Re: PCOMM 15 UID
I would agree there is very little in the way of documentation around the contents of the WS file. I've used PCOMM for many years. What little documentation there is seems to be only related to when there are issues. One example that comes to mind is the use of the TerminalTypeString parameter. Another example is the IgnoreWCCStartPrint parameter and as far as I remember that is not even documented in a PCOMM manual. Good luck getting an answer. Paul -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2024 1:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PCOMM 15 UID W dniu 14.09.2024 o 17:04, Paul Gilmartin pisze: > On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:30:21 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >> I noticed that PCOMM v15 add UID= statement to the session.WS files. >> The value is long hex number, I guess it is random. >> >> Q: what is the meaning of the UID? >> >> Q2: is there any PCOMM forum or group? >> > UID? UUID? > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier> Let me clarify: I didn't ask about UUID nor I asked to expand the shortcut. I asked about the meaning of UID as a parameter in WS file. Unfortunately syntax (parameters) of WS file is not documented. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM 15 UID
W dniu 14.09.2024 o 17:04, Paul Gilmartin pisze: On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:30:21 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: I noticed that PCOMM v15 add UID= statement to the session.WS files. The value is long hex number, I guess it is random. Q: what is the meaning of the UID? Q2: is there any PCOMM forum or group? UID? UUID? <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier> Let me clarify: I didn't ask about UUID nor I asked to expand the shortcut. I asked about the meaning of UID as a parameter in WS file. Unfortunately syntax (parameters) of WS file is not documented. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM 15 UID
There have been bugs reported with 2 products having the same UUID. https://community.veeam.com/blogs-and-podcasts-57/detecting-and-exporting-duplicate-bios-uuids-on-windows-computers-with-powershell-4523 On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 10:04 AM Paul Gilmartin <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:30:21 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > > >I noticed that PCOMM v15 add UID= statement to the session.WS files. > >The value is long hex number, I guess it is random. > > > >Q: what is the meaning of the UID? > > > >Q2: is there any PCOMM forum or group? > > > UID? UUID? > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier> > > -- > gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM 15 UID
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:30:21 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >I noticed that PCOMM v15 add UID= statement to the session.WS files. >The value is long hex number, I guess it is random. > >Q: what is the meaning of the UID? > >Q2: is there any PCOMM forum or group? > UID? UUID? <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier> -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
PCOMM 15 UID
I noticed that PCOMM v15 add UID= statement to the session.WS files. The value is long hex number, I guess it is random. Q: what is the meaning of the UID? Q2: is there any PCOMM forum or group? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM alternate screen size
W dniu 31.07.2023 o 17:13, Dana Mitchell pisze: On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:17:13 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: On 6/28/2012 7:55 PM, Bob Rutledge wrote: Thomas Conley wrote: I'm being forced to use PCOMM, and I can't figure out how to set the alternate screen size. any help you can give would be appreciated. Hie thee to the archives and search for TD102151 in the subject line. Bob I now find myself needing to use PCOMM 14.0 instead of VIsta. I'd like to set a custom screen size other than the larger value available in the communicaitons properties of 62x160. I'd prefer to have something more like 50x135. But my session.ws file doesn't contain the screensize= parameter and it doesn't work if I add the updates as mentioned in techdoc TD102151. Is there a newer version of this techdoc available or instructions somewhere to set custom screensizes in newer versions of PCOMM? AFAIK PCOMM does not record default values in the WS file. Worse: *there is no documentation available*. Yes, there is no documentation explaining all (at least most) .WS file keywords. Hint: in case of screensize or any other setting simply try to create test file with non-standard settings. You will find the difference. Fortunately most of the keyword names are self-explanatory. HTH -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM alternate screen size
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 15:18:50 +, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >>>. I'd prefer to have something more like 50x135. But my session.ws file >>>doesn't contain the screensize= parameter > >Dana, > >You need to code the screensize parameter under 3270. So, edit the .WS file >with any text editing software and add the following. > >[3270] >QueryReplyMode=Auto >HostCodePage=1047-U >Screensize=50x135 > > >Save it and then launch the pcomm session. > >Thanks, >Kolusu > Thanks Sri, that worked. I thought I tried that, but I may have not had the order of statements exactly like this, in case order matters... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM alternate screen size
Check what gets updated when you change the screen size to one of the other listed values. It must be saving it somewhere, either in a config file or in the registry. And there's only so many places that PCOMM stores configuration files. When you find what's updated, note how it stores this setting. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 10:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PCOMM alternate screen size On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:17:13 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: >On 6/28/2012 7:55 PM, Bob Rutledge wrote: >> Thomas Conley wrote: >>> I'm being forced to use PCOMM, and I can't figure out how to set the >>> alternate screen size. any help you can give would be appreciated. >> >> Hie thee to the archives and search for TD102151 in the subject line. >> >> Bob >> I now find myself needing to use PCOMM 14.0 instead of VIsta. I'd like to set a custom screen size other than the larger value available in the communicaitons properties of 62x160. I'd prefer to have something more like 50x135. But my session.ws file doesn't contain the screensize= parameter and it doesn't work if I add the updates as mentioned in techdoc TD102151. Is there a newer version of this techdoc available or instructions somewhere to set custom screensizes in newer versions of PCOMM? Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM alternate screen size
>>. I'd prefer to have something more like 50x135. But my session.ws file >>doesn't contain the screensize= parameter Dana, You need to code the screensize parameter under 3270. So, edit the .WS file with any text editing software and add the following. [3270] QueryReplyMode=Auto HostCodePage=1047-U Screensize=50x135 Save it and then launch the pcomm session. Thanks, Kolusu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
PCOMM alternate screen size
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:17:13 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: >On 6/28/2012 7:55 PM, Bob Rutledge wrote: >> Thomas Conley wrote: >>> I'm being forced to use PCOMM, and I can't figure out how to set the >>> alternate screen size. any help you can give would be appreciated. >> >> Hie thee to the archives and search for TD102151 in the subject line. >> >> Bob >> I now find myself needing to use PCOMM 14.0 instead of VIsta. I'd like to set a custom screen size other than the larger value available in the communicaitons properties of 62x160. I'd prefer to have something more like 50x135. But my session.ws file doesn't contain the screensize= parameter and it doesn't work if I add the updates as mentioned in techdoc TD102151. Is there a newer version of this techdoc available or instructions somewhere to set custom screensizes in newer versions of PCOMM? Dana -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
Thanks again Timothy. Good information to know, and I appreciate the prompt
reply.
Peter
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Subject: Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
Peter Farley wrote:
>Can you point to a page or document that describes the IBM policy
>for HACP version upgrades? I am concerned that if I buy a copy but
>receive an earlier-than-current version (e.g., V13.0 vs the more current
>V14.0) from a non-IBM distributor that I would not be entitled to
>upgrade without another charge.
No danger of that. There's no media shipment for these products, not without a
media part number and additional charge anyway. You're not going to get some
stale box that gathered dust on a shelf somewhere. There's no box. It's the
21st century now. :-)
When you purchase the license from an authorized IBM Business Partner that
company registers your entitlement(s) in IBM's Passport Advantage or Passport
Advantage Express system. ("Express" is for individuals and small businesses.)
You can then electronically download your entitled software products directly
from IBM Passport Advantage, in this case Personal Communications and Host
On-Demand.
If you want Version 13, and if it's still available for download (yes, usually
past versions are kept around), then you grab that. If you want Version 14, you
grab that. If you want both, you grab both. Any new versions or releases of
that product released during your Subscription & Support term are also
ordinarily available for download. And you can open problem cases with IBM
during your S&S term if you need to.
This particular license (IBM Host Access Client Package) is a one-time charge
perpetual license with annually renewable S&S. There's a renewal part number,
but that's easy since you should get invitations to renew before it's due
without having to worry about digging up the part number. If you don't renew
your S&S you're still licensed to run the version(s) released during your
active S&S period, and prior versions. If you want to resume S&S after an
interruption you can, but there's a different reinstatement part number for
that - and a higher price, of course.
Service updates and fixes are typically available via IBM Fix Central, so don't
assume what you download from Passport Advantage is the latest build. Check Fix
Central, too. You can subscribe to notices and alerts for your product(s).
By the way, there's a 90 day trial version of IBM Personal Communications for
Windows available here (direct link, subject to change):
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ibm.com/account/reg/us-en/signup?formid=urx-31769__;!!Ebr-cpPeAnfNniQ8HSAI-g_K5b7VKg!NzWLfuJGF2yegTsQo7exySBSH8uwgP_bXDmSZSmxyOf8Uu4CdHyWw0JRMul5uAkO6iLlksTw1ZOUR0l8DxBsmw$
I just checked, and you can currently download any of these Personal
Communications 90 day trial versions: 14.0.4, 14.0, 13.0, 12.0.2, or 6.0.14.
Ordinarily you'll want the latest, but you have choices. I believe one of the
significant changes in Version 14.0 is that it's a 64-bit Windows program, so
you might need 13.0 if you're still running a 32-bit flavor of Windows.
Obviously IBM's official documents govern if I've misstated anything.
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Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
The shareware folks figured out there was no need for a box (or anything physical, really) back in the 1990's or so. One of them wrote a little program that produced a 3D image of what looked like a box. So for years a lot of websites had pictures of a pretend box that the customer never received. And of course there were stories of a customer demanding the pretend box :) On 5/30/2022 10:30 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: You’re not going to get some stale box that gathered dust on a shelf somewhere. There’s no box. It’s the 21st century now. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
Peter Farley wrote: >Can you point to a page or document that describes the IBM policy >for HACP version upgrades? I am concerned that if I buy a copy but >receive an earlier-than-current version (e.g., V13.0 vs the more current >V14.0) from a non-IBM distributor that I would not be entitled to >upgrade without another charge. No danger of that. There’s no media shipment for these products, not without a media part number and additional charge anyway. You’re not going to get some stale box that gathered dust on a shelf somewhere. There’s no box. It’s the 21st century now. :-) When you purchase the license from an authorized IBM Business Partner that company registers your entitlement(s) in IBM’s Passport Advantage or Passport Advantage Express system. (“Express” is for individuals and small businesses.) You can then electronically download your entitled software products directly from IBM Passport Advantage, in this case Personal Communications and Host On-Demand. If you want Version 13, and if it’s still available for download (yes, usually past versions are kept around), then you grab that. If you want Version 14, you grab that. If you want both, you grab both. Any new versions or releases of that product released during your Subscription & Support term are also ordinarily available for download. And you can open problem cases with IBM during your S&S term if you need to. This particular license (IBM Host Access Client Package) is a one-time charge perpetual license with annually renewable S&S. There’s a renewal part number, but that’s easy since you should get invitations to renew before it’s due without having to worry about digging up the part number. If you don’t renew your S&S you’re still licensed to run the version(s) released during your active S&S period, and prior versions. If you want to resume S&S after an interruption you can, but there’s a different reinstatement part number for that — and a higher price, of course. Service updates and fixes are typically available via IBM Fix Central, so don’t assume what you download from Passport Advantage is the latest build. Check Fix Central, too. You can subscribe to notices and alerts for your product(s). By the way, there’s a 90 day trial version of IBM Personal Communications for Windows available here (direct link, subject to change): https://www.ibm.com/account/reg/us-en/signup?formid=urx-31769 I just checked, and you can currently download any of these Personal Communications 90 day trial versions: 14.0.4, 14.0, 13.0, 12.0.2, or 6.0.14. Ordinarily you’ll want the latest, but you have choices. I believe one of the significant changes in Version 14.0 is that it’s a 64-bit Windows program, so you might need 13.0 if you’re still running a 32-bit flavor of Windows. Obviously IBM’s official documents govern if I’ve misstated anything. — — — — — Timothy Sipples Senior Architect Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
The IBM announcement letter for HACP states " access to updates, releases,
and versions of the program as long as support is in effect." ... so you
just have to keep paying your annual maintenance. Good question how that
applies to buying a back-level version (and that would come with support in
effect for the first year).
