Re: Memories (was: RE: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:44:51 +, Lester, Bob wrote: > Dartmouth? I got into quite a bit of trouble when I got a little > over-familiar with the DTSS system at Dartmouth - one connected to the USMMA > (among others, I think). This was around 1975/6. > > Crashed it once (via acoustic

Memories (was: RE: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-13 Thread Lester, Bob
Dartmouth? I got into quite a bit of trouble when I got a little over-familiar with the DTSS system at Dartmouth - one connected to the USMMA (among others, I think). This was around 1975/6. Crashed it once (via acoustic modem in the library on-campus). Couldn't believe it happened,

Re: memories

2014-11-24 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Much bigger than bees knees too... On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:53:46 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: ... a TSO under VS/1 product that we were looking at. Did you get the opportunity to try it ?. I thought it was the ducks

memories

2014-11-20 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:53:46 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: ... a TSO under VS/1 product that we were looking at. Did you get the opportunity to try it ?. I thought it was the ducks nuts when I moved to a company that had it. Shane ...

Destination z: Cherished Computer Memories

2014-06-12 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Part 2 Cherished Computer Memories: Holding on to keepsakes can teach us about a certain time in computing and help us relive our experiences http://www.destinationz.org/Mainframe-Solution/Trends/Cherished-Computer-Memories ...thanks, IBM-Main, for reminder about button man! -- Gabriel

Re: Destination z: Cherished Computer Memories

2014-06-12 Thread Ed Finnell
IIRC there were 'Button men'. In Dr. Merrill's absence they would wear the Button Coat. I'm not sure of the hierarchy. Barry Lewis was one in early nineties.. In a message dated 6/12/2014 1:58:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, g...@gabegold.com writes: ...thanks, IBM-Main, for reminder

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m3ha77p31u@garlic.com, on 03/09/2014 at 03:47 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: ... the executable image on disk could be directly mapped to any address in memory w/o any further alterations or changes. You don't consider a PSECT to be part of the image? -- Shmuel

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Tony Harminc
On 10 March 2014 10:57, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote: I would tend to use the distinction that for the psect, a private copy was loaded and adjusted for the specific virtual address space location ... separately from (r/o) memory mapping the executable image with no requirement for

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
was that these tasks were never preempted, so it was permissible to have a register containing an address within the module, as long as it was made relative before (loosely) calling the dispatcher, which might result in relocation. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#25 [OT ] Mainframe memories http

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Ed Finnell
Guess the naming gnomes were trying to subliminally suggest it had no SS instructions. In a message dated 3/10/2014 1:56:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, et...@tulsagrammer.com writes: IBM System/360 Model 44, optimized for scientific work

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 3/8/14, 6:49 PM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: In b6c1eb4364c30e47950e0f68ef65f46708f24...@proditmailbox1.us.syncsort.com, on 03/07/2014 at 08:50 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com said: When working for a third party disk vendor I was in a computer room and there was

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Barry Merrill
Chevalier Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 1:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories On 3/8/14, 6:49 PM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: In b6c1eb4364c30e47950e0f68ef65f46708f24...@proditmailbox1.us.syncsort.c om, on 03/07/2014 at 08:50 PM, Blaicher, Christopher

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Richard Pinion
Now that's something to be proud of, and funny too! Richard and Vickie Pinion --- ba...@mxg.com wrote: From: Barry Merrill ba...@mxg.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 14:09:58 -0500 In 1966 we got 360/44

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m38usiot5y@garlic.com, on 03/10/2014 at 01:33 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: 2714 2741? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877:

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Chris Hoelscher
and Metavance safe for all HUMANAty -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Blaicher, Christopher Y. Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 10:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] [OT ] Mainframe memories Right you

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
as equivalent to a VM/360, since both required more than basic S/360 architecture. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#16 [OT ] Mainframe memories http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#22 [OT ] Mainframe memories Bob Creasy (manager of cp40 effort) sent me copy of his cp40 speech he gave on seas

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSS/360 re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#16 [OT ] Mainframe memories http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#22 [OT ] Mainframe memories http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#23 [OT ] Mainframe memories as undergraduate in the 60s, I got to rewrite a lot

