Steve Thompson writes:
A migration was proposed to translate (using an IBM utility) an
ISV’s code to COBOL (~NOV2013). The problem is, the group that
has the translation tool had NO idea about COBOL 5.1, and
apparently had no plans to make their tool COBOL 5.1 friendly (as
in, NOT using new
Generally these outsourcing services are not sold as we can charge you less
because we hire ill trained young Indians to replace your experienced
technical people! They are more likely to be sold using a combination of
wages for well trained technical people in India are much lower than
One of the things I notice - and it can come from anyone anywhere but it's
more common with newer people - is an ill-defined problem statement.
The temptation to wordsmith the problem into shape is immense and not
wrong. It can feel a bit brutal and ugly sometimes but bear with us: We're
It is a while since there had been any discussion of appropriate values of
RESMIL and its effect on CPU consumptiom. It appears that there was general
concensus that RESMIL(OFF) would be a bad idea, and that RESMIL(0) would be
best since it should be managed dynamically.
In a 3-LPAR plex with
In 3186ca10-04ab-4743-b8da-d87a8e8a7...@comcast.net, on 04/21/2014
at 09:50 AM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net said:
On Apr 21, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
---SNIP
IDCAMS is just a utility that was included with
In
of87d06c78.43f4a289-on80257cc2.002a9f6c-80257cc2.002c3...@uk.ibm.com,
on 04/22/2014
at 09:02 AM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com said:
VIO has, in any case, been seen as CPU expensive. Because it's
simulating a device. I would, however, quite like to see VIO in
Memory reborn - with
I don't disagree: I didn't really talk implementation but I want to see
very large temp data sets in memory, controlled via DFSMS and not too
expensive. First step is very large IMHO but recast to be cheaper in CPU
terms at the same time would be welcome.
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of DASDBILL2
At least we still have decent technical publications from some vendors.
Here's an example of what we
might expect in 10 more years of dumbing down:
The displacement for LA is, like, treated as, ya
Dude! That is, like, so awesomely kewl!
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of DASDBILL2
At least we still have decent technical publications from some vendors.
Here's an example
In
985166dbd01445be809d22441b29b...@db3pr02mb219.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com,
on 04/23/2014
at 08:47 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
vignesh.v.sankaranaraya...@marks-and-spencer.com said:
and most of the experts just say - R.T.F.M
If it's not important enough to you to justify consulting the
I will do the RTFM response. But, in my defense, I will usually try to
include a URL to the proper FM to R. At times, I will even try to quote a
paragraph or two. Now, my usual response to a question which, to me,
implies an abysmal lack of knowledge (Something on the order of I'm trying
to
In
8231196036238745.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu,
on 04/22/2014
at 07:39 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
I agree with John, it is a sorry state, do you remember the very
high-valued IBM-MAIN member who has to close his training business?
That
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 19:45:44 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
vignesh.v.sankaranaraya...@marks-and-spencer.com wrote:
I imagine this is the norm for today because a well-educated, intelligent,
worker costs a lot more than a pre-programmed drone.
As a result, the industry is now flooded with
As far as I know, the supported method to copy dumps is using IPCS copy dump.
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieac500/cpydump.htm
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r13/topic/com.ibm.zos.r13.ieac500/cpydump.htm
Copy dump can be invoked by batch jcl or via
Now, my usual response to a question which, to me, implies an abysmal lack of
knowledge (Something on the order of I'm trying to install z/OS and need to
know what JOB card used for.), my usual response is ... silence.
Yeah.. That's like, totally unacceptable. Totally. Yeah.
- Vignesh
Possibly the EC12's Flash memory, which come in huge chunks of relatively cheap
memory, can help speed up the process of having dozens TBs of temporary
datasets in memory.
Kees.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of
Kind of obvious that it's to be expected. And what a convenient way to call it
- resentment.
The point is, they don't stand up for the tech folks when under fire.
A: I can do x (truth is, they can do only 0.2x and they know it)
B: Sold. Here's my business.
.
On the day of a problem
.
A: Hey!