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 4:17 AM Farley, Peter x23353 <
031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Thanks Timothy. My "favorite search engine" actually only found one
> distributor who actually publishes pricing for that part number, but there
> was at least one. The rest all required one to submit an RPQ to reveal
> pricing.
>
> Can you point to a page or document that describes the IBM policy for HACP
> version upgrades? I am concerned that if I buy a copy but receive an
> earlier-than-current version (e.g., V13.0 vs the more current V14.0) from a
> non-IBM distributor that I would not be entitled to upgrade without another
> charge.
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf
> Of Timothy Sipples
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 3:36 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
>
> As you've already figured out, you license IBM Personal Communications via
> the IBM Host Access Client Package ("HACP"). This license includes Personal
> Communications (for Windows) and Host On-Demand for all supported platforms
> (Linux, macOS, Windows, etc.) One license entitlement = one authorized
> user. It's not per installation, so if there's only one of you then the
> license quantity would be 1 even if you're going to use two PCs/laptops. If
> your sibling for example wants to use this software then she/he would need
> another license.
>
> You then need the IBM Passport Advantage part numbers, but I can help with
> that. (You can find them in past announcement letters, but I looked them up
> for you.) There are two part numbers of particular interest:
>
> D6152LL: new license with the first 12 months of Subscription & Support
> D6154LL: trade up license with first 12 months S&S
>
> "Trade up" means you've got some other "competitive" software product that
> this product is going to replace. You have to stop using whatever that
> other product is.
>
> A search using (your favorite Internet search engine) finds multiple
> distributors selling both of these part numbers, so the rest should be
> fairly easy.
>
> Hope that helps!
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Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
Thanks Timothy. My "favorite search engine" actually only found one
distributor who actually publishes pricing for that part number, but there was
at least one. The rest all required one to submit an RPQ to reveal pricing.
Can you point to a page or document that describes the IBM policy for HACP
version upgrades? I am concerned that if I buy a copy but receive an
earlier-than-current version (e.g., V13.0 vs the more current V14.0) from a
non-IBM distributor that I would not be entitled to upgrade without another
charge.
Peter
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
As you've already figured out, you license IBM Personal Communications via the
IBM Host Access Client Package ("HACP"). This license includes Personal
Communications (for Windows) and Host On-Demand for all supported platforms
(Linux, macOS, Windows, etc.) One license entitlement = one authorized user.
It's not per installation, so if there's only one of you then the license
quantity would be 1 even if you're going to use two PCs/laptops. If your
sibling for example wants to use this software then she/he would need another
license.
You then need the IBM Passport Advantage part numbers, but I can help with
that. (You can find them in past announcement letters, but I looked them up for
you.) There are two part numbers of particular interest:
D6152LL: new license with the first 12 months of Subscription & Support
D6154LL: trade up license with first 12 months S&S
"Trade up" means you've got some other "competitive" software product that this
product is going to replace. You have to stop using whatever that other product
is.
A search using (your favorite Internet search engine) finds multiple
distributors selling both of these part numbers, so the rest should be fairly
easy.
Hope that helps!
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Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
Thanks, Timothy. That was the information I, too, was looking for. DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
As you’ve already figured out, you license IBM Personal Communications via the IBM Host Access Client Package (“HACP”). This license includes Personal Communications (for Windows) and Host On-Demand for all supported platforms (Linux, macOS, Windows, etc.) One license entitlement = one authorized user. It’s not per installation, so if there’s only one of you then the license quantity would be 1 even if you’re going to use two PCs/laptops. If your sibling for example wants to use this software then she/he would need another license. You then need the IBM Passport Advantage part numbers, but I can help with that. (You can find them in past announcement letters, but I looked them up for you.) There are two part numbers of particular interest: D6152LL: new license with the first 12 months of Subscription & Support D6154LL: trade up license with first 12 months S&S “Trade up” means you’ve got some other “competitive” software product that this product is going to replace. You have to stop using whatever that other product is. A search using (your favorite Internet search engine) finds multiple distributors selling both of these part numbers, so the rest should be fairly easy. Hope that helps! — — — — — Timothy Sipples Senior Architect Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
Thanks Mike, but BTDT. I've been a Vista TN3270+ user for quite a while, as Tom B. can testify. My goal here is to explore the IBM offering as an educational experience. Tom's Vista TN3270+ Just Works (tm) as many of us already know. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 10:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM? Tom Brennans Vista is highly recommended. On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:03 PM Farley, Peter x23353 <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I've been roaming around the IBM websites looking for a published price for a > single-user copy of IBM Personal Communications, but I have not been able to > find anything resembling that information. > > Does anyone have a link or information on where one can find that pricing > (assuming it even exists)? Pricing for host system Windows version 10+ > and/or Ubuntu version 20+ would be ideal. > > I would like to use PCOMM for TSO access to the system used by the IBM > training site Zxplore. > > TIA for any leads you can provide. I do already have a copy of TN3270+ but I > would also like to have a recent copy of PCOMM for training and exploration > purposes. > > Peter -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
Tom Brennans Vista is highly recommended. On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 5:03 PM Farley, Peter x23353 <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I've been roaming around the IBM websites looking for a published price for a > single-user copy of IBM Personal Communications, but I have not been able to > find anything resembling that information. > > Does anyone have a link or information on where one can find that pricing > (assuming it even exists)? Pricing for host system Windows version 10+ > and/or Ubuntu version 20+ would be ideal. > > I would like to use PCOMM for TSO access to the system used by the IBM > training site Zxplore. > > TIA for any leads you can provide. I do already have a copy of TN3270+ but I > would also like to have a recent copy of PCOMM for training and exploration > purposes. > > Peter > > This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the > addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If > the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized > representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail > and delete the message and any attachments from your system. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
Having just done a bit more exploration of IBM websites, I came to realize it would also be useful to be able to obtain a copy of the full IBM Host Access Client Package, which includes the Host on Demand component. When I got to the IBM page for that product, the "Pricing" button led nowhere, it just flashed the screen. So if you know of any actual pricing documentation for either product I would appreciate a pointer. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 6:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM? I've been roaming around the IBM websites looking for a published price for a single-user copy of IBM Personal Communications, but I have not been able to find anything resembling that information. Does anyone have a link or information on where one can find that pricing (assuming it even exists)? Pricing for host system Windows version 10+ and/or Ubuntu version 20+ would be ideal. I would like to use PCOMM for TSO access to the system used by the IBM training site Zxplore. TIA for any leads you can provide. I do already have a copy of TN3270+ but I would also like to have a recent copy of PCOMM for training and exploration purposes. Peter -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Pricing for a single-user copy of PCOMM?
I've been roaming around the IBM websites looking for a published price for a single-user copy of IBM Personal Communications, but I have not been able to find anything resembling that information. Does anyone have a link or information on where one can find that pricing (assuming it even exists)? Pricing for host system Windows version 10+ and/or Ubuntu version 20+ would be ideal. I would like to use PCOMM for TSO access to the system used by the IBM training site Zxplore. TIA for any leads you can provide. I do already have a copy of TN3270+ but I would also like to have a recent copy of PCOMM for training and exploration purposes. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM .WS file reference
I tried. No entries found. I mean SessFlags or RuleLinePos, not just .ws -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 01.09.2021 o 14:09, Ralph Robison pisze: Try this link in the IBM Docs: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/search/.ws?scope=SSEQ5Y_14.0.0 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM .WS file reference
Try this link in the IBM Docs: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/search/.ws?scope=SSEQ5Y_14.0.0 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
PCOMM .WS file reference
I'm looking for reference manual describing .WS file parameters. Most of them is obvious, but some are not and I it seems undocumented. I browsed all available books searching some keyword - no entry. Examples: SessFlags SoundsOn (that is self-explanatory) RuleLinePos Any clue? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Upgrading PCOMM query
Thanks, Radoslaw - PCOMM v14.0.1 now running successfully on my desktop system Regards Sean On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 11:12, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > Yes, it is OK. > Most PCOMM upgrades, even minor ones are just full installation packages. > You can use it for upgrade or just installation from scratch. > IMHO there is no license enforcement hindrances. > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > (looking for new job) > Lodz, Poland > > > > > W dniu 14.04.2021 o 12:07, Sean Gleann pisze: > > I recently saw mention somewhere of PCOMM version 14, and realised that I > > am still using version 13 and have been doing so for longer than I can > > remember. > > As a result, I've started down the path of upgrading to version 14. > > > > The install package available from IBM appears to be > > "PCOMM-14.0.1-MLS-RefreshPack-x64", but I bit wary of actually using it. > > The 'RefreshPack' term in the file name implies - to me at least - that > it > > is an upgrade to version 14... and I can't find any sign of a 'base' > > install package. > > > > Can anyone say if it is OK to install this package over an existing > version > > 13 installation, please? > > > > Regards > > Sean > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Upgrading PCOMM query
Yes, it is OK. Most PCOMM upgrades, even minor ones are just full installation packages. You can use it for upgrade or just installation from scratch. IMHO there is no license enforcement hindrances. -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new job) Lodz, Poland W dniu 14.04.2021 o 12:07, Sean Gleann pisze: I recently saw mention somewhere of PCOMM version 14, and realised that I am still using version 13 and have been doing so for longer than I can remember. As a result, I've started down the path of upgrading to version 14. The install package available from IBM appears to be "PCOMM-14.0.1-MLS-RefreshPack-x64", but I bit wary of actually using it. The 'RefreshPack' term in the file name implies - to me at least - that it is an upgrade to version 14... and I can't find any sign of a 'base' install package. Can anyone say if it is OK to install this package over an existing version 13 installation, please? Regards Sean -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Upgrading PCOMM query
I recently saw mention somewhere of PCOMM version 14, and realised that I am still using version 13 and have been doing so for longer than I can remember. As a result, I've started down the path of upgrading to version 14. The install package available from IBM appears to be "PCOMM-14.0.1-MLS-RefreshPack-x64", but I bit wary of actually using it. The 'RefreshPack' term in the file name implies - to me at least - that it is an upgrade to version 14... and I can't find any sign of a 'base' install package. Can anyone say if it is OK to install this package over an existing version 13 installation, please? Regards Sean -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM PCOMM - copy/paste doesnt work
