OT - Internet App Outages

2013-10-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Just as a wind up to some of our earlier discussions, I have EarthLink as an email provider. I was not able to see my email for about 8 hours. Then when it became available, no information at this time from EarthLink or why/what was at the heart of the failure. I also heard that Twitter may have

Re: OT - Internet App Outages

2013-10-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler wrote: Just as a wind up to some of our earlier discussions, I have EarthLink as an email provider. I was not able to see my email for about 8 hours. Then when it became available, no information at this time from EarthLink or why/what was at the heart of the failure. I also

Re: Automating weight and/or CP changes

2013-10-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-10-04 03:16, Ted MacNEIL pisze: WLM can already do both weight and CPU changes. Been at it for 10 years. For non-sysplexed systems? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku

Re: OT - Internet App Outages

2013-10-04 Thread Barry Merrill
I had an Earthlink dial up account as a backup to the DSL service here on the Atlantic in the wild west County Clare (BUT WE ARE 2013's ALL IRELAND HURLING CHAMPIONS, BOTH SENIOR AND UNDER 21) but terminated the service last year when their dialup modems in four Irish cities I tried all had

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread David Griffiths
On 4 October 2013 06:03, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote: Unfortunately, as many of you have pointed out in this thread, IBM/CA/BMC software is seen as the premium choice for Systems Automation software, even though feature-for-feature, and cost-wise we have them well and

Re: OT - Internet App Outages

2013-10-04 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Wow, what are the odds? This is the second time in the last 24 hours that I heard about the All Ireland Hurling champions. Kimberly Guilfoyle, on Fox's The Five, has friends/relatives from there and the show played about twenty seconds of match footage of there. :-) -Original

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread David Crayford
On 4/10/2013 5:30 PM, David Griffiths wrote: On 4 October 2013 06:03, Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote: Unfortunately, as many of you have pointed out in this thread, IBM/CA/BMC software is seen as the premium choice for Systems Automation software, even though

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread David Crayford
On 4/10/2013 4:53 PM, David Griffiths wrote: On 4 October 2013 04:15, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: I am not one iota interested in compiling in ASCII. I've tried that before and it's full of holes. I always end up having to manually covert code pages to do simple stuff like write

Re: FRR Recovery Routine Environment

2013-10-04 Thread Peter Relson
+1 Add one for me too. Opinions are great to share; we just try to make sure that they're based on as much reality as can be brought to bear. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread John McKown
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/04/verity_stob_unicode/ Down with Unicode! grin/ -- I have _not_ lost my mind! It is backed up on a flash drive somewhere. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-04 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: I think I rather prefer Python. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. The fact that the indentation level is significant can make things interesting when editing a program. I need to ponder that. A while

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Scott Chapman
I agree completely with what John said. The other thing I might add is that it's possible that there are utilities that companies have developed in house that therefore are owned by the corporations that don't want to release the code for free due to concerns about liability and a lack of

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Scott Chapman
I don't care for programming in Java myself, although I do from time to time. And I agree that Java is difficult to be productive in if you're not doing it every day just because there's about 6 ways to do everything. I would argue though that productivity is only partially about the language:

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-04 Thread Staller, Allan
Oops! snip Good info, but one minor 'oops'. Following is the correct link to the IP config guide. You accidentally put in the config reference in both locations. Rex http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B3B1/CCONTENTS?SHELF=f1a1bkd1DN=SC31-8775-20DT=20120119110606

Is the zVM list defunct?

2013-10-04 Thread David Booher
Does anyone know what happened to VMESA-L at MARIST.EDU? Have the users migrated elsewhere? David Booher Mainframe Systems Programmer Dell | Database Management, Quest Software office +1 630-836-3196, fax +1 630-836-4099 Quest Software is now a part of Dell

Re: Is the zVM list defunct?

2013-10-04 Thread Neil Haley
There still is a very active IBM VM list (The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.uark.edu) Regards, Neil Haley nha...@ca.ibm.com Storage Software Mainframe Support http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/ | http://www.about.me/NeilHaley From: David Booher david.boo...@software.dell.com To:

Re: Is the zVM list defunct?

