Re: Linux Without Limits: IBM Launch LinuxONE Mainframes

2015-08-18 Thread Martin Packer
I'm not aware that we've announced a follow on to z12 BC so I would assume so. Jim Elliott follows this newsgroup so will probably want to wade in at some point. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM

Re: Linux Without Limits: IBM Launch LinuxONE Mainframes

2015-08-18 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:47:07 -0600, Mark Post wrote: That has never been the case. We have always supported installing on z/VM or in an LPAR. Hmmm - I was sure I had a migration doc that said z/VM was now required for the install scripts (rather than just recommended). My bad maybe. Shane

Re: Linux Without Limits: IBM Launch LinuxONE Mainframes

2015-08-18 Thread Jon Butler
It seems to me this is another abstraction layer that would enable an instance of bare-metal Linux to spool up multiple instances in an LPAR without z/VM. What would the effect be of running KVM in a Linux instance under z/VM? And of course PR/SM is still dispatching logical IFLs onto real

Re: Linux Without Limits: IBM Launch LinuxONE Mainframes

2015-08-18 Thread Mark Post
On 8/18/2015 at 08:43 AM, Jon Butler butler@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me this is another abstraction layer that would enable an instance of bare-metal Linux to spool up multiple instances in an LPAR without z/VM. That's the whole purpose of KVM, on any architecture. What would

Re: Interesting information in blog post by Tom Rosamilia, SVP IBM

2015-08-18 Thread Linda
IMHO, not uploading the presentation tends to dilute the message. Being able to share the keynote presentation slides with the management back at the shop would be much more effective than just being able to share your own attendee notes. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:21

Re: Interesting information in blog post by Tom Rosamilia, SVP IBM

2015-08-18 Thread Mark Post
On 8/18/2015 at 12:46 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Your last point is substantially true but the villain if you will is not SHARE. SHARE does not upload anyone's presentations. The speakers do or do not upload handouts, Being a speaker, I understand that. I also understand that

Re: Interesting information in blog post by Tom Rosamilia, SVP IBM

2015-08-18 Thread Charles Mills
Agree with your last point 100%. I often want to go back and look up things like I know he said something about a lot of customers running Linux -- what EXACTLY did he say? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark

Re: Linux Without Limits: IBM Launch LinuxONE Mainframes

2015-08-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6233245832691859.wa.butler.jongmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/18/2015 at 07:43 AM, Jon Butler butler@gmail.com said: What would the effect be of running KVM in a Linux instance under z/VM? And of course PR/SM is still dispatching logical IFLs onto real IFLs...or are we eliminating

Re: Compare 2 DFsms SCDS's?

2015-08-18 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
Minoru, Thanks for your info. Comparing appears to be quite complicated. I have a 'current' and 'new' SCDS, which I expected to be the same, but they are not. I have a reasonable idea of where the differences will be, so altogether I think comparing the SMS constructs will give me the

Re: Compare 2 DFsms SCDS's?

2015-08-18 Thread Neil Duffee
Kees: I, too, found that a simple SuperC of even the DCollect output wasn't helpful because it requires comparison at the byte level. That loses which record the delta is from since SuperC only reports the byte offset from the beginning of the file. (or, at least, *I* don't know how to

Re: Miniskirts and mainframes

2015-08-18 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
JimP solosa...@gmail.com writes: Interesting. The main contractor told us it was due to the teraflops it could do, a YMP-2. I worked for a sub-contractor. IBM Kingston supposedly had the responsibility for doing new supercomputer ... also was providing to Chen's endevor (responsible for both

Re: Compare 2 DFsms SCDS's?

2015-08-18 Thread Minoru Massaki
As far as I know, there is no good way to compare with ACS routines automatically. I only compared with two SMS configuration based on SMS Configuration Report produced by NaviQuest batch job. I compared Base Configuration, SMS constructs, Tape Library definition, DASD volumes (SG), and accounting

Re: Resolving EXTRN References

2015-08-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-08-18 15:37, Cali zMan wrote: I can't get some EXTRN variables to resolve at link-edit time. Prog1 has: VAR1 DC A(Equate1) VAR2 DC A(Equate2) Need to declare them as ENTRY. Prog2 (separate CSECT, source file, etc.) wanting to reference those variables, has:

Re: Resolving EXTRN References

2015-08-18 Thread Cali zMan
Yep, adding the ENTRY statement fixed it. Not sure how I missed its necessity. Thanks to Paul and Charles for chiming in. Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 15:55:19 -0600 From: 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Resolving EXTRN References To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Resolving EXTRN References

2015-08-18 Thread Charles Mills
Do you have ENTRY VAR1,VAR2 in Prog1? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cali zMan Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Resolving EXTRN References I can't get some EXTRN

Resolving EXTRN References

2015-08-18 Thread Cali zMan
I can't get some EXTRN variables to resolve at link-edit time. Prog1 has: VAR1DC A(Equate1) VAR2DC A(Equate2) Prog2 (separate CSECT, source file, etc.) wanting to reference those variables, has: EXTRN VAR1 EXTRN VAR2 ... VAR1E DC A(VAR1) VAR2E DC