What version of PCOMM are you running? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 3:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM PCOMM - copy/paste doesnt work Looks like this is solved, but the first thing that occurred to me is a problem I have from time to time: As an old fart, I still use for copy and for paste, without having to stop and think about it. Mostly that still works, but whenever it doesn't (with some of the newer tools), I have to remember and then hunt down the and keystrokes. I'll bet I'm not the only one. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a good person is a little like expecting the bull not to attack you because you are a vegetarian. -Dennis Wholey */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Cameron Conacher Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 08:08 We had some upgrade applied a year or so ago. Afterwards I could not copy and paste. I did the following: Edit -> Preferences -> Keyboard Browse Choose 1.kemp Open Restart session Your mileage may vary, but that did the trick for me. > --- On Mar 30, 2021, at 8:02 AM, kekronbekron > <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Galaxy brain time, folks: > > There's an option in PCOMM that automatically copies whatever* to the > clipboard. > > whatever* = anything you draw a bounding box over. Selection tool or whatever > it's called. > And there's a setting to not persist the display of the bounding box, after > the above operation is done. > > No keyboard shortcuts necessary. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:14 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka >> wrote: >> I met such problems, but it was related to Windows problems, not >> PCOMM itself. Especially when RDP is in use. >> BTW: I strongly suggest to customize keyboard : Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V >> instead of pulldown menu. >> >> Few hints: >> Use COPY (alt-e-c) without selecting anything on the screen. In such >> case whole screen should be copied. >> Try to select some text, regular text (without special chars) and paste. >> Try to use copy-paste from Notepad to PCOMM (inversely) Try to use >> copy-paste from PCOMM to PCOMM. >> Obviously use COPY-PASTE between other apps, like two Notepad >> windows, Excel, etc. >> >> --- W dniu 30.03.2021 o 11:45, Peter pisze: >>> I am unable to.copy or paste within and to any outside application >>> like notpad. >>> When I do Alt +e+c and try to paste within or outside I get blank. >>> Tried resetting keyboard 3270 but no luck. >>> Is there any kind of trace options I can enable within 3270 pcom >>> emulator to verify the strokes ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM PCOMM - copy/paste doesnt work
Looks like this is solved, but the first thing that occurred to me is a problem I have from time to time: As an old fart, I still use for copy and for paste, without having to stop and think about it. Mostly that still works, but whenever it doesn't (with some of the newer tools), I have to remember and then hunt down the and keystrokes. I'll bet I'm not the only one. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are a good person is a little like expecting the bull not to attack you because you are a vegetarian. -Dennis Wholey */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Cameron Conacher Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 08:08 We had some upgrade applied a year or so ago. Afterwards I could not copy and paste. I did the following: Edit -> Preferences -> Keyboard Browse Choose 1.kemp Open Restart session Your mileage may vary, but that did the trick for me. > --- On Mar 30, 2021, at 8:02 AM, kekronbekron > <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Galaxy brain time, folks: > > There's an option in PCOMM that automatically copies whatever* to the > clipboard. > > whatever* = anything you draw a bounding box over. Selection tool or whatever > it's called. > And there's a setting to not persist the display of the bounding box, after > the above operation is done. > > No keyboard shortcuts necessary. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:14 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka >> wrote: >> I met such problems, but it was related to Windows problems, not >> PCOMM itself. Especially when RDP is in use. >> BTW: I strongly suggest to customize keyboard : Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V >> instead of pulldown menu. >> >> Few hints: >> Use COPY (alt-e-c) without selecting anything on the screen. In such >> case whole screen should be copied. >> Try to select some text, regular text (without special chars) and paste. >> Try to use copy-paste from Notepad to PCOMM (inversely) Try to use >> copy-paste from PCOMM to PCOMM. >> Obviously use COPY-PASTE between other apps, like two Notepad >> windows, Excel, etc. >> >> --- W dniu 30.03.2021 o 11:45, Peter pisze: >>> I am unable to.copy or paste within and to any outside application >>> like notpad. >>> When I do Alt +e+c and try to paste within or outside I get blank. >>> Tried resetting keyboard 3270 but no luck. >>> Is there any kind of trace options I can enable within 3270 pcom >>> emulator to verify the strokes ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM PCOMM - copy/paste doesnt work
We had some upgrade applied a year or so ago. Afterwards I could not copy and paste. I did the following: Edit -> Preferences -> Keyboard Browse Choose 1.kemp Open Restart session Your mileage may vary, but that did the trick for me. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 30, 2021, at 8:02 AM, kekronbekron > <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Galaxy brain time, folks: > > There's an option in PCOMM that automatically copies whatever* to the > clipboard. > > whatever* = anything you draw a bounding box over. Selection tool or whatever > it's called. > And there's a setting to not persist the display of the bounding box, after > the above operation is done. > > No keyboard shortcuts necessary. > > - KB > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ >> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:14 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka >> wrote: >> >> W dniu 30.03.2021 o 11:45, Peter pisze: >> >>> Hello >>> I am unable to.copy or paste within and to any outside application like >>> notpad. >>> When I do Alt +e+c and try to paste within or outside I get blank. Tried >>> resetting keyboard 3270 but no luck. >>> Is there any kind of trace options I can enable within 3270 pcom emulator >>> to verify the strokes ? >> >> I met such problems, but it was related to Windows problems, not PCOMM >> itself. Especially when RDP is in use. >> BTW: I strongly suggest to customize keyboard : Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V >> instead of pulldown menu. >> >> Few hints: >> Use COPY (alt-e-c) without selecting anything on the screen. In such >> case whole screen should be copied. >> Try to select some text, regular text (without special chars) and paste. >> Try to use copy-paste from Notepad to PCOMM (inversely) >> Try to use copy-paste from PCOMM to PCOMM. >> Obviously use COPY-PASTE between other apps, like two Notepad windows, >> Excel, etc. >> >> >> - >> >> Radoslaw Skorupka >> (looking for new job) >> Lodz, Poland >> >> - >> >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM PCOMM - copy/paste doesnt work
Galaxy brain time, folks: There's an option in PCOMM that automatically copies whatever* to the clipboard. whatever* = anything you draw a bounding box over. Selection tool or whatever it's called. And there's a setting to not persist the display of the bounding box, after the above operation is done. No keyboard shortcuts necessary. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:14 PM, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > W dniu 30.03.2021 o 11:45, Peter pisze: > > > Hello > > I am unable to.copy or paste within and to any outside application like > > notpad. > > When I do Alt +e+c and try to paste within or outside I get blank. Tried > > resetting keyboard 3270 but no luck. > > Is there any kind of trace options I can enable within 3270 pcom emulator > > to verify the strokes ? > > I met such problems, but it was related to Windows problems, not PCOMM > itself. Especially when RDP is in use. > BTW: I strongly suggest to customize keyboard : Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V > instead of pulldown menu. > > Few hints: > Use COPY (alt-e-c) without selecting anything on the screen. In such > case whole screen should be copied. > Try to select some text, regular text (without special chars) and paste. > Try to use copy-paste from Notepad to PCOMM (inversely) > Try to use copy-paste from PCOMM to PCOMM. > Obviously use COPY-PASTE between other apps, like two Notepad windows, > Excel, etc. > > > - > > Radoslaw Skorupka > (looking for new job) > Lodz, Poland > > - > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM PCOMM - copy/paste doesnt work
W dniu 30.03.2021 o 11:45, Peter pisze: Hello I am unable to.copy or paste within and to any outside application like notpad. When I do Alt +e+c and try to paste within or outside I get blank. Tried resetting keyboard 3270 but no luck. Is there any kind of trace options I can enable within 3270 pcom emulator to verify the strokes ? I met such problems, but it was related to Windows problems, not PCOMM itself. Especially when RDP is in use. BTW: I strongly suggest to customize keyboard : Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V instead of pulldown menu. Few hints: Use COPY (alt-e-c) without selecting anything on the screen. In such case whole screen should be copied. Try to select some text, regular text (without special chars) and paste. Try to use copy-paste from Notepad to PCOMM (inversely) Try to use copy-paste from PCOMM to PCOMM. Obviously use COPY-PASTE between other apps, like two Notepad windows, Excel, etc. -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new job) Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM PCOMM - copy/paste doesnt work
It happens to me with other emulators as well when the data contains unprintable character. It might be the reason. ITschak ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for z/OS, x/Linux & IBM I **| z/VM coming soon * On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 12:46 PM Peter wrote: > Hello > > I am unable to.copy or paste within and to any outside application like > notpad. > > When I do Alt +e+c and try to paste within or outside I get blank. Tried > resetting keyboard 3270 but no luck. > > Is there any kind of trace options I can enable within 3270 pcom emulator > to verify the strokes ? > > Peter > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM PCOMM - copy/paste doesnt work
Hello I am unable to.copy or paste within and to any outside application like notpad. When I do Alt +e+c and try to paste within or outside I get blank. Tried resetting keyboard 3270 but no luck. Is there any kind of trace options I can enable within 3270 pcom emulator to verify the strokes ? Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Using PCOMM with SSL ?
RACDCERT LISTCHN will show the whole signing chain. For the Windows client you do not need any intermediate certificates, nor do you need the server certificate*, you just need the root certificate. *Unless it is self-signed, in which case it IS (also) its own root certificate. If you do not know the label to put into LISTCHN, LISTRING should give it to you. If the root certificate is from a well-known CA (DigiCert, GoDaddy, Comodo, etc.) then you can download it from their Web site at no charge. Make sure it is the correct root certificate -- the one shown by LISTCHN -- they will have several. If the root certificate is from your internal PKI group then they should be very familiar with sending it to you in PC-compatible format. This should not be their first rodeo. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Hare Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 12:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using PCOMM with SSL ? If you can export the cert in z/OS then you ought to be able to use one of the RACF certificate displays to determine who signed it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Using PCOMM with SSL ?
If you can export the cert in z/OS then you ought to be able to use one of the RACF certificate displays to determine who signed it. I _think_ you can export this in Base64 format, move it to Windows as text, and import it into the Windows certificate store. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Using PCOMM with SSL ?
Your TN3270 server -- or AT-TLS as its proxy -- is using a server certificate. That certificate is signed by some CA. You will need that CA's root certificate installed in Windows. That CA might be - The PKI group at your site - Some well-known CA such as DigiCert or GoDaddy - The server certificate itself if "self-signed." The first question you need answered is "who signed the server certificate?" Your PKI group should be able to tell you that. If you get the certificate in the right format -- such as .crt -- you can just double-click on it to install it in Windows. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lionel B Dyck Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Using PCOMM with SSL ? I would like to enable PCOMM (14.0) to use a secure connection. It appears that I need to provide a certificate. IBM support told me to use RACDCERT to export the certificate and import it into PCOMM - that didn't work as there is no place that I can see to do such an import after I did a binary download of the cert file from z/OS to Windows. Can someone/anyone provide some guidance on setting up PCOMM to connect securely to z/OS (AT-TLS enabled)? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Using PCOMM with SSL ?