Hi,
How can I get allocation attribs for an existing dataset? PRI/SEC Space,
space unit (CYL,TRKS,etc), DIR (in case of PDS)
Where are these informations stored? Do you have any example ASM code for
it?
Regards,
Gabor
--
For
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
vignesh.v.sankaranaraya...@marks-and-spencer.com wrote:
Kind of obvious that it's to be expected. And what a convenient way to
call it - resentment.
The point is, they don't stand up for the tech folks when under fire.
A: I can do
APAR PM88048 contains this information:
IGZ0264S There was an attempt to run both OS/VS COBOL and Enterprise COBOL V5
programs in the same enclave.
Explanation: OS/VS COBOL programs can not be run in the same enclave where
Enterprise COBOL V5 programs are also running.
Programmer Response:
There are utilities (e.g. DSAT) on the CBT tape that do this, but you will need
RACF authority to open/read each PDS directory.
Regards,
John K
dsat 'almsa.anscopy' pds sec
SERIAL ALLOCFREE EXT SEC UNITS DSORG DIRADIRUENTR AL
RLIB90
Ah, yes, I was thinking more about a single, specific DSN. But I do use
IEHLIST, still, to get the allocation information for all the DSNs on an
entire volume. I also like to use DFDSS to get a volume map of how the
tracks on a volume are physically used. This is a DEFRAG run with the
xD
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 06:53:56 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
wrote:
Dude! That is, like, so awesomely kewl!
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of DASDBILL2
From the description that sounds like IBM Migration Utility - Converts CA
Easytrieve to 'COBOL'. None of the doc I could find specified what level of
'COBOL' was produced though...
Dana
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:44:12 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote:
Which IBM utility?
The REXX function LISTDSI will provide a lot of details on a PDS.
However, if the PDS is migrated, that information will not be available.
So you are looking for on DASD PDS or Migrated PDS Information or Both?
Is there some specific report you are looking for?
There are many ways to do
John,
ugh, I guess like yourself and many others on here I am old school. Expert pay
for expert job.
Repect is right there with it also, maybe its my irish heritage.
Regards,
Scott
From: John McKown
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:05 AM
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion
On 4/23/2014 8:56 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
Are we supposed to magically grow skills when it's known that there's a massive
competency gap?
I think I digress ...
In the sixties I was a competent ForTran and assembler (FAP and MAP)
programmer on the 700/7000 series, with
If common core standards are igniting education, both the students and the
taxpayers are going to get burned.
Vacation Notice:
4/17-4/22/2014
5/8-5/12/2014
8/18-9/1/2014
Tom Puddicombe
Principal Systems Engineer
Mainframe Performance Capacity Planning
CSC
31 Brookdale Rd, Meriden, CT
The article which started this discussion suggested that people be given 10%
free time to explore the systems and to learn by doing.
Once again, decisions are made, which make it extremely difficult to put in
that time for personal development.
I got into REXX just a month after I learnt what a
In 5960275020768726.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
04/21/2014
at 11:58 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
What do PDSE and the (obsolescent) HFS use?
I believe that while they are CI formatted and use the Media Manager,
they are not VSAM.
What about paging and JES? Do
True, but there are so many other reasons why code that old should have
already been migrated and re-compiled on a newer COBOL compiler sometime
in the last three decades. If you've got many OS/VS COBOL load modules
still lying around you've potentially got so many other problems:
inability to
On 4/22/2014 4:58 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
Linux (on x86_64) has been doing it forever - goes even further, allowing
reference to a 32 Gig heap rather than just 4 Gig.
z/OS Java compressed references also go to 32G. (The USE2GTO32G= keyword
on the IARV64 macro should provide valuable insight
We are still running OS/VS Cobol with Report Writer.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org wrote:
True, but there are so many other reasons why code that old should have
already been migrated and re-compiled on a newer COBOL compiler sometime
in the last three decades.
On 22 April 2014 19:01, Mark Yuhas mark.yu...@paccar.com wrote:
Bear with me. I have an old program that copies a SVC Dump to regular data
set with a non-system DSN. It has been working for many years. I need to
make a few changes for the current configuration of z/OS 1.13. IPCS accepts
Allan:
I agree with you. Its the critical thinking skills. Some can be taught and
others I feel are in-breed.
