Digital certificates, probably inactive

2019-01-16 Thread Bob Bridges
? If this is not the right place to ask, feel free to steer me somewhere else, with or without derisive flames as it suits you :). I'm reading documentation, but it's also nice to get confirmation from experienced admins, especially in a subject with so many corners and pitfalls. --- Bob Bridges, cell 336 382-7313

Re: Style (was: Newbie SMP/E questions)

2019-01-29 Thread Bob Bridges
ers are slightly more work but For multiple contributors and especially for multiple iterations they add a great deal to clarity; see below. --- Bob Bridges, cell 336 382-7313 robhbrid...@gmail.com rbrid...@infosecinc.com /* Law #31 of combat operations: If the enemy is within range, so are

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-01-29 Thread Bob Bridges
Never heard of CA-MSM, but I'll look into it. (I've been in contact with Bob Boerum at CA, but he's never mentioned it.) We've been using the SMP/E panels, and, as you say, letting them construct the JCL. --- Bob Bridges, cell 336 382-7313 robhbrid...@gmail.com rbrid...@infosecinc.com

Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-01-29 Thread Bob Bridges
, but doesn't add them to the list. Have I misunderstood something? I'm loathe to believe the documentation is flat wrong. If you're getting ready to send rushed messages saying "DON'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU'VE CHECKED...", relax; we're planning to go slow. --- Bob Bridges, cell 33

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-01-30 Thread Bob Bridges
Carmen, what do you mean by "not all PTFs will apply or restore"? If you mean that there's a PTF that cannot be applied, how then is it a PTF? And if you can APPLY it but not RESTORE...I'm incredulous. Can you expand on that? --- Bob Bridges, cell 336 382-7313 robhbrid...@gmail.c

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-01-31 Thread Bob Bridges
the documentation. You probably won't hear many more questions from me for a while, therefore, but I'm certain to be back eventually. --- Bob Bridges, cell 336 382-7313 robhbrid...@gmail.com rbrid...@infosecinc.com /* A fanatic is someone who does what he knows God would do if God knew

Re: Throwback Thursday: Logic, shmogic, we've got a process | Computerworld Shark Tank

2019-01-25 Thread Bob Bridges
It wrapped at my end, but I don't see the problem; if I want to follow the link I'll just reässemble it. --- Bob Bridges, cell 336 382-7313 robhbrid...@gmail.com rbrid...@infosecinc.com /* Think hard about whether a voice-enabled device is right for you. That includes products from Amazon

Re: Newbie SMP/E questions

2019-02-04 Thread Bob Bridges
anything, but can you provide some background? I don't know what I would see in an ABMLISTing that would tell me anything I need to know about a CSI. --- Bob Bridges, cell 336 382-7313 robhbrid...@gmail.com rbrid...@infosecinc.com /* Paramedic Rule #2: All bleeding stopseventually. -from

Re: Just how secure are mainframes? | Trevor Eddolls

2019-06-11 Thread Bob Bridges
. But apparently not. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Nearly all men can stand adversity. If you want to test a man's character, give him power. -Abraham Lincoln */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: Can backup mechanisms be used to steal RACF database? was Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-09 Thread Bob Bridges
ablish how effective might be the new version of John the Ripper. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Be careful of your thoughts; they may become words at any moment. -Ira Gassen */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTS

Re: Can backup mechanisms be used to steal RACF database? was Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-09 Thread Bob Bridges
situation most ardently to be avoided :). The lesson I take from this, and pass on to my clients, is that read access to the security database is a huge exposure and in most cases - that is, for most user IDs - completely unnecessary. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* r

Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-06 Thread Bob Bridges
' life it was essentially a one-operator OS; whatever you did to Windows was just you, not (usually) someone reaching in from outside. Then, too, it took a while for MS to get religion about security. But first and foremost, IMVHO, it's that MVS has been around so much longer. --- Bob Bridges

Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-06 Thread Bob Bridges
claiming expertise in the subject. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If the Earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything off it by now. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ITschak

Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-06 Thread Bob Bridges
created. Using a standalone PC they cracked about 30 000 passwords (out of 120 000 on Applicat’s database) in 'a couple of days'." --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If the Earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything off it by now. */ -Original Me

Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-07 Thread Bob Bridges
figuring out Colossal Cave's "magic mode" before I left there for another job. It's primarily by remembering those days that I came to understand why MVS users nowadays need special authority to create a program dump. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A fanatic

Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-07 Thread Bob Bridges
Yeah, about that: What ~is~ a "controled program"? I noticed that qualification, but my background is apps development and I'm woefully ignorant in spots. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a g

Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-07 Thread Bob Bridges
the number of systems that are secured. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Unspecified error; smash forehead on keyboard to continue. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nightwatch RenBand Sent

Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-07 Thread Bob Bridges
m all to have this feature turned on, that is, they're controling access to dumps. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If the Earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything off it by now. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LI

Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-07 Thread Bob Bridges
essing. I was not an inveterate MS-basher, but I nearly became one for a while. Then they finally began to see the light - ~very~ late, in my opinion, but better late than never. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I don't want the cheese, I just want out of the trap.

Re: mainframe hacking "success stories"?

2019-05-07 Thread Bob Bridges
, the original stolen ID had read access to the RACF database. The hackers downloaded the database, then applied a dictionary attack to it at their leisure, thus getting thousands of passwords not only in that LPAR but in another one visited by the same users. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid

Submitting batch if you don't have TSO

2019-09-04 Thread Bob Bridges
to log on to TSO, could I still submit a batch job somehow? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* You know you've had too much coffee when Juan Valdez names his donkey after you. You've worn out the handle on your favorite coffee mug. Your eyes stay

Re: Submitting batch if you don't have TSO

2019-09-09 Thread Bob Bridges
o have TSO and/or a UID. I don't know much about SSH or Telnet - hardly anything about them, in fact. Is it worth asking for details? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Every now and then go away, have a little relaxation, for when you come back to your work you

Re: Submitting batch if you don't have TSO

2019-09-09 Thread Bob Bridges
Ok, but the only way to submit a job via SYSOUT=(A,INTRDR) is to have TSO in the first place, right? What I'm asking is how users might submit batch who ~don't~ have TSO. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* In an emergency, a drawstring from a parka hood can be used

Re: Submitting batch if you don't have TSO

2019-09-11 Thread Bob Bridges
and money on fixing the problem. Also I should understand the method pretty thoroughly myself, lest I be reduced under cross-examination to "gee, I heard there was a way using a pin-wire flummox, but I'm not sure how that works..." --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

2019-12-03 Thread Bob Bridges
if some combination of moves make it possible, how is it possible to do it "carelessly"? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Our cause is never more in danger than when a human, no longer desiring, but still intending, to do our Enemy's will, looks round upon

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-29 Thread Bob Bridges
That's a new one on me. How did tapping instead of dialing save you the fourpence? I'd have thought that whatever allowed the call to go through a) didn't know the difference between tapping and dialing, and b) wouldn't go without being paid. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336

Re: New Rexx Question

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
if subconfition2 then leave v1=calculation(a,b) v2=calculation(c,d) if \(v15) then leave /* process your logic */ end I think this is simpler to look at. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* God's never been disappointed in me, because he never had any illusions

Re: New Rexx Question

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
to prevent long indented If blocks; multiple ITERATES are much easier to debug. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Three people may keep a secret, if two of them are dead. -Poor Richard */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
in the minority. I'd never heard that it's a mark of old folks, just that some people hate it and some insist on it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 John: Well, you would not assure me that it was anything real. Reason: Nor that it was not. John: But I must think it i

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
ot;ext" Surely this is what Thomas expected. I can't imagine what would legitimately cause REXX to behave in any other way - and I don't understand why anyone would expect anything different. Now I'm going to go read that link someone posted that's supposed to explain it. But I don't get i

