Then that would either be April 1988 or December 1988, depending on
whether DFP 3.1 shipped with MVS/ESA 3.1.0 or 3.1.0e.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM
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email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
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:: AFAIK, Innovation (FDR, etc.) still ships their
Hey Guys
Thanks for all input. I was able to convince management, using all the pointers
you guys gave me and few reports, I prepared using RMM and VEHSTATS.
They realised the need for another 300 mpbs bandwidth requirement for vNode, so
in couple of weeks we will be getting 600 mbps.
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:36:01 -0400, Thomas Conley pinnc...@rochester.rr.com
wrote:
Isn't it ironic that a
utility designed to save DASD space uses a 6144 blocksize and actually
wastes DASD?
Taking the risk of starting another flame war here...
Are there still any shops that have actual SLED?
W dniu 2013-07-23 12:32, Jantje. pisze:
Taking the risk of starting another flame war here...
Are there still any shops that have actual SLED? In today's world of emulated
DASD, would it really still hold true that using smaller block sizes is
actually wasting space? After all, these bytes
Hello All,
I am in a process of applying a fix to a product which eventually changes
the LPA library of the product. So as a backup I have overridden the DDDEF
by specifying a newly created LPA library(Copied from the existing one from
LPA queue).
Since Current LPA queue addresses SVC 254, for
I have been working with SMP/E since before there was an E (SMP) (over 40
years) and I believe shops that limit themselves to SMP/E installed products
are simply causing themselves extra work.
I am a consultant and a software developer. Recently had two installs. One from
IBM using SMP/E and
I'm not an EasyTrieve programmer. We have it here. But if there is not some
sort of ROUND function, then why not define a field with two decimal
positions. Then take your number to be rounded; add .005 to it; and store
it into then aforementioned variable, which should truncate the excess
digits.
W dniu 2013-07-23 13:41, Donald Likens pisze:
I have been working with SMP/E since before there was an E (SMP) (over 40
years) and I believe shops that limit themselves to SMP/E installed products
are simply causing themselves extra work.
I am a consultant and a software developer. Recently
To modify LPALIST, an IPL is required. Are you saying this product is
(updating/replacing) the user SVC 254? Or more than just the SVC?
In general, you can replace LPA resident modules w/SETPROG
LPA,ADD,MOD=lmodname,DSNAME=dsname . Works for 1 or 2modules, otherwise it
gets quite cumbersome.
I would suggest a quick trip to the MVS manuals for SETPROG
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.
zos.r11.ieag100/setprog.htm
Next, you need to be very careful when changing a module in LPA. Could
cause an IPL.
Do you have any tools like Tivoli (Omegamon),
Hello,
It is just updating SVC 254. Its like : JAKE.PROD.LPA is already in
LPALIST, but due to a new maintenance I have overridden the LPA DDDEF with
a copy of JAKE.PROD.LPA as : //DBLPA DD DSN=JAKE.PROD.LPA.NEW,DISP=SHR
So, DYNAMIC update of JAKE.PROD.LPA.NEW will be feasible ?
On Tue, Jul
The scheme John McKown describes is called Gaussian roundoff. It has
the merits that it is familiar and easy to implement. It is not
unbiased, and it is not always the best or even a particularly good
rounding scheme to use.
Rounding is, in general, a much more complex process than many people
Actually you can update an entire library by issueing SETPROG
LPA,ADD,DSN=,MASK=*,
and then you update the SVC with SETPROG
LPA,ADD,DSN=xxx,MODNAME=,SVCNUMDEC=254.
Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos
Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
BANCO BRADESCO S.A.
4250 / DPCD Engenharia de Software
Your no interaction between the product and any other component
implicitly includes it, but perhaps it should be explicitly stated that
this means the non-SMP/E product, or a product with its own SMP/E zones,
may not require the installation of any elements in libraries owned by
any other product
Lizette,
Thanks for your help. I did run 2 separate reports. The first with all
options and the other only for MIGRATDATA. The first report had the dsns
displayed while the other was empty. This confirms what you have been saying.
Thanks.
From: Lizette
On 07/21/2013 09:46 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
Interesting article on how IBM is working to capture the Cloud share.
http://news.yahoo.com/amazon-vs-ibm-big-blue-120912394.html
By Alistair Barr
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - The tech industry maxim that no one ever got
fired for buying IBM
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 21:25:23 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 16:51 -0500 on 07/22/2013, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: BLKSIZE=3120:
Most PTFs should be able to be applied, restored and applied again
without issues.
