Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-20 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Edward Gould wrote: > [deleted] This is similar to turning encryption on for everything, no way to > back it out and not loose data. How are people dealing with encryption and > backout? > > Ed Enabling on a brand new device, or when you want to reformat the de

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-19 Thread Edward Gould
> On Dec 18, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Tom Conley wrote: > > Finally completed at 316 minutes, or 5 hours and 16 minutes for those of you > at home. Can't wait until I need maint to fix a Sev 1 and run into this. > What a joke. I can run Windows update anytime I want, why the hell can't I > do tha

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Clark Morris
-6132 Office ?=== NEW >robin...@sce.com > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >Behalf Of Ed Jaffe >Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 9:31 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: (External):Re: ShopZ 24/7? Ma

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2017-12-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
6-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much On

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-12-18, at 11:20:33, Ed Jaffe wrote: > > Rather than downloading ALL, we choose to download only that which is > recommended by IBM. What's wrong with that? > > SET BOUNDARY (GLOBAL) . > RECEIVE ORDER( > ORDERSERVER(ORDSRVR) > CONTENT(RECOMMENDED) >

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/18/2017 11:20 AM, Jousma, David wrote: Nothing wrong with that. But why? Invariably, you'll need that one PTF that isn’t there Haven't had that happen, but if it ever does I will remember this conversation... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Driv

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Jousma, David
46 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 1:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much **CAUTION EXTERNAL

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Allan Staller
What he said! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 12:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much On 12/18/2017 1:19 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: >

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Tom Conley
On 12/18/2017 1:19 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 12/18/2017 9:39 AM, Jousma, David wrote: ... from your comments, and from others seem to imply, that it also sounds like you are picking/choosing what PTF's to download?   Why not order/download everything available on a weekly basis? Rather than down

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2017-12-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
anager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ShopZ 24/7? Ma

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/18/2017 9:39 AM, Jousma, David wrote: ... from your comments, and from others seem to imply, that it also sounds like you are picking/choosing what PTF's to download? Why not order/download everything available on a weekly basis? Rather than downloading ALL, we choose to download only

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
U > Date: 12/18/2017 10:40 AM > Subject: Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > Tom, > > FWIW, I agree with everything you are saying with regards to > availability. But, from your comments, and from others seem to > imply

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Tom Conley
On 12/18/2017 12:29 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 12/18/2017 8:30 AM, Tom Conley wrote: We'll bring this up at SHARE yet again, and IBM will assure us they're working on it, they'll point to their 99.99 uptime, and then nothing will change. Funny how the downtime (.001%? Really? No! That counts only

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Jousma, David
nt: Monday, December 18, 2017 11:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** On 12/17/2017 12:52 PM, Tom Conley wrote: > On 12/17/2017 9:59 AM, P

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/18/2017 8:30 AM, Tom Conley wrote: We'll bring this up at SHARE yet again, and IBM will assure us they're working on it, they'll point to their 99.99 uptime, and then nothing will change. Funny how the downtime (.001%? Really? No! That counts only "unexpected" outages...) always seems t

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Allan Staller
What he said! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much On 12/17/2017 12:52 PM, Tom Conley wrote

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Tom Conley
On 12/17/2017 12:52 PM, Tom Conley wrote: On 12/17/2017 9:59 AM, Pinnacle wrote: Thought ShopZ was supposed to be available 24/7, but it appears to be taking the weekend off.  Been trying to get 3 PTF's for over an hour now.  Not like anybody would apply maintenance on a weekend or anything...

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-18 Thread Allan Staller
DU Subject: Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much On 12/17/2017 9:59 AM, Pinnacle wrote: > Thought ShopZ was supposed to be available 24/7, but it appears to be > taking the weekend off. Been trying to get 3 PTF's for over an hour > now. Not like anybody would apply maintenance

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/17/2017 9:53 AM, Tom Conley wrote: 4 hours and counting It finally started working about 20 minutes ago... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-17 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 12/17/2017 7:01 AM, Pinnacle wrote: Thought ShopZ was supposed to be available 24/7, but it appears to be taking the weekend off.  Been trying to get 3 PTF's for over an hour now.  Not like anybody would apply maintenance on a weekend or anything Yeah... GIM68700I    ORDER ORD6 HA

Re: ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-17 Thread Tom Conley
On 12/17/2017 9:59 AM, Pinnacle wrote: Thought ShopZ was supposed to be available 24/7, but it appears to be taking the weekend off.  Been trying to get 3 PTF's for over an hour now.  Not like anybody would apply maintenance on a weekend or anything Regards, Tom Conley 4 hours and count

ShopZ 24/7? Maybe not so much....

2017-12-17 Thread Pinnacle
Thought ShopZ was supposed to be available 24/7, but it appears to be taking the weekend off.  Been trying to get 3 PTF's for over an hour now.  Not like anybody would apply maintenance on a weekend or anything Regards, Tom Conley -- ---