabe Goldberg g...@gabegold.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 8:13:51 AM

Re: Costs of core

2014-06-02 Thread DASDBILL2
And your current desktop PC's operating system and all its application software are extremely reliable and robust with 20 percent of all code developed to keep the other 80 percent running forever, it can handle thousands of transactions per second, and not have to be unexpectedly rebooted for

real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread DASDBILL2
I know it has been decades since IBM manufactured its last real CKD controller, but what was the exact date when the last new one was shipped? Just curious. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, June

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread DASDBILL2
Sent: Monday, June 2, 2014 9:55:46 AM Subject: Re: real vs. emulated CKD dasdbi...@comcast.net (DASDBILL2) writes: I know it has been decades since IBM manufactured its last real CKD controller, but what was the exact date when the last new one was shipped? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn

Re: real vs. emulated CKD

2014-06-02 Thread DASDBILL2
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of DASDBILL2 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: real vs. emulated CKD I will rephrase my question.  When did any vendor last ship a 3390 DASD to anyone

Re: LOAD DE= generates the CSV019I abend

2014-05-30 Thread DASDBILL2
I'll add my two cents to this email from Walt Farrell and the one earlier this week from Peter Relson. Another possible approach to resolving this and many similarly elementary debugging situations you have had in the past, rather than query the aged IBM-MAIN experts daily, is to discover

Re: copy data issue

2014-05-21 Thread DASDBILL2
They are in use.  Shut down the application using them. Or else add the data sets with copy errors to your list of data sets to be excluded from the volume level copy. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent:

Re: Sorry state of IT education?

2014-04-22 Thread DASDBILL2
The spelling errors are rapidly increasing in the headlines at the bottom of the screen on TV news programs.  The obvious errors made by TV news anchors  when trying to read what to say from a monitor a few feet away are also rapidly increasing.  The obviousness with which TV interviewers and

Re: Sorry state of IT education?

2014-04-22 Thread DASDBILL2
At least we still have decent technical publications from some vendors.  Here's an example of what we might expect in 10 more years of dumbing down: The displacement for LA is, like, treated as, ya know, a 12-bit unsigned like binary integer. The, ya know, displacement for LAY is like

Re: Extended Addressibility (was: ZFS - Allocation Failure)

2014-04-18 Thread DASDBILL2
nf.ibmm...@web.de To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:24:58 PM Subject: Re: Extended Addressibility (was: ZFS - Allocation Failure) On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 17:38:12 +, DASDBILL2 wrote: Extended Addressability refers to an attribute of a data set that allows the data

Re: SORT ando MEMLIMIT best practice

2014-04-18 Thread DASDBILL2
Once the I/O is complete and the buffer has been marked as no longer page-fixed while the I/O is active, that I/O buffer will not experience significant paging if it is being accessed frequently.  That's how I/O buffers have always behaved since virtual memory operating systems with paging

Re: SORT ando MEMLIMIT best practice

2014-04-18 Thread DASDBILL2
:07:29 PM Subject: Re: SORT ando MEMLIMIT best practice On Fri, 18 Apr 2014 17:54:01 +, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net wrote: ...  Giving a gazillion bytes above the bar to process X does not necessarily mean that process X will ruin system performance.  The gazillion bytes could also

Re: Extended Addressibility (was: ZFS - Allocation Failure)

2014-04-17 Thread DASDBILL2
Extended Addressability refers to an attribute of a data set that allows the data set to contain more then 4GB of data. Extended Format refers to each DASD block's having some extra bytes, called a suffix, added to the end of each data block, and this can happen with data sets that contain

Re: EREP: was: Dumps when starting Started Tasks

2014-04-16 Thread DASDBILL2
See the ESTAE, ESTAEX, and SETRP macros in the System Services books for more info, but here is the operative part:   If you specify RECORD=YES, the system records the entire SDWA (including the fixed length base, the variable length recording area, and the recordable extensions) in

Re: Diagnosing QSAM CLOSE RC4

2014-04-14 Thread DASDBILL2
Possibly the ADRDSSU or some other authorized program is OPENing a DCB, modifying its DEB, then when finished with that DCB it CLOSEs the DCB without having previously restored the DEB's contents that it altered, so that CLOSE cannot find the same DEB with the same contents that it uses for all