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
is "12 word3.ext". Weird, but at least the universe makes sense again. The trick, I guess, is to remember to class parsing operations according to precedence, just as we do with arithmetic and Boolean operators. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Good teachin

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
ed it. Backward compatibility still reigns, doesn't it? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A lie goes half way round the world before the truth can get its pants on. -- Winston Churchill */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-M

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
of the NYT and People magazine. Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the only rule, though.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Perhaps the most valuable result of all education is the ability to make yourself to do the thing you have to do when it ought to be done w

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
thought to take parens into account. But the general principles it requires might apply to your problem too. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I hold it, that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the ph

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
Baby-boomer, I presume he means. Born during the '50s, mostly. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Westheimer's Discovery: A couple of months in the laboratory can save a couple of hours in the library. -Frank H Westheimer, chemistry professor (1912

Re: 2 Spaces after periods [was: RE: Rexx parse using period as placeholder]

2020-02-28 Thread Bob Bridges
Is it, really? I'm usually a good speller, but I guess I've been doing that one wrong since I first read "The Hobbit". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* It's far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help. */ -Origin

Re: Rexx parse using period as placeholder

2020-02-27 Thread Bob Bridges
dimentary PowerShell. It's a ~big~ world out there, and so far I'm still having fun. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you don't like my bumper stickers, vote liberal and have them outlawed! */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-

Re: [ISPF-L] "macro_msg" edit macro command not working for "COMPARE" command?

2020-02-03 Thread Bob Bridges
I've never used the COMPARE command. (Never used MACRO_MSG, either.) What message were you expecting from COMPARE? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* By 2005 or so, it will be clear that the Internet's impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine's

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2020-03-06 Thread Bob Bridges
to have me work on their mainframe security from home. Ten years ago I noticed they were doing it with systems programmers, too. Nowadays I see the occasional req for remote managers. I suppose there are some jobs that simply cannot be done from home, forever, but fewer than before. --- Bob

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2020-03-08 Thread Bob Bridges
d ADD when they were kids, before ADD was a thing. I missed it, but for months after that friends and family members exclaimed to me "Did you see that 60-Minutes episode? They had a picture of Bob Bridges on that show!". I gather people who had ADD before it became a fashionable

Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home?

2020-03-11 Thread Bob Bridges
have to show my face. Maybe employers would prefer to know you have a track record before they trust you to do much out of sight. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Winning isn't everything, but then losing is nothing. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: OT - Mainframe Development

2020-03-11 Thread Bob Bridges
s. If you want, I'll forward a few of them to you; you can, if you like, use that as contact information to the recruiters who have such jobs to offer. (But I promise you that almost every IT recruiter has mainframe jobs to offer.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Th

About the leap second and coding

2020-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
ns-global-clock/384355/ --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery. -from _Calvin & Hobbes_ */ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Bringing up skills learned on z/OS Hercules in interview?

2020-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
e'll never be a consensus on it). Is there any ~legal~ basis for the assertion? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -Daniel Webster */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discu

Re: Why rip out COBOL when you can modernize key applications? - Weirdware

2020-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
know why it's so difficult for me. I assume it's not everyone who has that problem. But sometimes nothing but recursion will do. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Dad and Mom can share the driving chores, as follows: Dad will start out at the wheel, then Mom will take

Re: regarding the 'shortage of mainframe talent'

2020-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
ling to believe it's real, but I haven't noticed it. But then I'm only 65. Maybe in another ten years. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* A delay is better than a disaster. -Found taped to a departed IS manager's keyboard */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainf

Re: Some COBOL Links

2020-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
Am I being unnecessarily cynical to wonder about the risk of taking on new COBOL programmers who "volunteer" to help the state remediate applications that hand out money? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Law #36 of combat operations: Radar tends to fai

Re: FW: COBOL NJ

2020-04-08 Thread Bob Bridges
(Regarding that tagline:) YES!! "Science" is only superficially an activity, and even more superficially a job; much more important it's a philosophy, a way of approaching the discovery of knowledge. By that definition some scientists aren't, and some non-scientists are. --- B

Re: Bringing up skills learned on z/OS Hercules in interview?

