On 10/07/2013 1:04 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Based on the announced capability to use new (to COBOL) TUNE and ARCH compiler
options, I suspect the answer to that question is that it is the same shared
backend.
I heard a rumour that COBOL was going to use the same back-end that the
We put DB2 databases in their own storage group, and don't take DSS backups.
Same with IMS. Application needs to be shut down and use DB2 / IMS /
Database backup methods. The ADRDSSU backup with the transaction
going would probably not be in a consistent state, I.E. some parts
include a specific
Darth Keller wrote:
Well, this gets more interesting as it appears that there must be some
automation in place as I'm only seeing the IGD010*I (* = 07, 08, 09, 10) on
2 of my 4 production LPAR's.
More reasons for a SHARE requirement!
Are you sure your messages are not being suppressed?
I
Mike Schwab wrote:
http://www.dvdrewinder.com/
Hmmm, cute and entertaining devices, I need 2 of them! One for Local usage and
another at my DRP site! ;-D
I believe in recycling my old DVDs. Use them as placeholders for my cup of hot
coffee. ;-)
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
In 9391203323671928.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/09/2013
at 09:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Thanks! I never woulda thoughta that. Seems to work for sed and
grep; nearly an exhaustive sample. Now I need to try to understand
it:
The sequence (? starts an
This reminds me of an experiment of a colleague of mine, several years
ago. He tried to transform a Rexx program of about one screen of
statements into one Rexx statement, using nesting, recursive programming
and other fancy stuff. It took him about a week, but he succeeded. Of
course it was
GIYF...
principles of operation in the address bar of Chrome and the first link is
the right one...
Cheers,
Jantje.
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On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 18:12:38 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
My test program, isbuffer.c:
...
in which they were executed. However, when I compile in Enhanced
ASCII mode and link with xplink, I get:
Could that be due to optimisation of the code? I know that the code optimiser
In 7172652089479824.wa.zatlas1yahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/09/2013
at 10:27 PM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com said:
I asked, but I am asking again, with regard to the fact that we are
talking about C,
The answer doesn't depend on the language.
how would I pass quoted file names (i.e.
In 8D261BD3BE29432A8E80B90B218DA523@RichardPC, on 07/09/2013
at 04:51 PM, Richard Verville r.vervi...@videotron.ca said:
that link has the same manual I have already
z/Architecture Principles of Operation, SA22-7832-09?
and the LGFI instruction is not in it
P. 7-219
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In 1193627443508296.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/09/2013
at 03:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
It's a pity that QPAM isn't invented,
Actually, it[1] was, in TSS/360. See FIND, GET, PUT and STOW in IBM
Time Sharing System Assembler User Macro Instructions,
In 2304481172006741.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/09/2013
at 02:31 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
But is there a general case: a regex that will never match any
string whatever?
Well, (*FAIL) is experimental, but what about (?!)?
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The db2 image backup is backing db2 data file online, while dss backups
different datasets that are not part of db2 managed. But when they both write
to same vritual tape devices, dss backup job slowed down by db2 image backup.
Is there a method to prevent this while allow both jobs ran
Right, but when you get there you have to sign in to download the book.
(A process that sometimes works, sometimes not.)
Wouldn't it be better for the Elements and Features page to include the latest
version?
Yes, I know that Elements and Features is a z/OS-relevant page and Principles
Victor,
Do you have OPT(4) coded for your DSS Dumps?
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The db2 image backup is backing
Ex APL programmer?
snip
This reminds me of an experiment of a colleague of mine, several years ago. He
tried to transform a Rexx program of about one screen of statements into one
Rexx statement, using nesting, recursive programming and other fancy stuff. It
took him about a week, but he
No idea, he is not working here anymore.
Kees.
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Ex APL programmer?
J R wrote
| You shouldn't have to google to find this book.
about the PrOp, and you need not do so. The IBM Publications Center website
http://www-05.ibm.com/e-business/linkweb/publications/servlet/pbi.wss
will give you a list of all of the available, downloadable and/or
Could you post your DFDSS control cards?
Lizette
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I am trying to look at how to use the PCRE from Ze'ev Atlas in a REXX
program in a REXXish way. PCRE is written in C and is basically
implemented as a bunch of subroutines. Being in C means this requires LE. I
could just write my code to be LE compliant and then invoke it from REXX
via a LINKPGM,
Gil,
I believe that /.^./ or /.$./ both satisfy your requirement.
Cheers,
Peter Stockdill.
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Hello,
just a thought but are the datasets being backed up via an hbackds command?
they might have an explicit retaindays coded (new in Z/os 1.11 i think) which
would negate the mgmtclas settings.
Also, have another look through the hsm backup logs when expirebv is running
for the datasets in
yes, opt(4) is used.