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread John Gilmore
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) wrote: begin extract one of the things that I did have lots of problems with was supporting position independent code (mentioned in the tss/360 wiki article) ...constantly having to hack code to make in position independent /end extract Is 'position

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#16 [OT ] Mainframe memories http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#22 [OT ] Mainframe memories http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#23 [OT ] Mainframe memorie http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#25 [OT ] Mainframe memorie univ ran fortran student

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
pseudo-random number generator that was location-dependent.) re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014d.html#25 [OT ] Mainframe memories I've used position location independence somewhat interchangeably. In my use for cp67/cms page mapped filesystem and in tss/360 use ... the executable image on disk

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Roger W. Suhr
Was the smoke black or white? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Hoelscher Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories Maybe IBM elected a new chairman

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 531be625.2040...@acm.org, on 03/08/2014 at 09:55 PM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: I believe the CP-40 and CP-67 precursors of VM/370 required more than just S/360 architecture; For CP-40 the extension was nonstandard, but for CP-67 the extension was part of a standard 360/67, even

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-09 Thread Tony Harminc
On 9 March 2014 09:01, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: Much earlier, someone decided that the power unit for the 650 was of a convenient height for drying socks. A Selenium rectifier blew out. Not a pleasant smell (the rectifier; no comment on the socks), as anyone

Re: Write Inhibit (Was: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories)

2014-03-08 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 22:47:26 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: There should still be write inhibit switch for a volume, even if only a logical one. It can be very useful, when running under z/VM, to be able to define some z/OS volumes as read-only. It would be nice if you could do something similar in a z/OS

Re: Write Inhibit (Was: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories)

2014-03-08 Thread Bob Shannon
There should still be write inhibit switch for a volume, even if only a logical one. It can be very useful, when running under z/VM, to be able to define some z/OS volumes as read-only. It would be nice if you could do something similar in a z/OS LPAR. Amen. We could really use this feature.

Re: Write Inhibit (Was: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories)

2014-03-08 Thread Jim Mulder
There should still be write inhibit switch for a volume, even if only a logical one. It can be very useful, when running under z/VM, to be able to define some z/OS volumes as read-only. It would be nice if you could do something similar in a z/OS LPAR. Amen. We could really use this

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-08 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
My memory was about an incident that occurred at an installation that I worked at. Their DASD were 2314s (which were 9 drive units - 8 live and one spare). The address of the drives were controlled by a round plug that could be removed and placed in the address hole of another drive. There

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In b6c1eb4364c30e47950e0f68ef65f46708f24...@proditmailbox1.us.syncsort.com, on 03/07/2014 at 08:50 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com said: When working for a third party disk vendor I was in a computer room and there was an IBM CE working on a 360/45. No such animal; I might

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-08 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2014 7:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories In b6c1eb4364c30e47950e0f68ef65f46708f24...@proditmailbox1.us.syncsort.com, on 03/07/2014 at 08:50 PM, Blaicher

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-08 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 03/08/2014 06:43 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 68b5f70ac126ab4dad0e627d782a606a38f...@ufexch-mbxn01.ad.ufl.edu, on 03/07/2014 at 07:56 PM, Nims,Alva John (Al) ajn...@ufl.edu said: IBM 4341 running VM/360 No such animal; there was a CP-67 for the S/360, but VM was strictly for

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-08 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 19:54 -0500 on 03/08/2014, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories: In b6c1eb4364c30e47950e0f68ef65f46708f24...@proditmailbox1.us.syncsort.com, on 03/07/2014 at 08:50 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com said: When working for a third party disk

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-08 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:13 -0600 on 03/08/2014, Barry Merrill wrote about Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories: In 1972, the Corporation's Annual PL job read multiple tape reels from each of the 26 regional offices, so 26 tape drives were allocated to the job, which took over 40 hours across a dedicated weekend

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
the /*ROUTE JCL card to actually state which colour  you wanted the job to run on - -teD -   Original Message   From: William Donzelli Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 23:12 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories To commemorate the 50th