2013-10-04 Thread John McKown
I use IBMVM on the uark.edu forum for z/VM information. http://listserv.uark.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=IBMVM It is fairly active. mailto:lists...@listserv.uark.edu subscribe IBMVM David Booher in the body. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:21 AM, David Booher david.boo...@software.dell.com wrote: Does

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-04 Thread John Gilmore
I find it useful to be able to write whatever: do . . . ; . . . end whatever ; in PL/I in some circumstances and to be able to write just do ; . . . end ; in others, particularly but not always for trivial, non-iterative DO groups. My point is of course that most people most of the time go to

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-04 Thread David Crayford
On 4/10/2013 8:31 PM, Pew, Curtis G wrote: A couple of years ago our shop decided to standardize on Python for non-mainframe application development, so I've written a fair amount of Python since then. My experience is that using indentation to control structure becomes second-nature very

Re: Is the zVM list defunct?

2013-10-04 Thread David Booher
thanks guys! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

SET CONSOLE every time you invoke SDSF ULOG

2013-10-04 Thread Yashshri G
Greetings All, I have designed a REXX to invoke SDSF and SET CONSOLE name automatically to a random value as follows, /* REXX */ CONNAM=SDSFRANDOM() ADDRESS ISPEXEC SELECT PGM(ISFISP) NEWAPPL(ISF)

Re: SET CONSOLE every time you invoke SDSF ULOG

2013-10-04 Thread Roberto Halais
Beware . Everytime you use a random console name it will be added to a pool of console names and the healthchecker will trigger a message when it gets too big. It happened to me and i had to delete those random names from the pool. I do not know if it has a performance impact. Maybe somebody

Re: SET CONSOLE every time you invoke SDSF ULOG

2013-10-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:06:59 -0500, Yashshri G wrote: I have designed a REXX to invoke SDSF and SET CONSOLE name automatically to a random value as follows, /* REXX */ CONNAM=SDSFRANDOM() Eek! Think

Re: SET CONSOLE every time you invoke SDSF ULOG

2013-10-04 Thread Tom Ambros
Is there any reason to change the console ID other than to your boss's ID right before you do something mischievous? Thomas Ambros Operating Systems and Connectivity Engineering 518-436-6433 From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 10/04/2013

Re: SET CONSOLE every time you invoke SDSF ULOG

2013-10-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Yashshri G wrote: I have designed a REXX to invoke SDSF and SET CONSOLE name automatically to a random value as follows, CONNAM=SDSFRANDOM() Why random? Will your RACF guy/gal still be happy? However, when I access it from split screen (second screen) the same random console value

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0561414464209067.wa.bakersmagmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 10/02/2013 at 08:32 AM, M Baker baker...@gmail.com said: Or perhaps from an alternate history perspective, whether PL/1 would have proven up to the task functionally at that point ? PL/1 proved itself to be up to the task on

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6580968401999720.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 10/02/2013 at 09:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: I ponder the portability of PL/I programs when I try to imagine the performance of SIGNED BINARY 16 on a 70xx, C would be even worse, but has anybody ever written a

Re: Standard TSO/MVS way to delete a PDS(E) member

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In jtdo49tpulmquqfrskb47g9u99hl3lv...@4ax.com, on 10/02/2013 at 06:14 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said: I wonder if there is a native MVS or TSO command to easily do this. That depends on what this is. If you are asking for a way to avoid the ENQ, that way lies damaged

Re: Standard TSO/MVS way to delete a PDS(E) member

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6305694861030557.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu, on 10/02/2013 at 10:36 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za said: Binyamin Dissen wrote: I wonder if there is a native MVS or TSO command to easily do this. What about STOW and DESERV DELETE? Yes,

Re: Standard TSO/MVS way to delete a PDS(E) member

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5292515270918238.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 10/02/2013 at 11:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 11:47:44 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: I'm curious - if the PDS is allocated with DISP=SHR, will IDCAMS use ISPF compatible ENQs to serialize the

Re: TSO REXX and GRS Commnad Output

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cc42e2f56d60f24fb8a6bcc639d1d96306ca5...@samtcasxmb13.usa.dce.usps.gov, on 10/02/2013 at 06:52 PM, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov said: We are running z/OS V1R13 and the TSO/E REXX Reference shows some Examples. I have no idea what example you were looking at, but that