Regards,
Scott
From: Staller, Allan
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:15 AM
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
I do no denigrate anyone for lack of knowledge. I
I learned via PMR that Rational Developer for System z (RDz)
.v9.x (latest greatest) does not officially support
Enterprise COBOL v5.1.
SNIPPAGE
Ooops, sorry about that too. RDz development might not know that=20
we in COBOL are planning to add support to COBOL =E2=80=A6
SNIPPAGE
-
I work with a good number of new and new to the task folks. Many have looked
for doc before posting anywhere, but they often are also unfamiliar with
finding the books (PDFs) online. Google throws up a lot of distractions along
with the good stuff.
I first heard about the following technique
Yes! That's one of the most useful tricks.
That and site:share.org
- Vignesh
Mainframe admin
On Apr 23, 2014 8:29:54 PM, Linda linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote:
I work with a good number of new and new to the task folks. Many have looked
for doc before posting anywhere, but they often are also
I received a system with Supersession installed. As far as I know the
administrator roight are received by the firt user logging on Supersession,
which is normally the installer.
My problem is I am not the installer, but I need to administrate Supersession.
The logon is managed by RACF. Is it a
FWIW, I always go to the manuals first(hard copy, personal CD/DVD collections,
IBM internet documentation). Next, I Google. And if all else fails, then this
list.
--- linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote:
From: Linda linda.lst...@comcast.net
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
When I first started, my peers and I were required to put in an hour of
study/training time every day. We also had to keep a log of what we
studied/learned. Deep and wide skill sets are developed that way.
Now it has changed drastically. They are willing to hire a contractor for more
money,
Let me address a bunch of questions all at once (as much as I am allowed).
To my knowledge at this point (as I am writing this) we do not have any lost
source. It all matches. It all went through Y2K remediation.
We do have a problem with CICS/TS 5.1.
We do have a problem with people not
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 13:33:12 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote:
Tom Marchant writes:
The design of XPLINK and XPLINK-64 currently precludes the mixing of
the two.
Are you asking that LE support and facilitate 31-bit/64-bit thunking?
Have you raised that requirement yet?
I have not submitted a
There are a couple of good SHARE write-ups and you can always go to the IBM
manuals (this one is z/OS 1.11) :
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.hasa300/sctcpip.htm
Brian Westerman
Syzygy Incorporated
On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 11:43:28 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
:
:OK. I stand corrected. PERMC appeared in z/OS 2.1; we have only 1.13.
:But that's reported in RESULT, which I failed to check; allocation messages
:go to the terminal; S99MSG is never set.
I guess you will need to wait for 2.1. If not
In z/OS 2.1, the list of parameters:
Relationship to other parameters
z/OS MVS JCL Reference
SA23-1385-00
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieab600/iea3b6_Relationship_to_other_parameters.htm
... compatible with DD */DD DATA (newly) includes
Maybe IBM decided that XPLINK should be the only - or preferred -
linkage method in the future, because standard linkage is considered
too expensive esspecially for small functions and inlining is not always
possible?
And this is done to force the users to migrate to XPLINK
when switching to
It's really simple, I always tell my younger colleagues: If you're willing to
stay in the office after work hours, I'll stay with you and show/help you with
a few things, and where to find more information. If not, don't expect me to
interrupt my work to do yours.
Some do, some don't, so
Hi,
Do you know ISPF?
Regards
Roger
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Gabor Hoffer
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:58 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Inquire SPACE/DIR allocation attributes
Hi,
How can I
As it happens (in my personal view) I agree with you, Tom. But I also agree
that IBM should focus first on what its current and prospective customers
want. In the fullest meaning of want. That is, I agree with the late
Steve Jobs that customers often don't know what they want in large part
because
Still wondering which IBM utility. Even if this forum is an unofficial
channel, it's hard to fix an unknown gap.
To reiterate, if you're still on Enterprise COBOL 4.2 (for whatever
reasons), make sure the migration PTF (APAR PM85873) is installed in
Enterprise COBOL 4.2 and compile with FLAGMIG4.
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