Re: A New Performance Model

2015-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
‎Sometimes, Seymour does make idiotic  comments.  Sometimes? - -teD - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: A New Performance Model ?

2015-04-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I've been a perf/cap analyst since 1981, and I can unequivocally state that the original statement is specious! Upgrades are cheaper than they were, but they're still not free! And, I've been fighting against capacity based pricing sin tiers were introduced in 1984. It is still cheaper to

Re: accounting packages

2015-03-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
CA-NEUMICS‎ used to have an accounting component. It probably still does. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Benjamin Huntsman Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 17:55 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: accounting packages Is there a reason that it needs

Re: setting up a new, improved SMP/E environment

2015-02-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
their word as LAW :-) So I have had to do some ridiculous things for the Auditors! I think that was Ted MacNeil who always said that (more or less this) : 'Auditors recommend. Management Enforce!' But, when I try to have my users comply to do something, I said this According to Management

Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy

2015-02-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The active voice must always be ysed. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Charles Mills Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 11:19 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: IGW01595E message during PDS to PDSE copy Passive voice = weaseling Mistakes were made

Re: Jobs at a given time

2015-02-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
monitor III, panel 'PU' On 31 January 2015 at 05:17, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: There are also interval accounting which can do that. - -teD - Original Message From: John McKown Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 16:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Jobs at a given time

2015-01-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
There are also interval accounting which can do that. - -teD -   Original Message   From: John McKown Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 16:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Jobs at a given time On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn

Re: How Does Your Shop Limit Testing in the Production LPAR

2015-01-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How Does Your Shop Limit Testing in the Production LPAR I'm one of those types. The governor pretty well guarantees a re-submission. Which means twice the resources (or more) spent to do nothing! How can

Re: How Does Your Shop Limit Testing in the Production LPAR

2015-01-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm one of those types. The governor pretty well guarantees a re-submission. Which means twice the resources (or more) spent to do nothing! How can they debug/tune something if we don't let complete? - -teD -   Original Message   From: Shane Ginnane Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 07:10 To:

Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch?)

2014-11-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I was told that System Programming would be reduced to PARMLIB updates. Circa 1981. And.. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Richards, Robert B. Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 13:01 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Started Task Control - -teD -   Original Message   From: zMan Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 13:49 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU? Any guesses what STC *means*? Started TasC? On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Peter

Re: What are STC, JOB and TSU?

2014-11-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
: What are STC, JOB and TSU? W dniu 2014-11-20 o 21:39, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:04:37 -0500, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Started Task Control This was only confusing to me when I worked for Storage Technology Corporation and was new to MVS. Well, when I was working as Storagetek

Re: SMP/E APPLY output capture question

2014-11-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Since you do NOT include any excerpts from other replies, I'm sure your responses are unintelligible. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Hardee, Chuck Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: SMP/E APPLY output

Re: TSO in batch, RECEIVE storage class - solved

2014-10-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Unfortunately, in the case of SMS, you have to write the message. It's rigged for silent running. PS: There a lot of people who hate verbose systems. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:09 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? Ethel Merman - -teD -   Original Message From: Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 17:49 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: More on the Bash Security Vulnerability: CVE-2014-6271 CVE-2014-7169

2014-10-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What about companies that allow HMC access from home? I used to work for one. - -teD -   Original Message   From: R.S. Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 10:27 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: More on the Bash Security Vulnerability: CVE-2014-6271

Re: More on the Bash Security Vulnerability: CVE-2014-6271 CVE-2014-7169

2014-10-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Security Vulnerability: CVE-2014-6271 CVE-2014-7169 W dniu 2014-10-01 o 19:02, Ted MacNEIL pisze: What about companies that allow HMC access from home? I used to work for one. Did you use bash? Note: As I said, I'm talking about this vulnerability, not about any possible vulnerability. BTW

Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand

2014-10-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
1985? You're just a young'un. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Martin Packer Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 15:20 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: zOS 1.13 – CPU latent demand FWIW the vast majority of my customer set have multiple engines in

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-10-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Ethel Merman - -teD -   Original Message   From: Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 17:49 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? 1st about being Lazy, I hear ya, queue up

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Library management services under ISPF -- LM* - -teD -   Original Message   From: Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? Is there any

Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step?