Re: NSA and Heartbleed

2014-04-14 Thread DASDBILL2
How the NSA shot itself in the foot by denying prior knowledge of Heartbleed vulnerability http://www.zdnet.com/institutional-failure-led-to-nsa-missing-the-heartbleed-flaw-728366   If the NSA, CIA, IRS, DEA, BATFE, FBI, DOD, DOJ, BLM, US Presidents, CEOs of major corporations, etc.,

Re: NSA and Heartbleed

2014-04-14 Thread DASDBILL2
Message - From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 9:01:40 AM Subject: Re: NSA and Heartbleed Bill Fairchild (DASDBILL2) wrote: If the NSA, CIA, IRS, DEA, BATFE, FBI, DOD, DOJ, BLM, US Presidents, CEOs of major

Re: NSA foils much internet encryption

2014-04-11 Thread DASDBILL2
Of course they didn't use the Heartbleed bug for at least the last two years.  How do I know?  Because the NSA said they weren't even aware of it, so how could they possibly have used it? “NSA was not aware of the recently identified vulnerability in OpenSSL, the so-called Heartbleed

Re: S0C4 abend on old assembler program when upgrading to z/OS 1.13

2014-04-09 Thread DASDBILL2
What is supposed to be at the 4 bytes beginning at the virtual storage address  that is X'C12' bytes greater than the contents of R12?  The other half of the CLC instruction seems normal, but the  L instruction just before it looks suspicious.  Your code is loading the full word at address

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-24 Thread DASDBILL2
When the MVS RAS group originally tracked me down and called me up ... I thought they were going to ask me for help on correcting all the problems ... but the first thing they wanted to know was who my management chain was ... I then realized I was going to be in trouble ... they didn't

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread DASDBILL2
I was toying with the idea of giving him a Shmuel-type answer: either this:  Yes. or this:  SVC 99   - Original Message - From: Mike La Martina mike.lamart...@mcleansoft.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:59:04 AM Subject: Re: Dynamic Allocation

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-18 Thread DASDBILL2
Message   From: DASDBILL2 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 15:09 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems Close.  OS/VS2 was released having been already pre-morphed into SVS and MVS.  SVS was first called OS/VS2

Re: IBM says it has not given client data to the U.S. government

2014-03-17 Thread DASDBILL2
How did IBM's lawyers define give, client, data, and government? Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:21:20 AM Subject: IBM says it has not given client data to the U.S. government

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-17 Thread DASDBILL2
Close.  OS/VS2 was released having been already pre-morphed into SVS and MVS.  SVS was first called OS/VS2 Release 1, was first available in 1974, and that's when I worked with it.  MVS was first called OS/VS2 Release 2, was first available slightly later (1975, I think), but I didn't begin

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-17 Thread DASDBILL2
, March 17, 2014 3:34:37 PM Subject: Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems VM was around in 1967. Iirc. - -teD -   Original Message   From: DASDBILL2 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 15:09 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Difference

Re: Missed Alarms and 40 Million Stolen Credit Card Numbers: How Target Blew It

2014-03-13 Thread DASDBILL2
My desktop took less than one second to jump  from page to page of the five-page article, even with all the irrelevant garbage around the edges. Everyone's mileage varies.   Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: John Chase jch...@ussco.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent:

Re: all this crap from Umberto Silvestri

2014-03-11 Thread DASDBILL2
I hope that Darren has not been prepared for DELETION (FROZEN). Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:49:42 PM Subject: Re: all this crap from  Umberto Silvestri Where is Darren in

Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-10 Thread DASDBILL2
Many non-military people are also familiar with the 24-hour clock, such as my wife, who was in nursing for 40 years.  American medical people are all fluent in 24-hour TODs. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent:

Re: Disabled wait

2014-02-28 Thread DASDBILL2
While you are RTFMing, you might also try RTFH (where H stands for help info when inside IPCS). Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 7:33:40 AM Subject: Re: Disabled wait Took a

Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run from a PDSE

2014-02-24 Thread DASDBILL2
Excellent forensics.  And thanks for the detailed explanation. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: John Chase jch...@ussco.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:02:54 AM Subject: Re: S0C2 in DB2 application program (was Stored Procedure) IFF run

Re: IBM assembler copybook

2014-02-24 Thread DASDBILL2
Your guess is correct.  Copybook is the way most Assembler programmers for DOS/360 or VSE systems pronounce DSECT. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 7:53:29 AM

Re: Optimization, CPU time, and related issues

2014-02-23 Thread DASDBILL2
Just for future reference, since the name of this list-server is IBM Mainframe Discussion List, what particular IBM systems, other than System/360 and its descendants, are also called mainframe systems? Bill Fairchild Nolensville, TN - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour

Re: assembler

2014-02-19 Thread DASDBILL2
Since virtual storage is now so much less expensive and so much more available than storage [1] was 50 years ago, why not be really extravagant and use one whole byte per store?  If the byte contains 0, then the store number is not valid, or something like that, and if the byte contains

Re: assembler

2014-02-19 Thread DASDBILL2
From: John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:20:20 AM Subject: Re: assembler   They have done some, such as with Find LeftMost One and Population Count (could somebody explain to me what this might really be used for?).  

Re: assembler

2014-02-19 Thread DASDBILL2
: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:41:25 AM Subject: Re: assembler On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:51:33 +, DASDBILL2 wrote: Since virtual storage is now so much less expensive and so much more available than storage [1] was 50

Re: assembler

2014-02-19 Thread DASDBILL2
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:51:08 AM Subject: Re: assembler dasdbi...@comcast.net (DASDBILL2) writes: Since virtual storage is now so much less expensive and so much more available than storage [1] was 50 years ago, why not be really extravagant and use one whole byte per

Re: IS the DCB represented by TCBJLB valid for FIND

2014-02-17 Thread DASDBILL2
Yes. And also it depends. Bill Fairchild Nolensville, TN - Original Message - From: Gerhard Postpischil gerha...@charter.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 9:50:48 AM Subject: Re: IS the DCB represented by TCBJLB valid for FIND On 2/17/2014 8:23

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-13 Thread DASDBILL2
In a theoretical computer science class, one could debate the validity of requesting 0 bytes of storage or of successfully acquiring 0 bytes of storage.  In the real world, such an event should be an error, but this quirk is not going to be changed by IBM because of incompatibility issues.  So

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-13 Thread DASDBILL2
If you are allocating such a data set with disposition=new, the request will fail if there is not at least one available (Format 0) DSCB in the VTOC which z/OS can change into a Format 1 DSCB in which to save all the information about your new data set that occupies no real space.  At least the

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-13 Thread DASDBILL2
. From:   DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net To:     IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date:   02/13/2014 07:11 AM Subject:        Re: Storage Obtain . Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU If you are allocating such a data set with disposition=new, the request

Re: Storage Obtain .....

2014-02-12 Thread DASDBILL2
My LTR after the STORAGE OBTAIN does not catch a failure. Your LTR after the STORAGE OBTAIN is not in the code you posted.   Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:50:53 PM

Re: Was: Implicit VVDS creation now: FDR VVDS's

2014-02-12 Thread DASDBILL2
FDR used to be only one product, now it is a family of products.  The name of the company, however, is Innovation Data Processing in Little Falls, New Jersey. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-11 Thread DASDBILL2
DMS and another large DASD management product suite called SAMS were marketed by Sterling for many years before CA acquired Sterling in ca. 1999. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-10 Thread DASDBILL2
If it was called FastDASD, then it was either Software Corp. of America's or CA's (which bought SCA in late 1985). Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:27:44 PM Subject: Re: Implicit

Re: DCB for load library

2014-02-06 Thread DASDBILL2
A sequential file can contain load modules (IEBCOPY dump to tape, e.g.). OP did not specify that the load modules were directly usable as load modules. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Number of entries in the TIOT