Re: DSLIST in BATCH

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5320947ae02146eaadaa363b0d342...@bl2pr09mb018.namprd09.prod.outlook.com, on 10/01/2013 at 04:29 PM, Rouse, Willie wro...@co.pg.md.us said: Is there a simple way to run ISPF DSLIST as a batch TSO job? Yes. What are you trying to do by invoking DSLIST? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: NSLOOKUP on MVS vs OMVS

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In bc6b7b77ef4d5e4bb95b0559a0d6d5e1051f6b7...@mx3.state.nv.us, on 10/01/2013 at 10:50 AM, David G. Schlecht dschle...@admin.nv.gov said: Forgive me if this is obvious to everyone but me, but I$B!G(Bm seeing a difference in the way name resolution (resolver) works on MVS and OMVS. In OMVS, a

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Mark Post
On 10/3/2013 at 04:22 PM, Gord Tomlin gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com wrote: Python is an interesting, and frustrating, case. There have been ports to s390, but the custodians of the Python trunk are unwilling to accept s390 patches into their code base, and are quite hostile to the

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:57:06 -0600, Mark Post wrote: On 10/3/2013 at 04:22 PM, Gord Tomlin wrote: Python is an interesting, and frustrating, case. There have been ports to s390, but the custodians of the Python trunk are unwilling to accept s390 patches into their code base, and are quite

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Charles Mills
His points, and the points in the serious article he links to, have merit. It is easy to write UCS-2 or UTF-16 or whatever it is called code on the erroneous theory that every character is 16 bits. Hard to make the equivalent assumption with UTF-8. All you are doing with UCS-2 is making it harder

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 October 2013 12:57, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote: On 10/3/2013 at 04:22 PM, Gord Tomlin gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com wrote: Python is an interesting, and frustrating, case. There have been ports to s390, but the custodians of the Python trunk are unwilling to accept s390 patches

Re: SET CONSOLE every time you invoke SDSF ULOG

2013-10-04 Thread Jon Perryman
When you set a console name value, it is saved to the profile and becomes the default. My guess is that you aren't running your exec and just seeing the last console value set by your exec. Don't set the console to a random value. You won't be able to see who issued commands in the system log.

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:31:54 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: His points, and the points in the serious article he links to, have merit. There are several links in the article, but probably: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html Which says: ... You probably think I'm going

Re: OT - Internet App Outages

2013-10-04 Thread efinnell15
10/3 was a muddled day for Internet services. My AOL stuff was in and out most of the day(CDT) and finally calmed down in the evening and I could look at new baby pictures Plus there's gazillion new smart phones! Seems quieter today, but haven't tried anything but eMail and more Retirement

Re: Is the zVM list defunct?

2013-10-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
nha...@ca.ibm.com (Neil Haley) writes: There still is a very active IBM VM list (The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.uark.edu) note that while outbound ibm-main mailing list is gatewayed to usenet (and therefor also shows up in google groups becuase of the usenet archiving) ... its

Re: Is the zVM list defunct?

2013-10-04 Thread efinnell15
I don't know what happened. Harry Williams at Marist used to be a regular on this list and spun off MVS-OE and couple others to alleviate the pain. Maybe there will be a book someday. In a message dated 10/04/13 08:35:53 Central Daylight Time, nha...@ca.ibm.com writes: There still is a very

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Mike Schwab
Did they Python 3 released with UTF8? https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-bugs-list/2007-October/041524.html On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:57:06 -0600, Mark Post wrote: On 10/3/2013 at 04:22 PM, Gord Tomlin wrote:

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:53:57 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: Hmmm... A case for UTF-EBCDIC as a vehicle? Hmmm... So I look at the Wikipedia (yes, I know) article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-EBCDIC which says: ... an encoding based on UTF-8 (known in the specification as UTF-8-Mod)

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread John Gilmore
It is always possible to find fault with any code. They are all engineering compromises among conflicting objectives. What I have sensed in a number of posts in this thread is a mixture of anglophone bigotry and anglophone provinciality, both of them disagreeable. Most of the time and in most

Re: Automating weight and/or CP changes

2013-10-04 Thread gsg
So if we have 4 CPs and I want to turn one off on a particular LPAR, I would be able to do this with CPM by issuing a command? or If I want to change the weights because we have different settings from night/day. I can do this with CPM and either my autoops package or job scheduler?

Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread baby eklavya
Hello all , Is it possible to have multiple datasets with the same name but on different volumes authorized by adding them to APF list ? We are on Z/os 1.11 Regards, baby -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread Jake anderson
Do you intend share your Parmlib across the sysplex ? Is your Usercatalog shared ? On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:29 AM, baby eklavya baby.ekla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all , Is it possible to have multiple datasets with the same name but on different volumes authorized by adding them to APF

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-10-04 19:31, Charles Mills pisze: His points, and the points in the serious article he links to, have merit. It is easy to write UCS-2 or UTF-16 or whatever it is called code on the erroneous theory that every character is 16 bits. Hard to make the equivalent assumption with UTF-8.

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread Bob Shannon
Is it possible to have multiple datasets with the same name but on different volumes authorized by adding them to APF list ? Sure. Just specify the volser on each entry. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-10-04 21:59, baby eklavya pisze: Hello all , Is it possible to have multiple datasets with the same name but on different volumes authorized by adding them to APF list ? We are on Z/os 1.11 Regards, baby --

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread John Gilmore
Radislaw's enumeration for French France (èéçàù) is enough to make his point. It is, however, a proper subset. To write correct French one also needs at least Œ œ À Á Æ Ç È É Ê â æ ô « » John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread John Gilmore
Radoslaw, My apologies for the Radislaw. I know better, and I will not do it again.. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: TN3270 emulator application scripting

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of6b3396e7.c94acf73-on48257bf9.00206eff-48257bf9.00271...@sg.ibm.com, on 10/03/2013 at 03:05 PM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com said: I don't know enough to recommend a specific path among those I suggested, What about the choice of APA versus PSS if the terminal simulator supports

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAAJSdjh5rouFk8OV=bh9k49amwjz0zz6mh3bz3rw7foxfm9...@mail.gmail.com, on 10/03/2013 at 07:23 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: The only problem with the CBTTAPE is that it is really only for _free_ ($0.00 cost), open source type software. Some of the contributions on the CBT

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread baby eklavya
Do you intend share your Parmlib across the sysplex ? Is your Usercatalog shared ? Yes .It is shared across the sysplex ! On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.comwrote: Do you intend share your Parmlib across the sysplex ? Is your Usercatalog shared ? On

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread Jake anderson
yes - too keep dsn with the volume entry. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:49 AM, baby eklavya baby.ekla...@gmail.com wrote: Do you intend share your Parmlib across the sysplex ? Is your Usercatalog shared ? Yes .It is shared across the sysplex ! On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Jake anderson

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Charles Mills
The author's point was exactly that Unicode is NOT a DBCS. And he was not arguing against Unicode but against 16-bit Unicode as opposed to UTF-8. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Friday,

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread Viswanath Chandrasekaran
Hello,     My opinion is that if your system has more than one user catalog, and the dataset that you are trying to create has got no alias, and if the dataset can be allocated in non sms volume.. I believe the answer is yes... Apologies if my thoughts are wrong..   Regards,    Viswa..

Re: SET CONSOLE every time you invoke SDSF ULOG

2013-10-04 Thread Skip Robinson
The only technical reason I know of to manage the SDSF console name is avoid conflict with another product. In our case SMCS (native VTAM function) is set up to employ userid as the console name. So in SDSF I take my six-character userid and append SYSCLONE on each system. Only need to do it

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread Viswanath Chandrasekaran
My apologies...   I hope there is no dependency for the ds to be on a non sms volume... Regards..   Viswa... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread Jake anderson
Yes, you can have SMS and NON sms togethter in a APF list. System just needs those modules to run in supervisory state... HTH On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Viswanath Chandrasekaran mail2visw...@yahoo.com wrote: My apologies... I hope there is no dependency for the ds to be on a

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 October 2013 16:15, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Radislaw's enumeration for French France (èéçàù) is enough to make his point. It is, however, a proper subset. To write correct French one also needs at least Œ œ À Á Æ Ç È É Ê â æ ô « » At least. And probably ë, ï, ö, ü.