This is an issue since the design of RESTORE is broken due to its
poor
I too have experience that predates the 'E' in SMP/E, but I have more
respect for this tool than I can say. A few quick queries hints at what my
current z/OS CSI manages:
MOD- 79,869
LMOD - 31,153
MAC- 8,545
PNL- 13,494
All of these elements are mapped completely, including
On 2013-07-23, at 08:53, Skip Robinson wrote:
I understand the appeal of the quick-and-dirty download-and-go approach,
particularly for a consultant brought to town for a product install. It's
fast, it's tidy, and it's over before the smoke clears. Then bye-bye to
Ms. C, who moves on to
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:01:05 +0530, Jake anderson wrote:
I am in a process of applying a fix to a product which eventually changes
the LPA library of the product.
You are applying a fix to a running product. One of the elements is in library
that is in the LPA list. Is that correct? If so,
SMP/E is imperfect. What is not? That conceded, it has no viable
competitors.
It should also, I think, be used in place of its notional competitors
for applications maintenance. The idea that applications must be
maintained using something 'simpler and easier to use' is delusional.
None of
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 06:41:37 -0500, Donald Likens wrote:
If a shop required an SMP/E maintained product, I guess I would
create a CSI etc. but I would download it like a serverpac.
There is much more to an SMP/E maintained product than create a
CSI etc. A CSI is worthless unless maintenance
Thanks for the confirmation.
I would suggest you work with your sysprogs group to get the Option G in
ISMF working. It is not a lot of effort and will provide you with a lot
more reporting processes than Naviquest.
IBM is enhancing that function more than Naviquest.
I think this is all you
A group is concerned that we have a single RACF database and there is no
'test' RACF database where the organization can implement 'test' rulesets.
We have two sysplexes - a systems sandbox with no applications and a
mixed development/production sysplex where all the applications reside.
The
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/ibm-unveils-new-mainframe-for-the-rest-of-us/
Not a lot in it, but some $ figures.
quote
The zBC12 includes a number of performance enhancements over IBM’s previous
“midrange” offering, the z114. It uses a faster, 4.2GHz 64-bit
z/Architecture
We have 3 Sysplexes (Prod, Dev, Sandbox) each with their own RACF Databases. We
use RRSF to connect all 3 databases. Any updates to the Prod and Dev databases
are propagated to the other 2 databases (therefore all databases are in sync
with the rules defined) The Sandbox database receives rule
Actually I believe that the 'concerned' group is right. Not only do each
of our sysplexes have its own unique RACF data base, one 'bronze-plex'
full-function parallel sysplex has two different RACF data bases. This is
because a while back we bolted together a development plex and a Tier 2
Tom Marchant wrote:
You are applying a fix to a running product. One of the elements is in
library that is in the LPA list. Is that correct? If so, you might have
bigger issues than the LPA library.
Absolutely!
The LPA library is not used except at IPL time, so this may not be necessary.
I believe that the net result of coding smaller blocksizes does result in
being able to store less data. If you had 1,000 volumes all defined as
3390-9s, and each volume had 100 datasets that filled the volume blocked at
512 bytes, you would store a fraction of the data if you blocked each of
Thanks Lizette and others,
We have a pretty solid process for tracking releases, fixes, changes, updates,
etc. In 23 years there was only one confusion when a customer did not apply a
fix as requested but we figured that our pretty quickly.
We are going to look into the SMP/E process however.
It is certainly true that BLKSIZE= values now have less importance
than they had on spnning physical CKD DASD, but that is not very
important. It is almost irrelevant.
I/O performance is very much better for large BLKSIZE= values. This
is now indeed the principal rationale for using them.
jcew...@acm.org (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
If one were into wild conspiracy theories, then obviously the government
spy agencies are trying to encourage expansion of the Amazon cloud
services because they believe they will be able monitor everyone else's
cloud activities more easily if they are
Got the answer from IBM.