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Rob Schramm
Soldier of Fortran site had links to all this. I don't think any of the information is new. Rob Schramm On Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 7:15 PM Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Really. In 2012 Logica, a mainframe service bureau in Sweden, suffered a disastrous hack that involved government agency

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Meir Zohar
Phil Young has been doing these talks for several years and some of the tools are posted on his Soldier of Fortran site. He is absolutely correct in that some sites are complacent in their the mainframe is secure attitude and that, like every other platform, z/OS requires a continuous

Re: Resolving EXTRN References

2015-08-18 Thread Charles Mills
Different from C, where you use extern on both ends. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cali zMan Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Resolving EXTRN References

Re: Resolving EXTRN References

2015-08-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4431566099938040.wa.calizman1outlook@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/18/2015 at 04:37 PM, Cali zMan calizm...@outlook.com said: I can't get some EXTRN variables to resolve at link-edit time. Where are your external references in program 1? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Robert Harrison
From technologyreview.com: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainframe-computers-that-handle-our-most-sensitive-data-are-open-to-internet-attacks/ Really? Robert Harrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Mark Post
On 8/18/2015 at 06:26 PM, Robert Harrison robert.harri...@omes.ok.gov wrote: From technologyreview.com: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainframe-computers-that-handle- our-most-sensitive-data-are-open-to-internet-attacks/ Really? Yes, really. Phil Young isn't the only

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Mark Post
On 8/18/2015 at 06:26 PM, Robert Harrison robert.harri...@omes.ok.gov wrote: From technologyreview.com: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/540011/mainframe-computers-that-handle- our-most-sensitive-data-are-open-to-internet-attacks/ It's fun to read the comments on that article,

Re: Mainframes open to internet attacks?

2015-08-18 Thread Charles Mills
Really. In 2012 Logica, a mainframe service bureau in Sweden, suffered a disastrous hack that involved government agency files, credit cards, and social security numbers. The entry was via an online legal database that was accessible via browser from the Internet, and which turned out to be

C extern was RE: Resolving EXTRN References

2015-08-18 Thread Webster, Chris
There is still supposed to be a definition in C that does NOT have extern specified. It is quite common to just use extern declarations and most compilers account for this. Quoting IBM: An extern declaration makes the described variable usable by the succeeding part of the current source

Re: C extern was RE: Resolving EXTRN References

2015-08-18 Thread Charles Mills
I guess you're right. I actually write C++, where extern is necessary to do more or less what ENTRY does in assembler, and no, I can't cite chapter and verse but I just commented out an extern keyword on a definition and the link failed unresolved. Obviously in any language you need a definition

Re: Compare 2 DFsms SCDS's?

2015-08-18 Thread Minoru Massaki
Hi Kees-san, Before making DFSORT jobs for comparing with two SMS configuration reports, I compared with two DCOLLECT SMS data extracted from SCDSs. Comparing fields are different by each record type. For example, in case of DC (data class), compared fields in DCOLLECT data are following.

Re: Interesting information in blog post by Tom Rosamilia, SVP IBM

2015-08-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:47:25 -0500, John McKown wrote: I don't remember the information quoted below being said before. From: http://asmarterplanet.com/blog/2015/08/ibms-big-bet-open-source-economy.html quote More than a third of our mainframe clients today are running Linux. /quote I wonder

Re: Interesting information in blog post by Tom Rosamilia, SVP IBM

2015-08-18 Thread Bruce Lightsey
Gil asked an interesting question : I wonder what fraction of their total workloads this represents? In our case, it is about 17% of the load on our z114 and close to 70% of the load on our zEC12. The 12 (40IFL, 5CP, 5zIIP) is running SAP with the servers on Linux on zVM and DB2 on zOS. The

Interesting information in blog post by Tom Rosamilia, SVP IBM

2015-08-18 Thread John McKown
I don't remember the information quoted below being said before. From: http://asmarterplanet.com/blog/2015/08/ibms-big-bet-open-source-economy.html quote More than a third of our mainframe clients today are running Linux. /quote -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown

Re: Interesting information in blog post by Tom Rosamilia, SVP IBM

2015-08-18 Thread Charles Mills
Your last point is substantially true but the villain if you will is not SHARE. SHARE does not upload anyone's presentations. The speakers do or do not upload handouts, and in my experience, SHARE and otherwise, the big deal speakers never do. I think they think it helps keep the formula for their

IBM z/OS Product Documentation Survey Extended until 8/20/15

2015-08-18 Thread Iris Rivera
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OT Job Posting - Senior Mainframe Network Engineer

2015-08-18 Thread White, Andy
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cross-posting CICS job opening listing

2015-08-18 Thread Barkow, Eileen
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Re: Interesting information in blog post by Tom Rosamilia, SVP IBM

2015-08-18 Thread Mark Post
On 8/18/2015 at 09:47 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: I don't remember the information quoted below being said before. From: http://asmarterplanet.com/blog/2015/08/ibms-big-bet-open-source-economy.html quote More than a third of our mainframe clients today are