Re: History of Mainframe Cloud

Lizette Koehler wrote: Multiple users were capable of accessing a central computer through dumb terminals, whose only function was to provide access to the mainframe. "A Conversation with Michael Cowlishaw", Dr. Dobb's Journal, March 1, 1996

Git: Re: New free / open source z/OS tools from Dovetailed Technologies

On 13/01/2017 5:56 AM, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Can you give a bit more detail on how you are utilizing this Ant SSH process? I don't know anything about Ant. I am thinking/wondering how it might be used in conjunction with Git for source code management of z/OS COBOL programs (and jobs). I

Re: AW: What is subsystem function code No. 39 and what does it do?

On 12 January 2017 at 04:10, Giliad Wilf <00d50942efa9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > This macro only describes a layout of an extension to the SSOB for the > service requested. > Yet, the "Using the Subsystem Interface" manual neither lists this function > with services you can

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

I think that SDB can't decide on a BLKSIZE when LRECL=0. In any case, for a Program Object PDSE, the BLKSIZE is nearly irrelevant. PDSEs always use a physical record length of 4K. For non-PO PDSEs, the nominal BLKSIZE is faked up for you as needed. Use SDB (0) when you have an LRECL, and 32K-8

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:24:57 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >I just used Option 3.2 and allocated a PDSE with LRECL 80 and Blksize 0 with >Version 2 (z/OS V2.1) > >No issues - it took it fine and the Blksize is 32760. > Did you populate it by copying a load module to a program object? FWIW, I

Cobol and PreCompile for CICS and DB2

>Does anyone remember when the Cobol Compiler could do the PreCompile >function for CICS or DB2 without running the actual standalone >step for Precompile? Yes, it started with COBOL V2R2 in 2000 with the SQL compiler option, then was continued in 2001 with the CICS option in COBOL V3R1. Both

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:21 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SDB and Program Object Library > > On 2017-01-12 06:51, Allan Staller wrote:

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

It may not be your ACS routines. I can reproduce this behavior on a "test" LPAR when allocating a PDSE in ISPF 3.2 with RECFM=U. I get the warning message to either DELETE or KEEP the dataset. If I keep it, I can't copy Load modules or program objects into then newly created

Re: delete old datasets

Do you really want to delete a migrated dataset after only 1 year? Migration has already freed the disk space. At our site, we frequently needed to restore datasets that were several years old when an old customer would return to the fold. Do you really want to delete the backup copy of a

Re: New free / open source z/OS tools from Dovetailed Technologies

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Frank Swarbrick < frank.swarbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > ... it would be useful to use Eclipse to update the source code on the local > workstation and just send it (perhaps using this Ant SSH interface?) to > z/OS to be compiled. Or something like that! >

Re: delete old datsets

Properly implement SMS. And then expiration happens according to business need. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Ron Thomas > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:28 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject:

Re: History of Mainframe Cloud

re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017.html#21 History of Mainframe Cloud Les sent me this CP40/CMS presentation that he gave at '82 SEAS meeting, and let me scan, OCR and put it up http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/cp40seas1982.txt a copy is also in the appendix of Melinda's (neuall.pdf) VM history

Re: New free / open source z/OS tools from Dovetailed Technologies

Can you give a bit more detail on how you are utilizing this Ant SSH process? I don't know anything about Ant. I am thinking/wondering how it might be used in conjunction with Git for source code management of z/OS COBOL programs (and jobs). I know that Rocket is releasing a z/OS version of

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

On 2017-01-12 14:23, Allan Staller wrote: > Allocation > > Do these ACS routines operate > o at data set creation? > o at OPEN? > o Both? > "Allocation" is dismayingly ambiguous. But I assume you mean allocation as in DISP=NEW ratner than allocation as in DISP=OLD. Data Set Utility tells me:

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

AFAIK, ACS code and allocation results are hidden from ordinary users except in the observed allocation itself. Again AFAIK, only storage admins have access to any logging (if any) that ACS routines may do. My unfortunate experience has been that ordinary users are not considered smart

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

Actually, I might suggest using TEST under the ISMF function in ISPF. But for verbose, you would need to get your friendly Storage Admin to add WRITE Statements to the SMS routines. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: delete old datsets

Then as others have pointed out Catalog Search Interface to create a list of potential datasets. A second process to parse the information and build your IDCAMS - DELETE or DFDSS Delete HSM BDELETE or HDEL commands Or you could look at a tool that could do this more easily. There is not one

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

Allocation On 2017-01-12 06:51, Allan Staller wrote: > Bad ACS routuines? > Do these ACS routines operate o at data set creation? o at OPEN? o Both? Is there a way for an affected user to determine what effect these ACS routines have? Something like a "verbose" option? NO > > Is there

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

On 2017-01-12 06:51, Allan Staller wrote: > Bad ACS routuines? > Do these ACS routines operate o at data set creation? o at OPEN? o Both? Is there a way for an affected user to determine what effect these ACS routines have? Something like a "verbose" option? > > Is there any rationale to

Re: delete old datsets

Hi Lizette - At this point of time it is fine for me to get deleted DISK & HSM Migrated datasets . Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: delete old datsets

Consider using IBM DCOLLECT for primary-DASD/DFHSM-migrated dataset inventory and couple that (output) with now DFSORT-supported utility reporting to filter and generate any required post-processing batch-execution commands. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc.

