Re: Does your company have different SLO / SLA's for Scheduled / Unscheduled downtime?

2013-10-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 524900a1.40...@yahoo.com, on 09/30/2013 at 12:40 AM, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com said: I like to account for four different types of service time for SLAs. 5. Environmental outages a. Earthquake b. Flood c. Squirrel d. War Such environmental outages should not count

Re: Does your company have different SLO / SLA's for Scheduled / Unscheduled downtime?

2013-09-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:40:01 -0400, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com wrote: I like to account for four different types of service time for SLAs. Scheduled Maintenance Windows: These are predefined, scheduled, well-publicized and should not count against an SLA. Scheduled Outages: These are

Re: Does your company have different SLO / SLA's for Scheduled / Unscheduled downtime?

2013-09-30 Thread Thomas Kern
I do not like changing the actual time value, if the Scheduled Outage is one hour, it is reported as One Hour, but all parties concerned understand that that is not as impacting as a one hour Unscheduled Outage which gives no one any warning. I also leave it up to the management negotiators

Re: Does your company have different SLO / SLA's for Scheduled / Unscheduled downtime?

2013-09-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:59:05 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: It seems that all of three gentlemen above (Skip, Mark, Mike) can perform as many outages as they want, oops they NEED. Wouldn't even go as far as need. The point is, once the IPL is approved and scheduled, it

Re: Does your company have different SLO / SLA's for Scheduled / Unscheduled downtime?

2013-09-29 Thread Thomas Kern
I like to account for four different types of service time for SLAs. Scheduled Maintenance Windows: These are predefined, scheduled, well-publicized and should not count against an SLA. Scheduled Outages: These are outages for maintenance, upgrades etc that cannot wait until the next

Re: Does your company have different SLO / SLA's for Scheduled / Unscheduled downtime?

2013-09-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-09-24 18:42, Mike Shorkend pisze: Same here Well, disclaimer mode on Maybe this is my misunderstanding of scheduled participle. disclaimer off I don't buy it! It seems that all of three gentlemen above (Skip, Mark, Mike) can perform as many outages as they want, oops they NEED.

Re: Does your company have different SLO / SLA's for Scheduled / Unscheduled downtime?

2013-09-24 Thread Mike Shorkend
Same here On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:03:40 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: Although some may disapprove of our practice, it has been in place for decades. Our SLAs apply to unscheduled outages. As long

Re: Does your company have different SLO / SLA's for Scheduled / Unscheduled downtime?

2013-09-23 Thread Skip Robinson
Although some may disapprove of our practice, it has been in place for decades. Our SLAs apply to unscheduled outages. As long as an outage is scheduled, approved, advertized to affected clients, and completed on time, we are not dinged for it. Of course we try to minimize scheduled outages,

Re: Does your company have different SLO / SLA's for Scheduled / Unscheduled downtime?

2013-09-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:03:40 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: Although some may disapprove of our practice, it has been in place for decades. Our SLAs apply to unscheduled outages. As long as an outage is scheduled, approved, advertized to affected clients, and completed on