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:30 AM, John McKown
john.archie.mck...@gmail.comwrote:
I am trying to look at how to use the PCRE from Ze'ev Atlas in a REXX
program in a REXXish way. PCRE is written in C and is basically
implemented as a bunch of subroutines. Being in C means this requires LE. I
Disclaimer - I'm not now programming in C or C++ these days, so take my
comments with a pich of salt.
Jantje wrote:
Could that be due to optimisation of the code? I know that the code optimiser
sometimes does strange things and there are remarks to that end in the
compiler documentation.
Is the ADMIN parameter coded as well?
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yes, opt(4) is used.
On 7/10/2013 10:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Disclaimer - I'm not now programming in C or C++ these days, so take my
comments with a pich of salt.
Jantje wrote:
Could that be due to optimisation of the code? I know that the code optimiser
sometimes does strange things and there are
On 7/10/2013 10:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Oops - hit wrong button before.
It should work for Paul Gilmartin. But I find it still *strange* that
output from ONE loop is arranged by type of output medium, not by
execution sequence.
But I believe from my fading memory that stderr are
Maybe your tape subsystem slows down due to more parallel tasks?
R.S.
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This drifted into a discussion of manual links. Did anyone address
Has anyone done benchmarks on different scenarios with instructions with
immediate relative instructions versus the old instructions
My personal opinion are
1. I doubt that the differences are significant unless you are
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:31:38 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
On 7/10/2013 10:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
It should work for Paul Gilmartin. But I find it still *strange* that
output from ONE loop is arranged by type of output medium, not by
execution sequence.
I have dealt with some
Sam, what do you mean by call sub addr vs call sub from the Rexx point of
view? AFAIK there is no capability in z/OS Rexx to call a subroutine by
address.
John, I strongly suspect that the efficiency of a CEEPIPI setup will more than
pay you back for the complexity of the setup for all but a
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 21:33:20 +0800, Peter Stockdill wrote:
I believe that /.^./ or /.$./ both satisfy your requirement.
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 08:45:17 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
and he has the right idea. What is needed is a substantive
contradiction, one, say, of the logical form
¬(a | ¬a)
From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org
Date: 07/10/2013 11:15 AM
This drifted into a discussion of manual links. Did anyone address
Has anyone done benchmarks on different scenarios with instructions with
immediate relative instructions versus the old instructions
My personal opinion are
I was going to keep the CEEPIPI token in a z/OS task level name/token pair.
I don't like (really, I enjoy) being tacky, but the less I depend on the
user/programmer, the better I like it. Messing up a name/token pair is much
more difficult for a REXX programmer than messing up the contents of a
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Farley, Peter x23353
peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote:
Sam, what do you mean by call sub addr vs call sub from the Rexx point
of view? AFAIK there is no capability in z/OS Rexx to call a subroutine by
address.
I'm clearly showing off my deep and extensive
Great ideas, Dave. You're right, without knowing the HSM names for the backups,
I wasn't able to see the datasets in HSM's job logs. I'm now archiving the BCDS
list daily so I can see when the backups disappear. Nothing yet.
The backups are being done by HSM only; no HBACKDS commands run.
On Tue, 9 Jul 2013 15:30:12 -0400, Richard Verville
r.vervi...@videotron.ca asked:
Has anyone done benchmarks on different scenarios with instructions with
immediate relative instructions versus the old instructions. snip
The more important issue is memory access: CPU speeds have increased
I think you were referring to the CEEPIPI functions named call_sub and
call_sub_addr. call_sub is the CEEPIPI subfunction which calls a LE
enabled routine by symbolic name (like LINK does). Where call_sub_addr is
the CEEPIPI subfunction which calls an LE enabled routine by its load point
address
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From: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com
This reminds me of an experiment of a colleague of mine, several years
ago. He tried to transform a Rexx program of about one screen of
statements into
In other words, if one had to venture a *guess* it would be that the
immediate instructions were in practice a heck of a lot faster.
(Don't know that this sort of issue is relevant to the relative versus
branch/displacement comparison.)
Charles
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John Ehrman knows much more about what kinds of older mainframes are
still in use than I do, and I imagine that he had good reason to use
the qualifying language . . . so if your processor supports useful
immediate operands, take advantage.
Still, the extended-immediate facility dates back ten
Hello,
I have been asked if there is a option to get current DST date
automatically.
To make my question a bit clearer:
Since in our zone the DST is not on fixed date (recently has been moved
again) customers asking for an option to get current DST from some internal
or external sources.
Dave: I get the daily digest so this might already have been pointed out...
