Re: Installing z/OS in new mainframe from scratch

2014-04-01 Thread Skip Robinson
/OS in new mainframe from scratch Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Timothy Sipples wrote: Yes, installation services are available from IBM and service partners. As John Eells points out, if you prefer to install z/OS from scratch in house then you'd use

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-31 Thread John Eells
R.S. wrote: snip BTW2: nowadays you don't need ICKDSF before restore, AFAIK. That's correct, and it's been true for the last few releases. Standalone DFSMSdss was changed to no longer require you to use ICKDSF to label the volume before RESTORE when the volume labels differ. This change

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-31 Thread John Eells
Clark, Kevin wrote: 4. Hopefully you ordered a z/os System Pac ( in full dump volume format) ( this may come with a SA program ?) In at least most countries SystemPac is no longer available. (ServerPac, by contrast, should be available anywhere.) However, where SystemPac remains

Re: Installing z/OS in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-31 Thread John Eells
Timothy Sipples wrote: Yes, installation services are available from IBM and service partners. As John Eells points out, if you prefer to install z/OS from scratch in house then you'd use the z/OS Customized Offerings Driver, available at no additional charge with your z/OS license (assuming

Re: Installing z/OS in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-31 Thread R.S.
Just a comment: many responders assumed skills from scratch. It wasn't pointed by the author of the thread. Maybe the system is to be installed from scratch, but maybe the team consist of skilled persons. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2014-03-31 15:48, John Eells pisze:

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-30 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:25:22 -0700, Duffy Nightingale wrote: This is kind of interesting. I am a developer now but I remember back in the good old days of system programming work. It seems like as far as installing a new IBM product, we could not get any help what so ever. If you had a

Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Mohamed Juma
Dear list, What is the recommended way to install z/os from scratch to a new data center, includes new hardware z machine, DASD, tape system. King regards, Mohamed juma -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-03-28 07:28, Mohamed Juma pisze: Dear list, What is the recommended way to install z/os from scratch to a new data center, includes new hardware z machine, DASD, tape system. Hire specialist ;-) Some details: 1. Configure DASD box (define 3390 volumes) 2. Connect the DASD to CPC

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 08:41:44 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: z/VM as a matter of SOP provides a DVD OS image that can be IPLed directly from an HMC. z/OS does not. You have to obtain a volume-dump copy of a runnable system, then perform 'stand-alone' restores onto DASD volumes that you can access.

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 08:41:44 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: z/VM as a matter of SOP provides a DVD OS image that can be IPLed directly from an HMC. z/OS does not. You have to obtain a volume-dump copy of a runnable system, then perform 'stand-alone' restores onto DASD

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 March 2014 02:28, Mohamed Juma mmj...@yahoo.com wrote: What is the recommended way to install z/os from scratch to a new data center, includes new hardware z machine, DASD, tape system. If you are in this unusual position, IBM will surely be already knocking at your door to help you do

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Gibney, Dave
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch On 2014-03-28 11:25, John Eells wrote: As someone else posted, the COD is available on DVD

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-03-28 11:25, John Eells wrote: As someone else posted, the COD is available on DVD; it has been available that way for some years now. In fact: On 2014-03-28 01:17, R.S. wrote: ... Some details: 1. Configure DASD box (define 3390 volumes) 2. Connect the DASD to CPC 3.

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Skip Robinson
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 03/28/2014 07:44 AM Subject:Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On 28 March 2014 02:28, Mohamed

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: snip The last two steps mystify me: ...small z/OS system, ... on DVD's. Can one IPL z/OS from a DVD? It is theoretically possible, to IPL z/OS from DVD in some sense (I think) though we (a) don't support it (b) haven't tried it and (c) practical limitations and

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Meral Temel
Subject: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch Dear list, What is the recommended way to install z/os from scratch to a new data center, includes new hardware z machine, DASD, tape system. King regards, Mohamed juma

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Meral Temel
Hi , I am not sure what level of information you need, but this was a session at SHARE that was aimed to explain procedures and steps in project which has a target to implement mainframe platform from ground up.(new CEC,new DASD,new Tape ). The target attendees were new system programmers and

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-03-28 18:59, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On 2014-03-28 11:25, John Eells wrote: As someone else posted, the COD is available on DVD; it has been available that way for some years now. In fact: On 2014-03-28 01:17, R.S. wrote: ... Some details: 1. Configure DASD box (define 3390

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Duffy Nightingale
and accepts no liability for any damage sustained as a result of viruses. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Installing z/os in new

Re: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch

2014-03-28 Thread Clark, Kevin
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mohamed Juma Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 2:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Installing z/os in new mainframe from scratch Dear list, What is the recommended way to install z/os from scratch to a new data center, includes new hardware z machine, DASD