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 10/4/2013 4:01 PM, R.S. wrote: CH is always two-character, but Czech people have its own national letter (C with some peak, č). The c with a Haček is pronounced as tch; I had a grandfather named Souček. punctuation mark) to get results as above. Of course things are even more interesting

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7cd15d2a8f66c24ea70e04bc53ce3917323e2...@phcmpr1h.safeway01.ad.safeway.com, on 10/03/2013 at 04:23 PM, Jerry Whitteridge jerry.whitteri...@safeway.com said: We need to remember that the CBT tape products WERE the first Shareware and used in production in many shops. Every generation

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 524dc928.2080...@actionsoftware.com, on 10/03/2013 at 03:44 PM, Gord Tomlin gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com said: It is almost a certainty that the employer will retain the rights to the code, and almost as likely that the employer will deny a request to share the code publicly. No; what

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread Robert Hahne
My opinion is that if your system has more than one user catalog, and the dataset that you are trying to create has got no alias, and if the dataset can be allocated in non sms volume.. I believe the answer is yes... Apologies if my thoughts are wrong.. Its NOT Correct ! First of all , alias

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
I guess I would ask what are you trying to do? That would mean having many UNCATALOGED files. Is that what you want to do? How would you know which dataset to use? And what happens if you use a catalog entry when you needed something on a different volume? Lizette -Original

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 17:19:44 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: To say nothing of y+diaeresis U+00FF, which carries the strange baggage of having its lower case version ÿ in ISO 8859-1 (and CP 037, 1047, and so on), but finding its upper case version Ÿ languishing in the higher reaches of the Unicode BMP

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-04 Thread zMan
pedanticNot to be confused with the language PL/I. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 0561414464209067.wa.bakersmagmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 10/02/2013 at 08:32 AM, M Baker baker...@gmail.com said: Or perhaps from an

Re: Quote on Slashdot.org

2013-10-04 Thread zMan
Oops, forgot to close the tag... On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:50 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: pedanticNot to be confused with the language PL/I. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In

Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?

2013-10-04 Thread Ed Gould
Let's not forget IBM did so as well. CE's (and others) used to carry reel tapes along with them. These tapes carries some nice surprises. They were (I think written by IBMers ) and got wide distribution to customers. There were of course the FDP's IBM even had a manual with those listed. I

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 October 2013 19:29, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Similar concerns apply to diacritics; they can drastically alter semantics. The Spanish word for year is año. It's important not to neglect the tilde; you get a very different word. (Are there similar examples in other

Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-04 Thread Ed Gould
Lizette: Well it could be a sys1 (with multiple mastercats) (technically they are cataloged correctly on each system) Ed On Oct 4, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: I guess I would ask what are you trying to do? That would mean having many UNCATALOGED files. Is that what you

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Charles Mills
prohibits names that are not valid UTF-8 What is an example of a name that is not valid UTF-8? Names that include Tangut or Klingon characters? Or do you mean broken UTF-8 that contains bytes (NOT characters) that are not valid UTF-8, or the first byte of a 2-byte sequence but not the second?

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 October 2013 19:29, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Many operating systems nowadays welcome files named in the UTF-8 character set (notable exceptions are z/OS and z/VM). OS X will let me name files in the Finder GUI in Greek, Hebrew, Cyrillic, ... But the GUI complains and

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread John Gilmore
Charles Mills wrote | The author's point was exactly | that Unicode is NOT a DBCS. My point was that mostly it is a DBCS; and I made that clear, clear enough even for most people for whom English is a 2nd language. Systematic misunderstanding is a tedious rhetorical device. John Gilmore,

Re: OT? A cause to join, but somewhat humorous

2013-10-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 17:25:27 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: prohibits names that are not valid UTF-8 What is an example of a name that is not valid UTF-8? Names that include Tangut or Klingon characters? Or do you mean broken UTF-8 that contains bytes (NOT characters) that are not valid UTF-8, or

Fwd: SMPTABL data set severe error

2013-10-04 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello, I am getting below error, while invoking SMPE panel. SMP/E INITIALIZATION ERROR === *** * * * The following error was detected while attempting to * * initialize