I would like to enable PCOMM (14.0) to use a secure connection. It appears that I need to provide a certificate. IBM support told me to use RACDCERT to export the certificate and import it into PCOMM - that didn't work as there is no place that I can see to do such an import after I did a binary download of the cert file from z/OS to Windows. Can someone/anyone provide some guidance on setting up PCOMM to connect securely to z/OS (AT-TLS enabled)? Thanks in advance. Lionel B. Dyck < Website: <https://www.lbdsoftware.com> https://www.lbdsoftware.com "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM
I found where I could use the keyboard mapping to do edit-copy and edit-paste. IBM or HCL finally fixed it in V14 Sent from my iPhone I promise you I can’t type or Spell on any smartphone > On Oct 11, 2020, at 13:11, Rod wrote: > > In more recent versions of PCOMM, to autocopy to clipboard a selected area > of text: > > Settings / Edit / CutCopy / Autocopy check box: > > "Autocopy > This option enables you to automatically copy the selected text to the > clipboard. > After you mark an area on the screen, the selected text is automatically > copied to the clipboard. When an existing selected area is moved to another > screen area, the text inside the new selected area is automatically copied to > the clipboard." > > - -- > Rod, UK > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM
In more recent versions of PCOMM, to autocopy to clipboard a selected area of text: Settings / Edit / CutCopy / Autocopy check box: "Autocopy This option enables you to automatically copy the selected text to the clipboard. After you mark an area on the screen, the selected text is automatically copied to the clipboard. When an existing selected area is moved to another screen area, the text inside the new selected area is automatically copied to the clipboard." - -- Rod, UK -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM
On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 16:41:01 +0200, R.S. wrote: >This is one of major advantages of PCOMM: key mapping. > >If you want, I can send you keyboard definition with Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V as >copy and paste. > For a user who spends much time in UNIX shell, those would be bad habits to form. Fortunately, Mac provides safer alternatives. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM
We have V14 and setting it up, as I found out is much, much easier that in the prior releases -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 9:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PCOMM W dniu 09.10.2020 o 15:16, Steve Beaver pisze: > One of the MAJOR reasons I hate PCOMM it that I have trouble setting > up CUT/PASTE as CNTL-C and CNTL-V. > > Are there any IBMers that can tell me how KEYBOARD map these functions. > The file is text and short: [Profile] ID=KMP Version=5 Description=copy, paste [KEYBOARD] C-KEY47=[edit-cut] C-KEY48=[edit-copy] CS-KEY48=[edit-copyappend] C-KEY49=[edit-paste] CS-KEY49=[edit-paste-next] -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM
You know what's better than CNTL-C and CNTL-V? A checkbox that will automatically copy content to clipboard, when you draw a bounding box. Not connected to a work machine right now to tell the actual option. But it exists in PCOMM.. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, October 9, 2020 2:44 PM, R.S. wrote: > W dniu 09.10.2020 o 15:16, Steve Beaver pisze: > > > One of the MAJOR reasons I hate PCOMM it that I have trouble setting up > > CUT/PASTE as > > CNTL-C and CNTL-V. > > Are there any IBMers that can tell me how KEYBOARD map these functions. > > The file is text and short: > > [Profile] > ID=KMP > Version=5 > Description=copy, paste > [KEYBOARD] > C-KEY47=[edit-cut] > C-KEY48=[edit-copy] > CS-KEY48=[edit-copyappend] > C-KEY49=[edit-paste] > CS-KEY49=[edit-paste-next] > > --- > > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > > > > Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: > > - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), > - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub > zapisałeś na dysku). > Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może > wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia > (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza > prawo i może podlegać karze. > > mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 > Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. > Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, > NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na > 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. > > If you are not the addressee of this message: > > - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), > - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have > printed out or saved). > This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used > exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates > (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the > law and may be penalised. > > mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, > 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for > the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court > Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital > amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM
W dniu 09.10.2020 o 15:16, Steve Beaver pisze: One of the MAJOR reasons I hate PCOMM it that I have trouble setting up CUT/PASTE as CNTL-C and CNTL-V. Are there any IBMers that can tell me how KEYBOARD map these functions. The file is text and short: [Profile] ID=KMP Version=5 Description=copy, paste [KEYBOARD] C-KEY47=[edit-cut] C-KEY48=[edit-copy] CS-KEY48=[edit-copyappend] C-KEY49=[edit-paste] CS-KEY49=[edit-paste-next] -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM
This is one of major advantages of PCOMM: key mapping. If you want, I can send you keyboard definition with Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V as copy and paste. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 09.10.2020 o 15:16, Steve Beaver pisze: One of the MAJOR reasons I hate PCOMM it that I have trouble setting up CUT/PASTE as CNTL-C and CNTL-V. Are there any IBMers that can tell me how KEYBOARD map these functions. TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN . == Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
PCOMM
One of the MAJOR reasons I hate PCOMM it that I have trouble setting up CUT/PASTE as CNTL-C and CNTL-V. Are there any IBMers that can tell me how KEYBOARD map these functions. TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3270 PCOMM Emulator support for Japanese
Cameron, I'll take a wild guess that you (or somebody else if not you) have installed Personal Communications without its Japanese font files. Yes, when you install Personal Communications you can select or deselect specific national language font file collections. You (or somebody else if not you) should be able to go back into the installation program to add the missing font file collection(s). My second wild guess is that your Microsoft Windows installation doesn't have the Japanese language group installed (fonts, keyboard, etc.) For example, in Microsoft Windows 10 (latest) you would select Settings (from the main Windows menu) -> Time & Language -> Language -> Add a preferred language. Then you can add Japanese from there. No, you don't have to switch your Windows display language to Japanese, but it's quite likely, especially for proper keyboard support, that you'll need Microsoft's Japanese language group installed. If you've checked both of those areas already then I've run out of my "wild" guesses. :-) Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Digital Asset & Other Industry Solutions, IBM Z & LinuxONE E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 3270 PCOMM Emulator support for Japanese
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 18:52:33 -0500, Cameron Conacher wrote: > >Anyone doing support work for Japanese language? >Using PCOMM Emulator sessions? > >I simply want to have IBM-930 available in the list. >Currently my list shows Italy, and then Latin America; no "J"s at all. > Don't know about PCOMM, but x3270 shows: Japanese w/Kana (CP930) Japanese w/Latin (CP939) My guess is that you'd have much trouble entering ISPF commands without the Latin quadrant. Choice of emulator depends on which hue of lipstick you want to adorn the pig with. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
3270 PCOMM Emulator support for Japanese
Hello folks, Quick question. Anyone doing support work for Japanese language? Using PCOMM Emulator sessions? I have been working at this for twenty+ years. We used to run EXTRA, and our own home grown emulator sessions. Now we are running PCOMM. All I want to be able to do, is have my PCOMM Emulator 3270 sessions installed so that I can choose configure, and then select Japanese from the Host Code Page drop down list. I simply want to have IBM-930 available in the list. Currently my list shows Italy, and then Latin America; no "J"s at all. I expected that I could have our support folks run some magic incantation to have IBM-930 added to my drop down selection list. I cannot read or write Japanese. I do not want to be able to type Japanese. I just want to be able to look at some Japanese text in a file, and first see the Japanese characters, and then second be able to browse the file in ISPF HEX mode to see the actual underlying hex values. So far I have had no luck. Is there anyone here who happens to be a PCOMM resource, and understands what I need to ask our support folks to do? Thanks in advance for any advice. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM PCOMM Utilities
Hello Alan, In the mean time i find out in IBM PCOMM knowledgecenter site that on PCOMM v13 IBM dropped the use of the old Certificate Management (which is part of the PCOMM utilities). Beginning on PCOMM v13 user (admin) should use the MSCAPI (Microsoft Certificate API). to mange the certificates. See the following url: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSEQ5Y_13.0.0/com.ibm.pcomm.doc/readme/readV130.html Hope that help, at least a little 😉, Best regards, Arye. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:08 AM Alan(GMAIL)Watthey wrote: > Arye, > > I have V13.0.2 and I can confirm that the Utilities option is not there. > I'd open a PMR (or is it Case nowadays) with IBM about this. > > I've already had them write a fix for me on V13 due to the Menu Bar > Customisation not working correctly. > > Regards, > Alan Watthey > > -Original Message- > From: Arye Shemer > Sent: 18 November 2019 10:14 pm > Subject: IBM PCOMM Utilities > > IHAC who is installing PCOMM 13. > The Utilities menu does not appears where is should be by IBM > KNOWLEDGECENTER: > From the Start -> Programs -> IBM® Personal Communications -> Utilities > menu, select Certificate Management. > > Customer is trying to use Certificate Manager to use the Key DB to import > the signer certificate. > > Has anyone understand the problem described above and help ? > > Thank you, > Arye Shemer. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM PCOMM Utilities
Arye, I have V13.0.2 and I can confirm that the Utilities option is not there. I'd open a PMR (or is it Case nowadays) with IBM about this. I've already had them write a fix for me on V13 due to the Menu Bar Customisation not working correctly. Regards, Alan Watthey -Original Message- From: Arye Shemer Sent: 18 November 2019 10:14 pm Subject: IBM PCOMM Utilities IHAC who is installing PCOMM 13. The Utilities menu does not appears where is should be by IBM KNOWLEDGECENTER: >From the Start -> Programs -> IBM® Personal Communications -> Utilities menu, >select Certificate Management. Customer is trying to use Certificate Manager to use the Key DB to import the signer certificate. Has anyone understand the problem described above and help ? Thank you, Arye Shemer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM PCOMM Utilities
IHAC who is installing PCOMM 13. The Utilities menu does not appears where is should be by IBM KNOWLEDGECENTER: >From the Start -> Programs -> IBM® Personal Communications -> Utilities menu, select Certificate Management. Customer is trying to use Certificate Manager to use the Key DB to import the signer certificate. Has anyone understand the problem described above and help ? Thank you, Arye Shemer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM printer session display is blank
Jake, Once you start up the PCOMM printer session, you will see it Active in VTAM, but you won't see the ACT/S until it is in session with something (like getting Acquired in a CICS region). We use a different emulator than PCOMM, so I can't really speak to how it's supposed to act. If we start a PC attached printer session, the screen shows a basic "Printer ready for work" message. David -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jake Anderson Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2019 11:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: PCOMM printer session display is blank Hi, Cross posted. This is regarding PCOM 5.7. I have configured the PCOM for a printer session with Telnet 3270. When I see printer LU, I see it as active but not with ACT/S. What I am expecting here is when I configure and connect PRINTER session in PCOMM, long time back I remember we used to receive a printers session display on PCOMM screen showing what is connected. For me it just shows blank but at the bottom it says connected. Is there any driver files that might be missing to show up the desired printer display screen in PCOMM ? Could someone please provide your direction on where I might be looking in ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
PCOMM printer session display is blank
Hi, Cross posted. This is regarding PCOM 5.7. I have configured the PCOM for a printer session with Telnet 3270. When I see printer LU, I see it as active but not with ACT/S. What I am expecting here is when I configure and connect PRINTER session in PCOMM, long time back I remember we used to receive a printers session display on PCOMM screen showing what is connected. For me it just shows blank but at the bottom it says connected. Is there any driver files that might be missing to show up the desired printer display screen in PCOMM ? Could someone please provide your direction on where I might be looking in ? Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Ip printway configuration PCOMM screen