Re: delete old datasets

Depending on what you are trying to do you might consider writing some REXX code that uses the catalog search interface (IGGCSI00) program. You could then create the needed jobs to delete the datasets. Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: delete old datsets

Ron, Let me know if I understand To delete OLD Datasets that reside on TAPE DISK HSM Migrated HSM Backup Does this cover it? If it does, you basically are asking to clean up any dataset that meets a criteria of your chosing. You probably will need to use the CATALOG SEARCH INTERFACE, to

Re: delete old datsets

Looks like this is not pulling migrated datasets . So how we can also included migrated datasets in to this list of datasets to get deleted ? Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: delete old datsets

I'll chime in, as another poster said, FDREPROT is a good tool for reporting on all sorts of conditions dealing with data sets. FDREPORT can report on DASD as well as tape data sets. In addition, FDREPORT can generate whatever kind of utility JCL/control cards you prefer to use for deleting the

Re: delete old datsets

I recommend CR+ from Rocket Software, self-serving as that is. It would make this fairly easy. sas On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Ron Thomas wrote: > Ok thanks . so whether this utility will delete Tape and archived datasets > ? Thanks! > >

AW: What is subsystem function code No. 39 and what does it do?

>Is there any discussion per function code No. 39 somewhere? >From an old "orange book" titles "The Subsystem Interface in MVS/SP Version 3" >(GG66-3131-00): Function codes 7, 16, 17, 18, 19, 38, and 39 are the codes to build a subsystem that supports the SUBSYS= keyword in DD allocations.

New free / open source z/OS tools from Dovetailed Technologies

Today we have released several new free / open source tools on our website: See the new "Community" page at: http://dovetail.com Some highlights: *Ant SSH* is a set of enhanced SSH tasks for Apache Ant. For many years we have used a workstation IDE (Eclipse) as a code editor for C/C++,

Re: delete old datsets

Ok thanks . so whether this utility will delete Tape and archived datasets ? Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: EXTERNAL: History of Mainframe Cloud

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Phil Smith wrote: > >VM's roots are in CP-67, which goes back to 1968 or so. > > And CP-40 before that. See http://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/ > Melinda/neuvm.pdf for the real scoop! > > There were giants in those days... > ...in which class I

Re: Problems installing Suse Linux under zpdt.

>>> On 1/12/2017 at 04:17 AM, Itschak Mugzach wrote: > I am trying to install Suse linux 12 SP2 on a zPDT native.I using > instruction from a redbook titled The Virtualization Cookbook for SLES > 11 which has instructions for SLES 12 as well. > > The problem I face is a

Re: EXTERNAL: History of Mainframe Cloud

>VM's roots are in CP-67, which goes back to 1968 or so. And CP-40 before that. See http://www.leeandmelindavarian.com/Melinda/neuvm.pdf for the real scoop! There were giants in those days... ...in which class I don't consider myself, but for laughs, look at PDF page 107 for a VERY old picture

Re: delete old datsets

Hi Ron, If you are licensed for DFSMSdss you could use our logical data set DUMP with the DELETE keyword. It can select data sets based on physical characteristics, including creation date as reported in the VTOC. In this case your output dump data set would be a DUMMY DD. Something like:

Re: delete old datsets

Better yet! I've not played with ADRDSSU for so long I didn't know it had the functionality very nice - Original Message - From: "Todd Burrell" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:33:51 PM Subject: Re: delete old datsets Try

Re: delete old datsets

Try playing around with DFDSS with JCL like this and DEFINITELY test with TYPRUN=NORUN before running it live. //CATCLEAN EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=8M //SYSUT2 DD DUMMY

Re: delete old datsets

if you have a DASD reporting tool, and a report writer (SAS or WPS) you can run, for example an FDR report based on your criteria, feed the results to SAS for example and create the idcams or iehprog control cards and call that program from SAS or WPS I've done this batch on a weekly basis

delete old datsets

Hi . Could some one let me know how to delete old datasets SPXR3V.TEST.*say 1 year old old using a job ? I need to get this scheduled as a monthly process so that storage gets freed. Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: VSAM: Why MAXLRECL?