2014-02-06 Thread DASDBILL2
I have written oodles of code that scan TIOTs, which almost always ran in key eight, and I never got a S0C4 in that code, so I cannot believe that the TIOT is allocated in key one storage.  I would believe key zero. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Greg Price

Re: Number of entries in the TIOT

2014-02-06 Thread DASDBILL2
6, 2014 at 8:33 AM, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net wrote: I have written oodles of code that scan TIOTs, which almost always ran in key eight, and I never got a S0C4 in that code, so I cannot believe that the TIOT is allocated in key one storage.  I would believe key zero. Bill

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-06 Thread DASDBILL2
The theoretical worst case for a TSO pack is that every track on the volume could be a single-track data set, except for the following:  volume label track, VTOC, VTOC index, and VVDS.  And each such single-track data set would need at least one DSCB (Format 1) record in the VTOC, and you can

Re: Number of entries in the TIOT

2014-02-05 Thread DASDBILL2
There is also much ado about the TIOT in the  IBM-MAIN archives (q.v.); namely, the maximum size, below or above the line, how to tell when you come to its end, etc. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Barry Merrill ba...@mxg.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday,

Re: CPU time

2014-02-03 Thread DASDBILL2
How can it? Unless it's the highest priority. Using the operating system source code [1], figure out which is the highest priority code in the whole system.  Then insert a very small amount of code in it [2].   And, shades of Heisenberg, what about itself? Only a very small amount of code

Re: PofOp -- 37MB??!

2014-01-24 Thread DASDBILL2
The first version of the 64-bit architecture PoPs that I saw 13 years ago had just about 1K pages in it and described just about 1K instructions.  I thought that was an interesting unintended consequence. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Phil Smith p...@voltage.com To:

Re: IBM sells x86 server business to Lenovo (was Levono)

2014-01-24 Thread DASDBILL2
IBM's core business is making profits for their stockholders.  All else is details of implementation. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:26:28 PM Subject: Re: IBM sells x86 server

Re: IBM sells x86 server business to Lenovo (was Levono)

2014-01-24 Thread DASDBILL2
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 12:38:18 PM Subject: Re: IBM sells x86 server business to Lenovo (was Levono) dasdbi...@comcast.net (DASDBILL2) writes: IBM's core business is making profits for their stockholders.  All else is details of implementation. IBM's core business

Re: rentrant Open

2014-01-23 Thread DASDBILL2
Seymour's statement is correct, but slightly misleading. The problem is not that the DCB and OPEN parameter list are in your CSECT.  The problem is that your DCB and OPEN parameter list are in virtual storage above the 24-bit address line, and this is because your CSECT is in storage above the

Re: Dataspace versus common area above the bar

2014-01-21 Thread DASDBILL2
One other consideration is that a data space is limited to a size of 2GB, but virtual storage above the bar can be MUCH, MUCH larger.   Bill Fairchild Nolensville, TN - Original Message - From: John Blythe Reid johnblyther...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday,

Re: Dataspace versus common area above the bar

2014-01-21 Thread DASDBILL2
More on flexibility: Storage above the bar can be set to specific storage keys when being acquired, and can use page table entries that map 1MB per entry rather than 4KB per entry.   Bill Fairchild Nolensville, TN - Original Message - From: Kenneth Wilkerson

Re: OT: Humor? Stupid questions from a job interviewer.

2014-01-21 Thread DASDBILL2
Speaking of job interviews, here's one possible reason why old guys do not do well in interviews:   Interviewer:  What would you say is your worst shortcoming? Old guy:  My honesty. Interviewer:  I don't think that honesty is necessarily a shortcoming. Old guy:  I really don't give a

Re: OT: Humor? Stupid questions from a job interviewer.

2014-01-21 Thread DASDBILL2
My bad.  I paraphrased something that I had seen a few weeks ago [1] but I had not yet read zMan's posting of the same joke before I posted it. Bill Fairchild   [1] And what I saw a few weeks ago might even have been a zMan post. - Original Message - From: DASDBILL2 dasdbi

Re: IBM to invest 1.2B into Cloud Data Centers

2014-01-21 Thread DASDBILL2
The world-class cynic H. L. Mencken once wrote The cynics are right nine times out of ten. . Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:41:05 PM Subject: Re: IBM to invest 1.2B into Cloud

Re: Is the oner of IBM-Main still with us?