2020-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
reate PDSs and GDGs etc - in other words, that Hercules emulates MVS. But if it doesn't emulate the mainframe operating system, what ~does~ it do? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* When a man is getting better he understands more and more clearly the evil that is still l

About the "hello world" program

2020-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
I write when tackling a new language; when I can get my first program to display "Hi, there!", I know I'm on the right track. I never sneer at that particular first step, however trivial it seems later. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Another reason wh

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
Like talking about a VIN number or an ATM machine. It could be worse, though; I once heard someone refer (really!) to an "automatic ATM machine". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Another reason why creative individuals prefer to work at home,

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
stories is about Captain Cook exploring Australia (that was Cook, right?), who upon first seeing a kangaroo from a distance asked "what's that?". And the local guide replied "kanga roo" - which means, in his language, "it's a roo". --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com,

Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job?

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
I don't know from bash - I can barely spell it - but despite the popularity of REXX among its adherents, including myself, it doesn't seem to ~me~ that "everyone knows REXX". Didn't I see IBM trying to find REXX programmers to work for them, a year or two ago? --- Bob Bridges

Re: ACM Articles on Cobol and more

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
sound like a COBOL problem at all. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The more sophisticated the technology, the more vulnerable it is to primitive attack. People often overlook the obvious. -Dr Who, 1978 */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
become aware of it now in the light (so to speak) of COVID-19, that's all to the good, and if IBM can garner a little more credit for what they've been doing all along, so much the better. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* As a father, I have a vested interest in seeing my

Re: How to change the default '.java' extension to '.jav'?

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
member how. Anyway, since I'm pretty sure the solution is in Windows, you'll probably want to move the question to a different forum, though someone here may know. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Children need love, especially when they do not deserve it. -Harold

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
, ok, that's Japanese. And so on. In the same vein I once tried to count how many programming languages I've used at one time or another. For that purpose I cast the net pretty wide, and I'm pretty sure I included JCL. Hey, it's got "L" in the name, right? It even has an IF construct! Sure,

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
He was just responding to your parenthesis, I assumed. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Q: Why is there no such organization as Chocoholics Anonymous? A: Because no one wants to quit. */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN

Re: COBOL help for NJ

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
need COBOL programmers,” Murphy said of the outdated computer language. I'm thinking the headline writer got a little carried away. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Another reason why creative individuals prefer to work at home, as opposed to an office, is that when you need

Re: COBOL help for NJ

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
sources and wrote what we saw before going back to his Real Job. Maybe I'm doing him an injustice. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* There are two rules for ultimate success in life: 1) Never tell everything you know. -Randy Keck */ -Original Message- From

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
development. Didn't plan it that way, just never ended up on a CICS project. But I think that's unusual; I certainly don't mean it as a contradiction to Kirk's general point, with which I completely agree. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Another reason why creative

Re: Why rip out COBOL when you can modernize key applications? - Weirdware

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
ot; manner: This paragraph accomplish a certain task by executing paragraphs one through three, then two more, and this subparagraph executes subsubparagraphs, and so on. Forms good habits, I think. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* My life is in the hands of any fool wh

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm not familiar with Prolog, but if it doesn't (in John's words) do Input, Process or Output I can see it wouldn't have much in common with COBOL. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The conviction of the rich that the poor are happier is no more foolish than

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
same time I had to begin using it for more than just one-line queries. The trick, I finally concluded, is to ~start~ with the FROM clause. Design that first, and maybe GROUP BY next, and everything else seems easy enough after that.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Bridges
o-humble-O it simply isn't. It is a very handy 3GL, but that's all.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Now some of you are scratching your heads and wondering "How does a person with an IQ higher than pastry get Super Glue in his ear and not know it?"