With Automount, you can not have an automount controlled directory
under another automount controlled directory.
and
You can mount to /u/wsbinds and in /u/cics you
can put a symlink to /u/wsbinds. For example
ln -s /u/wsbinds /u/cics/wsbinds
That will let you
It appears that:
HSEND PATCH .MCVT.+01E3 BITS(..1.) VERIFY(.MCVT.+01E3 X'00')
OUTDATASET(GIBNEY.MVCTPAT)
2nd byte of MCVTIAGE
Delayed an expiration even with USERDATASETSERIALIZATION
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University
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I can't speak to all (most?) of the current architecture boxes, but to attempt
to answer Jantje's question, yes the boxes I'm familiar with will definitely
store less data on small block sizes. I am not speaking of the boxes that do
thin provisioning because I haven't used this feature, but on
Here's the link to the announcement letter.
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS113-121
Planned availability September 20.
On another note, can someone point me to the announcement for
end-of-availability for
On 23 July 2013 11:56, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/ibm-unveils-new-mainframe-for-the-rest-of-us/
Not a lot in it, but some $ figures.
quote
And as far as mainframes go, the zBC12 is priced to move, starting at
Pommier, Rex R. wrote:
On another note, can someone point me to the announcement for
end-of-availability for purchasing upgrades to a z10BC? I must be brain-dead
because I haven't been able to find it, and in this GINMF (Google is not my
friend).
Pommier, Rex R. wrote:
Here's the link to the announcement letter.
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS113-121
Planned availability September 20.
On another note, can someone point me to the announcement for
On Jul 23, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Skip Robinson wrote:
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SNIP
SMP/E knows and remembers forever.
.
.
Skip,
Excellent point and put better than I did in my reply.
The worst thing a manager can do is to hire a consultant
Martin Truebner wrote:
anyone able to attend?
I was on for 30 minutes; content-free to that point. I hadn't counted on them
FORCING me to use a PC, was planning to listen while driving to another
meeting. But since there WAS no content to that point, I didn't feel too badly
bailing.
All I
As others have already stated, the physical disk space to represent an
emulated 3390 volume is only data-dependent if you are dealing with
log-mapped emulated DASD storage, like the Iceberg RVA, where each write
of an emulated track goes to a new physical location in the DASD
subsystem. I suspect
Thanks, John and Sergio;
I have no idea why I couldn't find it - other than brain-deadness - but this is
exactly the information I was looking for.
Rex
From: Ed Castro [ed.cas...@hds.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:20 PM
To: Pommier, Rex R.
Subject:
Paul,
Sigh... there is installed and then there is INSTALLED. No
application programmer would/should be granted access to update to
any system library if that is what you complaining about too bad, If
you are talking SMPE Again the smpe libraries are essentially keys.
Now they are OK for
While downloading something else at the IBM Publications Center I
found the notice:
begin copy
Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM
Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications
are being made available in electronic format to be viewed or
As with almost everything else, the answer is it depends. For large
sequential datasets as you described, I agree.
But consider a card image PDS (JCL, source, etc) where most members average
around 400 records. Half block on a 3390 is 349 records. The first member
will occupy 2 blocks on the
Is there a quick way to reverse MSB to LSB the bits of a 64-bit register? If
I have a register that contains 01234567_89ABCDEF to convert it to
F7B3D591_E6A2C480? (I think I got that at least mostly right.) A bit-wise
Load Reversed?
Yes, I am familiar with the Pops. Hard to find an instruction
W dniu 2013-07-23 23:21, John Gilmore pisze:
While downloading something else at the IBM Publications Center I
found the notice:
begin copy
Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM
Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications
are being made
Riddle me this. Which one transfers fastest? RU size maxbufrs, transmission
speed,compression, Consistent, repeatable, less than 4k?
In a message dated 7/23/2013 4:34:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
retired-mainfra...@q.com writes:
Almost a 50% improvement. My preference is 6160
I agree with you to a point. The bigger gripe I have is the move away from
Library Server to InfoCenters. At least with my own hosted version of the
documents on Library Server I can add my own margin notes...a side benefit of
real manuals as well. There doesn't appear to be any way to do so
Look at the Rotate instructions in the PrOp. RLL will do come close
to doing what you want to do.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:49:00 -0400, Charles Mills wrote:
Why? Those of you following another thread I started know I am looking to
implement a 64-bit version of the UNIX library function ffs(), which returns
the bit number of the least significant one bit of a word. z architecture
provides the
Where's Shai Hess when we need him?