2014-09-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Use LMSTATS others -- it's there! - -teD -   Original Message   From: Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 15:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Any standard IBM tool to set ISPF statistics in a batch step? To further my

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Native TSO EDIT does not have a bounds command. - -teD - Original Message From: Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 13:04 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
TSO commands that provide (all but unknown and unused) line-mode analogs to a few ISPF facilities with similar names, e.g. COPY, ASM, LINK, LISTCAT, etc. On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Native TSO EDIT does not have a bounds command. - -teD

Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

2014-07-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Native TSO EDIT does not have a bounds command. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 13:04 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS It was not clear if you are using NATIVE TSO EDIT or

Re: Cleanup Sort Volumes

2014-07-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Shouldn't the real question be: Why are my sort files staying around after the job's complete? - -teD -   Original Message   From: Doug Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 12:58 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Cleanup Sort Volumes SMS management class

Re: Cleanup Sort Volumes

2014-07-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cleanup Sort Volumes Shouldn't the real question be: Why are my sort files staying around after

Re: PDSE member profile

2014-06-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
‎No. The recovery dataset is under the original user's prefix. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 09:37 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: PDSE member profile On 2014-06-27, at 07:21, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM)

Re: SMF record that records a job being submitted from one system but executing on a different with the same JES2PLEX?

2014-06-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
As Barry stated, look at the SMF Type26 - -teD -   Original Message   From: Mark Regan Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 21:49 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: SMF record that records a job being submitted from one system but executing on a different

Re: Mainframe (in general) running at 100% not always a bad thing

2014-05-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I've worked for a bank and a wholesaler that both routinely ran at 100%. Service levels were met, but people were always griping about the usage. As John said, no harm no foul. - -teD -   Original Message   From: John Eells Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:48 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply

Re: Upgrade Product - Vsam Files

2014-05-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I don't believe the answer to (1) is YES if the vendor recommends it (which I'm assuming since you said 'needs'). - -teD -   Original Message   From: mf db Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 11:53 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Upgrade Product - Vsam

Re: Program PUAUXMON

2014-05-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
RMF monitor I - -teD -   Original Message   From: Juergen Kehr Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 09:51 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Program PUAUXMON Hello, in older archives I found the assembler program PUAUXMON, a small utility to monitor auxiliary

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 and RDz v9.x

2014-04-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
/Thunk_%28compatibility_mapping%29 Kind regards Bernd Am 24.04.2014 23:36, schrieb Ted MacNEIL: Early compiler writers used the term for languages that used 'call by name' sub-routines (such as FORTRAN) when something like an expression was passed. A 'thunking' routine was built

Re: Sorry state of IT education?

2014-04-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
‎I rather not say anything about the errors [1] inside a spreadsheet program like Excel, which will be missed if you're not extra special careful. Even for that, there are specialised software to help you to spot errors in a spreadsheet. A well trained spreadsheet user will catch those errors

Re: Sorry state of IT education?

2014-04-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I agree! And teachers are making it worse. When my older son did a science project once there were a lot of spelling and grammatical errors. Not only did the teacher not even bother to flag them; she said it was not her job to correct them -- she was science not English! When I went through, I

Re: 50th Anniversary Video

2014-04-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
ERROR couldn't resolve host name - -teD -   Original Message   From: Ed Finnell Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 17:03 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: 50th Anniversary Video You'd think IBM would make a documentary or something? Here's what we

Re: Q1-Q10 - 1965 IBM Cards with Question on Front and Answer on back

2014-04-19 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I got a 404 error. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Barry Merrill Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:09 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Q1-Q10 - 1965 IBM Cards with Question on Front and Answer on back My button collection www.mxg.com/TheButtonMan,

Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ?

2014-04-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Have you got multiple periods in the associated WLM Service Class? - -teD -   Original Message   From: Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 04:27 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Predictive Failure Analysis (PFA) can help ? The CPU

Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC

2014-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I learned at Mc Master in 1973. WOW! - -teD -   Original Message   From: Lester, Bob Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 13:33 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Another Golden Anniversary - Dartmouth BASIC Wow, I'm getting old. I learned basic at the

Re: Allocating a concatenation

2014-04-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
‎The following items should be noted when using the concatenate function:     ...    If the data sets have different block sizes, you must specify the data set with the largest block size first.  ... Didn't they remove that restriction last year? A lot longer ago than last year. Pre-z/OS,