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Bridges
to me now than it did fifty years ago; I know that once I've become familiar with a language, it'll seem pretty natural. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* By afflictions, God is spoiling us of what otherwise might have spoiled us. When he makes the world too hot for us

Re: ACM Articles on Cobol and more

2020-04-13 Thread Bob Bridges
etting me thoroughly grounded in COBOL and JCL. There are some things I would probably never have learned without formal training. I think I'm often more cock-sure of myself than reality warrants; must avoid that. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* This universe is fu

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-11 Thread Bob Bridges
e to think of it. Wait, I remember - that wasn't me, it was some other guy. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat? */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: DFSORT? Rexx? Re: Print/copy one record of each type/subtype

2020-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
Wait, what? Since when? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Great good nature, without prudence, is a great misfortune. -Poor Richard */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent

Re: Memory-Lane Monday: System Zzzzz | Computerworld Shark Tank

2020-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
~thought~ I was awake, the first two times. But I wasn't really. Sometimes she had to start over only once. Usually twice. Never three times. Answering in my sleep? Not that I recall. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Sometimes you feel like a nut. After a day

Re: Here we go again

2020-04-20 Thread Bob Bridges
anguage it's written in...would it? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I am pretty sure that, if you will be quite honest, you will admit that a good rousing sneeze, one that tears open your collar and throws your hair into your eyes, is really one of life's sensational

Re: About the "hello world" program

2020-04-12 Thread Bob Bridges
ntial joke. Finally gave in and clicked on the link. Yeah, that was it. (Not a quine: "Thit sentence contains exactly threee errors.") Delays, delays... --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The kingdom of Heaven is not for the well-meaning; it is for the

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-10 Thread Bob Bridges
to say so. (Once I learned that "comprise" is does not mean "compose", you see, I have to point it out wherever possible.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If a man speaks in the forest and there is no woman to hear him, is he still wrong?

Re: regarding the 'shortage of mainframe talent'

2020-04-09 Thread Bob Bridges
registered for social-security last year; my SSA interviewer repeatedly had to consult with a coworker to figure out how to handle me. She got it figured out in the end (I suppose). If you want to talk more about that, feel free to contact me off-line, for what my ignorance is worth. --- Bob Bridges

Re: Mainframe growth for the next decade!

2020-03-16 Thread Bob Bridges
de be more widespread than I want to believe? Meanwhile, recruiters tell me that mainframers are ever more difficult to find and our value keeps rising accordingly. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* When their love was strong they could sleep on the edge of a sword, but

Re: Scripting REXX thought -- inspiration or insanity?

2020-03-16 Thread Bob Bridges
Gil, you're probably going to say "yeah, that's not what I meant", but it sort of does. I mean, that's what the queued() function call will tell you, no? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The worst thing about new books is that they keep us from reading the

Re: Scripting REXX thought -- inspiration or insanity?

2020-03-16 Thread Bob Bridges
be. Sigh. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* When their love was strong they could sleep on the edge of a sword, but now when they have forgotten, a bed sixty feet across is not sufficient. -Rab Akiva, quoted in _The Source_ by James Michener */ -Original Message

Re: Edit macros vs TSO (was PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution)

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
What DSN? Not sure what question you're asking here. Or did I cull too much of the conversation? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* This may not be the last time that I mention this, but this is not much fun. -from the early 2001 log of Cam Lewis, captain of "

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-05 Thread Bob Bridges
ested in me?" "Well," said the Prime Minister. "The year 10 000 is just around the corner, and it says in your files you know COBOL..." --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. -Voltaire */ -

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-05 Thread Bob Bridges
, God bless him! By the way, Steve, I enjoyed your tagline :). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Beware of any Christian leader who does not walk with a limp. -Bob Mumford */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN

Re: New Jersey Pleas for COBOL Coders for Mainframes Amid Coronavirus Pandemic

2020-04-05 Thread Bob Bridges
t;, in any practical sense, but apparently the writer got it right that it isn't being taught in schools. Dunno about 55 to 85 $/hr, though, unless things have gotten a lot worse since I got into the security side. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* D'you call life a bad