We don't HSM here (we're an Innovation shop) but is the HSM migration/recall
process you talk about the same as Space Management cycle from the manual? I
would suspect that HSM preserves the actual dataset size(s)
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:12:51 +0300, Arye Shemer wrote:
Since in our zone the DST is not on fixed date (recently has been moved
again) customers asking for an option to get current DST from some internal
or external sources.
Something like NTP Server.
Thank you for any suggestion or pointing to
Afaik, there is no such facility for z/OS(z/OS). For (z/OS(OMVS) the TZ
environment variable will handle DST offsets automatically. However, this
variable needs to be set in several places.
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Ah, well. It was a flash in the pan suggestion since we don't HSM
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On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:29:53 +, Staller, Allan wrote:
Afaik, there is no such facility for z/OS(z/OS). For (z/OS(OMVS) the TZ
environment variable will handle DST offsets automatically. However, this
variable needs to be set in several places.
I'll disagree with the automatically part.
Hi all ,
We have an issue with LLA after activating new linklist set . There are 2
different scenarios given below
Scenario 1 : The current linklist set is LNKLST00 . We added a new dataset
by copying to LNKLST01 and activated LNKLST01 . With SETPROG
LNKLST,ACTIVATE ,NAME=LNKLST01 command ,
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:22:34 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
Now an extended directory shows me:
user@Solaris:469$ ls -alE
total 38 Date Timezone
drwxr-sr-x 2 user 5134 2013-07-10 15:02:59.226383291 -0600
Yes . When you activate a new LNKLST , LLA gets refreshed automatically .
Probably about the virtual location.
We are getting a S213-04 when trying to flash this one volume. The VTOC on that
volume is at a different location than the target flash output volume. She is
trying to say that will cause a problem.
It's an older volume and we have since changed the
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 16:34:21 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
Complain, complain, complain. :-) You use the term flaw loosely.
It may be a shortcoming compared to other unix environments that you
work on or prefer, but I wouldn't call it a flaw. Remember that z/OS unix
is based on the posix
In bay169-w821ca84a522665f781f230a3...@phx.gbl, on 07/10/2013
at 07:54 AM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com said:
You shouldn't have to google to find this book.
That's better than google not being able to find it. Where is Systems
Network Architecture Format and Protocol Reference Manual:
Same dataset name, different volume makes (in my past experience) LLA and
LNKLST unhappy. Been a long time, but I try not to do that one.
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University
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It has taken us a while, but we now have a modern backend (code generator
and optimizer) for COBOL that can exploit the latest hardware, and will
support DFP, AMODE 64 and many of the other z/OS system features that we
have not be able to exploit in the past.
Is that new backend bespoke for
So should we ZAAP,ZIIP or z??P?
In a message dated 07/10/13 19:21:45 Central Daylight Time,
tmr...@stlvm20.vnet.ibm.com writes:
Eventually all of the active compilers will use the same
backend so that when new hardware comes out we can exploit it with all langs
quickly!
Forget zAAP for sure on current hardware. For now, zIIP.
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In
b02591487f7840458e83497368f872e613343...@txfb-exch-db-01.txfb-ins.com,
on 07/10/2013
at 08:45 PM, Herring, Bobby bherr...@txfb-ins.com said:
Is there a way to show the exact CCHHRR location of the VTOC now?
It's in the volume label, which IEHLIST doesn't print, but I thought
that it was
In 0382727397514044.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
07/10/2013
at 10:47 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
I was taught in grammar school that q occurs only followed by u.
Before the ascendancy of Middle Eastern politics.
Welsh?
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In
CAE1XxDH57SkYrr7F-TKpjxdxcs_vOefqaFPm6RD=lnzlm5z...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/10/2013
at 02:44 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Let me also take this opportunity to add my personal view that
base-register-displacement schemes are at best obsolescent in new
code.
Nonsense; they're
Peter Farley opines:
They [IBM] have, time and again, shown themselves quite capable of
deliberately reducing the effectiveness of new technology to preserve
their revenue stream for a few more quarters.
Examples?
I'll offer a counterexample: the System/360. IBM led the electromechanical
I find it much easier to use subcommand enviromments
http://users.tpg.com.au/crayford/rexxre.txt.
I setup the CEEPIPI environment in RTKSUBCM, allocate all the memory I
need for the command processor routines (saveareas etc) and store a
control block in the SUBCOMTB_TOKEN field.
When the
Timothy:
It depends... lets see some results before congratulating them. *IF*
Java is any indications I suspect there isn't a big enough machine
around to run one program.
Face it JAVA is a PIG when it comes to burning up cpu resources.
Ed
On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:06 AM, Timothy Sipples
On 7/10/2013 11:54 AM, John Eells wrote:
And, finally, that the branch instruction itself does not stand alone.
One must load a register to use it as a base in order to establish
addressability, and load another to use it as a displacement register,
and Load instructions can cause real
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