In 0088725960804398.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/28/2012
at 09:42 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
How would you employ VALUE() to simplify this?
Whoops! Substitution of the tail does occur. That leaves OOREXX, which
hasn't ben ported :-(
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Shmuel
In 584b9998-992d-4fab-9b21-268ad144d...@yahoo.com, on 08/28/2012
at 11:56 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Parsing for me is not an issue. I understand it's not 'NIX' like,
but if you understand the language you craft your programs or
scripts to perform what you want.
When I have
Shmuel,
I love perl and even ruby, but I am in a batch z/os environment writing for
customers, well that's a horse of a different color as they say..
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote:
In
In 0c4610fa-8e37-401f-8833-7fc935672...@yahoo.com, on 08/29/2012
at 02:19 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
I love perl and even ruby, but I am in a batch z/os environment
writing for customers,
While it is backlevel, there is a Perl for z/OS.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,
Other people's parsing machinery is, in my experience, usable only for
context-free 'languages'; and since I devise and use only
context-sensitive--yes, PL/I-like--languages, I have found that I must
build my own parsing machinery; and this is easy enough to do using
REXX.
--jg
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:21:14 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
Other people's parsing machinery is, in my experience, usable only for
context-free 'languages'; and since I devise and use only
context-sensitive--yes, PL/I-like--languages, I have found that I must
build my own parsing machinery; and this
This is a novel and not, I think, a very useful definition of
context-sensitive; but à chacun son goût.
The useful practical distinction is that between languages, like C and
COBOL, that employ reserved words and languages, like PL/I, that do
not.
Academic computer scientists like reserved
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:33:01 +, Bob Shannon wrote:
CLIST stands for Command List i.e., a means to string a series of TSO
commands together. It was rudimentary. Although some improvements have been
added since its inception, it's no Rexx.
Both CLIST and CMS EXEC, but not EXEC 2 nor Rexx
In
cae1xxdgd6eavqvjzptcfkmu9dht3jdjdefc_unfnmzawfak...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/26/2012
at 02:55 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
REXX can also be viewed--Its inventor so views it--as a PL/I dialect.
REXX is structurally very different from PL/I, and PL/I habbits will
get you into
In
58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420f65c0b...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com,
on 08/27/2012
at 11:33 AM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com said:
CLIST stands for Command List i.e., a means to string a series
of TSO commands together. It was rudimentary. Although some
improvements have
Shmuel,
To be honest, the 'if then do' logic is very PL/1 like
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote:
In
58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420f65c0b...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com,
on 08/27/2012
at 11:33 AM, Bob
OK, get your knives and arrows handy...
I like REXX, but I don't find the language itself to be nearly as nice as
scripting languages like Python and even EMCAScript (AKA Javascript).
(Javascript the language, NOT the browser DOM context where it is most
often used, which is horrible ).Tcl
Python would have my vote also, with a nice API to z/OS functions
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 27, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:
OK, get your knives and arrows handy...
I like REXX, but I don't find the language itself to be nearly as nice as
scripting
Sure is
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote:
In e7f5328d-f80a-4616-bc74-d174caf47...@yahoo.com, on 08/27/2012
at 02:02 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
To be honest, the 'if then do' logic is
In 5159fdfc-4063-4acb-969a-95c03fc7d...@yahoo.com, on 08/25/2012
at 12:41 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
They consider REXX a language
Given that substantial applications have been written in REXX, why
would you not consider it to be a programming language?
--
Shmuel
I feel it's a language. Since it not only is interpreted but compiled. The
difference for me is language functions and calls. The difference between exec
or exec2 and rexx is pretty major to me. A lot of differences. I learned rexx
in 1984 .but I feel each language has advantages and
REXX is a statement-level procedural language (SLPL).
I qualify it in this way because the term 'language' properly embraces
a great many usefully distinguished things.
The title of one of the great classics of 20th-century biology is
von Frisch, Karl. Tanzensprache und Orientierung der
John,
Ty I didn't realize REXX, was a PL/1 dialect. Very interesting I wrote PL/1
under OS/VS2 many many moons ago, in the 70s. I hadnt heard of a SLPL..so I
find this also interesting..and would like to know more.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 26, 2012, at 2:55 PM, John Gilmore
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#8 execs or scripts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#9 execs or scripts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#15 execs or scripts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#20 execs or scripts
other trivia ... vm/cms SE on financial services accounts
Relevance?
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.comwrote:
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#8 execs or scripts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#9 execs or scripts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#15 execs or scripts
zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) writes:
Relevance?
my bad, thread in comp.lang.rexx that went to wrong place
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Your bad it may be, but I cannot refrain from noting that, while I too
prefer 'script' to 'exec', even 'exec' is better than talking/writing
about 'a REXX' or REXXs'; and this subliterate usage appears to be
spreading: we have far too much of it on IBM-MAIN.
--jg
On 8/24/12, Anne Lynn Wheeler
I prefer exec myself, but I believe a true exec should have been written in
EXEC or EXEC 2 language, not Rexx. I find a Rexx to be awkward, but I'm not
convinced that it's incorrect.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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For IBM-MAIN
Bob,
I'm not sure I agree.
My problem is that your view sanctions, implicltly encourages, usages
like 'an Assembler' for an assembly-language program or 'a COBOL' for
a COBOL program.
The distinction between the entity, routine or table, and the language
in which it is written is valuable,
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
I prefer exec myself, but I believe a true exec should have been written
in EXEC or EXEC 2 language, not Rexx. I find a Rexx to be awkward, but I'm
not convinced that it's incorrect.
Right. A Rexx is actually
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Subject: Re: execs or scripts
Your bad it may be, but I cannot refrain from noting that, while I too
prefer 'script' to 'exec', even 'exec' is better than talking/writing
about 'a REXX' or REXXs'; and this subliterate usage appears to be
spreading: we have far too much of it on IBM
Phil,
Worked VM since SP1, they were always execs to me. Scripts makes me think Nix,
unix .
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 24, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Phil Smith p...@voltage.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com
wrote:
I prefer exec
John,
Maybe the usage of execs or rexx in writing or speaking might be based on
whether you learned iron VM or z/OS. I learned my on VM. So I can only give you
my perspective.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 24, 2012, at 12:15 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
Bob,
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