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
I followed your link. I never knew what a "church key" was, before; I've used them, of course (I'm 65) but never connected the object with that term. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* "Consider how much more you often suffer from your anger and gr

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
would have to be an optional addition, not a replacement. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If "compassionate conservative" is an oxymoron, then so is "liberal values". -John Aul (j...@symon.com), quoted in A Word A Day */ -Original Message- From:

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
batch JCL, and can still be run in the foreground as a command without a special wrapper as it was before it was added to the production schedule. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Back in the old days, most families were close-knit. Grown children and their parents continu

Edit macros vs TSO (was PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution)

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
if fmac then address ISREDIT else arg args "Too often you find yourself coding..." repetitive stuff? Gil, as much as you write, you don't have a skeleton member with lots of oft-used code in it? Sure, you d

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
a foreground command, or a TSSSIM analysis, without having to set up the JCL for it. But aside from a DYL-280II syntax check, decades ago now, I don't recall any user asking me to do it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The cities are for money but the high-up hills

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
else 'use a predetermined DSN Hm, no one ever told me choosing a random DD name is passé. I have a TEMPDD routine that returns a DD name guaranteed to be unused; otherwise many of my routines would end up conflicting whenever I use them recursively (sort of). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, ce

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
do, I notice a bug in it, one I've never triggered so it never came to my attention before. I'll have to fix it; maybe I can improve the ugliness at the same time. What's a "race condition"? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* For Sale: Parachute. Only used on

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-31 Thread Bob Bridges
is~ SVC 99? Some kind of assembler call, I suppose? I've written in assemblers, but haven't yet learned HLASM. One of my many ambitions; still trying to get around to it. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* He that can have patience can have what he will. -Po

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
lient's machine? (I dunno why you say "unlike VBScript"; isn't it available on every Windows machine?) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* In most states you can get a driver's license when you're 16 years old, which made a lot of sense to me when I was 16 years ol

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
hen I carelessly say someone has "shot his wad". Sigh. No one ~reads~ anymore. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. -Thomas Edison */ -Original Message- From:

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
utting the SORT step in a separate job. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Now the best relation to our spiritual home is to be near enough to love it. But the next best is to be far enough away not to hate it While the best judge of Christianity is a Christian, the n

Re: PARM= vs PARMDD= and symbol substitution

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
a largish-security database. The last step is a SORT that takes less than a second - but I had to put it in a separate job, and have it triggered by the previous job, because otherwise the dataset would be unavailable for Viewing by any user while the long job was running. --- Bob Bridges

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
ominations, but please note I said "interpreter" and "widely available". I'd define VBScript as "widely available" on the PC, not because everyone uses it but because it'll run on any Windows machine - no special installation required. Is there any OO language like

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
Sure, they would. But when ~I~ say it, it's true. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* One of the quickest ways I've found to look foolish is to state positively what God will not do. -Bob Bridges */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: strange python announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Bridges
Widely available on the mainframe? Could I write something for TSO in it, for example, and expect it to run on any of my clients' machines? I ask with real interest. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you're not failing when you train or test your security, you're

Re: Here we go again;

2020-04-22 Thread Bob Bridges
presentation. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God "Thy will be done", and those to whom God says, in the end, "THY will be done". -from _The Great Divorce_ by C S Lewis */ -Original Me

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-04-30 Thread Bob Bridges
MQ, TSO, CICS, IMS - whatever the environment, the ID has to be authenticated by RACF (or ACF2, or TSS). As far as I know they're all limited to the usual 39 characters, and a max length of eight. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If everyone is thinking alike

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-04-30 Thread Bob Bridges
The past, yes, obviously. Also obviously: Not so very dead. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking. -Geoge S Patton */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN

Re: Mainframe user ID length

2020-05-02 Thread Bob Bridges
se? Isn't RACROUTE the funneling point for all such checks? And doesn't RACROUTE require an 8-byte ID to identify the actor? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* To be humble to superiors is duty, to equals courtesy, to inferiors nobleness. -Poor Richard */ -Origin

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