Sent from Tony's iPhone.
On Jul 23, 2013, at 1:10 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
It is certainly true that BLKSIZE= values now have less importance
than they had on spnning physical CKD DASD, but that is not very
important. It is almost
Gil,
The maximum negative value must also be treated as a special case.
John P. Baker
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Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Is
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:05:34 -0500, Ed Gould wrote:
Sigh... there is installed and then there is INSTALLED. No
application programmer would/should be granted access to update to
any system library if that is what you complaining about too bad, If
you are talking SMPE Again the smpe libraries are
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 19:22:49 -0400, John P. Baker wrote:
The maximum negative value must also be treated as a special case.
I concluded that in a mental simulation after I pressed SEND. This
is why boundary conditions should be tested.
I also should have said Subtract Logical rather than
There's a RLLG instruction to rotate the bits in a 64-bit integer. I
know that you want to call such a routine from C/C++. If you need to
write ffs64() in assembler
you may find the linkage overhead of calling the routine is far greater
than a slower implementation that has been inlined. It's
I am happy to have David join in my recommendation, and I can imagine
a circumstance in which RLLG would be more useful than RLL, but RLL
itself does 64-bit rotations.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
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There is too much pussyfooting going on here. IBM clearly has
knowledge of a security exposure that is SMP/E-linked. I have no
notion what this linkage is, but what it is will emerge, and we may
hope that IBM has eliminated it before then.
Absent this problem it would be entirely possible to
_asm and or one of those pseudo-assembler/library routines like __tr() for
more machine instructions.
Yes, overhead is definitely a negative for calls, especially if (like some
of us) you have not exactly gotten around to embracing XPLINK.
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe
Hmmm. Have to think that one through. Thanks.
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Is there a reverse bits hardware
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:58:16 -0600, Roger Bolan wrote:
Application programmers should be able to use SMP/E. They just should
never be updating the system zones and libraries. As an application
developer I have for years maintained my own sandbox CSI with my own
global, target and dlib zones.
Has anyone converted VISARA consoles from ESCON to FICON?
They work fine as ESCON, but will not talk to z/OS as FICON.
They run off of ESCON and FICON directors respectively.
We have done 3 PORs and each time the console's get either a 505 or a 510.
We need VISARAs for the LMU interface for
On 24/07/2013 8:07 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
I am happy to have David join in my recommendation, and I can imagine
a circumstance in which RLLG would be more useful than RLL, but RLL
itself does 64-bit rotations.
Sorry John, I didn't see your recommendation. Of course you are right
RLL can
On 24/07/2013 8:19 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
_asm and or one of those pseudo-assembler/library routines like __tr() for
more machine instructions.
There's is no built-in for RLL. I've got a requirement with IBM for
__asm() support. I'm hoping it's going to make it in z/OS 2.1.
Yes, overhead
On 13Jul23:1317-0700, Phil Smith wrote:
Martin Truebner wrote:
anyone able to attend?
I was on for 30 minutes; content-free to that
point. I hadn't counted on them FORCING me to use a
PC, was planning to listen while driving to another
meeting. But since there WAS no content to that
Not sure how rotation would accomplish reversal.
(I had looked at the rotate and shift instructions. Thought perhaps there
was a rotate until you shift out a bit and tell me how far you shifted
instruction.)
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
It's easy to do on X86 or ARM architectures which have instructions for
scanning, counting and reversing bits
https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php/blob/master/hphp/util/bitops.h.
Now I'm interested in what is the most efficient way to do this on
zArch. I thought zArch was king of the CISC.
Charles:
Tried that and they don't have 3 hole punched paper. I also remember
having an issue of double sided printing(to be honest its been a few
years but the KINKOs didn't support two sided printing either).
Ed
On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
Or order the PDF and
Paul:
Heck if they (application programmer) wanted to create their own
CSI's and maintain it for application code go for it. I don't think
IBM would be equipped to handle application types calling them on the
1-800 number though. If you want the systems group to handle call's
better hire
Dear Listers
Can some one please point me in the right direction to implement WLM managed
job class that can schedule jobs on different LPARS selected on basis of
service class Performance Index and/or soft CAPPING status of individual LPAR.
Creating Scheduling Resources / Environment and
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