Write the records to thee total size(including reserved). Example. 500 bytes of data and 500 bytes "reserved" If the record written is 1000 bytes long, but you are only using the 1st 500 bytes, up to 500 bytes of additional information could be added to the record, without having to alter the

Re: History of Mainframe Cloud

stars...@mindspring.com (Lizette Koehler) writes: > https://www.ibm.com/blogs/cloud-computing/2014/03/a-brief-history-of-cloud-compu > ting-3/ > > After some time, around 1970, the concept of virtual machines (VMs) > was created. mid-60s, some of the CTSS people went to 5th flr to do MULTICS ...

Re: EXTERNAL: History of Mainframe Cloud

VM's roots are in CP-67, which goes back to 1968 or so. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: History of

Re: Cobol and PreCompile for CICS and DB2

We use CALL 'CBLTDLI' rather than EXEC DLI, but if we did use EXEC DLI I agree that this forcing of NODYNAM would be quite an irritant! Sounds like an RFE might be in order. As for NORENT, I don't think we've used that since before COBOL II! (In other words, before my time.) Frank

Re: VSAM: Why MAXLRECL?

Are you suggesting to actually write the records to be the size including the "reserved" data, or to write the records of the size currently needed but have MAXLRECL defined so that records larger than are currently used can be written in the future? I was thinking the latter, but I want to

Re: EXTERNAL: History of Mainframe Cloud

H - Pretty sure z/VM and its predecessors predated VMWare ! Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe Systems & Storage Albertsons - Safeway Inc. 925 738 9443 Corporate Tieline - 89443 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

History of Mainframe Cloud

https://www.ibm.com/blogs/cloud-computing/2014/03/a-brief-history-of-cloud-compu ting-3/ When we think of cloud computing, we think of situations, products and ideas that started in the 21st century. This is not exactly the whole truth. Cloud concepts have existed for many years. Here, I will

Re: Is it really possible to migrate Mainframe to Cloud ??

So, is not the mainframe a "CLOUD" before Cloud was used? I seem to remember some papers/articles extolling the wonders of the Mainframe as a Cloud before cloud http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/solutions/hybrid-cloud/index.html

Re: Is it really possible to migrate Mainframe to Cloud ??

Absolutely!! Mitch McCluhan mitc...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Peter To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Thu, Jan 12, 2017 10:02 am Subject: Is it really possible to migrate Mainframe to Cloud ?? Hi Just found this link thought I can

Re: Is it really possible to migrate Mainframe to Cloud ??

This is not a mainframe anymore. What's the difference between that and some tens of re-hosting / re-engineering solutions? on premise or cloud, this is the same solution with new name. some of the solutions sounds like a mainframe, but they don't walk and sound like. I am not saying re-hosting is

Re: Is it really possible to migrate Mainframe to Cloud ??

Yes, it is! The only trick is to put a mainframe in a cloud. BTW: There is no cloud. It's just someone else's computer. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata.

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

IMHO it is plain stupid, but "it works as documented". Dot. End of discussion. Any documented stupidity is authorised to remain unchanged. I wish I would have SDB for DSORG=PO,RECFM=U with the value of 32760. All exceptions could be solved with providing explicit BLKSIZE value. BTW: I can't

Re: Cobol and PreCompile for CICS and DB2

On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:15:37 -0600, David Magee wrote: >The last time I looked into doing that we had problems because certain >scenarios were not supported using the >integrated translator during the >compile step. EXCI applications are what come to mind off the

Re: IBMLink and ShopZ

I had to clear my cookies for ibm.com yesterday, maybe that can help, you can test by starting a private browser session; if that works, clear your cookies. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Dunlap Sent:

Re: Is it really possible to migrate Mainframe to Cloud ??

Without reading the article, the mainframe is an ideal cloud platform. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Is it really possible to

Is it really possible to migrate Mainframe to Cloud ??

Hi Just found this link thought I can share https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/yes-you-can-migrate-your-mainframe-cloud-stephen-orban Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

IBMLink and ShopZ

Having trouble trying to logon onto both IBMLink and ShopZ. When I enter user ID and password then hit "Signin" it just sits there, no movement at all. -- Regards, Thomas DunlapChief Technology Officert...@themisinc.com Themis, Inc.http://www.themisinc.com908 400-6485

Re: Cobol and PreCompile for CICS and DB2

The last time I looked into doing that we had problems because certain scenarios were not supported using the integrated translator during the compile step. EXCI applications are what come to mind off the top of my head. Have all the restrictions been lifted at this point? If so, at what

Re: SDB and Program Object Library

Bad ACS routuines? In order to copy a load module library to a progam object library I used ISPF Data Set Utility to allocate the new library with DSNTYPE=LIBRARY. Believing that "SDB knows best," I left BLKSIZE blank. ISPF warned me. I told it, "Trust me." I went to Move/Copy Utility and

Re: VSAM: Why MAXLRECL?