Hi , This is about IP printway When I connect to port 524 of printway I get a screen saying connection status, host name , host type , printer , PDT file, CPI/LPI and best-fit scaling. Is this screen part of PCOMM print driver or IP printway printer driver ? Regards Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PCOMM and Windows 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_2016 With the 1709 update it is now called WIndows Server. Windows Server 2019 is being developed. Nano Server does not have a GUI, I doubt if the Powershell would work. On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:35 AM Beesley, Paul wrote: > > I've been asked to find out if PCOMM(aka D6152LL IBM Host Access Client > Package for Multiplatforms) supports Windows 2016. All I can find is that it > now supports Windows 10. Anyone know? > Thanks > > > Regards and thanks > Paul > > Atos, Atos Consulting, Worldline and Canopy The Open Cloud Company are > trading names used by the Atos group. The following trading entities are > registered in England and Wales: Atos IT Services UK Limited (registered > number 01245534), Atos Consulting Limited (registered number 04312380), Atos > Worldline UK Limited (registered number 08514184) and Canopy The Open Cloud > Company Limited (registration number 08011902). The registered office for > each is at Second Floor, Mid City Place, 71 High Holborn, London, WC1V 6EA. > The VAT No. for each is: GB232327983. > > This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely > for the addressee, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If > you receive this e-mail in error, you are not authorised to copy, disclose, > use or retain it. Please notify the sender immediately and delete this email > from your systems. As emails may be intercepted, amended or lost, they are > not secure. Atos therefore can accept no liability for any errors or their > content. Although Atos endeavours to maintain a virus-free network, we do not > warrant that this transmission is virus-free and can accept no liability for > any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. The risks are deemed to be > accepted by everyone who communicates with Atos by email. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
PCOMM and Windows 2016
I've been asked to find out if PCOMM(aka D6152LL IBM Host Access Client Package for Multiplatforms) supports Windows 2016. All I can find is that it now supports Windows 10. Anyone know? Thanks Regards and thanks Paul Atos, Atos Consulting, Worldline and Canopy The Open Cloud Company are trading names used by the Atos group. The following trading entities are registered in England and Wales: Atos IT Services UK Limited (registered number 01245534), Atos Consulting Limited (registered number 04312380), Atos Worldline UK Limited (registered number 08514184) and Canopy The Open Cloud Company Limited (registration number 08011902). The registered office for each is at Second Floor, Mid City Place, 71 High Holborn, London, WC1V 6EA. The VAT No. for each is: GB232327983. This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you receive this e-mail in error, you are not authorised to copy, disclose, use or retain it. Please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your systems. As emails may be intercepted, amended or lost, they are not secure. Atos therefore can accept no liability for any errors or their content. Although Atos endeavours to maintain a virus-free network, we do not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and can accept no liability for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. The risks are deemed to be accepted by everyone who communicates with Atos by email. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release
On 11/29/2017 11:41 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: ERROR DESCRIPTION: We just installed and deployed PCOMM 13.0. It was released November 9, 2017. The "about" screen shows 20171108 S - 13.0.0.0 The DEL key just beeps. Doesn't delete *any* characters! Love the use of "We" in the error description. So IBM just installed and deployed PCOMM 13.0 and found the problem. :-) Haha! They just took my PMR text verbatim as the APAR error description. It says it all! -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release
On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 11:04:08 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 11/22/2017 7:27 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: >> >> I'll let you know when I get a real APAR number (or whatever passes >> for an APAR in this "loosy goosey" off-platform DevOps programming >> world...) > > APAR Identifier .. IT23290 Last Changed 17/11/27 > PCOM: 3270 DELETE KEY DOES NOT WORK WITH PCOM V13 > > > Symptom .. IN INCORROUT Status ... INTRAN > Severity ... 3 Date Closed . > Component .. 5639I7000 Duplicate of > Reported Release . D00 Fixed Release > Component Name PCOMM COMBO-ENG Special Notice > Current Target Date .. Flags > SCP ... > Platform > > Status Detail: Not Available > > PE PTF List: > > PTF List: > > > Parent APAR: > Child APAR list: > > > ERROR DESCRIPTION: > We just installed and deployed PCOMM 13.0. It was released > November 9, 2017. > > The "about" screen shows 20171108 S - 13.0.0.0 > > The DEL key just beeps. Doesn't delete *any* characters! > > > LOCAL FIX: > None Love the use of "We" in the error description. So IBM just installed and deployed PCOMM 13.0 and found the problem. :-) Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS ITIL v3 Foundation Certified mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release
On 11/22/2017 7:27 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: I'll let you know when I get a real APAR number (or whatever passes for an APAR in this "loosy goosey" off-platform DevOps programming world...) APAR Identifier .. IT23290 Last Changed 17/11/27 PCOM: 3270 DELETE KEY DOES NOT WORK WITH PCOM V13 Symptom .. IN INCORROUT Status ... INTRAN Severity ... 3 Date Closed . Component .. 5639I7000 Duplicate of Reported Release . D00 Fixed Release Component Name PCOMM COMBO-ENG Special Notice Current Target Date .. Flags SCP ... Platform Status Detail: Not Available PE PTF List: PTF List: Parent APAR: Child APAR list: ERROR DESCRIPTION: We just installed and deployed PCOMM 13.0. It was released November 9, 2017. The "about" screen shows 20171108 S - 13.0.0.0 The DEL key just beeps. Doesn't delete *any* characters! LOCAL FIX: None -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release
On 11/27/2017 6:00 AM, Greg Price wrote: On 2017-11-27 7:00 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: What is "GDDM graphics", APA or PSS? "All Points Addressable" and "Programmable Symbol Sets" are what I take these acronyms (initializations?) to mean. PCOMM refers to these as: 1. "Vector Graphics" where you specify either "native" or "advanced" and ... 2. "Programmed Symbols" where you provide a cell type of "automatic" or "fixed" (with a cell size such as 9x16). I have used vector graphics quite a bit in RMF output and have had customers show me how they do as well. Our products leverage graphics escape characters, but not PS or vector graphics. We might, if they were more readily available. -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release
Have to many users that are dieing on V12.0.2 They still have not added the update to Fix Central. :( On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 11/21/2017 7:36 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: > >> This problem is not caused by a messed up keyboard map. Incredibly, the >> DEL key simply does not work any more! >> > > I opened a PMR and IBM was able to identify and fix the problem overnight. > I installed an updated pcskbd.dll this morning and all is well. > > Still shocked that I was the first to discover something so incredibly > fundamental! It proves to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that not a single > mainframe programmer actually *used* this product before it shipped... > > I'll let you know when I get a real APAR number (or whatever passes for an > APAR in this "loosy goosey" off-platform DevOps programming world...) > > > -- > Phoenix Software International > Edward E. Jaffe > 831 Parkview Drive North > El Segundo, CA 90245 > http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- The postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent Mainline’s positions or opinions Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Silly me; I thought that IND$FILE had been replaced by WSA, or some combination of FTP, SFTP and WSA. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release Tom Brennan wrote: >Well, I said the same thing about IND$FILE back in 1998, thinking it would be >totally replaced by FTP. I was certainly wrong about that! Today I think >people use IND$FILE more than ever for smaller file transfers. ... and FTP is supposed to be replaced by SFTP or FTPS ... but I could be wrong! ;-) >And there are folks like you without FTP available - I know how that is, >logging on to a customer's mainframe and needing to upload something like >SHOWMVS. It is indeed a PITA, especially if that customer's firewall and network settings block you to enter the mainframe. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 11/27/2017 10:18 AM, Dave Jones wrote: I would like to see x3270 support GDDM graphics. Did you ever write to Paul about that? -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I would like to see x3270 support GDDM graphics. It would come in handy viewing the GDDM graphics displays the IBM Performance Toolkit for z/VM produces now without having the extra hassle of making a csv file, downloading it to Excel and making a graph there. DJ David Jones | Managing Director for zSystems Services | z/VM, Linux, and Cloud 703.237.7370 (Office) | 281.578.7544 (Cell) Information Technology Company -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Hi Greg! Yes, with your help I did get the LPS functions going years ago in what I called V1.25. It seemed fine until some people I worked with started using it for SAS graphs and found errors. I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what I was doing wrong, and then (sorry) kind of decided there just wasn't enough call for it. And I you're right around Win 7 time. With early Vista TN3270 I wanted to go against the grain (and even MS standards) and pile everything in one directory. That included exe, dll, support, and even parameter files which were regularly updated by the user. The objective was to be able to copy/backup one directory and have everything. Win 7 spoiled that by enforcing the MS standards. Regards, Tom Greg Price wrote: But Tom has serious paying customers who don't really care for what I may or may not want in a TN3270 client and so I gather that these code changes were more of a prototype quality rather than production quality code and so were not copied into the product's code base used going forward. (Tom can correct me here if I have any of this wrong, of course.) I think it was Win7 that introduced the Program Data directory, yes? Anyway, Tom had to make a change to Vista so it was a happy Win7 citizen (IIRC). The net result of the new directory paradigm was that it was a pain to use the 1.25 version under Win7 and later so I gave it away in the end. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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LOL - at 06:15 with everyone else still sleeping. Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: ... and FTP is supposed to be replaced by SFTP or FTPS ... but I could be wrong! ;-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 2017-11-27 7:00 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: What is "GDDM graphics", APA or PSS? "All Points Addressable" and "Programmable Symbol Sets" are what I take these acronyms (initializations?) to mean. You could say that "GDDM graphics" is graphics performed by employing calls to GDDM. If displaying the graphics on a TSO 3270 terminal, then GDDM will employ one of PSS (really raster graphics - the original 3270 graphics) or what I call "native 3270 vector graphics" (no programmed symbols here - first supported by the 3179G I believe) or the even newer "enhanced PC handshaking vector graphics" implemented in the data stream after PCs pretending to be 3270 terminals became widespread. (The "PC handshaking" as I call it, was known as DOSLINK, then later on as OS2LINK, then as PCLK, and was not used with any real 3270 hardware, AFAIK.) Typically, the TSO terminal will only fully support one of these. The support for these can be determined by an application from the response to a Read Partition (Query). PCOMM3270 allows you to enable any one or none of these 3 3270 graphics options. In a sense, PSS does provide APA, it could be argued. Once you have the ability to specify the illumination of each pixel in any of the supported colors (ok, I want to say colours) independently from the illumination of any other pixel, you effectively have APA. (The 3179G which supported vector graphics did also support single-plane programmed symbols - meaning monochrome - whereas only triple-plane programmed symbols can provide multiple colours in a single character.) But really, with each symbol, you are specifying how a character display location is used whenever that symbol is displayed. This is very efficient (I think) if you have symbols that you are going to reuse because you can specify (load) them once and then reuse them many times with relatively small overhead. In practice, what were they used for? Diagrams? Text with custom symbols? I think mainly for graphs and charts - probably mainly from MVS performance data. There may well have been many other uses by applications, but I think it was MVS performance folks who were the majority of users. So how do you make a graph or chart? Well, I would make a big rectangle of pixels into which I would project the chart, and then I would map each 9x16 (or 8x10 or 10x8 or whatever the terminal - screen or printer - used) cell and load each symbol into consecutive codes points and then after the symbols were loaded then I would switch to that character set and display those points: x'4142434445446...FCFDFEFF' and then switch to the next character set and display those and so on until the whole chart was on display. Or for vector graphics, you could effectively display a bitmap by sending rows of pixels - again the single plane (monochrome - meaning you choose the 1 3270 colour to use) or triple-plane (RGB - really GRB for 3270) concepts apply. Anyway, enough of my waffle. Most of what I know about 3270 graphics is described here: http://www.prycroft6.com.au/misc/3270grfx.html I am hardly a world authority on the topic, so if you spot anything which needs to be corrected then please let me know - preferably with the correction to be made. :) Recently I optimized the REVIEW display of pictures using programmed symbols where LPS recycle did not occur, and so I may have broken the display where LPS recycle did occur (ie. larger pictures) so if there is a bug in that which you would like fixed, give the relevant test conditions and I'll try to have a look at it. REVIEW employs 3270 graphics to - display PCX files - display BMP files - display GIF files - don't do JPEGs because I don't understand how to decode them - assembler code donations welcome. Programmed symbol and native vector graphics terminals are supported by assembler invocations of TPUT. "PC handshaking" graphics is supported by calling GDDM. In RFE (REVIEW Front End - poor man's PDF for use when ISPF is broken or not present) when a specific volume is selected in option 3.4 at the bottom of the data set list when geometry suits and programmed symbols are supported, a row of graphics is displayed depicting the space usage of the volume, where each vertical slice of pixels represents 1 cylinder. That is, the scale is 1 pixel per track. Tracks addressed by the same head are in the same horizontal line of pixels. Colour code indicates use. (eg. white=VTOC, green=DSCB1/DSCB8 descriptors, yellow=DSCB3 descriptors, red=tracks in more than 1 extent (error) etc.) For completeness I'll mention that the RFE main menu uses programmed symbols under MVS/370 to display: - virtual storage page assignment - UIC frame population bar graph - real storage frame assignment. The colour codes are documented in the TSO HELP member for the RFE command. If you want to look at REVIEW, go ahead, but do not install releases 47.5 to 47.7 into produc