Re: Clist character string compare

2014-03-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
.',999,CONCAT) TSOEXEC LISTA ST X = OUTTRAP('OFF') etc. and in e.g. (for Clist): PROC 0 NODE() UID() CONTROL END(ENDO) IF UID = THEN SET UID = SYSUID OPENFILE SYSIN INPUT GETFILE SYSIN DO WHILE MAXCC = 0 TSOEXEC TRANSMIT NODE..UID NOTIFY STR(SYSIN) GETFILE SYSIN ENDO etc. Ted MacNEIL wrote

Re: Clist character string compare

2014-03-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry, you do need it for transmit, but not for lista. Apples oranges. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Ted MacNEIL Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:30 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Clist character string compare But, do you need it? My

Re: Clist character string compare

2014-03-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Clist character string compare Do you mean not if there is an ADDRESS TSO before the LISTA? ('From memory' as it takes 40 mins to IPL my machine.) Ted MacNEIL wrote: Sorry, you do need it for transmit, but not for lista

Re: Clist character string compare

2014-03-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
if LISTA is issued from Clist or REXX ... which is what I was thinking of :-( Ted MacNEIL wrote: You don't need the TSOEXEC for LISTA. - -teD - Original Message From: CM Poncelet Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 18:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re

Re: Clist character string compare

2014-03-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You don't need the TSOEXEC for LISTA. - -teD -   Original Message   From: CM Poncelet Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 18:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Clist character string compare You can store/execute a REXX exec in your Clist library if you

Re: The IBM Strategy

2014-03-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
IBM: We make mistakes so you don't have too! - -teD -   Original Message   From: zMan Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 14:58 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: The IBM Strategy IBM has a strategy? Wow, that's a huge leap forward from what we've seen

Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine

2014-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Out of context! I have NO idea what you mean! - -teD -   Original Message   From: Bob Shannon Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 14:53 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Dynamic Allocation Subroutine Data sets. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: NJE Clarifications

2014-03-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It has been around long before SYSPLEX of any sort. We called it 'Shared SPOOL'. Now it's Multi-Access SPOOL (MAS). - -teD -   Original Message   From: R.S. Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 16:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: NJE Clarifications W

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
VM was around in 1967. Iirc. - -teD -   Original Message   From: DASDBILL2 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 15:09 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems Close.  OS/VS2 was released having been already pre-morphed

Re: Difference between MVS and z / OS systems

2014-03-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I think your dates are wrong. VM was CP67 released in guess what year? MVS was first released in 1974. SVS was OS/VS1 and MVS was OS/VS2, IIRC. I'm sure, if I'm wrong, somebody'll correct me. - -teD -   Original Message   From: DASDBILL2 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 15:09 To:

Re: Another reason to hate the time change

2014-03-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
A lot of non-military people in Canada use it. Especially in IT. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Scott Ford Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 21:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Another reason to hate the time change In Europe we used the 24 hr

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
When I worked for the Ontario government in the early 1980's, we had four 3033's all named after the original colours that they had been as 370's. They were all blue by the time I started working there, but there we signs over each one stating which colour they were and you could use the

Re: NODUMP

2014-03-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Actually, wouldn't you say the production of the dump rather than the suppression of such? - -teD -   Original Message   From: Mark Pace Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 14:52 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: NODUMP Good news/bad news. Good news, I

Re: Branch (was: Performance question - adding)

2014-02-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
‎Pride? Maybe. But, a few have misinterpreted my comments. I didn't say don't optimise. I said why worry about a few instructions? Even inside a loop, one instruction would have have to be executed a great amount before it can/will impact MSU based costs. Also, it have to be executed

Re: Packed decimal (again!)

2014-02-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Careful. In Canada the first four digits identify the issuer. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Gerhard Postpischil Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 23:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Packed decimal (again!) On 2/18/2014 2:08 PM, Phil Smith

Re: Branch (was: Performance question - adding)

2014-02-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I have to ask: Why they big concern over a few instructions?                                Optimisation of a few is not worth the effort these days. - -teD -   Original Message   From: John McKown Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 12:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe

Re: Branch (was: Performance question - adding)

2014-02-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
- adding) On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On 2014-02-17, at 10:36, Ted MacNEIL wrote: I have to ask: Why they big concern over a few instructions? Optimisation of a few is not worth the effort these days. Hmmm... No single instruction is worth

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Actually IBM stopped recommending the 1/3 up the pack with 3380-D/E. In the 1980's‎. I made the old recommendation and they corrected me. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.   Original Message   From: Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:02 To:

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
‎As for location, in a distant galaxy long ago, SLED DASD liked VTOC and  VVDS (did that exist then?) located in the middle of  the volume to  minimize head movement. (Nod if you agree.) That pra It stopped nattering long before RAID came out. 3380-K was when IBM stopped recommending it. Sent

Re: Implicit VVDS creation

2014-02-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It's not just VSAM. SMS datasets use the VVDS, as well. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Doug Fuerst d...@bkassociates.net Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:25:43

Re: SYSB-II

2014-02-06 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Should ask on CICS-l. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.   Original Message   From: Ward, Mike S Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 4:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: SYSB-II I know this is loading a gun :), but do any of

Re: CPU time

2014-02-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Hopefully, they are not counting time spent resolving page faults and such that _validly_ belong in uncaptured time today. I was taught by IBM that was in *MASTEr* SRB time. - -teD 300,000 Kilometres per Second Not only is it a good idea! It's the LAW!!!

Re: CPU time

2014-02-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:00:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CPU time On 2/3/2014 9:38 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Hopefully, they are not counting

Re: CPU time

2014-02-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
the detailed MVS capture ratio discussions imply that MVS isn't even bothering to do the clock accounting for large parts of the kernel (and in some cases has been as high as 60%). A long time ago, in a lab far far away, IBM made a (possibly erroneous) decision when CPU was expensive to not

Re: multiple TSO Sessions (try this)

2014-01-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What blanket statement? There are so many posts to this list, that if you don't quote part of what you're responding to, nobody will understand you. --Original Message-- From: Govind Chettiar Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe

Re: CPU time

2014-01-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
There is probably a start-up overhead that is fixed, regardless of the transaction rate. So, the more transactions running the lower this per transaction cost appears. Example: Assumptions: Fixed overhead: 10 seconds Cost/transaction: 1 second For one transaction: 10+1 = 11 seconds/tx

Re: CPU time

2014-01-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
vm370 did accurately track time used ... but mvs is quite a bit sloppier ... which gives rise to capture ratio ... ratio cpu accounted for compared to total cpu busy. I've been doing capacity planning since 1981. VM is better than MVS, but it's not 100% accurate. No software monitor can be. -

Re: CPU time

2014-01-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
that was used by the task and by MVS. Alas it is (AFAIK) no longer marketed. Ed On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:12 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: vm370 did accurately track time used ... but mvs is quite a bit sloppier ... which gives rise to capture ratio ... ratio cpu accounted for compared to total cpu busy

Re: multiple TSO Sessions (try this)

2014-01-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I truly believe that one ID per person with the ability to sign on once per LPAR (and share the same ISPPROF) is simpler to implement. I don't believe that the typical user needs multiple userids to do their job. - -teD 300,000 Kilometres per Second Not only is it a good idea! It's the LAW!!!

Re: multiple TSO Sessions (try this)

2014-01-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
When I said I truly believe anything more than one userid was needed by a typical user, I NEVER said I would attempt to deny extra ones. I would just have to have a valid reason why. - -teD 300,000 Kilometres per Second Not only is it a good idea! It's the LAW!!!

Re: multiple TSO Sessions (try this)

2014-01-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
There may be (more or less reasonable) reasons for an installation to insist on unique userid/person. Unique mapping of userid to person is a valid issue. You must be accountable for what you do. Sharing of ids negates that. Multiple ids must still be assigned to single people for the same

Re: multiple TSO Sessions

2014-01-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You can access TSO from multiple LPARs with the same ID and password in the same SYSPLEX. As of a few years ago, you can even use the same ISPPROF dataset. But, you cannot sign on twice to the same LPAR with the same ID. - -teD 300,000 Kilometres per Second Not only is it a good idea! It's the

Re: DASD backup solutions

2014-01-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Suggestions can be emailed directly to me at greg_schme...@jbhunt.com That defeats the whole purpose of sharing information -- which is one of the main reasons for the existence of the list. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

Re: How *not* to SLEEP in REXX

2014-01-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
address SYSCALL 'sleep 10' You need a CALL SYSCALLS(ON) first don't you? Hope I spelled it correctly. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: Subject Unicode (Also email. Also TAB.)