In IBM parlance this is a "reserved" field. Define the LREcL to the max needed Double that Add 10% This is the LRECL you define. Go back to the original LRECL and define what you need. Define the remainder as "reserved for future use". In that way, you only have to change the record defintions,

Re: Cobol and PreCompile for CICS and DB2

Hi Lizette, Not sure if you are looking for a calendar 'when' or release level. The linked article shows it back to CICS TS 2.2. The Announcement Letter shows that 2.2's availability date was January 25, 2002. Ralph enterprisesystemsmedia.com/article/cics-integrated-translator

Re: Cobol and PreCompile for CICS and DB2

"The integrated translator function requires IBM COBOL for OS/390 and VM Version 2 Release 2, with "PTF UQ52879 (APAR PQ45462)" or Enterprise COBOL for z/OS and OS/390 Version 3. Note, however, that the COBOL3 translator option must be active". ...what fun that was changing all the compile

Re: Problems installing Suse Linux under zpdt.

Radoslaw. I tried mostly ftp as this is the recommended and explained way. My idea was to install it in zpdt basic mode and then to start it under zvm which is up and running. The problem is that the installer does find the materials. ITschak נשלח מה-iPad שלי ‫ב-12 בינו׳ 2017, בשעה 14:47,

Re: Problems installing Suse Linux under zpdt.

Call 18004267378 IBM Or post your problem to z1...@yahoogroups.com Joe Reichman 8045 Newell St Apt 403 Silver Spring MD 20910 Home (240) 863-3965 Cell (917) 748 -9693 > On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:47 AM, R.S. wrote: > > W dniu 2017-01-12 o 10:17, Itschak Mugzach

Re: Problems installing Suse Linux under zpdt.

W dniu 2017-01-12 o 10:17, Itschak Mugzach pisze: I am trying to install Suse linux 12 SP2 on a zPDT native.I using instruction from a redbook titled The Virtualization Cookbook for SLES 11 which has instructions for SLES 12 as well. The problem I face is a message ** No repository found. I

Re: VSAM: Why MAXLRECL?

W dniu 2017-01-11 o 22:30, Frank Swarbrick pisze: Is there a downside to always defining VSAM files with a MAXLRECL of 32761, which seems to be the largest value for this parm for an UNSPANNED dataset? Besides CISZ and other performance issues there is another big issue: the application. Let's

Re: Cobol and PreCompile for CICS and DB2

Yes, exactly. I remember in the past you had two steps for compile for DB2 or CICS Cobol programs. One to translate the SQL or CICS EXEC statements to COBOL and then the Compile step itself. I was wondering when that was changed so the Cobol Compiler could do it all in one step without the

Re: any user of client web enablement toolkit here?

On 12/01/2017 7:31 PM, Itschak Mugzach wrote: I wrote HTTP protocol driver in REXX and it works fine. I also wrote an assembler program that make use of the toolkit. When I try it for Windows server, it work fine. When I try it to POST to linux (both Apache),it requires LE and returns a SIGPIPE.

Re: Problems installing Suse Linux under zpdt.

Thanks. This may take some time as I need moderator improvement. Meanwhile I tried to connect to the ftp server with sam einfo and it worked. The problem is only with the installer. I am sure this is a user error, but can't find the reason because there is no log created for the installer.

any user of client web enablement toolkit here?

I wrote HTTP protocol driver in REXX and it works fine. I also wrote an assembler program that make use of the toolkit. When I try it for Windows server, it work fine. When I try it to POST to linux (both Apache),it requires LE and returns a SIGPIPE. Since then, it is impossible to access the

Re: Problems installing Suse Linux under zpdt.

There is a z1090 yahoo usergroup You can also open up a PMR Joe Reichman 8045 Newell St Apt 403 Silver Spring MD 20910 Home (240) 863-3965 Cell (917) 748 -9693 > On Jan 12, 2017, at 4:17 AM, Itschak Mugzach wrote: > > I am trying to install Suse linux 12 SP2 on a zPDT

Problems installing Suse Linux under zpdt.

I am trying to install Suse linux 12 SP2 on a zPDT native.I using instruction from a redbook titled The Virtualization Cookbook for SLES 11 which has instructions for SLES 12 as well. The problem I face is a message ** No repository found. I tried the FTP installation and later Hard Drrive method

Re: AW: What is subsystem function code No. 39 and what does it do?

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:05:35 +0100, Roland Schiradin wrote: >SYS1.MODGEN(IEFSSAG) is the related macro for this function code. HTH > Thank you. This macro only describes a layout of an extension to the SSOB for the service requested. Yet, the "Using the Subsystem

Re: Who's using Java 8

On 12/01/2017 3:17 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: Have you looked at Liberty Profile yet? Yes. It's attractive but there are licensing issues. Your customers with CICS TS 5+ for z/OS or WAS 8.5+ for z/OS licensing already have Liberty Profile licensing, and some of them probably already use