2014-01-06 Thread DASDBILL2
Sometimes having too many onuses might make one ornery. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 10:17:03 AM Subject: Re: Is the oner of IBM-Main still with us? Here the onus probandi

Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube

2013-12-30 Thread DASDBILL2
In 1974, when that video was taped, a desk would fit on a computer.  :-) Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:26:12 AM Subject: Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) -

Re: Turing's belated pardon

2013-12-25 Thread DASDBILL2
From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 5:05:06 PM Subject: Re: Turing's belated pardon that the Turing pardon establishes that a sufficiently valuable individual should be above the law which applies to everyone else, is a silly

Re: APF authorization and JOBLIB DD card

2013-12-23 Thread DASDBILL2
I suspect that using the STEPLIB or JOBLIB mutually exclusively within one step was influenced heavily by the cost of core way back when the TCB and the initiator were being designed, maximum machine memory sizes were MUCH smaller than today, CPU cycle time was much longer, etc.  Many other

Early !BM multiprocessors (renamed from Curiosity: TCB mapping macro name - why IKJTCB?)

2013-12-22 Thread DASDBILL2
I seem to remember working with some S/360 Model 55 MPs at an FAA Air Route Traffic Control Center in 1978.  They must have had smaller maximum real memories and run slower than model 65MPs, but had the same RPQ extra instructions to enable multi-processing. Bill Fairchild - Original

Re: EXCP Counts in SMF Exit

2013-12-14 Thread DASDBILL2
The SMF EXCP counting code counts all EXCPs but not necessarily all I/O requests.  If your wayward job is using the STARTIO access method or the Media Manager to do its output I/O to tape, then its bazillions of I/O requests will never be accounted for in SMF data, but they will show up  in RMF

Re: EXCP Counts in SMF Exit

2013-12-14 Thread DASDBILL2
One way to know for sure what access method is being used is to get a GTF trace of at least one I/O request from your wayward job that you think should be counted.  Turn on the IOSB option in GTF.  You don't need to trace both SSCH and I/O interrupts; SSCH is probably enough.  Find one trace

Re: EXCP Counts in SMF Exit

2013-12-14 Thread DASDBILL2
is on the structure of the SMF record presented to the exit in this particular step. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From:   DASDBILL2 dasdbi

Re: VARY OFFLINE fat finger

2013-12-12 Thread DASDBILL2
Is this real or is it a Friday post a day early?  Someone whose surname is Fatzinger posting on the topic of a Fat finger? Just a humorous coincidence.  g Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN - Original Message - From: Peter Fatzinger f...@us.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent:

Re: Invalid Parmlib member Scan

2013-12-12 Thread DASDBILL2
That should be New Era and not NEWARE. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:00:15 AM Subject: Re: Invalid Parmlib member Scan There is a tool that verifies your parmlib. have

Re: hexadecimal?

2013-12-10 Thread DASDBILL2
December 2013 18:04, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net wrote: My phrase billions of CCWs was assuming you already knew how to read a full track with only one CCW. A fully populated EAV can have 16 to the 7th power cylinders and each cylinder can have 15 tracks.  One Read Track CCW

Re: hexadecimal?

2013-12-10 Thread DASDBILL2
After learning of the existence of XDAP in one of Dr. Rannie's SHARE presentations, I tried it out  when I got home from SHARE.  I found that XDAP is much, much easier to use than all the various pieces which must be interconnected correctly in order to use EXCP.  XDAP is a macro which expands

Re: hexadecimal?

2013-12-10 Thread DASDBILL2
Old SHARE proceedings are online. Bill Fairchld - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:41:30 AM Subject: Re: hexadecimal? Bill, I haven't been fortunate enough to go to Share..I wish

Re: Something to Think About - Optimal PDS Blocking

2013-12-09 Thread DASDBILL2
I believe an application can create a short FB block in the middle of an output data set with the TRUNC macro. Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:00:49 AM Subject: Re:

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