2014-01-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
you have the problem to decide what tab positions this file is meant to have, and you always have to guess, and it's wrong most of the time, and the result looks awful Your solution would also look awful with proportional text. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

Re: Scary Sysprogs

2014-01-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I remember, from the early 1980's, a quote along the lines of: If a SYSPROG hasn't p*ssed off at least one person a day, they aren't doing their job! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com Sender

Re: Vendor task failing to populate ISPF.SPFTEMP0.CNTL

2014-01-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Details? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 14:46:05 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply

Re: REXX tutorial

2013-12-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I dabbled a bit in university, but I really got into in under MVS/ESA when it came out under TSO. Then, a few years later, I moved to VM/CMS and started coding it there. Sort of the reverse of most. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From

Re: REXX tutorial

2013-12-31 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It was easy for me, too. I just didn't get involved until it came out on ESA because I didn't work with VM a long time after University. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com Sender: IBM Mainframe

Re: APF authorization and JOBLIB DD card

2013-12-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I started as a JCL-Jockey in 1981. This APF stuff seemed straight-forward back then. Why is it difficult for seasoned types 32 years later? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Jim Mulder d10j...@us.ibm.com Sender: IBM Mainframe

Re: Happy Birthday Commander Grace

2013-12-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Bug was a term used by engineers long before Grace Hopper arrived on the scene. As quoted: ”First actual case of bug being found. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za Sender: IBM

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
TSO appends a prefix of your userid to your data set name unless you specify quotes. Don't forget PROFILE NOPREFIX - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You can (in theory -- I have) create a dataset: A.B.C... Which would limit you to 22 levels. The level is not the limit: it's the combination of node length (8 bytes) and DSN length (44) that determines 'levels'. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message

Re: OT? Opinion article on software design being deliberately unfriendly

2013-11-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Software is difficult to write, so, of course, it should be difficult to read! (8-{]} - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I've always found a big difference in mindsets regarding availability. In general: Mainframers brag about how long systems stay up. UNIX children (PFCSKs) brag about how quickly they can reboot. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Ze'ev

Re: Extents limit for HFS (UNCLASSIFIED)

2013-11-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Where do the -71 and -16 come from? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC (US) lon.a.storr@mail.mil Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:11:58

Re: JCL - What is it and what could it be ?

2013-11-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So we have the same language there for CMS dialog and batch; you simply disconnect from your CMS machine, and the execution continues as a batch machine. Don't you need a SET RUN ON first? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
grep stands for General Regular Expression I had always thought it was: Get Regular Expression and Print - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
They said enough -- just because some are doesn't mean there's enough! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: George Rodriguez george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date

Re: PDS/E, Shared Dasd, and COBOL V5

2013-10-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
PDSE is over 20 years old! What makes it 'special' after all this time? Welcome to the 1990-s! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date

Re: SYSIN Symbol Resolution vs. LRECL

2013-10-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Oh how I wish there was just an option for the JCL stream to be RECFM=VB,LRECL=255 (or more). Can't be MORE until we can edit MORE interactively. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: SYSIN Symbol Resolution vs. LRECL

2013-10-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm not aware of one that is 'free'. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:56:28 To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

2013-10-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it? I must be missing something! Why is this a problem? - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: LISTSERV (was: Embedded two-byte ...)

2013-10-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
He is silent these days. Wonder if he is retired? My understanding is that he retired quite a while ago. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: SMS QUESTION - ACTUAL SPACE NOT ALLOCATED

2013-10-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
where the size is specified) This crops up about once a year, even though it was identified over 20 years ago. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN

Re: Automating weight and/or CP changes

2013-10-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
These capabilities were announced over 10 years ago! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 18:06:13 To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Automating weight and/or CP changes

2013-10-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
WLM can already do both weight and CPU changes. Been at it for 10 years. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Roger Lowe roger_l...@bigpond.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Thu, 3 Oct

Re: Issue with JES SPOOL

2013-09-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
That has been around since 1.3.4 - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:51:24 To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Pissing contest(s)

2013-09-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
That's it, exactly. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 00:33:40 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply

Re: UK NHS £10bn project failure

2013-09-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
porn charges Daily Brew Friday, 20 September, 2013 More Top Slideshows Chilling photos of Kenya mall attack Reuters The Arctic Ocean's shrinking ice Yahoo News High-speed photography captures fluid beauty Yahoo News iPhone 5S hits the shelves Reuters Indonesia volcano Reuters More Home - Ted

Re: UK NHS £10bn project failure

2013-09-21 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The link doesn't go there anymore. I get top headlines only. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: efinnell15 efinnel...@aol.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 14:31:26

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