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Phil Smith
Anyone have 360 Emergency Pull stories? This is secondhand, but I heard of operators playing Frisbee in the machine room and-yeah, emergency PUSH button, no guard. I've used that story to explain to people why there's a guard over it. I also heard of a manager being in the computer room when

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 3:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories Anyone have 360 Emergency Pull stories? ATTENTION

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Skip Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 03/07/2014 12:34 PM Subject:Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Anyone have 360 Emergency Pull stories? This is secondhand, but I heard of operators playing Frisbee in the machine room and-yeah

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Bob Shannon
One of the operators came in and set her purse on the table by the keyboard. Sure enough, it tipped over and started an IPL Interesting. We had an operator who dropped a book on it. Same result. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Ed Gould
I am sure everyone remembers raised tiles, right? Well our cleaning people started to use some cleaning solution that weakened the tile on the raised floor. This caused people to stumble on these. One Sunday morning we came in to test and found that someone (it turned out to be a disk CE

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Gary Jacek
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories Anyone have 360 Emergency Pull stories? ATTENTION: - The information contained in this message (including any files transmitted with this message) may contain proprietary, trade secret or other confidential

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gary Jacek Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 3:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories At a former employer, we had a red master EPO switch under

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
ibm science center was on part of the 4th flr of 545 tech sq ... some past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech but the machine room occupied part of the 2nd flr. it had duplex (two processor) 360/67, 768kbytes memory, three 2301 drums, five 8+1 drive 2314 string plus one 5

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread Wayne Driscoll
My two favorite memories are: 1 - I got called at 0230 because first the system crashed for no apparent reason, then when they went to IPL, it failed to. So I drive into work, go to the machine room, and as I am trying to figure out what is going on, I notice some tape rings on the floor. So I

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-07 Thread zMan
Wayne -- did you ever find out where the tape rings came from, and who'd munged the Write Inhibit switches? On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Wayne Driscoll wdri...@us.ibm.com wrote: My two favorite memories are: 1 - I got called at 0230 because first the system crashed for no apparent reason

Re: [OT ] Mainframe memories

2014-03-06 Thread William Donzelli
To commemorate the 50th anniversary of S/360 I wrote a blog that many of you may have seen already but just in case you missed it: http://butmostlyaboutcats.blogspot.com/2014/03/mainframe-memories.html Very nice, thank you. One thing I noted was the bit about the colors - how each upgraded

Re: Thanks for the memories

2012-08-22 Thread Richards, Robert B.
for the memories Next week, life as I know it ends. At the same time, a new life begins as I exit employment and enter a brave new world of retirement/consulting. I want to thank each one of the participants of both the IBM MAIN and RACF lists. You have been of immeasurable help. May love and laughter

Re: Thanks for the memories

2012-08-22 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
All the best to you in your future endeavors. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Thanks for the memories Next week, life

Re: Thanks for the memories

2012-08-22 Thread Mike Schwab
If this is a work email, you can re-subscribe with a personal email. And you can join the hercules groups and get Turnkey 3 MVS3.8J to keep up you skills / develop solutions at home as a consultant. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: Next week, life as I

Re: Thanks for the memories

2012-08-22 Thread George Rodriguez
Merritt -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Thanks for the memories Hal, Enjoy your retirement! Are you sure you

Re: Thanks for the memories

2012-08-22 Thread Hal Merritt
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Thanks for the memories Hal, I've sent you a LinkedIn request to connect to your work email address. * * *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile

Re: Thanks for the memories

2012-08-22 Thread George Rodriguez
Subject: Re: Thanks for the memories Hal, I've sent you a LinkedIn request to connect to your work email address. * * *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Solutions* *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)* *School

Re: Thanks for the memories

2012-08-22 Thread Chris Craddock
Hal, How is that after all these years I didn't know you live in Houston? Good luck in your retirement/consulting. Chris Craddock Sent from my cell phone 281-770-1950 On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: Next week, life as I know it ends. At the same time,

Re: Thanks for the memories

2012-08-22 Thread bernardhines
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Thanks for the memories No particular plans as yet, just a vision. I just can't imagine walking away from a career spanning four decades. But I'm being told that my perceptions will change as the New Day dawns. I