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On 2017-11-27 7:42 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: Years ago I was getting help from Greg Price Probably circa turn of the century (before Vista was also a release of Windows) I thought it might be nice if one the the not-prohibitively-expensive TN3270 clients supported a form of 3270 graphics, and so I sent an email or two to Tom with a view to convincing him that (a) programmed symbol graphics is fully documented in the 3270 Data Stream Programmer's Guide and (b) it is a "simple matter of programming" to implement it. Looking after a few data structure arrays must be bread-and-butter to anyone who can code up a reliable and function-rich TN3270 client, was my considered opinion, not that I really know about such things, of course. Basically, the TN3270 client has to - flag in the response to a Read Partition (Query) that it supports such functionality - understand and digest the LPS (Load Programmed Symbols) data stream - render loaded symbols into the screen buffer when SA or SFE orders request a switch to that character set. A point to remember is that the TN3270 client cannot simply have a storage array for each RWS (read/write storage) being emulated. An IBM 3279G will show the "green lightning" while an LPS data stream is being processed, but all of the RWSes added up cannot supply enough characters to paint an entire 32x80 screen. So at least some of them are used more than once, in the usual case, before input-inhibit is reset (or the keyboard is unlocked, if you prefer) to allow a user response. BUT - the symbols rendered when the "first lot" of symbols were in the RWSes must still be rendered that way, even though the relevant RWSes have been overlaid with a new set of symbol data, which is quite often used to render the bit-less-than-second-half of the screen. So, symbol data must be remembered by the TN3270 client until BOTH of - the symbols are no longer in any current RWS - the symbols are no longer displayed on the screen are true. At the time, Vista 1.24 was the current release. Once Tom took up the challenge, in fairly short order (no comment from me on how much work it did or did not take to do it) there was a quite impressive (to me) Vista 1.25 which did a very good job of displaying the graphics that I could produce. But Tom has serious paying customers who don't really care for what I may or may not want in a TN3270 client and so I gather that these code changes were more of a prototype quality rather than production quality code and so were not copied into the product's code base used going forward. (Tom can correct me here if I have any of this wrong, of course.) I think it was Win7 that introduced the Program Data directory, yes? Anyway, Tom had to make a change to Vista so it was a happy Win7 citizen (IIRC). The net result of the new directory paradigm was that it was a pain to use the 1.25 version under Win7 and later so I gave it away in the end. Hmmm, probably time to cast the net more widely... I still refer anyone who asks me about Vista 1.25 to Tom. I asked Paul Mattes about x3270 graphics support, and he said that it was a to-be-done thing and had been for years. I gave him a TSO graphics program in my brief dialogue with him, and he said that he now had his sample application, the lack of which had been one of the stumbling blocks up till that time. He seemed confident that rendering symbols constructed at run-time would not be a problem. I can't see that much has been done in this area in the years since, though. Still, he does work on it without pay (I believe) so that's understandable. It's probably better to keep it running satisfactorily for the existing customer base that to appease a former MVS sysprog. My next port-of-call was Hans Erik at Nexus Terminal. I went through my shtick and he also took up the challenge. Further, it is now part of the base product, and therefore officially supported, I believe. So, for regular 3270 work, I have the choice of two great TN3270 clients, both with expert support, and for my graphics work, there's Nexus Terminal. (Bonus points for spotting that the map on the http://www.nexit.com/ web page is from one of my sample pictures available from the REVIEW (TSO command) home page and from CBT file 134.) Cheers, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I forget, but the only big plotter was an EIA attached to a PDP-8 over in the Chemistry building. So I'd have to run the simulations on the mainframe and write the output to DTR and carry them over to the Chem lab. They didn't like me 'cause they couldn't play 'Duck Hunter' while the plotter was running. In a message dated 11/27/2017 12:56:49 AM Central Standard Time, martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com writes: At UCL in the early 1980’s we had Tektronix graphics terminals that were exactly as you said. Exotic and scarce devices, fun to watch :-) , compared to the character-based terminals we all had access to. (This on GEC 4000 series mainframes.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 2017-11-27 8:06 PM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: I guess, the original 3279 G displays had small (HP?) plotters attached to them, so that the content of the display could simply be hardcopied by pressing a certain key (or controlled by the application, maybe). Our SAS/MXG performance guy back in the day had a Memorex 3279G look-alike with its own printer that printed the screen image when the hardcopy print key on the terminal's keyboard was pressed. IBM may have had similar hardware, but OEM stuff was cheaper. We did have a real 3279G which exhibited the "green lightning" while the LPS (load programmed symbols) data stream was being processed. Cheers, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Am 27.11.2017 um 09:47 schrieb Elardus Engelbrecht: Bernd Oppolzer wrote: We used GDDM and 3279 G (IIRC) displays to do preview of our plotter outputs . ... This was in the 1985 to 1995 time frame. After that, the applications moved off the mainframe, to Unix workstations. Around 1990 - 2000, I and some of my colleagues used GDDM to display on a 3270 screen (PCOMM IIRC) the SAS graphs produced from SMF data. If the pic is looking great, neat and accurate, then we plot that on a desktop plotter. Now, today I am wondering how the graphs were transferred. I simply can't remember how these plotters are connected to the PCs and how the emulator screen is transferred to a plotter. Granted, those plotters were setup before I worked with them. I guess, the original 3279 G displays had small (HP?) plotters attached to them, so that the content of the display could simply be hardcopied by pressing a certain key (or controlled by the application, maybe). I recall that another public transport company in Bochum, Germany, had an APL application to interactively build timetables, and this application used APL and GDDM and the 3279 G display stations (and the attached hardcopy printer). Kind regards Bernd It was great 'fun' if someone who used the plotter, forgot to replace the pen caps back after usage... ;-) ... You then sit with dry pens and no available wet pens while managements wants the pics NOW!!! These days, we don't use any plotters at all. We are still have these ADM... DD statements in our TSO procs in case someone wants to use them. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Bernd Oppolzer wrote: >We used GDDM and 3279 G (IIRC) displays to do preview of our plotter outputs >. ... This was in the 1985 to 1995 time frame. After that, the applications moved off the mainframe, to Unix workstations. Around 1990 - 2000, I and some of my colleagues used GDDM to display on a 3270 screen (PCOMM IIRC) the SAS graphs produced from SMF data. If the pic is looking great, neat and accurate, then we plot that on a desktop plotter. Now, today I am wondering how the graphs were transferred. I simply can't remember how these plotters are connected to the PCs and how the emulator screen is transferred to a plotter. Granted, those plotters were setup before I worked with them. It was great 'fun' if someone who used the plotter, forgot to replace the pen caps back after usage... ;-) ... You then sit with dry pens and no available wet pens while managements wants the pics NOW!!! These days, we don't use any plotters at all. We are still have these ADM... DD statements in our TSO procs in case someone wants to use them. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Tom Brennan wrote: >Well, I said the same thing about IND$FILE back in 1998, thinking it would be >totally replaced by FTP. I was certainly wrong about that! Today I think >people use IND$FILE more than ever for smaller file transfers. ... and FTP is supposed to be replaced by SFTP or FTPS ... but I could be wrong! ;-) >And there are folks like you without FTP available - I know how that is, >logging on to a customer's mainframe and needing to upload something like >SHOWMVS. It is indeed a PITA, especially if that customer's firewall and network settings block you to enter the mainframe. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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We used GDDM and 3279 G (IIRC) displays to do preview of our plotter outputs (which were to pe printed on big electrostatic Calcomp plotters in the end). The (most technical) software was written in Pascal and Fortran and built the output using a graphic software which was called GKS (graphic kernel system). GKS had two adapters, one for the Calcomp plotter and one for GDDM, so the output (GKS metafile) could be plotted and shown at the display station at the same time. Later we added an adapter to HPGL (HP graphics language) and bought some HP plotters. This was in the 1985 to 1995 time frame. After that, the applications moved off the mainframe, to Unix workstations. IIRC, some other companies here in Germany (car manufacturers) did similar things, in the same time frame. There were even some CAD like systems running on the mainframe. Kind regards Bernd Am 26.11.2017 um 21:01 schrieb Seymour J Metz: What is "GDDM graphics", APA or PSS? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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At UCL in the early 1980’s we had Tektronix graphics terminals that were exactly as you said. Exotic and scarce devices, fun to watch :-) , compared to the character-based terminals we all had access to. (This on GEC 4000 series mainframes.) Martin Packer > On 27 Nov 2017, at 06:11, Tom Brennan wrote: > > Ha... max users=6 :) Sounds a bit like my first computer-related job. > Around 1979 I asked to be moved across the hall from the manual map > drafting department (ink on silk) to the new graphic computers. We had > 10 stations running sold by this company: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Computervision&d=DwICaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=BsPGKdq7-Vl8MW2-WOWZjlZ0NwmcFSpQCLphNznBSDQ&m=2_lduX0-vYU99tSZtC52Ob1_aDt3vfQtzlP2AxWzxjo&s=cUauBLOMke6VZSYZiT-RBVff3iRWsbEMpLk-a6M1Ys0&e= > > The displays were storage scopes, and you could see the computer draw a > very bright temporary line on the green phosphor which then "stuck" as a > charged image, but not nearly as bright as the original flash. Lines > (and multiple lines that approximated arcs) accumulated on the screen > until the drawing was complete. To erase something, the computer would > flash a high voltage to the screen that erased everything, and then it > repainted the entire image all over again (minus what was erased). You > had to have the patience of a saint. > > Edward Finnell wrote: >> Back in the sixties when Federal Systems was big, I seem to remember >> graphics on TI/HP terminals with oscilloscopes as screen via acoustic >> couplers no less. Later there were graphic accelerators that went thru the >> 5088. Haven't looked in a while but there was an option in PARMLIB for >> graphics support. >> >> Back when Bill Butterfield/GMR was head of SHARE one of his merry men gave a >> talk on their environment. It was a big 600j with a good bit of graphics. >> Don't remember the specifics but maxusers on TSO was 6. >> >> In a message dated 11/26/2017 2:43:55 PM Central Standard Time, >> t...