Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-12 Thread Charles Mills
New developer. I'm an FTP and TN3270 kind of a guy. The young 'uns are more ssh, On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 10:50:21 -0500, Erik Janssen wrote: >I'm not sure how important your system is, but the example you send indicates >that the bpxas is running on behalf a ssh session. If most of the bpxas

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Charles Mills
itt >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:48 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up? > >Here is my entry in IEFJOBS: > >//BPXASJOB (SYSTEMS),'USS ADDRESS',MSGCLASS=Z >//BPXASEXEC PROC=BPXAS,GETWORK=BPXPRJSR > &

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Charles, Correct it is VENDOR.PROCLIB. USER.PROCLIB was on our old ADCD back in the old FLEX days. We implemented some automation on Dallas to clean up spool (OTTO from the CBTTAPE). We also paid for a lot of additional disk space so we could extend JES spool. On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 1:34 AM

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
: Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up? Here is my entry in IEFJOBS: //BPXASJOB (SYSTEMS),'USS ADDRESS',MSGCLASS=Z //BPXASEXEC PROC=BPXAS,GETWORK=BPXPRJSR So, yes, IEFJOBS does work. Matthew On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:36:40 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >That menti

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Matthew Stitt
_ >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of >Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 11:25 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Erik Janssen
I'm not sure how important your system is, but the example you send indicates that the bpxas is running on behalf a ssh session. If most of the bpxas address spaces are running for ssh, you might want to investigate why you suddenly see an increase of ssh sessions coming into your system. Kind

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Charles Mills
Incredibly busy this AM but wanted to at least say that I used @sas's "real deal" *exactly* as presented below and it seems to be working perfectly. May comment on some later posts if I get a moment. If any Dallas customers are reading this a year or two from now, note that @sas's

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 09:04:22 -0500, Wendell Lovewell < wrote: >Charles, imo Seymour was on the right track. > >Could it have been that someone issued a $T JOBCLASS command? (Or maybe from >SDSF.) > Does this help:

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Charles, imo Seymour was on the right track. Could it have been that someone issued a $T JOBCLASS command? (Or maybe from SDSF.) We usually run with STC and TSU OUTDISP=(PURGE,PURGE), and the SYSOUTs disappear at end of task. But sometimes I want to see the output so I issue $T

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:33:28 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >I've used the Dallas systems. You are free to customize. IBM provide >USER.PROCLIB etc. It allows you to add your custom routines which can allow >such things as MSGCLASS=Z et al. > No, no, no! No customization; it should *just*work*!

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I've used the Dallas systems. You are free to customize. IBM provide USER.PROCLIB etc. It allows you to add your custom routines which can allow such things as MSGCLASS=Z et al. On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 2:10 PM Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 10

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:58:29 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: >@Gil, which IBM? This is a Dallas system, and it is set up the way IBM >sets up Dallas systems, which might be a third case in addition to "defaults" >and "recommendations." We have changed very little of that sort of thing. > If you

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
What's in JOBCLASS(STC)? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Smith Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 10:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up? Well, here's the real deal

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Steve Smith
Well, here's the real deal: //BPXASJOB 1,MSGCLASS=Z //BPXAS PROC //* //* Note: This is a started JOB now, so the MSGCLASS can be set. //*Z is purged automatically. Change to X if you want to //*

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/10/2023 6:31 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: Actually, you can have a Job card in the PROC in PROCLIB but it's not as flexible as using IEFJOBS. I experimented with this and learned that you are correct. However, I encountered two JCL errors in the process. The first was: IEFC005I PROC

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Gibney, Dave
Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up? > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > On 4/10/2023 4:58 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > > Why would I want to do that? How would that solve my problem? > > If you wish to specify a job card for a started task, you need IEFJOBs. >

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/10/2023 4:58 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Why would I want to do that? How would that solve my problem? If you wish to specify a job card for a started task, you need IEFJOBs. Simple as that. -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Jousma, David
M-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up? **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:11:11 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: > >Okay, I confirmed tha

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Charles Mills
@Gil, which IBM? This is a Dallas system, and it is set up the way IBM sets up Dallas systems, which might be a third case in addition to "defaults" and "recommendations." We have changed very little of that sort of thing. @Ed, thanks, but now what? Using IEFJOBS to define started tasks Last

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:11:11 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: > >Okay, I confirmed that MSGCLASS=Z will make output magically disappear. > Had you been taking all IBM's defaults: SYSOUT class, disposition of that class, etc.? If so, IBM's design is adverse. But, "IBM's defaults are not IBM's

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/10/2023 3:11 PM, Charles Mills wrote: If I add the following as the first line of the proc is it likely to work, or at the very least, not make things worse? //BPXASJOB MSGLEVEL=1,MSGCLASS=Z Look up the use of IEFJOBS... -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks much. Okay, I confirmed that MSGCLASS=Z will make output magically disappear. Here is the proc as it exists today: //* //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=IEFIIC,DPRTY=12,PARM=',,,BPXPRJRW'

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
BPXAS is the jobstep task when a Unix application spawns a process that runs in a separate address space. It is an initiator for Unix workloads and over the course of its lifetime may run processes spawned by multiple users. I couln't find any documentation of the generated JCK beyond the BPXAS

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-10 Thread Steve Smith
Those are OMVS "initiators", and as far as I can tell, there is no way to control them. OMVS starts as many as needed to run processes (at which point they temporarily change their name - which is why you don't see all of them in DA). Once they're idle for 30 minutes or so, they quit; resulting