@tombrennansoftware.com writes: >> >> >> APA = All Points Available (or Addressable), which would allow any dot >> on the screen to be set by the host. I assume that means I could send >> special codes to the screen to say, draw a (real) line or arc, or maybe >> just send an entire block of bits to the screen. And I think I read >> this function was never available on any real IBM hardware, only on >> emulators. >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Ha... max users=6 :) Sounds a bit like my first computer-related job. Around 1979 I asked to be moved across the hall from the manual map drafting department (ink on silk) to the new graphic computers. We had 10 stations running sold by this company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computervision The displays were storage scopes, and you could see the computer draw a very bright temporary line on the green phosphor which then "stuck" as a charged image, but not nearly as bright as the original flash. Lines (and multiple lines that approximated arcs) accumulated on the screen until the drawing was complete. To erase something, the computer would flash a high voltage to the screen that erased everything, and then it repainted the entire image all over again (minus what was erased). You had to have the patience of a saint. Edward Finnell wrote: Back in the sixties when Federal Systems was big, I seem to remember graphics on TI/HP terminals with oscilloscopes as screen via acoustic couplers no less. Later there were graphic accelerators that went thru the 5088. Haven't looked in a while but there was an option in PARMLIB for graphics support. Back when Bill Butterfield/GMR was head of SHARE one of his merry men gave a talk on their environment. It was a big 600j with a good bit of graphics. Don't remember the specifics but maxusers on TSO was 6. In a message dated 11/26/2017 2:43:55 PM Central Standard Time, t...@tombrennansoftware.com writes: APA = All Points Available (or Addressable), which would allow any dot on the screen to be set by the host. I assume that means I could send special codes to the screen to say, draw a (real) line or arc, or maybe just send an entire block of bits to the screen. And I think I read this function was never available on any real IBM hardware, only on emulators. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Back in the sixties when Federal Systems was big, I seem to remember graphics on TI/HP terminals with oscilloscopes as screen via acoustic couplers no less. Later there were graphic accelerators that went thru the 5088. Haven't looked in a while but there was an option in PARMLIB for graphics support. Back when Bill Butterfield/GMR was head of SHARE one of his merry men gave a talk on their environment. It was a big 600j with a good bit of graphics. Don't remember the specifics but maxusers on TSO was 6. In a message dated 11/26/2017 2:43:55 PM Central Standard Time, t...@tombrennansoftware.com writes: APA = All Points Available (or Addressable), which would allow any dot on the screen to be set by the host. I assume that means I could send special codes to the screen to say, draw a (real) line or arc, or maybe just send an entire block of bits to the screen. And I think I read this function was never available on any real IBM hardware, only on emulators. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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That might work some of the time, but it's just by chance. The function really needs some work and testing and thinking. The thinking is the hardest part, especially after I put a TV near my desk. Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: I'll be hornswoggled. ;-) . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Andrew Rowley Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release On 27/11/2017 06:10 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: If this morphs into a requirements session, one feature that would be welcome: handling UNIX file names seamlessly. From the get-go Vista could capture an MVS data set name, or a portion of it, with a simple right mouse click. UNIX file names require Highlight followed by Copy. A right mouse click on one of the slashes in the name works for me. -- Andrew Rowley Black Hill Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 27/11/2017 9:52 AM, Jack J. Woehr wrote: On 11/26/2017 1:29 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: Thanks, I think the default is GNOME now that you mention the name. Oh, I assumed all GUI's were X11. If GNOME is not, that's a plus for me - X11 applications always seem a hassle to connect (my uneducated opinion). They're all *on top of* the X Windowing System originally from MIT, usually the Xenocara cut these days. Qt , GTK+ etc can also use Wayland, a popular alternative to X11. For android and embedded devices there are alternative libraries that call DRI. GTK+ and Qt are *class libraries* implemented in terms of X. Gnome and KDE, etc., are Windowing Managers (which are pluggable in X) and associated Desktop Suites. Additionally, Gnome and KDE use data buses external to the X Windowing System to do their magic. Writing a new substantial GUI application? Program in Java and Swing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I'll be hornswoggled. ;-) . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Andrew Rowley Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release On 27/11/2017 06:10 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > If this morphs into a requirements session, one feature that would be > welcome: handling UNIX file names seamlessly. From the get-go Vista could > capture an MVS data set name, or a portion of it, with a simple right mouse > click. UNIX file names require Highlight followed by Copy. A right mouse click on one of the slashes in the name works for me. -- Andrew Rowley Black Hill Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 11/26/2017 1:29 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: Thanks, I think the default is GNOME now that you mention the name. Oh, I assumed all GUI's were X11. If GNOME is not, that's a plus for me - X11 applications always seem a hassle to connect (my uneducated opinion). They're all *on top of* the X Windowing System originally from MIT, usually the Xenocara cut these days. GTK+ and Qt are *class libraries* implemented in terms of X. Gnome and KDE, etc., are Windowing Managers (which are pluggable in X) and associated Desktop Suites. Additionally, Gnome and KDE use data buses external to the X Windowing System to do their magic. Writing a new substantial GUI application? Program in Java and Swing. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe www.softwoehr.com # with a fine understanding of human fallibility. - Carl Sagan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On 27/11/2017 06:10 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: If this morphs into a requirements session, one feature that would be welcome: handling UNIX file names seamlessly. From the get-go Vista could capture an MVS data set name, or a portion of it, with a simple right mouse click. UNIX file names require Highlight followed by Copy. A right mouse click on one of the slashes in the name works for me. -- Andrew Rowley Black Hill Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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GNOME uses GTK+, which uses X11. KDE uses QT, which uses X11. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release Thanks, I think the default is GNOME now that you mention the name. Oh, I assumed all GUI's were X11. If GNOME is not, that's a plus for me - X11 applications always seem a hassle to connect (my uneducated opinion). Seymour J Metz wrote: > There are many, of which the most common are GNOME and KDE; both GTK+ and QT > are based on X11. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Tom Brennan > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:18 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release > > Hi Andy... > > At first I thought "why bother" because people expect Linux software for > free, but a bigger issue is that I had never used a Linux GUI. Just > recently I've been working with SUSE and whatever the default install > GUI is, and it's pretty good - enough like Windows that it's easy for me > to use. So if I get time that's sure on my list of things to try. > > Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote: > >>Classification: Public >>Perhaps Tom could be persuaded to port Vista to Linux :-) >> > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Years ago I was getting help from Greg Price (who seemed to know more about 3270 protocol than anybody on the planet) to implement PSS which I called GDDM graphics. I don't know anything about APA. Let's see if I have the definitions correct: PSS = Programmed Symbol Set, the host creates little bitmaps the same size as each character cell, and sends them to the terminal. Once they all arrive, the host then sends characters that point to each one of those new symbols as needed to "draw" lines and arcs and whatever on the screen. I remember seeing real 3279's go crazy with "static" for a few seconds prior to displaying a graphic screen, and I bet that was during the process of loading the programmed symbols. APA = All Points Available (or Addressable), which would allow any dot on the screen to be set by the host. I assume that means I could send special codes to the screen to say, draw a (real) line or arc, or maybe just send an entire block of bits to the screen. And I think I read this function was never available on any real IBM hardware, only on emulators. Seymour J Metz wrote: What is "GDDM graphics", APA or PSS? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release Hi Robert, you're right... and many of those errors were because I wrote Vista initially for Windows 3.1, without using some of the built-in functions for dialog windows. I used more of my own code because I wanted things to look more like Win 95 while still running 3.1. That was fine at the time, but of course Windows advanced and my dialogs were left in the dust. So I need to work on that. And a minute ago I said I thought GDDM graphics are unused. Well, I said the same thing about IND$FILE back in 1998, thinking it would be totally replaced by FTP. I was certainly wrong about that! Today I think people use IND$FILE more than ever for smaller file transfers. And there are folks like you without FTP available - I know how that is, logging on to a customer's mainframe and needing to upload something like SHOWMVS. Robert Prins wrote: On 2017-11-22 11:24, David Cole wrote: I simply don't understand why anyone would still be putting up with PCOMM. Tom Brennan Vista remains both well and fully supported. It is, was, and will always be the best. It probably is the best, but it also has, at least for me, a few annoying "features": - the ind$file dialog cannot be resized (I cannot use FTP) - the File transfer settings menu lacks a pull-down with all options - it's not possible to keep macros in multiple directories - accidentally recording a macro (while trying to play it) doesn't warn you that the current macro will be overwritten Robert -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Thanks, I think the default is GNOME now that you mention the name. Oh, I assumed all GUI's were X11. If GNOME is not, that's a plus for me - X11 applications always seem a hassle to connect (my uneducated opinion). Seymour J Metz wrote: There are many, of which the most common are GNOME and KDE; both GTK+ and QT are based on X11. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release Hi Andy... At first I thought "why bother" because people expect Linux software for free, but a bigger issue is that I had never used a Linux GUI. Just recently I've been working with SUSE and whatever the default install GUI is, and it's pretty good - enough like Windows that it's easy for me to use. So if I get time that's sure on my list of things to try. Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote: Classification: Public Perhaps Tom could be persuaded to port Vista to Linux :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:06:57 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >There are many, of which the most common are GNOME and KDE; both GTK+ and QT >are based on X11. > Lots: https://renewablepcs.wordpress.com/about-linux/kde-gnome-or-xfce/ Ubuntu is reportedly trying to veer away from X11. I don't think it's time for that, given the pervasive availablity of X11 servers. __ >From: Tom Brennan >Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:18 PM > >At first I thought "why bother" because people expect Linux software for >free, but a bigger issue is that I had never used a Linux GUI. ... -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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There are many, of which the most common are GNOME and KDE; both GTK+ and QT are based on X11. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release Hi Andy... At first I thought "why bother" because people expect Linux software for free, but a bigger issue is that I had never used a Linux GUI. Just recently I've been working with SUSE and whatever the default install GUI is, and it's pretty good - enough like Windows that it's easy for me to use. So if I get time that's sure on my list of things to try. Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote: > Classification: Public > Perhaps Tom could be persuaded to port Vista to Linux :-) > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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What is "GDDM graphics", APA or PSS? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Brennan Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release Hi Robert, you're right... and many of those errors were because I wrote Vista initially for Windows 3.1, without using some of the built-in functions for dialog windows. I used more of my own code because I wanted things to look more like Win 95 while still running 3.1. That was fine at the time, but of course Windows advanced and my dialogs were left in the dust. So I need to work on that. And a minute ago I said I thought GDDM graphics are unused. Well, I said the same thing about IND$FILE back in 1998, thinking it would be totally replaced by FTP. I was certainly wrong about that! Today I think people use IND$FILE more than ever for smaller file transfers. And there are folks like you without FTP available - I know how that is, logging on to a customer's mainframe and needing to upload something like SHOWMVS. Robert Prins wrote: > On 2017-11-22 11:24, David Cole wrote: > >> I simply don't understand why anyone would still be putting up with >> PCOMM. >> >> Tom Brennan Vista remains both well and fully supported. >> It is, was, and will always be the best. > > > It probably is the best, but it also has, at least for me, a few > annoying "features": > > - the ind$file dialog cannot be resized (I cannot use FTP) > - the File transfer settings menu lacks a pull-down with all options > - it's not possible to keep macros in multiple directories > - accidentally recording a macro (while trying to play it) doesn't warn > you that the current macro will be overwritten > > Robert -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Well, it was planned well in advance of the breakaway activities. But if anyone here is thinking of going soon, we had no issues at all. There were Catalonia flags hanging from balconies, a few flags of Spain in opposition, and that's about it. But people do have strong opinions if asked: for example, when I talked about Barcelona with a guy in Madrid, he said, "They are not Spaniard." Ouch. Yes, we had a great time seeing the historic, super-artistic, and very proud people of both Barcelona and Madrid. Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: You guys picked an interesting time to visit Barcelona. Sounds like you had a great time... . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release Thanks Bill... I do try to keep up with email even when far away from my desk. And this was a fun thread to read just now. I have not read ibm-main for a while because my wife made me go on vacation to Spain. I think I could live in Barcelona - beautiful city. Bill Wilkie wrote: I haven't used anything else for many years now and NEVER had an Issue about support questions. Tom usually answers in a matter of minutes. bill From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Crayford Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release On 22/11/2017 4:46 PM, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote: Classification: Public Perhaps Tom could be persuaded to port Vista to Linux :-) That would be fantastic. I'm one of Toms customers (a very happy one). It may be worth a try to see how Vista goes with Wine. Same problem finding a decent 3270 emulator for macOS. If I had a choice of work machine I would choose a Mac but I need a decent 3270 emulator. I've used x3270, and I find it functional, but lacking. Both keyboard remapping and font support are stuck in the 90s. Doesn't support graphic escape characters, the menus are broken etc, etc. c3270 isn't much better. But they're free so can't grumble too much. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: 22 November 2017 05:51 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release On 22/11/2017 1:36 PM, Jack J. Woehr wrote: On 11/21/2017 8:44 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: Two words. Vista TN3270. One word: x3270 There's not much choice on Linux. x3270 is full of bugs and not well maintained. What we need is more cross-platform browser based 3270 emulators like the Mocha TN3270 chrome app. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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You guys picked an interesting time to visit Barcelona. Sounds like you had a great time... . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release Thanks Bill... I do try to keep up with email even when far away from my desk. And this was a fun thread to read just now. I have not read ibm-main for a while because my wife made me go on vacation to Spain. I think I could live in Barcelona - beautiful city. Bill Wilkie wrote: > I haven't used anything else for many years now and NEVER had an Issue about > support questions. Tom usually answers in a matter of minutes. > > bill > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on > behalf of David Crayford > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release > > On 22/11/2017 4:46 PM, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote: > >>Classification: Public >>Perhaps Tom could be persuaded to port Vista to Linux :-) > > > That would be fantastic. I'm one of Toms customers (a very happy one). > It may be worth a try to see how Vista goes with Wine. Same problem > finding a decent 3270 emulator for macOS. If I had a choice of work > machine I would choose a Mac but I need a decent 3270 emulator. > > >>I've used x3270, and I find it functional, but lacking. Both keyboard >>remapping and font support are stuck in the 90s. > > > Doesn't support graphic escape characters, the menus are broken etc, > etc. c3270 isn't much better. But they're free so can't grumble too much. > > >>Andy Styles >>z/Series Systems Programmer >> >>-Original Message- >>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] >>On Behalf Of David Crayford >>Sent: 22 November 2017 05:51 >>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release >> >>On 22/11/2017 1:36 PM, Jack J. Woehr wrote: >> >>>On 11/21/2017 8:44 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >>> >>>>Two words. Vista TN3270. >>> >>>One word: x3270 >>> >>> >> >>There's not much choice on Linux. x3270 is full of bugs and not well >>maintained. What we need is more cross-platform browser based 3270 emulators >>like the Mocha TN3270 chrome app. >> >>-- >>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >>email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> >>Lloyds Banking Group plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. >>Registered in Scotland no. SC95000. Telephone: 0131 225 4555. >> >>Lloyds Bank plc. Registered Office: 25 Gresham Street, London EC2V 7HN. >>Registered in England and Wales no. 2065. Telephone 0207626 1500. >> >>Bank of Scotland plc. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. >>Registered in Scotland no. SC327000. Telephone: 03457 801 801. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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The reason that Vista is so good is that I was actually user #2. Tom was #1. Surely the only emulator written from scratch by an experienced--professional--mainframe programmer. I did ask for a few additional features early on, but most of what I needed was already there, recognized--and provided--by user #1. If this morphs into a requirements session, one feature that would be welcome: handling UNIX file names seamlessly. From the get-go Vista could capture an MVS data set name, or a portion of it, with a simple right mouse click. UNIX file names require Highlight followed by Copy. Not a struggle, but a slight bump in the work flow. Just sayin. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release Thanks Skip (Vista user #1) - I remember that day. But you may not know that months prior my programming goal was to "Add enough functionality that Skip would accept it". So that day was the acid test. Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > I eat the same cooking. Have not used any other emulator since Tom moseyed by > my desk one day eons ago and said, I'd like you to try this out. I was > hooked. > > But I understand the need to keep one's feet wet in different > emulators. Even Tom did that for several reasons. Ha! I was more of > purist than Tom. ;-) > > . > . > J.O.Skip Robinson > Southern California Edison Company > Electric Dragon Team Paddler > SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager > 323-715-0595 Mobile > 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW > robin...@sce.com > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:50 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release > > On 11/21/2017 7:43 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > >>Tom Brennan Vista? > > > We use that too (an excellent product). We use most of the most > well-known emulators: PCOMM, Extra!, BlueZone, Hummingbird, QWS3270, > etc. even x3270 > > I know Tom "eats" his own "cooking," probably with a fork, knife, and spoon... > > -- > Phoenix Software International > Edward E. Jaffe > 831 Parkview Drive North > El Segundo, CA 90245 > http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Hi Robert, you're right... and many of those errors were because I wrote Vista initially for Windows 3.1, without using some of the built-in functions for dialog windows. I used more of my own code because I wanted things to look more like Win 95 while still running 3.1. That was fine at the time, but of course Windows advanced and my dialogs were left in the dust. So I need to work on that. And a minute ago I said I thought GDDM graphics are unused. Well, I said the same thing about IND$FILE back in 1998, thinking it would be totally replaced by FTP. I was certainly wrong about that! Today I think people use IND$FILE more than ever for smaller file transfers. And there are folks like you without FTP available - I know how that is, logging on to a customer's mainframe and needing to upload something like SHOWMVS. Robert Prins wrote: On 2017-11-22 11:24, David Cole wrote: I simply don't understand why anyone would still be putting up with PCOMM. Tom Brennan Vista remains both well and fully supported. It is, was, and will always be the best. It probably is the best, but it also has, at least for me, a few annoying "features": - the ind$file dialog cannot be resized (I cannot use FTP) - the File transfer settings menu lacks a pull-down with all options - it's not possible to keep macros in multiple directories - accidentally recording a macro (while trying to play it) doesn't warn you that the current macro will be overwritten Robert -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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In almost 20 years of Vista TN3270 support, I think I've had about 5 people asking for graphics, and most were for "fun" (to play chess, display JPG images, etc.) I don't think I ever had anyone ask me for something business oriented, such as a SAS graph. My thoughts are that virtually all graphics have long-since moved to PC products. I could be wrong of course. Timothy Sipples wrote: Personal Communications and Host On-Demand both support GDDM graphics, as a notable/important feature. I don't think there's anything else on Linux and Macintosh that supports GDDM except HOD. Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM Z and LinuxONE, AP/GCG/MEA E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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I thought about it early on, but a user would expect that the HLAPPI program they wrote for PCOMM would work with Vista without any modifications, and even without a recompile. Multiply that work by the number of other existing emulator products, and I saw it as a full-time job for about 5 people :) Sorry, that was a can of worms I didn't want to open. Ed Jaffe wrote: On 11/22/2017 3:57 AM, Dave Wade wrote: P.S. does VISTA support the PCOMM API's No... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Wow... that's interesting, but seems to add complexity I would have certainly avoided. I guess these days people assume servers are running and connections are available. David Crayford wrote: It's not zero footprint at all. It requires a back-end application server! A pure ZERO footprint 3270 emulator would be client-side only. On 22/11/2017 7:34 PM, Prem Swami wrote: IBM HACP EE could be of interest to the users looking for a pure ZERO footprint 3270 emulator - https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27050112 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Hi Andy... At first I thought "why bother" because people expect Linux software for free, but a bigger issue is that I had never used a Linux GUI. Just recently I've been working with SUSE and whatever the default install GUI is, and it's pretty good - enough like Windows that it's easy for me to use. So if I get time that's sure on my list of things to try. Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) wrote: Classification: Public Perhaps Tom could be persuaded to port Vista to Linux :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Thanks Dave. I hope I can live up to that. David Cole wrote: I simply don't understand why anyone would still be putting up with PCOMM. Tom Brennan Vista remains both well and fully supported. It is, was, and will always be the best. Dave Cole ColeSoft Marketing 414 Third Street, NE Charlottesville, VA 22902 EADDRESS:<mailto:dbc...@colesoft.com>dbc...@colesoft.com Home page: www.colesoft.com LinkedIn:www.xdc.com Facebook:www.facebook.com/colesoftware YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/colesoftware At 11/21/2017 04:30 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: Just installed PCOMM 13.0. It was released November 9, 2017. The DEL key just beeps. Doesn't delete *any* characters! IBM's PCOMM developers must not have actual 3270 users participating in the their early testing. I hereby volunteer... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Dave Cole ColeSoft Marketing 414 Third Street, NE Charlottesville, VA 22902 EADDRESS:<mailto:dbc...@colesoft.com>dbc...@colesoft.com Home page: www.colesoft.com LinkedIn:www.xdc.com Facebook:www.facebook.com/colesoftware YouTube: www.youtube.com/user/colesoftware -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Thanks Skip (Vista user #1) - I remember that day. But you may not know that months prior my programming goal was to "Add enough functionality that Skip would accept it". So that day was the acid test. Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: I eat the same cooking. Have not used any other emulator since Tom moseyed by my desk one day eons ago and said, I'd like you to try this out. I was hooked. But I understand the need to keep one's feet wet in different emulators. Even Tom did that for several reasons. Ha! I was more of purist than Tom. ;-) . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release On 11/21/2017 7:43 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Tom Brennan Vista? We use that too (an excellent product). We use most of the most well-known emulators: PCOMM, Extra!, BlueZone, Hummingbird, QWS3270, etc. even x3270 I know Tom "eats" his own "cooking," probably with a fork, knife, and spoon... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release
Yes, even though I don't do a lot of systems work these days, I still do logon to something every day. And since I never learned to touch-type, my backspace and delete keys are probably the most used :) Ed Jaffe wrote: On 11/21/2017 7:43 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Tom Brennan Vista? We use that too (an excellent product). We use most of the most well-known emulators: PCOMM, Extra!, BlueZone, Hummingbird, QWS3270, etc. even x3270 I know Tom "eats" his own "cooking," probably with a fork, knife, and spoon... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
